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		<title>By: brockdc</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/05/25/beat-down-2/#comment-48257</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2005 02:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a name=&quot;37&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;37.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;Man, I miss The Scooter and White. They complemented each other so well. You could practically hear Bill White&#039;s eyes rolling with each new cannoli anecdote. Ultimately, though, the thought of Scooter and White reminds me of coming home from little league - my uniform still dirty -and flipping on PIX to see if either Winnie or Mattingly had gone yard yet. Good baseball memories.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a name="37" rel="nofollow"></a>37.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;Man, I miss The Scooter and White. They complemented each other so well. You could practically hear Bill White&#8217;s eyes rolling with each new cannoli anecdote. Ultimately, though, the thought of Scooter and White reminds me of coming home from little league &#8211; my uniform still dirty -and flipping on PIX to see if either Winnie or Mattingly had gone yard yet. Good baseball memories.</p>
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		<title>By: Cliff Corcoran</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/05/25/beat-down-2/#comment-48256</link>
		<dc:creator>Cliff Corcoran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2005 17:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a name=&quot;36&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;36.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;Murcer works better in the all-jocks situation because the only non-jock the Yanks have in the TV booth is Kay and unlike the other low-quality jock broadcasters (Justice and O&#039;Neill), Bobby&#039;s too nice to him. Justice and O&#039;Neill are pretty rough in the booth, but they work well with Kay becaues they cut him down and point out when he&#039;s wrong or otherwise full of it. Murcer doesn&#039;t do that. He practically enables Kay, and that&#039;s a very bad thing, for the same reasons that Sterling-Kay was a good thing.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a name="36" rel="nofollow"></a>36.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;Murcer works better in the all-jocks situation because the only non-jock the Yanks have in the TV booth is Kay and unlike the other low-quality jock broadcasters (Justice and O&#8217;Neill), Bobby&#8217;s too nice to him. Justice and O&#8217;Neill are pretty rough in the booth, but they work well with Kay becaues they cut him down and point out when he&#8217;s wrong or otherwise full of it. Murcer doesn&#8217;t do that. He practically enables Kay, and that&#8217;s a very bad thing, for the same reasons that Sterling-Kay was a good thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Belth</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/05/25/beat-down-2/#comment-48255</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Belth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2005 17:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a name=&quot;35&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;35.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;The Yankees have as many announcers as most teams have uniforms. I like Singleton and Kaat the best. They could be the last duo I could ever hear and I&#039;d be fine with that. It&#039;s just when you mixed some of the other talent in with them--O&#039;Neill, Kay, Murcer, and now Justice--that the quality gets diluted. I can bear Murcer&#039;s &quot;aww shucks&quot; routine much better when it&#039;s just the ex-jocks in the booth, for some reason.&lt;/p&gt;
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Kay was very good with Sterling on the radio. They complimented each other and their clash of the egos made for an entertaining--if not always relaxing--time.&lt;/p&gt;
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I think the Mets radio team is top-notch.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a name="35" rel="nofollow"></a>35.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;The Yankees have as many announcers as most teams have uniforms. I like Singleton and Kaat the best. They could be the last duo I could ever hear and I&#8217;d be fine with that. It&#8217;s just when you mixed some of the other talent in with them&#8211;O&#8217;Neill, Kay, Murcer, and now Justice&#8211;that the quality gets diluted. I can bear Murcer&#8217;s &#8220;aww shucks&#8221; routine much better when it&#8217;s just the ex-jocks in the booth, for some reason.</p>
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Kay was very good with Sterling on the radio. They complimented each other and their clash of the egos made for an entertaining&#8211;if not always relaxing&#8211;time.</p>
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I think the Mets radio team is top-notch.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick from Washington Heights</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/05/25/beat-down-2/#comment-48254</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick from Washington Heights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2005 17:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a name=&quot;34&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;34.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;BTW, Murray, I agree with you re: Cohen. He&#039;s great and I wish the Yanks had him.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a name="34" rel="nofollow"></a>34.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;BTW, Murray, I agree with you re: Cohen. He&#8217;s great and I wish the Yanks had him.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick from Washington Heights</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/05/25/beat-down-2/#comment-48253</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick from Washington Heights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2005 17:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a name=&quot;33&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;33.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;It&#039;s not as if he&#039;s describing his colonoscopy,Murray. Having worked at a school with a number of students with emotional issues, I view A-Rod&#039;s frankness on the subject positively. As simple as it sounds, young people look up to public figures, young men look up to athletes. Several students at my school saw a school psychiatrist. Their time with her helped them a lot to deal with their anger, isolation, etc. But, they were also teased by some of the students for the obvious stigma attached to it. This school was in East Harlem, a largely Hispanic neighborhood, and I can&#039;t help but believe A-Rod&#039;s honesty will in some way temper the taunts of other students and help these students feel less alienated.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a name="33" rel="nofollow"></a>33.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;It&#8217;s not as if he&#8217;s describing his colonoscopy,Murray. Having worked at a school with a number of students with emotional issues, I view A-Rod&#8217;s frankness on the subject positively. As simple as it sounds, young people look up to public figures, young men look up to athletes. Several students at my school saw a school psychiatrist. Their time with her helped them a lot to deal with their anger, isolation, etc. But, they were also teased by some of the students for the obvious stigma attached to it. This school was in East Harlem, a largely Hispanic neighborhood, and I can&#8217;t help but believe A-Rod&#8217;s honesty will in some way temper the taunts of other students and help these students feel less alienated.</p>
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		<title>By: Cliff Corcoran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cliff Corcoran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2005 16:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a name=&quot;32&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;32.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;Don&#039;t get me wrong, Murcer seems like a great guy. He seems to love what he does, has a sense of humor, can laugh at himself (frequently), and from what I can tell from a distance is a good and kind man, but he&#039;s a crap broadcaster and has not improved in the 20 or so years I&#039;ve been listening to him.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a name="32" rel="nofollow"></a>32.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;Don&#8217;t get me wrong, Murcer seems like a great guy. He seems to love what he does, has a sense of humor, can laugh at himself (frequently), and from what I can tell from a distance is a good and kind man, but he&#8217;s a crap broadcaster and has not improved in the 20 or so years I&#8217;ve been listening to him.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt B</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/05/25/beat-down-2/#comment-48251</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2005 16:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a name=&quot;31&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;31.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;I have to confess, I like Murcer. No he&#039;s not Rizzuto, but he is in that mold. I find him affable and I guess I find him more charming than Cliff does. I like that Kaat is so curmudgeonly, but he really does need to let some things go once in a while rather than drive them into the ground. I think Singleton does a very good job.&lt;/p&gt;
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The Mets team is pretty solid - Cohen does an excellent job. I miss Murph terribly, though.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a name="31" rel="nofollow"></a>31.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;I have to confess, I like Murcer. No he&#8217;s not Rizzuto, but he is in that mold. I find him affable and I guess I find him more charming than Cliff does. I like that Kaat is so curmudgeonly, but he really does need to let some things go once in a while rather than drive them into the ground. I think Singleton does a very good job.</p>
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The Mets team is pretty solid &#8211; Cohen does an excellent job. I miss Murph terribly, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Murray</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/05/25/beat-down-2/#comment-48250</link>
		<dc:creator>Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2005 16:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a name=&quot;30&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;30.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;As I said, I don&#039;t think people should be stigmatized in any way because they choose to see psychotherapists. I do, however, think that nobody out there is going to say, &quot;You know, if Alex Rodriguez can see a therapist, then maybe I should consider it.&quot; It&#039;s far more likely that some leatherlunged moron will give him the business about it at Fenway Park. And I&#039;m not sure that serves the goal of promoting the virtues of psychotherapy. On balance, I think that there are things that people should keep to themselves, and unusual frankness about one&#039;s medical treatment regimen is an unappealing quality.&lt;/p&gt;
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The best regional broadcaster I&#039;ve encountered is Gary Cohen of the Mets. It&#039;s a delight to listen to him, and now that Murph is gone, Cohen is having a lot more fun in the booth.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a name="30" rel="nofollow"></a>30.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;As I said, I don&#8217;t think people should be stigmatized in any way because they choose to see psychotherapists. I do, however, think that nobody out there is going to say, &#8220;You know, if Alex Rodriguez can see a therapist, then maybe I should consider it.&#8221; It&#8217;s far more likely that some leatherlunged moron will give him the business about it at Fenway Park. And I&#8217;m not sure that serves the goal of promoting the virtues of psychotherapy. On balance, I think that there are things that people should keep to themselves, and unusual frankness about one&#8217;s medical treatment regimen is an unappealing quality.</p>
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The best regional broadcaster I&#8217;ve encountered is Gary Cohen of the Mets. It&#8217;s a delight to listen to him, and now that Murph is gone, Cohen is having a lot more fun in the booth.</p>
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		<title>By: Cliff Corcoran</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/05/25/beat-down-2/#comment-48249</link>
		<dc:creator>Cliff Corcoran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2005 14:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a name=&quot;29&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;29.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;I think he was on Red Bull last year. That or he stayed at a Holiday Inn Express.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a name="29" rel="nofollow"></a>29.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;I think he was on Red Bull last year. That or he stayed at a Holiday Inn Express.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick from Washington Heights</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/05/25/beat-down-2/#comment-48248</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick from Washington Heights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2005 14:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a name=&quot;28&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;28.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;&quot;He had a fluke season last year in which he was sharp and informative and that&#039;s been it.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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Murcer&#039;s year reminded me of Brady Anderson&#039;s 50 hr season. Any rumors that Bobby was juicing?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a name="28" rel="nofollow"></a>28.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;&#8221;He had a fluke season last year in which he was sharp and informative and that&#8217;s been it.&#8221;</p>
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Murcer&#8217;s year reminded me of Brady Anderson&#8217;s 50 hr season. Any rumors that Bobby was juicing?</p>
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		<title>By: Cliff Corcoran</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/05/25/beat-down-2/#comment-48247</link>
		<dc:creator>Cliff Corcoran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2005 14:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a name=&quot;27&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;27.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;Ah, here&#039;s Joe&#039;s quote: &quot;&quot;Whether it was [intentional] or not, it came after a couple of home runs. In the old days, teams took care of that stuff.&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a name="27" rel="nofollow"></a>27.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;Ah, here&#8217;s Joe&#8217;s quote: &#8220;&#8221;Whether it was [intentional] or not, it came after a couple of home runs. In the old days, teams took care of that stuff.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Cliff Corcoran</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/05/25/beat-down-2/#comment-48246</link>
		<dc:creator>Cliff Corcoran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2005 14:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a name=&quot;26&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;26.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;Oh, I love Scooter too. Miss him terribly. But Bobby doesn&#039;t have his charm and humor. You can get away with Sal Bando when you&#039;ve got Scooter&#039;s personality and are flat out entertaining to listen to. Murcer ain&#039;t that. I&#039;ve never liked him as a Yankee announcer. He had a fluke season last year in which he was sharp and informative and that&#039;s been it.&lt;/p&gt;
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Meanwhile, I believe Singleton and Kaat are among the very best in the business, though Kaat&#039;s reactionary stances are getting worse by the year. The pitch count and radar gun stuff drives me nuts. Even when I agree with him (radar guns) he needs to realize when to move on to a new topic. Also, I could deal with his railing against pitch counts if he made the distinction between young and old pitchers. Pitch counts have been proven to be crucial to keeping young arms from falling off. If Kitty argued that coaches should toss out their pitch counters with veteran pitchers on the mound (which is basically what he means anyway), he&#039;d have a lot more credibility. &lt;/p&gt;
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Meanwhile, Kitty&#039;s comments about the composure and funky windups of &quot;Asian&quot; pitchers and the nonchalant fielding of &quot;Latin&quot; infielders make me a bit uncomfortable. I don&#039;t get hung up on the PC, but those comments border on inappropriate given his position. At least he uses the right ethnic terminology.&lt;/p&gt;
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Knuckles, I just finished editing Howard Bryant&#039;s book on the juiced era (Juicing the Game, on shelves in time for the All-Star Game!) and in it he discusses the way the inside pitch has been taken away from pitchers by the new warning system. One of his chief sources for that section is Joe Torre, who pines for the days of the game policing itself. Joe&#039;s comments after the game reflected that (something along the lines of &quot;it used to be that these things would take care of themselves&quot;).
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a name="26" rel="nofollow"></a>26.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;Oh, I love Scooter too. Miss him terribly. But Bobby doesn&#8217;t have his charm and humor. You can get away with Sal Bando when you&#8217;ve got Scooter&#8217;s personality and are flat out entertaining to listen to. Murcer ain&#8217;t that. I&#8217;ve never liked him as a Yankee announcer. He had a fluke season last year in which he was sharp and informative and that&#8217;s been it.</p>
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Meanwhile, I believe Singleton and Kaat are among the very best in the business, though Kaat&#8217;s reactionary stances are getting worse by the year. The pitch count and radar gun stuff drives me nuts. Even when I agree with him (radar guns) he needs to realize when to move on to a new topic. Also, I could deal with his railing against pitch counts if he made the distinction between young and old pitchers. Pitch counts have been proven to be crucial to keeping young arms from falling off. If Kitty argued that coaches should toss out their pitch counters with veteran pitchers on the mound (which is basically what he means anyway), he&#8217;d have a lot more credibility. </p>
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Meanwhile, Kitty&#8217;s comments about the composure and funky windups of &#8220;Asian&#8221; pitchers and the nonchalant fielding of &#8220;Latin&#8221; infielders make me a bit uncomfortable. I don&#8217;t get hung up on the PC, but those comments border on inappropriate given his position. At least he uses the right ethnic terminology.</p>
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Knuckles, I just finished editing Howard Bryant&#8217;s book on the juiced era (Juicing the Game, on shelves in time for the All-Star Game!) and in it he discusses the way the inside pitch has been taken away from pitchers by the new warning system. One of his chief sources for that section is Joe Torre, who pines for the days of the game policing itself. Joe&#8217;s comments after the game reflected that (something along the lines of &#8220;it used to be that these things would take care of themselves&#8221;).</p>
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		<title>By: Nick from Washington Heights</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick from Washington Heights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2005 14:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a name=&quot;25&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;25.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;i loved rizzuto&#039;s late-inning shout-outs to his friends in florida.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a name="25" rel="nofollow"></a>25.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;i loved rizzuto&#8217;s late-inning shout-outs to his friends in florida.</p>
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		<title>By: rbj</title>
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		<dc:creator>rbj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2005 14:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a name=&quot;24&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;24.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;Rizzuto/White was a great combination. With the Scooter it always felt like I was with a friend at the park, where you&#039;d talk about anything and oh yes, there&#039;s a ballgame going on too.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a name="24" rel="nofollow"></a>24.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;Rizzuto/White was a great combination. With the Scooter it always felt like I was with a friend at the park, where you&#8217;d talk about anything and oh yes, there&#8217;s a ballgame going on too.</p>
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		<title>By: Oscar Azocar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oscar Azocar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2005 14:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a name=&quot;23&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;23.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;I grew up watching Rizzuto, so I&#039;ve become immune to announcing errors. My memory is sort of fuzzy on this, but there was one game where he mistakenly called a guy, maybe Gary Gaetti, &quot;Sal Bando&quot; at least a few times in an inning. Sal Bando had not played a game in the majors for at least 5-10 years at the time. I miss the Rizzuto/White combo in the booth. I like it best when Singleton and Kaat are announcing.  For some reason, it always cracks me up when I hear Kitty lambast pitch counts. He always brings that one up.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a name="23" rel="nofollow"></a>23.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;I grew up watching Rizzuto, so I&#8217;ve become immune to announcing errors. My memory is sort of fuzzy on this, but there was one game where he mistakenly called a guy, maybe Gary Gaetti, &#8220;Sal Bando&#8221; at least a few times in an inning. Sal Bando had not played a game in the majors for at least 5-10 years at the time. I miss the Rizzuto/White combo in the booth. I like it best when Singleton and Kaat are announcing.  For some reason, it always cracks me up when I hear Kitty lambast pitch counts. He always brings that one up.</p>
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		<title>By: markp</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2005 14:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a name=&quot;22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;22.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;&quot;(he botched another easy play last night, though he wasn&#039;t charged win an error).&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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Arod hits 2 HRs, drives in the first three runs, and gets on base all four trips to the plate. That&#039;s nothing compared to allowing a meaningless infield hit. &lt;/p&gt;
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I think the &quot;why doesn&#039;t he...&quot; posts in the previoud thread describe the attitude behind silly remarks like that perfectly.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a name="22" rel="nofollow"></a>22.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;&#8221;(he botched another easy play last night, though he wasn&#8217;t charged win an error).&#8221;</p>
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Arod hits 2 HRs, drives in the first three runs, and gets on base all four trips to the plate. That&#8217;s nothing compared to allowing a meaningless infield hit. </p>
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I think the &#8220;why doesn&#8217;t he&#8230;&#8221; posts in the previoud thread describe the attitude behind silly remarks like that perfectly.</p>
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		<title>By: Knuckles</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2005 14:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a name=&quot;21&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;21.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;Quoting Cliff:&lt;br /&gt;
&quot;You know he&#039;s move up several pegs in that clubhouse and in Torre&#039;s book (as Joe is a big believer in tthe old school, eye-for-an-eye method of the game &quot;policing itself&quot;).&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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Do you really see Torre this way? I feel the opposite- Joe has shown zero inclination towards protecting Yankee batters with a little inside wildness now and again. Hopefully this is the start of something new.&lt;/p&gt;
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As for the Yanks&#039; hit and been hit ratio, I don&#039;t have that but I did an (Excel file) study showing the correlation between walks and HBP for teams from 2002-2004. Not surprisingly, HBP and Walks rise at roughly the same rates for most teams, with the stark exception of the Red Sox, who almost always seem to be among the league leaders in hit batsmen while also having one of the lowest Walk rates in baseball. I can send the file to people if they&#039;d like.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a name="21" rel="nofollow"></a>21.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;Quoting Cliff:<br />
&#8220;You know he&#8217;s move up several pegs in that clubhouse and in Torre&#8217;s book (as Joe is a big believer in tthe old school, eye-for-an-eye method of the game &#8220;policing itself&#8221;).&#8221;</p>
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Do you really see Torre this way? I feel the opposite- Joe has shown zero inclination towards protecting Yankee batters with a little inside wildness now and again. Hopefully this is the start of something new.</p>
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As for the Yanks&#8217; hit and been hit ratio, I don&#8217;t have that but I did an (Excel file) study showing the correlation between walks and HBP for teams from 2002-2004. Not surprisingly, HBP and Walks rise at roughly the same rates for most teams, with the stark exception of the Red Sox, who almost always seem to be among the league leaders in hit batsmen while also having one of the lowest Walk rates in baseball. I can send the file to people if they&#8217;d like.</p>
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		<title>By: Andre</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2005 13:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a name=&quot;20&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;20.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;Actually, I am a lifelong Yankees fan living in Massachusetts, and the Sox announcers are pretty good too (Jerry Remy and Don Orsillo). I prefer the Yankees announcers but if you&#039;re comparing, then the Sox announcers should rank pretty high up on the list.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a name="20" rel="nofollow"></a>20.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;Actually, I am a lifelong Yankees fan living in Massachusetts, and the Sox announcers are pretty good too (Jerry Remy and Don Orsillo). I prefer the Yankees announcers but if you&#8217;re comparing, then the Sox announcers should rank pretty high up on the list.</p>
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		<title>By: brockdc</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/05/25/beat-down-2/#comment-48239</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2005 13:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a name=&quot;19&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;19.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;Anyone who has MLB Extra Innings has to endure TERRIBLE commentary by hack announcers whenever the YES games are blacked out. Because these announcers have done such little research on the 2005 Yankees, whatever commentary they have is either steeped in cliche or just plain erroneous. &lt;/p&gt;
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We make fun of Kay, Murcer, et. al, but they really are the gold standard in terms of regional broadcasts (scary thought).
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a name="19" rel="nofollow"></a>19.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;Anyone who has MLB Extra Innings has to endure TERRIBLE commentary by hack announcers whenever the YES games are blacked out. Because these announcers have done such little research on the 2005 Yankees, whatever commentary they have is either steeped in cliche or just plain erroneous. </p>
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We make fun of Kay, Murcer, et. al, but they really are the gold standard in terms of regional broadcasts (scary thought).</p>
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		<title>By: rbj</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2005 13:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a name=&quot;18&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;18.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;Regarding broadcasters, here in Toledo the Yankee-Tiger games on extra innings are blacked out (also Indians and Red games) so I have to suffer through the Tiger announcers. Did anyone know that the Yankees have the best team money can buy, and that their payroll is $200 million? Such great insight and detailed investigation.&lt;/p&gt;
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So is Q going to be suspended for 5 games?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a name="18" rel="nofollow"></a>18.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;Regarding broadcasters, here in Toledo the Yankee-Tiger games on extra innings are blacked out (also Indians and Red games) so I have to suffer through the Tiger announcers. Did anyone know that the Yankees have the best team money can buy, and that their payroll is $200 million? Such great insight and detailed investigation.</p>
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So is Q going to be suspended for 5 games?</p>
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