Comments on: News of the Day – 12/4/08 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/12/04/news-of-the-day-12408/ Development site for Bronx Banter Blog's upcoming look and feel Mon, 20 May 2013 16:23:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/12/04/news-of-the-day-12408/#comment-64840 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO Fri, 05 Dec 2008 01:17:05 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=5249#comment-64840 [7] hahaahahahahah! [1] Chyll, love that story...ever see the film "Strozek" by Werner Herzog? best auction scene in movie history... every morning i wake up and check the Banter and ESPN for a photo of CC in pinstripes..but it never appears...this is odd, where is CC???? [7] hahaahahahahah!

[1] Chyll, love that story…ever see the film “Strozek” by Werner Herzog? best auction scene in movie history…

every morning i wake up and check the Banter and ESPN for a photo of CC in pinstripes..but it never appears…this is odd, where is CC????

]]> By: Raf http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/12/04/news-of-the-day-12408/#comment-64839 Raf Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:43:14 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=5249#comment-64839 <b>On this date in 1992, free agent SS Spike Owen is signed to a 3-year contract.</b> I'm still trying to figure that one out... On this date in 1992, free agent SS Spike Owen is signed to a 3-year contract.

I’m still trying to figure that one out…

]]> By: OldYanksFan http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/12/04/news-of-the-day-12408/#comment-64838 OldYanksFan Thu, 04 Dec 2008 19:13:57 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=5249#comment-64838 some random thoughts: .... there are still rumors about a Cano/Kemp swap. I don't know if there would be other players involved. Kemp is 2 years younger and plays a more important defensive position. How good a CFer is kemp? From what Long says, I'm really looking foward to seeing him this year. They both have an OPS+ 109, although this is after a year of 86 for Cano. I personally am a 'bird in the hand' kind if guy. Opinions if that swap would be an upgrade? ... Cashman RARELY talks publicly about startegy. This talk about 2 or 3 pitchers is uncharacteristic. I wonder if they are going to try a JD (stealth) like deal with Tex. Good offer, limited time frame. Cashman knows we are stocked with pitching, have little defense, and are short of position players. With all the arms that might be up by 2011, why would you want to take a risk on AJ for FIVE years? CC I understand... but why the need for more? A Core of CC, Wang and Joba seems pretty good... especially with Phil still in the mix. ... I think Cashman is gambling a bit with Andy, but also with the odds. Andy almost retired LAST year. His motivation to play THIS year was to open the new stadium. He doesn't need money. Would he really choose LA over the Yanks? We offered $10m, so he could negotiate for $11m... maybe $12m, He ain't gonna get much more on the market. Would he leave the Yankees simply because he is angry/insulted that we don't think he's worth more then $12m (in this economy)? ... While I believe CC would rather play on the WC, I don't think he's a Yankee hater (like RJ was). For $10m-$15m less, IF he gets an offer, he might lose that amount of money. But not more. I say CC ends up in Pinstrips. <b>Cliff and Alex.</b> A VERY SIMPLY TASK! Please make the comment INPUT box a little larger (especially horizontally... there's room) and INCREASE the text size a notch. It should be the same size as the preview/comments task. HTML wise, this is literally a one minute task. some random thoughts:

…. there are still rumors about a Cano/Kemp swap. I don’t know if there would be other players involved. Kemp is 2 years younger and plays a more important defensive position.
How good a CFer is kemp?
From what Long says, I’m really looking foward to seeing him this year. They both have an OPS+ 109, although this is after a year of 86 for Cano. I personally am a ‘bird in the hand’ kind if guy.
Opinions if that swap would be an upgrade?

… Cashman RARELY talks publicly about startegy. This talk about 2 or 3 pitchers is uncharacteristic. I wonder if they are going to try a JD (stealth) like deal with Tex. Good offer, limited time frame. Cashman knows we are stocked with pitching, have little defense, and are short of position players. With all the arms that might be up by 2011, why would you want to take a risk on AJ for FIVE years? CC I understand… but why the need for more? A Core of CC, Wang and Joba seems pretty good… especially with Phil still in the mix.

… I think Cashman is gambling a bit with Andy, but also with the odds. Andy almost retired LAST year. His motivation to play THIS year was to open the new stadium. He doesn’t need money. Would he really choose LA over the Yanks? We offered $10m, so he could negotiate for $11m… maybe $12m, He ain’t gonna get much more on the market. Would he leave the Yankees simply because he is angry/insulted that we don’t think he’s worth more then $12m (in this economy)?

… While I believe CC would rather play on the WC, I don’t think he’s a Yankee hater (like RJ was). For $10m-$15m less, IF he gets an offer, he might lose that amount of money. But not more. I say CC ends up in Pinstrips.

Cliff and Alex.
A VERY SIMPLY TASK!
Please make the comment INPUT box a little larger (especially horizontally… there’s room) and INCREASE the text size a notch. It should be the same size as the preview/comments task. HTML wise, this is literally a one minute task.

]]> By: Shaun P. http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/12/04/news-of-the-day-12408/#comment-64837 Shaun P. Thu, 04 Dec 2008 18:26:13 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=5249#comment-64837 [4] Its also easy to say, as a counter to every argument, that the Yanks have plenty of money and who cares if their payroll is $230M? (Or whatever.) I'm loathe to trust teams when it comes to their finances, because we know they lie at every opportunity to try to keep player salaries down - but new Stadium or no, I think its reasonable to expect that the Yanks do have some limit on their payroll. [4] Its also easy to say, as a counter to every argument, that the Yanks have plenty of money and who cares if their payroll is $230M? (Or whatever.) I’m loathe to trust teams when it comes to their finances, because we know they lie at every opportunity to try to keep player salaries down – but new Stadium or no, I think its reasonable to expect that the Yanks do have some limit on their payroll.

]]> By: Chyll Will http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/12/04/news-of-the-day-12408/#comment-64836 Chyll Will Thu, 04 Dec 2008 18:08:49 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=5249#comment-64836 [3] And it's easy for people to say, "why don't you just sign these guys; Pettitte at $12 million and others at such-and-such", but what if the problem, as implied, is that those guys want more? Why in the world is that Cashman's fault? If Theo or Stick were in charge, would that be their fault as well? I'm not so much defending Cash as much as the principle that teams can sign a guy for whatever they are willing to pay, not what everyone else says they're supposed to pay him. [3] And it’s easy for people to say, “why don’t you just sign these guys; Pettitte at $12 million and others at such-and-such”, but what if the problem, as implied, is that those guys want more? Why in the world is that Cashman’s fault? If Theo or Stick were in charge, would that be their fault as well? I’m not so much defending Cash as much as the principle that teams can sign a guy for whatever they are willing to pay, not what everyone else says they’re supposed to pay him.

]]> By: Shaun P. http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/12/04/news-of-the-day-12408/#comment-64835 Shaun P. Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:34:31 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=5249#comment-64835 [2] Yeah, as Cliff pointed out, the Yanks basically have only $32M more to play around with IF they sign CC (or Tex) for ~$24M/year. Unless they want to increase payroll. Pettitte would definitely take arb, he'd get his $16M easily that way. Abreu probably would too, given that I've heard no rumors about him going anywhere. There's the $32M right there. [2] Yeah, as Cliff pointed out, the Yanks basically have only $32M more to play around with IF they sign CC (or Tex) for ~$24M/year. Unless they want to increase payroll. Pettitte would definitely take arb, he’d get his $16M easily that way. Abreu probably would too, given that I’ve heard no rumors about him going anywhere. There’s the $32M right there.

]]> By: Chyll Will http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/12/04/news-of-the-day-12408/#comment-64834 Chyll Will Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:16:06 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=5249#comment-64834 On the other hand, it's interesting that many people will criticize the Yankees as big bankers who throw tons of money at their problems and make it difficult for other teams to afford other players at market rate, but then many of those same people will scratch their heads when the Yanks decide to not do that at all. Cliff gave us the real numbers that Yanks are having come off the books this off season, so it shouldn't be a totally negative thing for them to put the breaks on spending when they're looking at tough times in the most expensive place in the country to operate. And it doesn't mean they're automatically punting if they can't or don't sign any free agents, it just means they have to find alternative methods to fill those spots that aren't as easy as just signing someone. Who knows, maybe the answer already is here, even if the likelihood isn't. At least we'll know if it does play out without any FA signings where our strengths and weaknesses are in the front office when it seems like all things are equal... is Cash as smart as we say (and hope) he is? On the other hand, it’s interesting that many people will criticize the Yankees as big bankers who throw tons of money at their problems and make it difficult for other teams to afford other players at market rate, but then many of those same people will scratch their heads when the Yanks decide to not do that at all. Cliff gave us the real numbers that Yanks are having come off the books this off season, so it shouldn’t be a totally negative thing for them to put the breaks on spending when they’re looking at tough times in the most expensive place in the country to operate.

And it doesn’t mean they’re automatically punting if they can’t or don’t sign any free agents, it just means they have to find alternative methods to fill those spots that aren’t as easy as just signing someone. Who knows, maybe the answer already is here, even if the likelihood isn’t. At least we’ll know if it does play out without any FA signings where our strengths and weaknesses are in the front office when it seems like all things are equal… is Cash as smart as we say (and hope) he is?

]]> By: Chyll Will http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/12/04/news-of-the-day-12408/#comment-64833 Chyll Will Thu, 04 Dec 2008 16:58:28 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=5249#comment-64833 This whole situation with not offering arbitration and particularly with what Jack Curry wrote reminds me of a story: Years ago I wanted a brass bed and one day my Mom, my buddy and I were at a plumbing store that had a back lot; in that black lot was a barn and in that barn, an auction was being held. Among the items being auctioned was a brass bed frame; header, footer and railings all shiny and glowing in my eyes. Mom grabbed an auction paddle and we sat in the audience, watching the items being sold and waiting for the brass bed to come up. Finally, the brass bed came up and the auctioneer went into his babbling routine. The opening offer dropped lower and lower. My friend and I were sitting on the edge of our seats, while Mom was leaning forward with her chin on her hand, a look of deep concentration on her face. "Wow, she's really good at this," my friend said, and I agreed, "Look at how focused she is, she's waiting for the right price." Soon someone made a bid and the competition was on. Paddles went up in the air and the bids went higher and higher. I looked over at Mom and her chin was resting in her hand, a look of deep concentration still on her face. I was getting nervous, but I thought, well she's waiting for all the bids and will top the last one. Suddenly, we heard, "Going once... going twice... SOLD!" My friend and I sat up in our seats, stunned. "Mom, what happened??" I sputtered. She sat up slowly, looked over with a sheepish grin and said, "I couldn't understand a word he was saying!" >;) This whole situation with not offering arbitration and particularly with what Jack Curry wrote reminds me of a story:

Years ago I wanted a brass bed and one day my Mom, my buddy and I were at a plumbing store that had a back lot; in that black lot was a barn and in that barn, an auction was being held. Among the items being auctioned was a brass bed frame; header, footer and railings all shiny and glowing in my eyes. Mom grabbed an auction paddle and we sat in the audience, watching the items being sold and waiting for the brass bed to come up.

Finally, the brass bed came up and the auctioneer went into his babbling routine. The opening offer dropped lower and lower. My friend and I were sitting on the edge of our seats, while Mom was leaning forward with her chin on her hand, a look of deep concentration on her face. “Wow, she’s really good at this,” my friend said, and I agreed, “Look at how focused she is, she’s waiting for the right price.” Soon someone made a bid and the competition was on. Paddles went up in the air and the bids went higher and higher. I looked over at Mom and her chin was resting in her hand, a look of deep concentration still on her face. I was getting nervous, but I thought, well she’s waiting for all the bids and will top the last one.

Suddenly, we heard, “Going once… going twice… SOLD!” My friend and I sat up in our seats, stunned. “Mom, what happened??” I sputtered.

She sat up slowly, looked over with a sheepish grin and said, “I couldn’t understand a word he was saying!”

>;)

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