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		<title>By: Shawn Clap</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shawn Clap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2005 18:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a name=&quot;40&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;40.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;Watch for Andrew Sisco out of the Royals bullpen this weekend. He&#039;s a Rule 5 kid that the Yanks need to make an all-out push for in the off-season. &lt;/p&gt;
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He&#039;s a 6&#039;10&quot; lefty and I can only think of one other player that fits that description. But imagine getting him BEFORE his prime, not 3 years after the fact.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a name="40" rel="nofollow"></a>40.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;Watch for Andrew Sisco out of the Royals bullpen this weekend. He&#8217;s a Rule 5 kid that the Yanks need to make an all-out push for in the off-season. </p>
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He&#8217;s a 6&#8217;10&#8243; lefty and I can only think of one other player that fits that description. But imagine getting him BEFORE his prime, not 3 years after the fact.</p>
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		<title>By: randym77</title>
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		<dc:creator>randym77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2005 18:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a name=&quot;39&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;39.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;I&#039;m not so confident in RJ. But hopefully this time, Torre will have a quicker hook if there&#039;s a meltdown. Small is nice and rested...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a name="39" rel="nofollow"></a>39.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;I&#8217;m not so confident in RJ. But hopefully this time, Torre will have a quicker hook if there&#8217;s a meltdown. Small is nice and rested&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dan M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2005 18:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a name=&quot;38&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;38.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;Speaking of revisiting arguments, remember when everyone was pleased that Ruben Sierra was &quot;mentoring&quot; Cano? Steve Goldman&#039;s latest PB today reminded me why I was afraid of Ruben&#039;s influence (remember, my problem was that it was reported that Ruben was giving him &lt;strong class=&quot;hft-bold&quot;&gt;hitting&lt;/strong&gt; advice, and I thought Ruben had too many bad habits to be coaching anyone on that subject; I had no problem with Ruben giving him &quot;adjusting to the big leagues&quot; advice). Steve writes:&lt;/p&gt;
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&quot;Cano sees an average of 3.01 pitches per plate appearance. There have been 368 players in the majors this year who have had at least 125 plate appearances. Three-hundred and sixty-seven of them have looked at more pitches per plate appearance than has Cano. He is dead last.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
And please don&#039;t tell me that &quot;Cano&#039;s slumping because Ruben&#039;s in Tampa.&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a name="38" rel="nofollow"></a>38.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;Speaking of revisiting arguments, remember when everyone was pleased that Ruben Sierra was &#8220;mentoring&#8221; Cano? Steve Goldman&#8217;s latest PB today reminded me why I was afraid of Ruben&#8217;s influence (remember, my problem was that it was reported that Ruben was giving him <strong class="hft-bold">hitting</strong> advice, and I thought Ruben had too many bad habits to be coaching anyone on that subject; I had no problem with Ruben giving him &#8220;adjusting to the big leagues&#8221; advice). Steve writes:</p>
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&#8220;Cano sees an average of 3.01 pitches per plate appearance. There have been 368 players in the majors this year who have had at least 125 plate appearances. Three-hundred and sixty-seven of them have looked at more pitches per plate appearance than has Cano. He is dead last.&#8221;</p>
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And please don&#8217;t tell me that &#8220;Cano&#8217;s slumping because Ruben&#8217;s in Tampa.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: rilkefan</title>
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		<dc:creator>rilkefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2005 16:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a name=&quot;37&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;37.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;&quot;At this point, for the playoffs, is Chacon the #1 starter?&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
I expect we&#039;ll be in a race down to the wire and whoever&#039;s up will start game 1. That said, I&#039;d imagine Torre would try to shade things so Chacon would happen to be the guy up - or anyway I would. Though if Moose gets it together (not unlikely) or RJ does (seems unlikely) that would change. Chacon is still riding a small sample size.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a name="37" rel="nofollow"></a>37.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;&#8221;At this point, for the playoffs, is Chacon the #1 starter?&#8221;</p>
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I expect we&#8217;ll be in a race down to the wire and whoever&#8217;s up will start game 1. That said, I&#8217;d imagine Torre would try to shade things so Chacon would happen to be the guy up &#8211; or anyway I would. Though if Moose gets it together (not unlikely) or RJ does (seems unlikely) that would change. Chacon is still riding a small sample size.</p>
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		<title>By: Dimelo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dimelo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2005 16:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a name=&quot;36&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;36.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;Also, RJ was consistently clocked last year with a fastball that was at 95 - 97 MPH. This year it&#039;s usually around 91 - 93. His slider hangs more than it breaks down and in on righties. RJ suffered through a calf injury in spring training, he&#039;s been scratched a couple of times from the rotation, it&#039;s pretty hard in my book to blame any of that on Mel or Torre. The guy is just old and his pitches look like pi&#241;atas.  BUT Tonight, RJ is going to right the ship. Tonight he&#039;ll pitch like the 15 million dollar man we thought we were getting. Tonight...the Yankees will win.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a name="36" rel="nofollow"></a>36.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;Also, RJ was consistently clocked last year with a fastball that was at 95 &#8211; 97 MPH. This year it&#8217;s usually around 91 &#8211; 93. His slider hangs more than it breaks down and in on righties. RJ suffered through a calf injury in spring training, he&#8217;s been scratched a couple of times from the rotation, it&#8217;s pretty hard in my book to blame any of that on Mel or Torre. The guy is just old and his pitches look like pi&ntilde;atas.  BUT Tonight, RJ is going to right the ship. Tonight he&#8217;ll pitch like the 15 million dollar man we thought we were getting. Tonight&#8230;the Yankees will win.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe in NYC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe in NYC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2005 16:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a name=&quot;35&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;35.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;brockdc, I agree with Dimelo, but also, I would hardly say that Vazquez and Weaver have posted significant improvments. Vazquez had an ERA+ of 92 last year, 93 this year. Weaver had an ERA+ of 108 and then 73 with the Yanks, then 103 his first year with LAD, 97 this year (I think I calculated this year&#039;s right). The point is, they are not exactly shutting down the league.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a name="35" rel="nofollow"></a>35.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;brockdc, I agree with Dimelo, but also, I would hardly say that Vazquez and Weaver have posted significant improvments. Vazquez had an ERA+ of 92 last year, 93 this year. Weaver had an ERA+ of 108 and then 73 with the Yanks, then 103 his first year with LAD, 97 this year (I think I calculated this year&#8217;s right). The point is, they are not exactly shutting down the league.</p>
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		<title>By: jedi</title>
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		<dc:creator>jedi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2005 15:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a name=&quot;34&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;34.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;Sidenote...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Season Stats:&lt;br /&gt;
Javier Vazquez&lt;br /&gt;
10-12 4.67ERA 148K 34BB 1.26 WHIP&lt;br /&gt;
Brad Halsey &lt;br /&gt;
8-10 4.39ERA 79K 34BB 1.46WHIP&lt;br /&gt;
Randy Johnson&lt;br /&gt;
11-8 4.34ERA 167K 34BB 1.22WHIP&lt;/p&gt;
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I remember in the beginning of the season there were alot of people saying, &quot;Look at the game Halsey is pitching...&quot;, &quot;Look at how good Vazquez has been...&quot; Every post seem to bring down the notion that Johnson wasn&#039;t worth it. Did we really make a worthwhile trade?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Well, if you look at the numbers recently vazquez/halsey&#039;s seasons seem mediocure after all. Vasquez seems to have reverted back to his last year self with his poor second half, and Halsey is proving everyday he is a project with his inconsistency. The diamondbacks pitchers are in the weakest division in baseball while the yankee pitchers are battling it out in one of the toughests divisions. Dont give me the old line that &quot;their young, johnson is old, they will develop&quot; because vazquez and halsey have seen the big lights in NY and now the little lights in Arizona and nothing has seemed to changed in my mind. They seem like the frail pitchers we have seen all along. Let&#039;s just admit they will always be projects while Johnson will always be the show! &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Yes, Johnson has had one horrible inning coupled with a few bad pitches thrown at the wrong time. Yes, he has shown this season that he has been sub par from his previous years. But one thing I am glad about is that we have him going into september where it matters most. Just knowing he can shutdown a team anytime is good enough for me. Just knowing he is taking the mound against the sox later this season will get me hyped. Just knowing that he is a winner will let me keep on believing. The stats may not reflect that this year, but I just have a gut feeling he is not going out like that. Johnson will prove that stats do not define a season but moments. He is due for a big moment. The unit is on the hill tonite. Shut the critics up and give &#039;em hell!
&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a name="34" rel="nofollow"></a>34.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;Sidenote&#8230;</p>
<p>
Season Stats:<br />
Javier Vazquez<br />
10-12 4.67ERA 148K 34BB 1.26 WHIP<br />
Brad Halsey <br />
8-10 4.39ERA 79K 34BB 1.46WHIP<br />
Randy Johnson<br />
11-8 4.34ERA 167K 34BB 1.22WHIP</p>
<p>
I remember in the beginning of the season there were alot of people saying, &#8220;Look at the game Halsey is pitching&#8230;&#8221;, &#8220;Look at how good Vazquez has been&#8230;&#8221; Every post seem to bring down the notion that Johnson wasn&#8217;t worth it. Did we really make a worthwhile trade?</p>
<p>
Well, if you look at the numbers recently vazquez/halsey&#8217;s seasons seem mediocure after all. Vasquez seems to have reverted back to his last year self with his poor second half, and Halsey is proving everyday he is a project with his inconsistency. The diamondbacks pitchers are in the weakest division in baseball while the yankee pitchers are battling it out in one of the toughests divisions. Dont give me the old line that &#8220;their young, johnson is old, they will develop&#8221; because vazquez and halsey have seen the big lights in NY and now the little lights in Arizona and nothing has seemed to changed in my mind. They seem like the frail pitchers we have seen all along. Let&#8217;s just admit they will always be projects while Johnson will always be the show! </p>
<p>
Yes, Johnson has had one horrible inning coupled with a few bad pitches thrown at the wrong time. Yes, he has shown this season that he has been sub par from his previous years. But one thing I am glad about is that we have him going into september where it matters most. Just knowing he can shutdown a team anytime is good enough for me. Just knowing he is taking the mound against the sox later this season will get me hyped. Just knowing that he is a winner will let me keep on believing. The stats may not reflect that this year, but I just have a gut feeling he is not going out like that. Johnson will prove that stats do not define a season but moments. He is due for a big moment. The unit is on the hill tonite. Shut the critics up and give &#8216;em hell!</p>
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		<title>By: Murray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2005 15:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a name=&quot;33&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;33.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;Before counting certain guys as being improved as the result of leaving Mel&#039;s watchful eye, discount the stats to reflect the Yankees&#039; poor fielding numbers. I&#039;m not sure that Contreras has improved much, but his fielders certainly catch better. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The crime against pitching for which Stottlemyre is continually retried is Dwight Gooden. Stottlemyre&#039;s big sin was excessive concern with Gooden&#039;s ability to hold baserunners, but he didn&#039;t notice that there weren&#039;t any. It led to a noticeable change in Gooden&#039;s mechanics. As with everything, however, a confluence of factors affected Gooden: workload, immaturity, drug use, and, yes, Stottlemyre. At the time, nearly nobody in baseball worried about babying the arms of young pitchers. Who except for Weaver believed that the best way to develop starters by making them into long relievers first? Sabermetricians were starting to count pitches because they hadn&#039;t been counted before, but nobody truly knew what do do with the information. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Without consulting any reference sources, these are players developed by the Yankees over the past ten years:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Derek Jeter&lt;br /&gt;
Jorge Posada&lt;br /&gt;
Andy Pettitte&lt;br /&gt;
Mariano Rivera &lt;br /&gt;
Nick Johnson&lt;br /&gt;
Eric Milton&lt;br /&gt;
Alfonso Soriano&lt;br /&gt;
Brad Halsey&lt;br /&gt;
Brandon Claussen&lt;br /&gt;
D&#039;Angelo Jimenez&lt;br /&gt;
Robinson Cano&lt;br /&gt;
Dioner Navarro&lt;br /&gt;
Yhency Brazoban&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
With a few exceptions, the noteworthy thing about the list is how good the Yankees have been at identifying the best players in the bunch to keep for themselves.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a name="33" rel="nofollow"></a>33.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;Before counting certain guys as being improved as the result of leaving Mel&#8217;s watchful eye, discount the stats to reflect the Yankees&#8217; poor fielding numbers. I&#8217;m not sure that Contreras has improved much, but his fielders certainly catch better. </p>
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The crime against pitching for which Stottlemyre is continually retried is Dwight Gooden. Stottlemyre&#8217;s big sin was excessive concern with Gooden&#8217;s ability to hold baserunners, but he didn&#8217;t notice that there weren&#8217;t any. It led to a noticeable change in Gooden&#8217;s mechanics. As with everything, however, a confluence of factors affected Gooden: workload, immaturity, drug use, and, yes, Stottlemyre. At the time, nearly nobody in baseball worried about babying the arms of young pitchers. Who except for Weaver believed that the best way to develop starters by making them into long relievers first? Sabermetricians were starting to count pitches because they hadn&#8217;t been counted before, but nobody truly knew what do do with the information. </p>
<p>
Without consulting any reference sources, these are players developed by the Yankees over the past ten years:</p>
<p>
Derek Jeter<br />
Jorge Posada<br />
Andy Pettitte<br />
Mariano Rivera <br />
Nick Johnson<br />
Eric Milton<br />
Alfonso Soriano<br />
Brad Halsey<br />
Brandon Claussen<br />
D&#8217;Angelo Jimenez<br />
Robinson Cano<br />
Dioner Navarro<br />
Yhency Brazoban</p>
<p>
With a few exceptions, the noteworthy thing about the list is how good the Yankees have been at identifying the best players in the bunch to keep for themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Dimelo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dimelo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2005 15:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a name=&quot;32&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;32.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;brockdc - &lt;br /&gt;
Some of those pitchers you list there weren&#039;t with Mel long enough or there wasn&#039;t a place for them in the rotation.  &lt;br /&gt;
For example, Marte got traded to the Pirates for Enrique Wilson he didn&#039;t play enough for Mel at the major league level. Claussen pitched, I believe, one game for the Yankees. Halsey&#039;s another one that didn&#039;t play any significant amount of time under Mel, there was no room for Lilly when he was playing, Contreras sucked from the begining - hard to blame that on Mel. Clemens won a Cy Young - w/ Mel as his pitching coach.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a name="32" rel="nofollow"></a>32.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;brockdc &#8211; <br />
Some of those pitchers you list there weren&#8217;t with Mel long enough or there wasn&#8217;t a place for them in the rotation.  <br />
For example, Marte got traded to the Pirates for Enrique Wilson he didn&#8217;t play enough for Mel at the major league level. Claussen pitched, I believe, one game for the Yankees. Halsey&#8217;s another one that didn&#8217;t play any significant amount of time under Mel, there was no room for Lilly when he was playing, Contreras sucked from the begining &#8211; hard to blame that on Mel. Clemens won a Cy Young &#8211; w/ Mel as his pitching coach.</p>
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		<title>By: brockdc</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2005 14:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a name=&quot;31&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;31.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;Two things:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
First, I refuse to believe that Torre has been a plus this year. His calming influence has been negated by too many enigmatic and ill-conceived on-field moves (starting Womack so frequently, his poor use of the pen, et. al.). &lt;/p&gt;
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Secondly, I really have no idea how much influence Mel has on his pitching staffs - good, bad, or indiferent. Still, I&#039;ve always been alarmed at the number of former Yankee pitchers who go on to post significant improvements elsewhere, away from Mel and NY (Contreras, Javy, Claussen, Halsey, Clemens, Lilly, Marte, Weaver, and on, and on...). And, I don&#039;t know if this is commonplace, but what does it say when some of your top pitchers get tutelage from outside sources (Kerrigan with Johnson and Pettite&#039;s dad with Pettite)?
&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a name="31" rel="nofollow"></a>31.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;Two things:</p>
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First, I refuse to believe that Torre has been a plus this year. His calming influence has been negated by too many enigmatic and ill-conceived on-field moves (starting Womack so frequently, his poor use of the pen, et. al.). </p>
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Secondly, I really have no idea how much influence Mel has on his pitching staffs &#8211; good, bad, or indiferent. Still, I&#8217;ve always been alarmed at the number of former Yankee pitchers who go on to post significant improvements elsewhere, away from Mel and NY (Contreras, Javy, Claussen, Halsey, Clemens, Lilly, Marte, Weaver, and on, and on&#8230;). And, I don&#8217;t know if this is commonplace, but what does it say when some of your top pitchers get tutelage from outside sources (Kerrigan with Johnson and Pettite&#8217;s dad with Pettite)?</p>
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		<title>By: rbj</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2005 14:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a name=&quot;30&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;30.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;Are Small, Leiter, Chacon something to be given credit for, or are they just good luck. Sort of like Wang, Pavano, Wright going on the DL bad luck. &lt;br /&gt;
Brown getting hurt wasn&#039;t due to any sort of luck, that was eminently predictable.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
At this point, for the playoffs, is Chacon the #1 starter?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a name="30" rel="nofollow"></a>30.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;Are Small, Leiter, Chacon something to be given credit for, or are they just good luck. Sort of like Wang, Pavano, Wright going on the DL bad luck. <br />
Brown getting hurt wasn&#8217;t due to any sort of luck, that was eminently predictable.</p>
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At this point, for the playoffs, is Chacon the #1 starter?</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2005 14:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a name=&quot;29&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;29.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;Nick, I think that&#039;s why I&#039;m on the fence with Mel. There certainly seems to be convincing evidence that he&#039;s not a good pitching coach . . . but, like you say, anything contrary to that conclusion always gets brushed aside.&lt;/p&gt;
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I like sabermetrics so much because it lets me look at the information and made the conclusions on my own. When people discuss Mel, here and elsewhere, too often we&#039;re told the conclusion first - he sucks - and then the evidence is stacked to support that conclusion. I&#039;d rather just get the objective evidence of both good and bad, and figure it out for myself.&lt;/p&gt;
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Jay Jaffe and Steven Goldman were supposed to do something like that - at least the Pinstriped Bible/Blog said so once - but then it never happened. Maybe this offseason?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a name="29" rel="nofollow"></a>29.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;Nick, I think that&#8217;s why I&#8217;m on the fence with Mel. There certainly seems to be convincing evidence that he&#8217;s not a good pitching coach . . . but, like you say, anything contrary to that conclusion always gets brushed aside.</p>
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I like sabermetrics so much because it lets me look at the information and made the conclusions on my own. When people discuss Mel, here and elsewhere, too often we&#8217;re told the conclusion first &#8211; he sucks &#8211; and then the evidence is stacked to support that conclusion. I&#8217;d rather just get the objective evidence of both good and bad, and figure it out for myself.</p>
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Jay Jaffe and Steven Goldman were supposed to do something like that &#8211; at least the Pinstriped Bible/Blog said so once &#8211; but then it never happened. Maybe this offseason?</p>
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		<title>By: Dimelo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dimelo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2005 14:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a name=&quot;28&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;28.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;It&#039;s funny, I only started hearing and reading about all the criticism about Mel after the book, The Bad Guys Won, by Jeff Pearlman was published. It was there that the first big criticism of Mel was produced and how he destroyed Doc Gooden. Lest we forget that Doc was doing more lines than Tony Montana in the final scene of Scarface. &lt;/p&gt;
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Mel is an easy target, Clemens and Pettite thought the world of him, but like Nick from the Heights said, the naysayers &lt;br /&gt;
always put themselves in a pretty favorable position to knock him down and diminish what he&#039;s done.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a name="28" rel="nofollow"></a>28.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;It&#8217;s funny, I only started hearing and reading about all the criticism about Mel after the book, The Bad Guys Won, by Jeff Pearlman was published. It was there that the first big criticism of Mel was produced and how he destroyed Doc Gooden. Lest we forget that Doc was doing more lines than Tony Montana in the final scene of Scarface. </p>
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Mel is an easy target, Clemens and Pettite thought the world of him, but like Nick from the Heights said, the naysayers <br />
always put themselves in a pretty favorable position to knock him down and diminish what he&#8217;s done.</p>
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		<title>By: Alvaro Espinoza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alvaro Espinoza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2005 13:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a name=&quot;27&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;27.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;Enough of this wild card talk! It&#039;s time to dust these Boston punks but good. Let&#039;s start by unmercifully disposing of KC and then running roughshod over OAK &amp; SEA a la May &#039;05. By 9/12, I want to see the stars re-align w/ the Bombers back atop the AL East. &lt;br /&gt;
Let Curt Blowhard and his Idiots spend September trying to hold on to a post season spot. &lt;/p&gt;
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Would there be anything sweeter than officially eliminating those punks from postseason contention in their own park the last series of the year?&lt;/p&gt;
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(Yeah, I put the cart before the horse. So what!)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a name="27" rel="nofollow"></a>27.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;Enough of this wild card talk! It&#8217;s time to dust these Boston punks but good. Let&#8217;s start by unmercifully disposing of KC and then running roughshod over OAK &#038; SEA a la May &#8217;05. By 9/12, I want to see the stars re-align w/ the Bombers back atop the AL East. <br />
Let Curt Blowhard and his Idiots spend September trying to hold on to a post season spot. </p>
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Would there be anything sweeter than officially eliminating those punks from postseason contention in their own park the last series of the year?</p>
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(Yeah, I put the cart before the horse. So what!)</p>
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		<title>By: Nick from Washington Heights</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2005 13:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a name=&quot;26&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;26.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;Shaun P., I&#039;m actually not sure what to think about Mel either. That said, for some reason it bothers me that the line of argument that many Mel critics have used in the past seems very one-sided. If you&#039;re going to say that Mel is influential in the bad cases and not influential in the good cases then you&#039;ve set up a very winnable argument for yourself.&lt;/p&gt;
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Suppose I think that Wang is a young pitcher that did very well under Mel&#039;s tutelage. Well, Mel&#039;s critics have set up a sure-fire way to discredit that argument. It was the way his minor league pitching coach dealt with him that contributed to his success. What about the wonder that has been Mariano&#039;s healthy career? Well, Mariano is Mariano. He&#039;s basically a diety and he didn&#039;t need help. And Aaron Small&#039;s performance against major league hitters? Well, that&#039;s his minor league coach again. Mel hasn&#039;t even spoken to him since he got to the Big Show.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a name="26" rel="nofollow"></a>26.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;Shaun P., I&#8217;m actually not sure what to think about Mel either. That said, for some reason it bothers me that the line of argument that many Mel critics have used in the past seems very one-sided. If you&#8217;re going to say that Mel is influential in the bad cases and not influential in the good cases then you&#8217;ve set up a very winnable argument for yourself.</p>
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Suppose I think that Wang is a young pitcher that did very well under Mel&#8217;s tutelage. Well, Mel&#8217;s critics have set up a sure-fire way to discredit that argument. It was the way his minor league pitching coach dealt with him that contributed to his success. What about the wonder that has been Mariano&#8217;s healthy career? Well, Mariano is Mariano. He&#8217;s basically a diety and he didn&#8217;t need help. And Aaron Small&#8217;s performance against major league hitters? Well, that&#8217;s his minor league coach again. Mel hasn&#8217;t even spoken to him since he got to the Big Show.</p>
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		<title>By: ChuckM</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChuckM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2005 13:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a name=&quot;25&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;25.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;From the NY Times: Carl Pavano, who worked with Stottlemyre on mechanics after giving up four homers to the Mariners on May 11, bounced back with a five-hit shutout in Seattle on Tuesday night.&lt;/p&gt;
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Al Leiter in Newsday Aug 8: &quot;I get amped up. I rush and I don&#039;t allow my arm to get up to a decent release point,&quot; he said. &quot;But I worked with Mel on being a little more deliberate. I feel comfortable with Mel. I told him, if you see anything wrong, tell me. It won&#039;t hurt my feelings.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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From the Aug 9th Star Ledger: Sturtze got some help from pitching coach Mel Stottlemyre, who worked with the pitcher on his mechanics before the game.&lt;/p&gt;
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&quot;It was great that Joe called on me, because I wanted to get back out there,&quot; Sturtze said. &quot;Toronto was so awful, and I wanted to get that taste out of my mouth.&quot; &lt;/p&gt;
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You can read all about people working w/Mel on their mechanics-try looking for it...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a name="25" rel="nofollow"></a>25.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;From the NY Times: Carl Pavano, who worked with Stottlemyre on mechanics after giving up four homers to the Mariners on May 11, bounced back with a five-hit shutout in Seattle on Tuesday night.</p>
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Al Leiter in Newsday Aug 8: &#8220;I get amped up. I rush and I don&#8217;t allow my arm to get up to a decent release point,&#8221; he said. &#8220;But I worked with Mel on being a little more deliberate. I feel comfortable with Mel. I told him, if you see anything wrong, tell me. It won&#8217;t hurt my feelings.&#8221;</p>
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From the Aug 9th Star Ledger: Sturtze got some help from pitching coach Mel Stottlemyre, who worked with the pitcher on his mechanics before the game.</p>
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&#8220;It was great that Joe called on me, because I wanted to get back out there,&#8221; Sturtze said. &#8220;Toronto was so awful, and I wanted to get that taste out of my mouth.&#8221; </p>
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You can read all about people working w/Mel on their mechanics-try looking for it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Joe in NYC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe in NYC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2005 13:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a name=&quot;24&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;24.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;Didn&#039;t know Bradley went on the DL, Shaun. Thanks. Too bad for the Yankees.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a name="24" rel="nofollow"></a>24.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;Didn&#8217;t know Bradley went on the DL, Shaun. Thanks. Too bad for the Yankees.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Belth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Belth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2005 13:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a name=&quot;23&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;23.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;I dont&#039; know what the defensive statistics say about Rodriguez&#039;s range, but it seems to me that he&#039;s got a lot more than Ventura or even Brosius. I don&#039;t recall that being Brosius&#039; strong suit especially. I don&#039;t think Rodriguez has spectacular range but he&#039;s probably good enough in that department to have lent Jeter a hand being able to cheat up the middle.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a name="23" rel="nofollow"></a>23.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;I dont&#8217; know what the defensive statistics say about Rodriguez&#8217;s range, but it seems to me that he&#8217;s got a lot more than Ventura or even Brosius. I don&#8217;t recall that being Brosius&#8217; strong suit especially. I don&#8217;t think Rodriguez has spectacular range but he&#8217;s probably good enough in that department to have lent Jeter a hand being able to cheat up the middle.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe in NYC</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2005 13:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a name=&quot;22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;22.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;Nick, It seems rather coincidental that Jeter&#039;s defense, at age 30 and 31 seasons, suddenly improved drastically (rather than declining, which is more common, at least by age 32-33) when a GG SS began playing 3B right next to him.&lt;/p&gt;
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I think he&#039;s positioned more to the right.&lt;/p&gt;
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Although, I have to admit, I don&#039;t know the &quot;rate&quot; stat Cliff and Dan-el quote. Jeter&#039;s Zone Rating hasn&#039;t changed much (.789-.855 over his career), he&#039;s at .818 this year, which makes sense. He&#039;s not getting to more batted balls, just more of the ones to the right, leaving some of those to the left to ARod.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a name="22" rel="nofollow"></a>22.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;Nick, It seems rather coincidental that Jeter&#8217;s defense, at age 30 and 31 seasons, suddenly improved drastically (rather than declining, which is more common, at least by age 32-33) when a GG SS began playing 3B right next to him.</p>
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I think he&#8217;s positioned more to the right.</p>
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Although, I have to admit, I don&#8217;t know the &#8220;rate&#8221; stat Cliff and Dan-el quote. Jeter&#8217;s Zone Rating hasn&#8217;t changed much (.789-.855 over his career), he&#8217;s at .818 this year, which makes sense. He&#8217;s not getting to more batted balls, just more of the ones to the right, leaving some of those to the left to ARod.</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2005 12:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a name=&quot;21&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;21.&lt;/b&gt;&#160;&#160;Joe, I like Bradley&#039;s CF play and his offense, but he just went on the DL and is likely going to miss the rest of this year and maybe part of &#039;06 as well.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a name="21" rel="nofollow"></a>21.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;Joe, I like Bradley&#8217;s CF play and his offense, but he just went on the DL and is likely going to miss the rest of this year and maybe part of &#8217;06 as well.</p>
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