Comments on: Searching For Quality

By: yankee23

yankee23 — Wed, 29 Jun 2005 23:06:45 +0000

11. Well I guess I'm glad to be missing it then. I was tired of the "even the Yankees couldn't buy their way out of" jokes well before I left. I have to say I generally like ESPN's online content, but even the Sports Guy and the Daily Quickie can get a little tiresome. I don't know what I'd do without Alex & Cliff.

By: Simone

Simone — Wed, 29 Jun 2005 22:44:54 +0000

10. yankee23,
First off, I’m totally jealous of you. Everyone may not agree, but I think that ESPN has gone overboard with the Yankee hate. It isn’t just the usual suspects like Gammons and Olney, it is the snide and the gleeful comments from the anchors on SportsCenter and ESPNews. Even BBTN has become unbearable, but that is probably because the only pro-Yankee host, Harold Reynolds had been doing the College World Series.

By: yankee23

yankee23 — Wed, 29 Jun 2005 21:51:57 +0000

9. Simone,
you mentioned sticking it to ESPN. I've been in Europe since August and thus haven't seen SportsCenter in quite a while. Has it gotten really bad?

By: Chucksax

Chucksax — Wed, 29 Jun 2005 21:49:46 +0000

8. rbj - I don't think that I agree with you. We've seen Marcus Thames before, and having one 27-year-old rookie outfielder on our roster is enough. Thames only started to take off after six or seven years in the minors, and he has done nothing in several cups of coffee with big league clubs to indicate that he's anything more than a AAAA player. Granted, he would still be an offensive and defensive improvement over the Out Machine currently patrolling the outfield, but I'd rather take a flyer on a younger player and try to catch lightning in a bottle for a third time.

By: yankee23

yankee23 — Wed, 29 Jun 2005 21:48:59 +0000

7. In Queens news, Randolph just tried to let Ishii get out of trouble (3 straight walks) and now they're down 5-0. Let's hope they don't bring up Torre's influence here...

Though regarding the Yankees, it's like Ebby Calvin "Nuke" LaLoosh once said:
'A good friend of mine used to say, "This is a very simple game. You throw the ball, you catch the ball, you hit the ball. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains." Think about that for a while.'

By: Simone

Simone — Wed, 29 Jun 2005 21:37:00 +0000

6. I am loving that the game is delayed by rain, thereby sticking it to ESPN. I hope they don't start until 2 seconds before SportsCenter. Earlier on SportsCenter, Jeff Brantley was going on and on about how victimized Sheffield feels by the big bad Yankees because of the trade rumors. Whatever, Brantley. No one appointed you Sheffield's spokesman so just shut it.

By: rbj

rbj — Wed, 29 Jun 2005 21:33:55 +0000

5. If the Yankees trade Sheff for Cameron, maybe they can pry Marcus Thames loose from the Tigers. He's back in AAA, absolutely destroying the ball .382/.470/.818 21 for 55, 14 rbi & 11 rs, 6 homers. Maybe trade Kevin Brown for him (& throw in Womack)

By: jonm

jonm — Wed, 29 Jun 2005 19:40:03 +0000

4. Good points on Torre. I think that the weakness of the bench bears Torre's fingerprints as well (remember his devotion to Sojo and Girardi).

I appreciate everything that Torre has done. I support the Yankees retiring his number, etc... But, inevitably, even the best managers no longer fit with their teams. The Yankees should give Joe a chance to bow out gracefully and, when he does, they shouldn't replace him with one of his accolytes like Girardi. Some of the things that Mets fans are saying about Randolph (unproductive lineups, weak bullpen management) are things that Yankee fans have been saying about Torre for years.

By: NealPhd

NealPhd — Wed, 29 Jun 2005 19:20:23 +0000

3. Torre excels at managing players egos, which is great, but the negatives in his on-field managing are becoming way too much to make up for. What the hell is his bench coach doing during these moves? Do you think anyone suggested putting Mariano in last night?

By: JohnnyC

JohnnyC — Wed, 29 Jun 2005 19:00:08 +0000

2. And someone here accused me recently of having a "crusade" against Torre. Even his greatest detractors couldn't make up some of the "tricks" he's pulled this season. And now those "lapses" like the use of Weaver in Game 4 in 2003 and the blatant abuse of Quantrill and Gordon in 2004 don't appear to be isolated incidents but true signs of how he really manages. That George and Cashman have allowed Torre carte blanche up until now is as much to blame for the Yankees' current problems as their off-season moves. Maybe more. There's enough talent on this squad, aged, injured, what have you, that we shouldn't be 3 games out of the Wild Card.

By: NealPhd

NealPhd — Wed, 29 Jun 2005 18:41:08 +0000

1. "significant assist by their manager", is a HUGE understatement. He might as well have gone out there himself and given up the HR. Why is it that I think that anyone who has played a few seasons of MVP Baseball (for PS2) would be a better tactical manager than Torre?