Comments on: The End of the Line…or Not http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/05/25/the-end-of-the-lineor-not/ Development site for Bronx Banter Blog's upcoming look and feel Thu, 20 Jun 2013 04:45:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: Patrick http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/05/25/the-end-of-the-lineor-not/#comment-48288 Patrick Sat, 28 May 2005 13:17:51 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/05/25/the-end-of-the-lineor-not/#comment-48288 <p><b><a name="23" rel="nofollow"></a>23.</b>  I'd love to see Bernie back. Him on the Yankees is just "right".</p> <p> Like you, I'm enjoying everything he does this year. </p> 23.  I’d love to see Bernie back. Him on the Yankees is just “right”.

Like you, I’m enjoying everything he does this year.

]]> By: Rob http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/05/25/the-end-of-the-lineor-not/#comment-48287 Rob Thu, 26 May 2005 18:43:12 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/05/25/the-end-of-the-lineor-not/#comment-48287 <p><b><a name="22" rel="nofollow"></a>22.</b>  jen - that's hilarious. the jingle totally crept out of the depths of my brain the minute i heard the a-rod story. </p> 22.  jen – that’s hilarious. the jingle totally crept out of the depths of my brain the minute i heard the a-rod story.

]]> By: brockdc http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/05/25/the-end-of-the-lineor-not/#comment-48286 brockdc Thu, 26 May 2005 15:52:24 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/05/25/the-end-of-the-lineor-not/#comment-48286 <p><b><a name="21" rel="nofollow"></a>21.</b>  Nothing comes close to watching Tino in those horrid, post-apocolyptic cardigans, courtesy of the Devil Rays. </p> 21.  Nothing comes close to watching Tino in those horrid, post-apocolyptic cardigans, courtesy of the Devil Rays.

]]> By: Rich Lederer http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/05/25/the-end-of-the-lineor-not/#comment-48285 Rich Lederer Thu, 26 May 2005 15:12:55 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/05/25/the-end-of-the-lineor-not/#comment-48285 <p><b><a name="20" rel="nofollow"></a>20.</b>  Only Griffey was better than Williams in the latter's peak years. Edmonds has also been a superior player over the entire span of Bernie's career. The Beltrans and Joneses derive too much of their value post-2002 to be truly comparable.</p> <p> A borderline Hall of Famer in my opinion but one who will find the going tough when it comes time for the writers to cast their ballots.</p> <p> I think Bernie would make a fine bench player for a year or two but nothing more than that. It'll probably come down to money and/or pride (on both sides). </p> 20.  Only Griffey was better than Williams in the latter’s peak years. Edmonds has also been a superior player over the entire span of Bernie’s career. The Beltrans and Joneses derive too much of their value post-2002 to be truly comparable.

A borderline Hall of Famer in my opinion but one who will find the going tough when it comes time for the writers to cast their ballots.

I think Bernie would make a fine bench player for a year or two but nothing more than that. It’ll probably come down to money and/or pride (on both sides).

]]> By: Nick from Washington Heights http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/05/25/the-end-of-the-lineor-not/#comment-48284 Nick from Washington Heights Thu, 26 May 2005 14:21:37 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/05/25/the-end-of-the-lineor-not/#comment-48284 <p><b><a name="19" rel="nofollow"></a>19.</b>  I'm still singing that song from 10 years ago. It really is the catchiest jingle of all time. That and the Food Emporium song.</p> <p> Living in Boston (my title is about my origin and my future home), the media has been pretty quiet about the A-Rod therapy thing. Kind of a surprise. </p> 19.  I’m still singing that song from 10 years ago. It really is the catchiest jingle of all time. That and the Food Emporium song.

Living in Boston (my title is about my origin and my future home), the media has been pretty quiet about the A-Rod therapy thing. Kind of a surprise.

]]> By: Jen http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/05/25/the-end-of-the-lineor-not/#comment-48283 Jen Thu, 26 May 2005 13:16:25 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/05/25/the-end-of-the-lineor-not/#comment-48283 <p><b><a name="18" rel="nofollow"></a>18.</b>  Yes, Rob! And I've been singing that song since yesterday afternoon. </p> <p> They have an updated version of it on their website.<br /> (the link is next to the top banner). I liked the old school version better though.</p> <p> http://www.childrensaidsociety.org/ </p> 18.  Yes, Rob! And I’ve been singing that song since yesterday afternoon.

They have an updated version of it on their website.
(the link is next to the top banner). I liked the old school version better though.

http://www.childrensaidsociety.org/

]]> By: uburoisc http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/05/25/the-end-of-the-lineor-not/#comment-48282 uburoisc Thu, 26 May 2005 13:12:56 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/05/25/the-end-of-the-lineor-not/#comment-48282 <p><b><a name="17" rel="nofollow"></a>17.</b>  I think that if Bernie wants to play, he could still be a solid DH/PH for a team that needs one (and I think there are teams that would take the chance on a guy that has been a great a hitter as Bernie has). I suspect that if Bernie only concentrates on his hitting, he could make the HOF if he has the at bats and a few more solid years. Trouble is, he won't get those at bats with the Yankees. So it may come down to what Bernie wants to do. The Yanks should certainly keep him on to DH and PH if he wants to stay; Bernie can still hit, and I know he can still be deadly in the clutch. </p> 17.  I think that if Bernie wants to play, he could still be a solid DH/PH for a team that needs one (and I think there are teams that would take the chance on a guy that has been a great a hitter as Bernie has). I suspect that if Bernie only concentrates on his hitting, he could make the HOF if he has the at bats and a few more solid years. Trouble is, he won’t get those at bats with the Yankees. So it may come down to what Bernie wants to do. The Yanks should certainly keep him on to DH and PH if he wants to stay; Bernie can still hit, and I know he can still be deadly in the clutch.

]]> By: Rob http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/05/25/the-end-of-the-lineor-not/#comment-48281 Rob Thu, 26 May 2005 12:25:57 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/05/25/the-end-of-the-lineor-not/#comment-48281 <p><b><a name="16" rel="nofollow"></a>16.</b>  i'm really glad they made the children's aid society..</p> <p> (anyone remember that ad?) </p> 16.  i’m really glad they made the children’s aid society..

(anyone remember that ad?)

]]> By: rsmith51 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/05/25/the-end-of-the-lineor-not/#comment-48280 rsmith51 Thu, 26 May 2005 12:00:51 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/05/25/the-end-of-the-lineor-not/#comment-48280 <p><b><a name="15" rel="nofollow"></a>15.</b>  I would like to see the Yanks resign Bernie to a DH/PH/OF role. I am not sure what he has left, but he is my favorite player. I think a lot of Yankee fans are very slow to get on Bernie because we just love the guy. I am with you Simone, I can't see him wearing another uniform. Of the late 90s Yankees, I think Jeter, Williams, and Rivera all get their numbers retired. I think O'Neill and then Posada are possible, too. </p> 15.  I would like to see the Yanks resign Bernie to a DH/PH/OF role. I am not sure what he has left, but he is my favorite player. I think a lot of Yankee fans are very slow to get on Bernie because we just love the guy. I am with you Simone, I can’t see him wearing another uniform. Of the late 90s Yankees, I think Jeter, Williams, and Rivera all get their numbers retired. I think O’Neill and then Posada are possible, too.

]]> By: Simone http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/05/25/the-end-of-the-lineor-not/#comment-48279 Simone Thu, 26 May 2005 10:41:02 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/05/25/the-end-of-the-lineor-not/#comment-48279 <p><b><a name="14" rel="nofollow"></a>14.</b>  It is a great idea for the Yankees to sign Bernie as a DH/PH. If Bernie wants to continue to play, then he should play for the Yankees and no other team. It is hard enough to watch Pettitte in that ugly ass Astros uniform, I might actually cry if I have to see Bernie in another team's uniform. Sure I'm being hopelessly sentimental, but I don't care. I shamelessly adore Bernie. </p> 14.  It is a great idea for the Yankees to sign Bernie as a DH/PH. If Bernie wants to continue to play, then he should play for the Yankees and no other team. It is hard enough to watch Pettitte in that ugly ass Astros uniform, I might actually cry if I have to see Bernie in another team’s uniform. Sure I’m being hopelessly sentimental, but I don’t care. I shamelessly adore Bernie.

]]> By: Alex Belth http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/05/25/the-end-of-the-lineor-not/#comment-48278 Alex Belth Thu, 26 May 2005 09:49:15 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/05/25/the-end-of-the-lineor-not/#comment-48278 <p><b><a name="13" rel="nofollow"></a>13.</b>  I generally agree with Murray about people in therapy sometimes feeling the need to impress upon you the importance of what they are doing. It's like recovered alcoholics or smokers being holier-than-thou. I like Rodriguez as a player, but it's hard for me to get behind him too much as a personality. It's hard to know when he's being sincere. But I thought that it was cool that he came out with this business of being in therapy. It took a degree of nerve because as soon as he starts to slump, well, the headline writers will just have a field day. I'm sure they are already licking their chops in Boston. </p> <p> But good for him, is what I say. </p> 13.  I generally agree with Murray about people in therapy sometimes feeling the need to impress upon you the importance of what they are doing. It’s like recovered alcoholics or smokers being holier-than-thou. I like Rodriguez as a player, but it’s hard for me to get behind him too much as a personality. It’s hard to know when he’s being sincere. But I thought that it was cool that he came out with this business of being in therapy. It took a degree of nerve because as soon as he starts to slump, well, the headline writers will just have a field day. I’m sure they are already licking their chops in Boston.

But good for him, is what I say.

]]> By: brockdc http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/05/25/the-end-of-the-lineor-not/#comment-48277 brockdc Thu, 26 May 2005 02:55:34 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/05/25/the-end-of-the-lineor-not/#comment-48277 <p><b><a name="12" rel="nofollow"></a>12.</b>  Weeping,</p> <p> Well said. </p> 12.  Weeping,

Well said.

]]> By: psteff http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/05/25/the-end-of-the-lineor-not/#comment-48276 psteff Thu, 26 May 2005 01:21:44 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/05/25/the-end-of-the-lineor-not/#comment-48276 <p><b><a name="11" rel="nofollow"></a>11.</b>  Bernie's a legend and should retire as a yankee by any means necessary...<br /> and i agree with you hilde about a-rod. now if he could only get a few big hits this weekend! </p> 11.  Bernie’s a legend and should retire as a yankee by any means necessary…
and i agree with you hilde about a-rod. now if he could only get a few big hits this weekend!

]]> By: weeping for brunnhilde http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/05/25/the-end-of-the-lineor-not/#comment-48275 weeping for brunnhilde Wed, 25 May 2005 23:20:32 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/05/25/the-end-of-the-lineor-not/#comment-48275 <p><b><a name="10" rel="nofollow"></a>10.</b>  By the way, good for Rodriguez. This therapy business is about the first thing I've heard out of this guy's mouth that I actually find endearing.</p> <p> He scores major points with me on this, especially contrasted with Piazza's disgraceful behavior, calling a press conference to assure the world he's a Red-Blooded American Male. Man, that was so low-class. </p> <p> Anyway, I think de-sigmatizing therapy (and confrontation of personal issues, generally) is a terrific way to use one's status as a role model.</p> <p> (I'm still not sold on him as a big-time performer under pressure, but at least I have a reason to pull for the guy now, other than that he happens to play for the Yankees. ;) </p> 10.  By the way, good for Rodriguez. This therapy business is about the first thing I’ve heard out of this guy’s mouth that I actually find endearing.

He scores major points with me on this, especially contrasted with Piazza’s disgraceful behavior, calling a press conference to assure the world he’s a Red-Blooded American Male. Man, that was so low-class.

Anyway, I think de-sigmatizing therapy (and confrontation of personal issues, generally) is a terrific way to use one’s status as a role model.

(I’m still not sold on him as a big-time performer under pressure, but at least I have a reason to pull for the guy now, other than that he happens to play for the Yankees. ;)

]]> By: Knuckles http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/05/25/the-end-of-the-lineor-not/#comment-48274 Knuckles Wed, 25 May 2005 18:57:14 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/05/25/the-end-of-the-lineor-not/#comment-48274 <p><b><a name="9" rel="nofollow"></a>9.</b>  For 2006, we should keep Bernie and make some moves.</p> <p> 3B- Duncan<br /> 2B- Cano<br /> 1B- Bernie/FA/Tino/Posada<br /> DH- Bernie/FA/Tino/Posada<br /> SS- A-Rod<br /> CF- Jeter<br /> RF- Matsui (probably bored with the one corner all the time)<br /> LF- Sheff (ditto)<br /> C- Skinner/Slaught/Nokes </p> 9.  For 2006, we should keep Bernie and make some moves.

3B- Duncan
2B- Cano
1B- Bernie/FA/Tino/Posada
DH- Bernie/FA/Tino/Posada
SS- A-Rod
CF- Jeter
RF- Matsui (probably bored with the one corner all the time)
LF- Sheff (ditto)
C- Skinner/Slaught/Nokes

]]> By: singledd http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/05/25/the-end-of-the-lineor-not/#comment-48273 singledd Wed, 25 May 2005 18:50:47 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/05/25/the-end-of-the-lineor-not/#comment-48273 <p><b><a name="8" rel="nofollow"></a>8.</b>  Also.... as much as I love the guy, I don't think he is quite HOF. Like Rice, he was an impact player with outstanding years... but I personally think getting elected to the HOF should be a no brainer, not something that needs much pondering. I think there is a difference between high excellence and greatness. </p> 8.  Also…. as much as I love the guy, I don’t think he is quite HOF. Like Rice, he was an impact player with outstanding years… but I personally think getting elected to the HOF should be a no brainer, not something that needs much pondering. I think there is a difference between high excellence and greatness.

]]> By: singledd http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/05/25/the-end-of-the-lineor-not/#comment-48272 singledd Wed, 25 May 2005 18:48:02 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/05/25/the-end-of-the-lineor-not/#comment-48272 <p><b><a name="7" rel="nofollow"></a>7.</b>  It would be wonderful if he stayed on the team. I really can't imagine anyone paying him much as a DH/PH who bats .250. I also think he would rather stay with the Yanks then go elsewhere. How about honoring him by making him co-captain next year? However, where is Giambi? If he is still playing, I think he is basically our DH. Its will give Bernie the opportunity to pad some of his career numbers and stay in the game. However, if we do keep him. it may be at the expense of someone on the farm. Phillips? Bubba? Johnson?</p> <p> Also, does Bernie have any aspirations to coach, or remain in baseball in any other capacity? </p> 7.  It would be wonderful if he stayed on the team. I really can’t imagine anyone paying him much as a DH/PH who bats .250. I also think he would rather stay with the Yanks then go elsewhere. How about honoring him by making him co-captain next year? However, where is Giambi? If he is still playing, I think he is basically our DH. Its will give Bernie the opportunity to pad some of his career numbers and stay in the game. However, if we do keep him. it may be at the expense of someone on the farm. Phillips? Bubba? Johnson?

Also, does Bernie have any aspirations to coach, or remain in baseball in any other capacity?

]]> By: weeping for brunnhilde http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/05/25/the-end-of-the-lineor-not/#comment-48271 weeping for brunnhilde Wed, 25 May 2005 18:28:50 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/05/25/the-end-of-the-lineor-not/#comment-48271 <p><b><a name="6" rel="nofollow"></a>6.</b>  I absolutely think we should keep Bernie around, for reasons sentimental and practical. He'd be a great bench player, in my opinion. The way he's handled his role these past days, getting a couple of very big hits despite his bitterness, despite his not really being in a groove, leads me to believe he'd be outstanding as a pinch-hitter. Plus, his discipline alone makes him valuable. Even if he's cold, he could still well draw a clutch walk, the way O'Neill did against Benitez in 2000. </p> <p> Plus, I really do belive in chemistry and it's been reported lately just how highly the team thinks of him, so his continued presence can only be good for morale.</p> <p> But given the way the organization has handled its veterans (e.g., Pettitte, Stanton, Tino) doesn't give me great hope that they'll try to retain his services, in any capacity. </p> <p> Either way, yes, let's savour the time he's got left. </p> 6.  I absolutely think we should keep Bernie around, for reasons sentimental and practical. He’d be a great bench player, in my opinion. The way he’s handled his role these past days, getting a couple of very big hits despite his bitterness, despite his not really being in a groove, leads me to believe he’d be outstanding as a pinch-hitter. Plus, his discipline alone makes him valuable. Even if he’s cold, he could still well draw a clutch walk, the way O’Neill did against Benitez in 2000.

Plus, I really do belive in chemistry and it’s been reported lately just how highly the team thinks of him, so his continued presence can only be good for morale.

But given the way the organization has handled its veterans (e.g., Pettitte, Stanton, Tino) doesn’t give me great hope that they’ll try to retain his services, in any capacity.

Either way, yes, let’s savour the time he’s got left.

]]> By: NetShrine http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/05/25/the-end-of-the-lineor-not/#comment-48270 NetShrine Wed, 25 May 2005 18:09:02 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/05/25/the-end-of-the-lineor-not/#comment-48270 <p><b><a name="5" rel="nofollow"></a>5.</b>  If interested, I ran the stats last week for Bernie and HOF comps: http://www.waswatching.com/archives/2005/05/bernie_williams.html</p> <p> And, as I said then, it's probably up to Bernie as to where he wants to play next year - but, if it's not NY, I could see Buck taking him in Texas to play DH/OF and get about 400 PA. </p> 5.  If interested, I ran the stats last week for Bernie and HOF comps: http://www.waswatching.com/archives/2005/05/bernie_williams.html

And, as I said then, it’s probably up to Bernie as to where he wants to play next year – but, if it’s not NY, I could see Buck taking him in Texas to play DH/OF and get about 400 PA.

]]> By: Alex Belth http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/05/25/the-end-of-the-lineor-not/#comment-48269 Alex Belth Wed, 25 May 2005 17:50:44 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/05/25/the-end-of-the-lineor-not/#comment-48269 <p><b><a name="4" rel="nofollow"></a>4.</b>  Since he's been in the game, how many center fielders have been better? Junior Griffey, for one. Edmonds. Andruw Jones, if you take everything into consideration? </p> 4.  Since he’s been in the game, how many center fielders have been better? Junior Griffey, for one. Edmonds. Andruw Jones, if you take everything into consideration?

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