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		<title>By: OldYanksFan</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/11/18/news-of-the-day-111808/#comment-64253</link>
		<dc:creator>OldYanksFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I mentioned in the last post, but I&#039;ll say it again, and ask other Banterers to state WHO THEY WOULD GET this offseason. Please stick with realistic transactions (2/$50 for Manny is not realistic).

I am reading that CC doesn&#039;t want to be in NY (and he has not yet accepted what will obviously be the biggest offer), Long contract, overpaying on AAV and deosn&#039;t want the Yankees? I say pass.

Tex: offer 6/$132. No more then 6 years. The money is not as important.

Franlky, I am OK with staying pat... aside from looking for Swisher type deals. Solid, rounded players at a reasonable cost.

I&#039;m OK finishing 3rd if it comes to that.
Trying to win in 2009 is not worth getting scalped.

I like Holliday. I like Crawford. I like the idea that FAs will be cheaper next year and maybe again the year after.
I like the ideas of smart deals.
I like the idea of NO desparation deals.
We lose Matsui and JD next year.

By 2010, we basically have Wang, Joba, ARod, Cano, Mo and a fading Jeter and Posada.
We have no outfield.
We have a limited SP staff.
This team needs to be almost totally rebuilt. We can&#039;t even be sure Po is still in the picture as an impact player.
If we were willing to NOT win this/next year, we could have gotten 2 picks for Marte.

I say: REBUILD for longterm Dominance.
Understand the keys are: 1) Farm system 2) International Signings 3) Selected, expensive FAs.

The Sox have as much money to spend as we do, as they have a core of cheap kids. They are here for a while.
If TB decides to raise their payroll by $20m, after adding Price, they could also be serious players for a while.

We had our run. It was historic. But it is over.
We may be throwing good money after bad, by overpaying in $$ and year to get CC, Lowe, AJ, Tex, etc.
Mind you, we MIGHT win with these guys. It&#039;s certainly possible.
But I think it&#039;s more likely we are perpetuating our: overpaid, inflexible, ALMOST good enough team.

I&#039;ve been rooting for the Yankees since 1965.
At 55 and fat, I could be sharing games with Jim Dean next year... who knows.
But I am willing to wait.
We are the New York Yankees. It is time to start winning on intelligent management and player development, with our money the icing on the cake.

I think my post maybe reflects how Emma feels. Maybe others feel this way. But nobody has outright stated that they are willing to wait 2 years.

Emma... if you don&#039;t want CC and Tex (at the current going rate) what do you propose? Banterers.... what do you propose?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mentioned in the last post, but I&#8217;ll say it again, and ask other Banterers to state WHO THEY WOULD GET this offseason. Please stick with realistic transactions (2/$50 for Manny is not realistic).</p>
<p>I am reading that CC doesn&#8217;t want to be in NY (and he has not yet accepted what will obviously be the biggest offer), Long contract, overpaying on AAV and deosn&#8217;t want the Yankees? I say pass.</p>
<p>Tex: offer 6/$132. No more then 6 years. The money is not as important.</p>
<p>Franlky, I am OK with staying pat&#8230; aside from looking for Swisher type deals. Solid, rounded players at a reasonable cost.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m OK finishing 3rd if it comes to that.<br />
Trying to win in 2009 is not worth getting scalped.</p>
<p>I like Holliday. I like Crawford. I like the idea that FAs will be cheaper next year and maybe again the year after.<br />
I like the ideas of smart deals.<br />
I like the idea of NO desparation deals.<br />
We lose Matsui and JD next year.</p>
<p>By 2010, we basically have Wang, Joba, ARod, Cano, Mo and a fading Jeter and Posada.<br />
We have no outfield.<br />
We have a limited SP staff.<br />
This team needs to be almost totally rebuilt. We can&#8217;t even be sure Po is still in the picture as an impact player.<br />
If we were willing to NOT win this/next year, we could have gotten 2 picks for Marte.</p>
<p>I say: REBUILD for longterm Dominance.<br />
Understand the keys are: 1) Farm system 2) International Signings 3) Selected, expensive FAs.</p>
<p>The Sox have as much money to spend as we do, as they have a core of cheap kids. They are here for a while.<br />
If TB decides to raise their payroll by $20m, after adding Price, they could also be serious players for a while.</p>
<p>We had our run. It was historic. But it is over.<br />
We may be throwing good money after bad, by overpaying in $$ and year to get CC, Lowe, AJ, Tex, etc.<br />
Mind you, we MIGHT win with these guys. It&#8217;s certainly possible.<br />
But I think it&#8217;s more likely we are perpetuating our: overpaid, inflexible, ALMOST good enough team.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been rooting for the Yankees since 1965.<br />
At 55 and fat, I could be sharing games with Jim Dean next year&#8230; who knows.<br />
But I am willing to wait.<br />
We are the New York Yankees. It is time to start winning on intelligent management and player development, with our money the icing on the cake.</p>
<p>I think my post maybe reflects how Emma feels. Maybe others feel this way. But nobody has outright stated that they are willing to wait 2 years.</p>
<p>Emma&#8230; if you don&#8217;t want CC and Tex (at the current going rate) what do you propose? Banterers&#8230;. what do you propose?</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun P.</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/11/18/news-of-the-day-111808/#comment-64252</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaun P.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=4543&amp;cp=1#comment-82018&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;[3]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=4543&amp;cp=1#comment-82019&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;[4]&lt;/a&gt;, this isn&#039;t the first hacky piece of sports writing about the Yanks that Leitch has done at New York Mag: see &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/07/24/coming-around-the-bend/#5&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/09/17/wha-happen/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.  I&#039;m starting to wonder if its intentional, to drum up attention.  I always found Will to be a better writer than this.  Shoot, he&#039;s even got an interview up with the FJM guys at Deadspin - those guys would have taken him to town on junk like this.

(Aside: in the old posts ported over from the Toaster, the old number links still work!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=4543&amp;cp=1#comment-82018" rel="nofollow">[3]</a> <a href="http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=4543&amp;cp=1#comment-82019" rel="nofollow">[4]</a>, this isn&#8217;t the first hacky piece of sports writing about the Yanks that Leitch has done at New York Mag: see <a href="http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/07/24/coming-around-the-bend/#5" rel="nofollow">here</a> and <a href="http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/09/17/wha-happen/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.  I&#8217;m starting to wonder if its intentional, to drum up attention.  I always found Will to be a better writer than this.  Shoot, he&#8217;s even got an interview up with the FJM guys at Deadspin &#8211; those guys would have taken him to town on junk like this.</p>
<p>(Aside: in the old posts ported over from the Toaster, the old number links still work!)</p>
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		<title>By: seattleyank</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/11/18/news-of-the-day-111808/#comment-64251</link>
		<dc:creator>seattleyank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loved the Swisher trade...unless it actually means the Yanks are now not making a push for Tex.  Several writers whose opinions I greatly respect (Keith Law, Rob Neyer) said that the Yanks will love Swish if they plan on using him in the outfield, but as their starting 1B, not so much.  And if us getting Swish facilitates the Red Sox getting Tex, that&#039;s a big net loss for us</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved the Swisher trade&#8230;unless it actually means the Yanks are now not making a push for Tex.  Several writers whose opinions I greatly respect (Keith Law, Rob Neyer) said that the Yanks will love Swish if they plan on using him in the outfield, but as their starting 1B, not so much.  And if us getting Swish facilitates the Red Sox getting Tex, that&#8217;s a big net loss for us</p>
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		<title>By: Diane Firstman</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/11/18/news-of-the-day-111808/#comment-64250</link>
		<dc:creator>Diane Firstman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[3]

Well, I wasn&#039;t a fan of Leitch during his days at Deadspin, but I thought I&#039;d put it out there for discussion.

I *did* have fun pointing out his &quot;plate appearance&quot; error, though. :-)</description>
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<p>Well, I wasn&#8217;t a fan of Leitch during his days at Deadspin, but I thought I&#8217;d put it out there for discussion.</p>
<p>I *did* have fun pointing out his &#8220;plate appearance&#8221; error, though. <img src='http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Kabak</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/11/18/news-of-the-day-111808/#comment-64249</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Kabak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That Will Leitch bit is the hackiest piece of hack sports writing I&#039;ve read from New York mag in a long time. Do we really have to acknowledge it as a valid point of view?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That Will Leitch bit is the hackiest piece of hack sports writing I&#8217;ve read from New York mag in a long time. Do we really have to acknowledge it as a valid point of view?</p>
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		<title>By: Diane Firstman</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/11/18/news-of-the-day-111808/#comment-64248</link>
		<dc:creator>Diane Firstman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes .... Pastadiving Jeter, an all-you-can eat &quot;home plate&quot; of your favorite pasta, topped with your choice of &quot;clutch sauce&quot;.  So much food, you&#039;ll barely be able to move afterwards (especially to your left). :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes &#8230;. Pastadiving Jeter, an all-you-can eat &#8220;home plate&#8221; of your favorite pasta, topped with your choice of &#8220;clutch sauce&#8221;.  So much food, you&#8217;ll barely be able to move afterwards (especially to your left). <img src='http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Alex Belth</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/11/18/news-of-the-day-111808/#comment-64247</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Belth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 13:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Pastadiving Jeter&quot;?  Yo D, you are too much.  Thanks for making my morning!  LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Pastadiving Jeter&#8221;?  Yo D, you are too much.  Thanks for making my morning!  LOL</p>
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