Comments on: More is More http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/12/14/more-is-more/ Development site for Bronx Banter Blog's upcoming look and feel Fri, 10 Feb 2012 08:15:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: sonyahennystutu http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/12/14/more-is-more/#comment-65582 sonyahennystutu Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:39:03 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=5890#comment-65582 Prediction: Matsui (here, Seatlle, or anywhere) will have a massive bounce back year. He will stay healthy, and rake. 20 HRs, 100+ RBI, high OPS, AND his OPS with RISP will be outsized. Just a prediction. T-E-I-X TEX TEX TEX!!!!! Prediction: Matsui (here, Seatlle, or anywhere) will have a massive bounce back year. He will stay healthy, and rake. 20 HRs, 100+ RBI, high OPS, AND his OPS with RISP will be outsized. Just a prediction.

T-E-I-X TEX TEX TEX!!!!!

]]> By: Rich http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/12/14/more-is-more/#comment-65581 Rich Mon, 15 Dec 2008 07:07:48 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=5890#comment-65581 Dayn Perry on Texeira: http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8882430/Teixeira-or-CC?-This-one-is-easy-to-call "...And if his 2008 season is any guide, he's going to be one of the 15 most valuable players in the game over the next half decade." Tex! Dayn Perry on Texeira:

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8882430/Teixeira-or-CC?-This-one-is-easy-to-call

“…And if his 2008 season is any guide, he’s going to be one of the 15 most valuable players in the game over the next half decade.”

Tex!

]]> By: Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/12/14/more-is-more/#comment-65580 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO Mon, 15 Dec 2008 05:26:26 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=5890#comment-65580 [14] Ichiro is a bad MOFO..I think being stuck in Seattle with an awful team for the last few years has worn him down. The guy is good every year for 200 hits, speed and great D. [14] Ichiro is a bad MOFO..I think being stuck in Seattle with an awful team for the last few years has worn him down. The guy is good every year for 200 hits, speed and great D.

]]> By: The Hawk http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/12/14/more-is-more/#comment-65579 The Hawk Mon, 15 Dec 2008 04:16:47 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=5890#comment-65579 [12] I'm a huge Matsui fan - possibly because he was the only guy signed to the team in the '00s that had true Yankee character - but I'd be amenable to a trade. The Mariners seem more palatable because of the Japanese angle, but I still doubt he'd go for it. I mean, there's more basis there than anywhere else perhaps, but it's still not much. Yankee pride vs Japanese pride or Yankee pride vs marketing opportunity pride? Anyway I understand that Ichiro is a weirdo/jerk. [12] I’m a huge Matsui fan – possibly because he was the only guy signed to the team in the ’00s that had true Yankee character – but I’d be amenable to a trade. The Mariners seem more palatable because of the Japanese angle, but I still doubt he’d go for it. I mean, there’s more basis there than anywhere else perhaps, but it’s still not much. Yankee pride vs Japanese pride or Yankee pride vs marketing opportunity pride?

Anyway I understand that Ichiro is a weirdo/jerk.

]]> By: Raf http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/12/14/more-is-more/#comment-65578 Raf Mon, 15 Dec 2008 04:05:57 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=5890#comment-65578 Here's an interesting take on Dunn http://tinyurl.com/68ottv "Since he’s not as good a hitter as Manny but has similar struggles in the field, he ranks as a league average player (+2 wins compared to replacement level). You can bet he’ll get paid more than the $10 million or so he’s worth, though." As for Matsui, I don't think the M's will take him; they're in a different mode, and since Bavasi isn't there, it is unlikely that they'd trade for him. Here’s an interesting take on Dunn
http://tinyurl.com/68ottv

“Since he’s not as good a hitter as Manny but has similar struggles in the field, he ranks as a league average player (+2 wins compared to replacement level). You can bet he’ll get paid more than the $10 million or so he’s worth, though.”

As for Matsui, I don’t think the M’s will take him; they’re in a different mode, and since Bavasi isn’t there, it is unlikely that they’d trade for him.

]]> By: Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/12/14/more-is-more/#comment-65577 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO Mon, 15 Dec 2008 02:26:33 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=5890#comment-65577 [12] Unquestionably, the media here would spontaneously combust if Matsui headed to the Mariners..contract and marketing-wise it makes sense, but I would imagine some tension between the two star-Japanese players..from what I hear they get on well enough but there may be lingering tension due to Matsui not joining the WBC 3 years ago...besides, I get enough awful M's games on tv here already, don't want them on every day! [11] mysterious indeed why Dunn is still out there..can he play 1B well enough to let Matsui/Damon handle DH duties? [12] Unquestionably, the media here would spontaneously combust if Matsui headed to the Mariners..contract and marketing-wise it makes sense, but I would imagine some tension between the two star-Japanese players..from what I hear they get on well enough but there may be lingering tension due to Matsui not joining the WBC 3 years ago…besides, I get enough awful M’s games on tv here already, don’t want them on every day!

[11] mysterious indeed why Dunn is still out there..can he play 1B well enough to let Matsui/Damon handle DH duties?

]]> By: williamnyy23 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/12/14/more-is-more/#comment-65576 williamnyy23 Mon, 15 Dec 2008 02:10:09 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=5890#comment-65576 Here's a random thought...the Mariners just lost a very steady left handed bat in Ibanez and might be looking to replace that hole. I wonder if the Yankees could entice them in Matsui? I really like Matsui, and he can be valuable when healthy, but it might make sense for the Yankees to ditch the salary. Then, you could commit the DH slot to a Manny/Dunn type, or, sign Tex and use RF, LF and DH for Swisher, Damon and Nady. From the Mariners standpoint, they get someone who could replace Ibanez' bat (both gloves are probably equally bad), but with only a one-year commitment. They also get the added benefit of another Japanese player, which would be attractive in their market. I am sure the combo of Matsui and Ichiro in the same outfield would be a tremendous marketing coup. The only question is what would the Yankees get back, or, whether salary relief would be enough. Here’s a random thought…the Mariners just lost a very steady left handed bat in Ibanez and might be looking to replace that hole. I wonder if the Yankees could entice them in Matsui? I really like Matsui, and he can be valuable when healthy, but it might make sense for the Yankees to ditch the salary. Then, you could commit the DH slot to a Manny/Dunn type, or, sign Tex and use RF, LF and DH for Swisher, Damon and Nady.

From the Mariners standpoint, they get someone who could replace Ibanez’ bat (both gloves are probably equally bad), but with only a one-year commitment. They also get the added benefit of another Japanese player, which would be attractive in their market. I am sure the combo of Matsui and Ichiro in the same outfield would be a tremendous marketing coup.

The only question is what would the Yankees get back, or, whether salary relief would be enough.

]]> By: williamnyy23 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/12/14/more-is-more/#comment-65575 williamnyy23 Mon, 15 Dec 2008 02:03:10 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=5890#comment-65575 [10] I am going to go out on a limb and predict that no matter where he plays, Dunn will hit exactly 40 HRs, just as he did in 2005, 2006, 2007 and 2008. If anything, Dunn has been amazingly consistent. Quite frankly, I am surpised that interest in Dunn as been so lukewarm. I can see preferring Manny or Tex, but absent those two, he is the best hitter available and would be an asset to any team, especially one that could hide his glove at DH. [10] I am going to go out on a limb and predict that no matter where he plays, Dunn will hit exactly 40 HRs, just as he did in 2005, 2006, 2007 and 2008. If anything, Dunn has been amazingly consistent.

Quite frankly, I am surpised that interest in Dunn as been so lukewarm. I can see preferring Manny or Tex, but absent those two, he is the best hitter available and would be an asset to any team, especially one that could hide his glove at DH.

]]> By: Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/12/14/more-is-more/#comment-65574 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO Mon, 15 Dec 2008 01:57:21 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=5890#comment-65574 [8] Dunn is cheaper, younger and boiled-potato bland..with the short-porch he's a LOCK for 40-45hrs..Manny obviously one of the greatest of all time, but at that price?? [8] Dunn is cheaper, younger and boiled-potato bland..with the short-porch he’s a LOCK for 40-45hrs..Manny obviously one of the greatest of all time, but at that price??

]]> By: Evil Empire http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/12/14/more-is-more/#comment-65573 Evil Empire Mon, 15 Dec 2008 01:50:32 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=5890#comment-65573 Tex would be AMAZING in Pinstripes. Tex would be AMAZING in Pinstripes.

]]> By: williamnyy23 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/12/14/more-is-more/#comment-65572 williamnyy23 Mon, 15 Dec 2008 01:47:04 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=5890#comment-65572 [5] Dunn is as bad, if not worse than Manny in the outfield. Because I'd imagine that both would see most if their ABs as a DH, I don't think defense factors into the equation. Manny is still a much better hitter than Dunn, so the best argument for the latter is youth, clubhouse impact and the salary commitment. The thing I like about Manny is that along with his power, you don't get a ton of Ks. If you added, Cameron and Dunn, you'd have two guys who'd be a lock for 160 strikeouts along with Swisher, who is a 140 K guy. It's not a big concern, but if all else is equal, I'd rather have more modest K totals, if only because it allows you to take advantage of teams with poor defenses. [5] Dunn is as bad, if not worse than Manny in the outfield. Because I’d imagine that both would see most if their ABs as a DH, I don’t think defense factors into the equation. Manny is still a much better hitter than Dunn, so the best argument for the latter is youth, clubhouse impact and the salary commitment.

The thing I like about Manny is that along with his power, you don’t get a ton of Ks. If you added, Cameron and Dunn, you’d have two guys who’d be a lock for 160 strikeouts along with Swisher, who is a 140 K guy. It’s not a big concern, but if all else is equal, I’d rather have more modest K totals, if only because it allows you to take advantage of teams with poor defenses.

]]> By: Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/12/14/more-is-more/#comment-65571 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO Mon, 15 Dec 2008 01:37:13 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=5890#comment-65571 [6] I'd be up fpr my local Yakult Swallows giving him a one-year 30million deal..he'd hit .420 here with 75 HRs.. [6] I’d be up fpr my local Yakult Swallows giving him a one-year 30million deal..he’d hit .420 here with 75 HRs..

]]> By: Just Fair http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/12/14/more-is-more/#comment-65570 Just Fair Mon, 15 Dec 2008 01:33:09 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=5890#comment-65570 The AJ signing is to Cilff as the Manny signing would be to me. Bollocks. Just retire and go away. The AJ signing is to Cilff as the Manny signing would be to me. Bollocks. Just retire and go away.

]]> By: Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/12/14/more-is-more/#comment-65569 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO Mon, 15 Dec 2008 01:11:08 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=5890#comment-65569 Dunn and A-Rod are a lock for 80-taters (at least, maybe more if A-Rod aligns his chakras)..say NO to Manny please, we have enough no-field/all-hit types Dunn and A-Rod are a lock for 80-taters (at least, maybe more if A-Rod aligns his chakras)..say NO to Manny please, we have enough no-field/all-hit types

]]> By: mission27 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/12/14/more-is-more/#comment-65568 mission27 Sun, 14 Dec 2008 23:40:42 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=5890#comment-65568 If Manny would accept a 2 or 3 year deal I would probably rather have him than Teixeira. Manny was second in wRC and wRAA as well as third in wOBA. But he's pretty old so IDK if I would want to give him a 4 or 5 year contract. If Manny would accept a 2 or 3 year deal I would probably rather have him than Teixeira. Manny was second in wRC and wRAA as well as third in wOBA. But he’s pretty old so IDK if I would want to give him a 4 or 5 year contract.

]]> By: The Hawk http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/12/14/more-is-more/#comment-65567 The Hawk Sun, 14 Dec 2008 22:25:30 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=5890#comment-65567 Manny for four years would be excessive. I think he'll be trouble sooner or later. If they could do a two year deal, I'd be fine with it. Maybe a third year option ... Texeira would be great but I think I would start to feel like that fat cat pictured by that point. Manny for four years would be excessive. I think he’ll be trouble sooner or later. If they could do a two year deal, I’d be fine with it. Maybe a third year option … Texeira would be great but I think I would start to feel like that fat cat pictured by that point.

]]> By: Cliff Corcoran http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/12/14/more-is-more/#comment-65566 Cliff Corcoran Sun, 14 Dec 2008 21:13:26 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=5890#comment-65566 I'd take Dunn over Manny, but pleasepleaseplease Tex! I’d take Dunn over Manny, but pleasepleaseplease Tex!

]]> By: BrianLevy2020 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/12/14/more-is-more/#comment-65565 BrianLevy2020 Sun, 14 Dec 2008 20:33:07 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=5890#comment-65565 Adam Dunn! Adam Dunn!

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