Comments on: Goldbricker’s Delight http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/07/28/goldbrickers-delight/ Development site for Bronx Banter Blog's upcoming look and feel Sat, 25 May 2013 00:28:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: alasky http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/07/28/goldbrickers-delight/#comment-51092 alasky Fri, 29 Jul 2005 09:11:47 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/07/28/goldbrickers-delight/#comment-51092 <p><b><a name="56" rel="nofollow"></a>56.</b>  No problem with the trade here either, but remember that we said the same things about Brazoban and Marte when they were traded, so you can't be sure, especially with the problems we seem to have in evaluating our own young talent, not that Dan O'Dowd has a glowing history in that department either. </p> 56.  No problem with the trade here either, but remember that we said the same things about Brazoban and Marte when they were traded, so you can’t be sure, especially with the problems we seem to have in evaluating our own young talent, not that Dan O’Dowd has a glowing history in that department either.

]]> By: Zavo http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/07/28/goldbrickers-delight/#comment-51091 Zavo Fri, 29 Jul 2005 00:19:51 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/07/28/goldbrickers-delight/#comment-51091 <p><b><a name="55" rel="nofollow"></a>55.</b>  I like the Chacon deal and think it is relatively low risk. I don't expect great things from Chacon, but for right now, I think he might be able to help the team. If Pavano comes back and Leiter or Small continues to pitch well (BIG IFs) then Chacon at least might be able to help in the pen where he has experience.</p> <p> You can't get something for nothing, and Sierra and Ramirez, while having lively arms, are not top prospects and not close to helping the team. Going to Colorado is probably going to be tough on those guys. </p> 55.  I like the Chacon deal and think it is relatively low risk. I don’t expect great things from Chacon, but for right now, I think he might be able to help the team. If Pavano comes back and Leiter or Small continues to pitch well (BIG IFs) then Chacon at least might be able to help in the pen where he has experience.

You can’t get something for nothing, and Sierra and Ramirez, while having lively arms, are not top prospects and not close to helping the team. Going to Colorado is probably going to be tough on those guys.

]]> By: bnoj http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/07/28/goldbrickers-delight/#comment-51090 bnoj Fri, 29 Jul 2005 00:00:28 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/07/28/goldbrickers-delight/#comment-51090 <p><b><a name="54" rel="nofollow"></a>54.</b>  As one of my friends told me regarding the Chacon trade:<br /> "we gave up someone named rodriguez (not alex) and someone named sierra (not ruben)"<br /> i like the sound of that. low risk, potentially high reward. </p> 54.  As one of my friends told me regarding the Chacon trade:
“we gave up someone named rodriguez (not alex) and someone named sierra (not ruben)”
i like the sound of that. low risk, potentially high reward.

]]> By: JeremyM http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/07/28/goldbrickers-delight/#comment-51089 JeremyM Thu, 28 Jul 2005 23:45:32 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/07/28/goldbrickers-delight/#comment-51089 <p><b><a name="53" rel="nofollow"></a>53.</b>  note: Nomo is not pitching because he hasnt pitched in 10 days and needs a stint in AAA before he starts for NY. </p> <p> Not to overrule jedi here, but Nomo is also not pitching Saturday because he sucks:) </p> <p> Actually, I like his signing-what do we have to lose? If he still stinks, which is most likely, does anyone care if Columbus loses another couple of games? There's always the chance he has a little gas in the tank still, and with all of our problems it's a good idea to keep live arms around. Hell, he couldn't be worse than Proctor coming out of the pen.</p> <p> Glad to hear we gave up nothing for Chacon, it'll be interesting to see what he can do. Sounds like Cashman made a good deal. Good thing too, I know Denny Neagle is still floating around out there looking for work..... </p> 53.  note: Nomo is not pitching because he hasnt pitched in 10 days and needs a stint in AAA before he starts for NY.

Not to overrule jedi here, but Nomo is also not pitching Saturday because he sucks:)

Actually, I like his signing-what do we have to lose? If he still stinks, which is most likely, does anyone care if Columbus loses another couple of games? There’s always the chance he has a little gas in the tank still, and with all of our problems it’s a good idea to keep live arms around. Hell, he couldn’t be worse than Proctor coming out of the pen.

Glad to hear we gave up nothing for Chacon, it’ll be interesting to see what he can do. Sounds like Cashman made a good deal. Good thing too, I know Denny Neagle is still floating around out there looking for work…..

]]> By: markp http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/07/28/goldbrickers-delight/#comment-51088 markp Thu, 28 Jul 2005 23:33:23 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/07/28/goldbrickers-delight/#comment-51088 <p><b><a name="52" rel="nofollow"></a>52.</b>  I think using Gordon was foolish. He has a history of arm trouble and had a recent bout of tendenitis. Torre himself admitted he overused him last year this srping. Yet Torre yanks a guy with a low pitch count who was cruising (12 in a row) with 9-1-2 coming up and bypasses Frod to stick Gordon in there. Not smart. </p> 52.  I think using Gordon was foolish. He has a history of arm trouble and had a recent bout of tendenitis. Torre himself admitted he overused him last year this srping. Yet Torre yanks a guy with a low pitch count who was cruising (12 in a row) with 9-1-2 coming up and bypasses Frod to stick Gordon in there. Not smart.

]]> By: jedi http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/07/28/goldbrickers-delight/#comment-51087 jedi Thu, 28 Jul 2005 23:23:38 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/07/28/goldbrickers-delight/#comment-51087 <p><b><a name="51" rel="nofollow"></a>51.</b>  What a STEAL!</p> <p> I wasn't too hot on the rumors for Chacon because I thought they would probably have to give up Duncan, Melky or Philips...</p> <p> Don't worry about these prospects they are giving up as Sierra was demoted from AAA recently and is in Trenton with a not so great record and ERA. </p> <p> This is a steal for the Yanks because they get a live arm and I like the history of Rocky pitchers striving elsewhere after they get traded (Hampton, Kile). The Yanks didnt have to give up their young core and we get a <br /> pitcher who has a MLB experience in the worse city to pitch in. I have seen tape of this guy and he will get you excited to see him pitch on Saturday. </p> <p> Trust me. This he is better than going with Redding, May and Henn in the long run. </p> <p> note: Nomo is not pitching because he hasnt pitched in 10 days and needs a stint in AAA before he starts for NY. </p> 51.  What a STEAL!

I wasn’t too hot on the rumors for Chacon because I thought they would probably have to give up Duncan, Melky or Philips…

Don’t worry about these prospects they are giving up as Sierra was demoted from AAA recently and is in Trenton with a not so great record and ERA.

This is a steal for the Yanks because they get a live arm and I like the history of Rocky pitchers striving elsewhere after they get traded (Hampton, Kile). The Yanks didnt have to give up their young core and we get a
pitcher who has a MLB experience in the worse city to pitch in. I have seen tape of this guy and he will get you excited to see him pitch on Saturday.

Trust me. This he is better than going with Redding, May and Henn in the long run.

note: Nomo is not pitching because he hasnt pitched in 10 days and needs a stint in AAA before he starts for NY.

]]> By: tommyl http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/07/28/goldbrickers-delight/#comment-51086 tommyl Thu, 28 Jul 2005 23:15:17 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/07/28/goldbrickers-delight/#comment-51086 <p><b><a name="50" rel="nofollow"></a>50.</b>  How valuable were Sierra and Ramirez as prospects? </p> 50.  How valuable were Sierra and Ramirez as prospects?

]]> By: sabernar http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/07/28/goldbrickers-delight/#comment-51085 sabernar Thu, 28 Jul 2005 23:14:29 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/07/28/goldbrickers-delight/#comment-51085 <p><b><a name="49" rel="nofollow"></a>49.</b>  Yeah, I just read about the Chacon trade. Does anyone know anything about these two AA pitchers? It looks like they have good K/IP, but is there anything else we should know about them?</p> <p> I also thought we picked up Nomo. I'm guessing Chacon will start. His ERA is 4.09, which isn't bad considering where he pitches, but his K/BB is HORRENDOUS. It's almost 1:1. Ouch. </p> 49.  Yeah, I just read about the Chacon trade. Does anyone know anything about these two AA pitchers? It looks like they have good K/IP, but is there anything else we should know about them?

I also thought we picked up Nomo. I’m guessing Chacon will start. His ERA is 4.09, which isn’t bad considering where he pitches, but his K/BB is HORRENDOUS. It’s almost 1:1. Ouch.

]]> By: Dan-el http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/07/28/goldbrickers-delight/#comment-51084 Dan-el Thu, 28 Jul 2005 22:50:28 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/07/28/goldbrickers-delight/#comment-51084 <p><b><a name="48" rel="nofollow"></a>48.</b>  AP is reporting that Yankees have obtained Chacon from the Rockies for Eduardo Sierra and Ramon Ramirez. So we have a starter for Saturday. </p> 48.  AP is reporting that Yankees have obtained Chacon from the Rockies for Eduardo Sierra and Ramon Ramirez. So we have a starter for Saturday.

]]> By: Marcus http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/07/28/goldbrickers-delight/#comment-51083 Marcus Thu, 28 Jul 2005 21:18:00 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/07/28/goldbrickers-delight/#comment-51083 <p><b><a name="47" rel="nofollow"></a>47.</b>  Did anyone see that Kevin Thompson may be the next body to get a shot at CF:</p> <p> http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/yankees/ny-spynotes284361303jul28,0,7526462.story?coll=ny-yankees-print</p> <p> Is this guy a legit CFer defensively? Sounds like his strength is his bat. </p> 47.  Did anyone see that Kevin Thompson may be the next body to get a shot at CF:

http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/yankees/ny-spynotes284361303jul28,0,7526462.story?coll=ny-yankees-print

Is this guy a legit CFer defensively? Sounds like his strength is his bat.

]]> By: Dan M http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/07/28/goldbrickers-delight/#comment-51082 Dan M Thu, 28 Jul 2005 18:00:23 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/07/28/goldbrickers-delight/#comment-51082 <p><b><a name="46" rel="nofollow"></a>46.</b>  Eric Gagne won the CYA in 2003 with a 1.20 ERA (league ERA 4.03), w/ 137 Ks, 20 BBs2 HRs and in 82 IP. Mo's ERA is 0.83, and I'd imagine the league ERA is sginificantly greater than the 2003 NL's. The only problem is that Gagne had 55 Saves, and Mo only has 26 at this point (100 games). So, yes, if Mo keeps this up, I think there's a strong argument for him, but he may need more Saves for the writers. </p> 46.  Eric Gagne won the CYA in 2003 with a 1.20 ERA (league ERA 4.03), w/ 137 Ks, 20 BBs2 HRs and in 82 IP. Mo’s ERA is 0.83, and I’d imagine the league ERA is sginificantly greater than the 2003 NL’s. The only problem is that Gagne had 55 Saves, and Mo only has 26 at this point (100 games). So, yes, if Mo keeps this up, I think there’s a strong argument for him, but he may need more Saves for the writers.

]]> By: jkay http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/07/28/goldbrickers-delight/#comment-51081 jkay Thu, 28 Jul 2005 17:07:29 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/07/28/goldbrickers-delight/#comment-51081 <p><b><a name="45" rel="nofollow"></a>45.</b>  Just saw the replay; he short hopped the ball but got the call.</p> <p> >GREAT CATCH by Bernie </p> 45.  Just saw the replay; he short hopped the ball but got the call.

>GREAT CATCH by Bernie

]]> By: Rich http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/07/28/goldbrickers-delight/#comment-51080 Rich Thu, 28 Jul 2005 17:06:25 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/07/28/goldbrickers-delight/#comment-51080 <p><b><a name="44" rel="nofollow"></a>44.</b>  If, for the sake of argument, you feel compelled to use the pen, go to F-Rod. </p> 44.  If, for the sake of argument, you feel compelled to use the pen, go to F-Rod.

]]> By: rilkefan http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/07/28/goldbrickers-delight/#comment-51079 rilkefan Thu, 28 Jul 2005 16:58:39 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/07/28/goldbrickers-delight/#comment-51079 <p><b><a name="43" rel="nofollow"></a>43.</b>  That was Small's longest ML outing in five starts (says the AP). Not sending him out there after 7 seems prudent with the Yankees' RJ and Moose and rely-on-a-ruse rotation. </p> 43.  That was Small’s longest ML outing in five starts (says the AP). Not sending him out there after 7 seems prudent with the Yankees’ RJ and Moose and rely-on-a-ruse rotation.

]]> By: JVarghese81 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/07/28/goldbrickers-delight/#comment-51078 JVarghese81 Thu, 28 Jul 2005 16:42:27 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/07/28/goldbrickers-delight/#comment-51078 <p><b><a name="42" rel="nofollow"></a>42.</b>  I gotta agree with you on that point - all in all a pretty satisfying game, esp. with the series with the Angels looming.</p> <p> I would love to see Moose, RJ and...does anyone know who's scheduled to pitch that day?...stick it to the Angels. Hopefully, there will be a little bit of redemption for losing 3 out of 4 last series out...and as Alex B pointed out, for watching those Angels celebrate like mad for what seemed like every run they scored. </p> 42.  I gotta agree with you on that point – all in all a pretty satisfying game, esp. with the series with the Angels looming.

I would love to see Moose, RJ and…does anyone know who’s scheduled to pitch that day?…stick it to the Angels. Hopefully, there will be a little bit of redemption for losing 3 out of 4 last series out…and as Alex B pointed out, for watching those Angels celebrate like mad for what seemed like every run they scored.

]]> By: Rich http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/07/28/goldbrickers-delight/#comment-51077 Rich Thu, 28 Jul 2005 16:40:22 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/07/28/goldbrickers-delight/#comment-51077 <p><b><a name="41" rel="nofollow"></a>41.</b>  Mo can win the CYA, especially with Halliday down for a month. </p> 41.  Mo can win the CYA, especially with Halliday down for a month.

]]> By: Rich http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/07/28/goldbrickers-delight/#comment-51076 Rich Thu, 28 Jul 2005 16:39:34 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/07/28/goldbrickers-delight/#comment-51076 <p><b><a name="40" rel="nofollow"></a>40.</b>  Small likely would have left on a high note after 8, and Gordon wouldn't be on his way to being worn out again, as he was last season. </p> 40.  Small likely would have left on a high note after 8, and Gordon wouldn’t be on his way to being worn out again, as he was last season.

]]> By: Schteeve http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/07/28/goldbrickers-delight/#comment-51075 Schteeve Thu, 28 Jul 2005 16:38:38 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/07/28/goldbrickers-delight/#comment-51075 <p><b><a name="39" rel="nofollow"></a>39.</b>  Does Mo have a shot at the CY Young this year? I mean, he's been absolutley ridiculous. </p> 39.  Does Mo have a shot at the CY Young this year? I mean, he’s been absolutley ridiculous.

]]> By: bp1 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/07/28/goldbrickers-delight/#comment-51074 bp1 Thu, 28 Jul 2005 16:38:02 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/07/28/goldbrickers-delight/#comment-51074 <p><b><a name="38" rel="nofollow"></a>38.</b>  Also - let Small leave on a high note, and maybe his momentum will continue to his next start. 7 innings and 3 runs? More than Joe expected, I'm sure. </p> <p> Good move by Joe, imho. Gordon should be able to pitch one inning without falling apart. </p> <p> BP </p> 38.  Also – let Small leave on a high note, and maybe his momentum will continue to his next start. 7 innings and 3 runs? More than Joe expected, I’m sure.

Good move by Joe, imho. Gordon should be able to pitch one inning without falling apart.

BP

]]> By: Rich http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/07/28/goldbrickers-delight/#comment-51073 Rich Thu, 28 Jul 2005 16:36:50 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2005/07/28/goldbrickers-delight/#comment-51073 <p><b><a name="37" rel="nofollow"></a>37.</b>  Using Gordon wouldn't be dumb, even though they had a three run lead, if Torre didn't overuse him so often. </p> <p> Yet somehow he couldn't use him for four outs with a one run lead in Texas last week. </p> 37.  Using Gordon wouldn’t be dumb, even though they had a three run lead, if Torre didn’t overuse him so often.

Yet somehow he couldn’t use him for four outs with a one run lead in Texas last week.

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