Comments on: News of the Day http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/10/28/news-of-the-day-2/ Development site for Bronx Banter Blog's upcoming look and feel Fri, 24 May 2013 03:48:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: Chyll Will http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/10/28/news-of-the-day-2/#comment-63458 Chyll Will Tue, 28 Oct 2008 23:23:34 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=3236#comment-63458 Hey guys, what'd I miss? >;) Hey guys, what’d I miss? >;)

]]> By: Cliff Corcoran http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/10/28/news-of-the-day-2/#comment-63457 Cliff Corcoran Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:57:24 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=3236#comment-63457 OYF, the problem as I see it having experienced it first-hand in last night's game thread, is that nesting might be more convenient for someone coming in after the fact looking to read all related posts, but <i>in the moment</i> it's not conducive to the fast-paced, multi-topic conversations that we tend to have here, particularly during games. Having to scan back over an entire comment thread to look for nested responses and then having to reply to each thread separately takes way too long, particularly when you have one eye on the game and new comments are going up several time a minute. It's my impression that readers are less likely to want to read an old comment thread than they are to want to be able to participate efficiently in a new one, thus streamlining the process for active threads is my primary concern. I, like you, thought on first glance that the nesting would be an improvement, but having seen it in action on an active thread I've changed my mind and the other commenters in that thread seemed to be in unanimous agreement on the nesting issue. Having both options would only complicate things further. I think we all need to play by the same rules here. As for the text in the input box, I'll add it to the list of things to address. OYF, the problem as I see it having experienced it first-hand in last night’s game thread, is that nesting might be more convenient for someone coming in after the fact looking to read all related posts, but in the moment it’s not conducive to the fast-paced, multi-topic conversations that we tend to have here, particularly during games. Having to scan back over an entire comment thread to look for nested responses and then having to reply to each thread separately takes way too long, particularly when you have one eye on the game and new comments are going up several time a minute. It’s my impression that readers are less likely to want to read an old comment thread than they are to want to be able to participate efficiently in a new one, thus streamlining the process for active threads is my primary concern.

I, like you, thought on first glance that the nesting would be an improvement, but having seen it in action on an active thread I’ve changed my mind and the other commenters in that thread seemed to be in unanimous agreement on the nesting issue. Having both options would only complicate things further. I think we all need to play by the same rules here.

As for the text in the input box, I’ll add it to the list of things to address.

]]> By: OldYanksFan http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/10/28/news-of-the-day-2/#comment-63456 OldYanksFan Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:39:03 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=3236#comment-63456 [9] Cliff... Another thought. PS: The text in this input box is now pretty small. Can to increase the size a point or 2? Lets say there are 500 comments, and 12 are in response to comment [9]. Now I log on and read comment 9. In order to see every one that has replied to it, I have to read the entire thread. This is where nesting is far superior... and offers comtinuity on topics/replies. However, I always have the option of just positng my reply like: [9] Heres my reply, and it will be the last comment posted. (like the 'old' days. So, if you turn nesting back on, the commenter can choose 'to nest or not to nest'. Now, the only option is ONLY NOT to nest. Also, since comments are now numbered (GREAT), if the last comment in the post ''list' is [422], but a nested comment is [423], well.... at least ya know that when that reply was made. (numbers are a lot easier to digest and remember then clock times) I would turn nesting back on, but encourage people to use [##] if they like, instead of having their comment nested. [9] Cliff… Another thought.

PS: The text in this input box is now pretty small. Can to increase the size a point or 2?

Lets say there are 500 comments, and 12 are in response to comment [9]. Now I log on and read comment 9. In order to see every one that has replied to it, I have to read the entire thread. This is where nesting is far superior… and offers comtinuity on topics/replies.

However, I always have the option of just positng my reply like:
[9] Heres my reply,
and it will be the last comment posted. (like the ‘old’ days.

So, if you turn nesting back on, the commenter can choose ‘to nest or not to nest’. Now, the only option is ONLY NOT to nest. Also, since comments are now numbered (GREAT), if the last comment in the post ”list’ is [422], but a nested comment is [423], well…. at least ya know that when that reply was made. (numbers are a lot easier to digest and remember then clock times)

I would turn nesting back on, but encourage people to use [##] if they like, instead of having their comment nested.

]]> By: thelarmis http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/10/28/news-of-the-day-2/#comment-63455 thelarmis Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:53:57 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=3236#comment-63455 [12] i'm using Firefox on what i think is a PC, also. i just have a little laptop. bottom of the line old Dell. my friend set it up where when my main browser comes up, there are 4 different website tabs atop. one, of course, is bronx banter, but it's the toaster address. do you know how i can change it to where that one tab opens to here? if not, it's all good, i just follow the link from the "movin' on" post at the toaster for now and i'll call my buddy for help... btw, all the posts just became the color red. i know you guys are doing eighty million things at once in regards to the new site. thanks for workin' with us on the kinks! [12] i’m using Firefox on what i think is a PC, also. i just have a little laptop. bottom of the line old Dell. my friend set it up where when my main browser comes up, there are 4 different website tabs atop. one, of course, is bronx banter, but it’s the toaster address. do you know how i can change it to where that one tab opens to here? if not, it’s all good, i just follow the link from the “movin’ on” post at the toaster for now and i’ll call my buddy for help…

btw, all the posts just became the color red. i know you guys are doing eighty million things at once in regards to the new site. thanks for workin’ with us on the kinks!

]]> By: Diane Firstman http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/10/28/news-of-the-day-2/#comment-63454 Diane Firstman Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:52:08 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=3236#comment-63454 [13] John McCain paid for it ... [13]

John McCain paid for it …

]]> By: Pete http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/10/28/news-of-the-day-2/#comment-63453 Pete Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:51:11 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=3236#comment-63453 and now everything is in a grey box. Tweaking in action!!! :) and now everything is in a grey box. Tweaking in action!!! :)

]]> By: Pete http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/10/28/news-of-the-day-2/#comment-63452 Pete Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:50:48 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=3236#comment-63452 Speaking of feedback, all the type is red right now. :) Speaking of feedback, all the type is red right now. :)

]]> By: Cliff Corcoran http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/10/28/news-of-the-day-2/#comment-63451 Cliff Corcoran Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:45:15 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=3236#comment-63451 Okay. I'm using FireFox on a PC with no issue, but I'll add your concern to the list. As we said yesterday, bear with us. There may be a lot of tweaking going on around here for a while. Just because we change something doesn't mean we won't change if further or change it back. But do please keep the feedback coming. It's very helpful. Okay. I’m using FireFox on a PC with no issue, but I’ll add your concern to the list. As we said yesterday, bear with us. There may be a lot of tweaking going on around here for a while. Just because we change something doesn’t mean we won’t change if further or change it back. But do please keep the feedback coming. It’s very helpful.

]]> By: Pete http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/10/28/news-of-the-day-2/#comment-63450 Pete Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:33:49 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=3236#comment-63450 Well the whole point of the numbers was that you could link back to the original post by putting it in brackets. Wordpress doesn't seem to have that functionality, so ultimately what's the use of the numbers? Anyway, I won't argue this point much, just pointing out how the nesting feature seems more intuitive to someone like myself. Toaster was more like "Web 1.0" in its technology, and I'm sure that's why a lot of the older readers were more comfortable with it. Things were straight-forward, flat, and relatively easy to follow. However there's plenty of sites that use nesting for game threads — bloggingtheboys.com (a site I frequent), for example, has the feature and while there's massive amounts of posts flying around during the games, they seem to manage it all well enough. River Avenue Blues uses nesting as well, and they get quite a bit of traffic too. Anyway, as for the dialog box, I'm using FireFox on a Mac — I realize I'm completely in the minority so I won't expect you to labor over it much because of *me*, but this wasn't happening as of yesterday (or even this morning), and it's sort of annoying to post here because of it. Well the whole point of the numbers was that you could link back to the original post by putting it in brackets. WordPress doesn’t seem to have that functionality, so ultimately what’s the use of the numbers?

Anyway, I won’t argue this point much, just pointing out how the nesting feature seems more intuitive to someone like myself. Toaster was more like “Web 1.0″ in its technology, and I’m sure that’s why a lot of the older readers were more comfortable with it. Things were straight-forward, flat, and relatively easy to follow.

However there’s plenty of sites that use nesting for game threads — bloggingtheboys.com (a site I frequent), for example, has the feature and while there’s massive amounts of posts flying around during the games, they seem to manage it all well enough.

River Avenue Blues uses nesting as well, and they get quite a bit of traffic too.

Anyway, as for the dialog box, I’m using FireFox on a Mac — I realize I’m completely in the minority so I won’t expect you to labor over it much because of *me*, but this wasn’t happening as of yesterday (or even this morning), and it’s sort of annoying to post here because of it.

]]> By: Diane Firstman http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/10/28/news-of-the-day-2/#comment-63449 Diane Firstman Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:30:22 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=3236#comment-63449 [6] Thanks ... glad you like it! [6]

Thanks … glad you like it!

]]> By: Cliff Corcoran http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/10/28/news-of-the-day-2/#comment-63448 Cliff Corcoran Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:20:37 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=3236#comment-63448 Pete, we concluded after last night's game thread that, while the nesting comments are fun for shorter threads like this one, for the long and rapid-fire exchanges during games it's just too difficult to follow as you have to scan the whole thread to see if anyone's replied to a given conversation. As for that extended dialog box. That's particularly strange as that's not what my screen looks like. In fact, even the shape of the buttons differs i that screen grab from what I have here. What browser are you using? Pete, we concluded after last night’s game thread that, while the nesting comments are fun for shorter threads like this one, for the long and rapid-fire exchanges during games it’s just too difficult to follow as you have to scan the whole thread to see if anyone’s replied to a given conversation.

As for that extended dialog box. That’s particularly strange as that’s not what my screen looks like. In fact, even the shape of the buttons differs i that screen grab from what I have here. What browser are you using?

]]> By: Pete http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/10/28/news-of-the-day-2/#comment-63447 Pete Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:14:49 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=3236#comment-63447 Wow, no more nested comments? I actually liked those a lot, and it made replying to someone easier. The numbers thing was a bit antiquated IMO. Don't try to make it *exactly* like the Toaster, guys — there are definitely some advantages to hosting on Wordpress. Oh, and can this be fixed, btw: http://tinyurl.com/5nlbs5 I can't see what I'm typing! Wow, no more nested comments? I actually liked those a lot, and it made replying to someone easier. The numbers thing was a bit antiquated IMO.

Don’t try to make it *exactly* like the Toaster, guys — there are definitely some advantages to hosting on WordPress.

Oh, and can this be fixed, btw:

http://tinyurl.com/5nlbs5

I can’t see what I’m typing!

]]> By: thelarmis http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/10/28/news-of-the-day-2/#comment-63446 thelarmis Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:57:10 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=3236#comment-63446 [6] hey, alright! the EDT clock is awesome and i'm glad the commenter names are back to being bigger. i'm happy the comments are numbered now. i wonder if they should be in bold. comment preview is cool and am sure will say "your" soon enough. you guys are quick to the fix and it's much appreciated! thanks for the password info shaun. i went in and changed mine. i think everything is all set... ps - for those wondering, there's a short post on Nino Espinosa at Cardboard Gods today... [6] hey, alright! the EDT clock is awesome and i’m glad the commenter names are back to being bigger. i’m happy the comments are numbered now. i wonder if they should be in bold. comment preview is cool and am sure will say “your” soon enough. you guys are quick to the fix and it’s much appreciated!

thanks for the password info shaun. i went in and changed mine. i think everything is all set…

ps – for those wondering, there’s a short post on Nino Espinosa at Cardboard Gods today…

]]> By: Shaun P. http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/10/28/news-of-the-day-2/#comment-63445 Shaun P. Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:47:02 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=3236#comment-63445 Cool! Comment preview, comments in chronological order, and the clock is EDT. Well done Alex, Cliff, et al. Cool! Comment preview, comments in chronological order, and the clock is EDT. Well done Alex, Cliff, et al.

]]> By: thelarmis http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/10/28/news-of-the-day-2/#comment-63444 thelarmis Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:44:01 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=3236#comment-63444 thanks for the previewing feature. i guess you're gonna have to fix the grammar, it says: "Preview YOU Comment" : ) the commenter's names are now really small. any way to put them back to the larger print? thanks guys! ps - i'm digging diane's "news of the day" posts w/ links and todd drew's human interest stories. welcome aboard, we're happy to read you! thanks for the previewing feature. i guess you’re gonna have to fix the grammar, it says: “Preview YOU Comment” : )

the commenter’s names are now really small. any way to put them back to the larger print?

thanks guys!

ps – i’m digging diane’s “news of the day” posts w/ links and todd drew’s human interest stories. welcome aboard, we’re happy to read you!

]]> By: Alex Belth http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/10/28/news-of-the-day-2/#comment-63443 Alex Belth Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:34:14 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=3236#comment-63443 Ah, Brett Garnder... Ah, Brett Garnder…

]]> By: Pete http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/10/28/news-of-the-day-2/#comment-63442 Pete Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:25:56 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=3236#comment-63442 And I would assume the players on that list would be required a certain # of ABs or appearances at the AAA level? I didn't see that info anywhere on BA's site... then again I'm not a subscriber. :) And I would assume the players on that list would be required a certain # of ABs or appearances at the AAA level?

I didn’t see that info anywhere on BA’s site… then again I’m not a subscriber. :)

]]> By: Cliff Corcoran http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/10/28/news-of-the-day-2/#comment-63441 Cliff Corcoran Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:00:33 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=3236#comment-63441 Man, where was that seminar when I was at Rutgers? Pete, note that Garder's the only one on the list <u>at Triple-A</u>, and that's among the top 20 prospects at that level in all of baseball. Actually, if you ask me, Gardner's not the top Yankee prospect at Triple-A (he's also not at Triple-A in my mind, but the major league starting CF until further notice). I'd probably put Mark Melancon as the Yankees' top triple-A prospect, and Ian Kennedy might still be neck-and-neck with Gardner, if only because he's younger. Also, Austin Jackson will be in Triple-A in '09, so there's more on the way. Man, where was that seminar when I was at Rutgers?

Pete, note that Garder’s the only one on the list at Triple-A, and that’s among the top 20 prospects at that level in all of baseball. Actually, if you ask me, Gardner’s not the top Yankee prospect at Triple-A (he’s also not at Triple-A in my mind, but the major league starting CF until further notice). I’d probably put Mark Melancon as the Yankees’ top triple-A prospect, and Ian Kennedy might still be neck-and-neck with Gardner, if only because he’s younger. Also, Austin Jackson will be in Triple-A in ’09, so there’s more on the way.

]]> By: Pete http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/10/28/news-of-the-day-2/#comment-63440 Pete Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:44:40 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=3236#comment-63440 Brett Gardner? That's it, really? sigh... Brett Gardner? That’s it, really?

sigh…

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