Comments on: That’s Rich http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/12/28/thats-rich/ Development site for Bronx Banter Blog's upcoming look and feel Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:54:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: thedmondsjr http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/12/28/thats-rich/#comment-66439 thedmondsjr Fri, 02 Jan 2009 14:37:40 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=6483#comment-66439 Pavano is the answer or a 5th starter. Andy's old and Hughes is young. Pavano's just right. Pavano is the answer or a 5th starter. Andy’s old and Hughes is young. Pavano’s just right.

]]> By: Joel http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/12/28/thats-rich/#comment-66438 Joel Mon, 29 Dec 2008 15:09:29 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=6483#comment-66438 [35] All I'm saying is that the pitchers are going to get (mostly) their money. The Braves were right there with the Yanks on Burnett. The Mets are reportedly in serious discussions with Lowe. Baseball is making money hand over fist. The money is there. [35] All I’m saying is that the pitchers are going to get (mostly) their money. The Braves were right there with the Yanks on Burnett. The Mets are reportedly in serious discussions with Lowe.

Baseball is making money hand over fist. The money is there.

]]> By: Bum Rush http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/12/28/thats-rich/#comment-66437 Bum Rush Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:41:39 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=6483#comment-66437 @36 Sure, Sanchez might be a nice return for Matsui. But Nady/Swisher would seem to require more than that. Besides, Sanchez is a <i>project</i>. I can't believe how much the Giants rushed him. After 125 IP in the Sally league (A), they basically allowed him to pitch in the majors. So, in his career, he has 3 IP in A+, 31 IP at AA, and 44 IP at AAA. That's just malpractice, especially for a guy with so much talent. If the Yanks were to get him, I'd seriously hope they'd forget about his age and put him in Trenton for half a year and promote him to Scranton only when he had shown strides in learning how pitch. A full season, or two, in the upper minors could still make him into a legit pitcher rather than a crappy thrower. @36

Sure, Sanchez might be a nice return for Matsui. But Nady/Swisher would seem to require more than that.

Besides, Sanchez is a project. I can’t believe how much the Giants rushed him. After 125 IP in the Sally league (A), they basically allowed him to pitch in the majors. So, in his career, he has 3 IP in A+, 31 IP at AA, and 44 IP at AAA. That’s just malpractice, especially for a guy with so much talent. If the Yanks were to get him, I’d seriously hope they’d forget about his age and put him in Trenton for half a year and promote him to Scranton only when he had shown strides in learning how pitch. A full season, or two, in the upper minors could still make him into a legit pitcher rather than a crappy thrower.

]]> By: Ricardo.jp http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/12/28/thats-rich/#comment-66436 Ricardo.jp Mon, 29 Dec 2008 07:31:38 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=6483#comment-66436 How about trading packaging one of the outfielders for SF's Sanchez? There's been some chatter on other boards about this topic. How about trading packaging one of the outfielders for SF’s Sanchez? There’s been some chatter on other boards about this topic.

]]> By: joejoejoe http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/12/28/thats-rich/#comment-66435 joejoejoe Mon, 29 Dec 2008 05:48:55 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=6483#comment-66435 [34] Are you Scott Boras's brother or something? The Yankees are bidding against themselves in an economy in recession. And l cited Greg Maddux as a comparison to Pettitte and not Sandy Koufax because Pettitte and Maddux are, you know, peers. As recently as 2006 Maddux had a better season than Pettitte --- in the same league against the same competition. [34] Are you Scott Boras’s brother or something? The Yankees are bidding against themselves in an economy in recession. And l cited Greg Maddux as a comparison to Pettitte and not Sandy Koufax because Pettitte and Maddux are, you know, peers. As recently as 2006 Maddux had a better season than Pettitte — in the same league against the same competition.

]]> By: Joel http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/12/28/thats-rich/#comment-66434 Joel Mon, 29 Dec 2008 03:16:56 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=6483#comment-66434 [30] What you call "overpriced" is the current market price for major league pitching. And when did Lowe's price suddenly drop almost $30 million? Oliver Perez is going to get more than 3/39. [30] What you call “overpriced” is the current market price for major league pitching.

And when did Lowe’s price suddenly drop almost $30 million? Oliver Perez is going to get more than 3/39.

]]> By: Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/12/28/thats-rich/#comment-66433 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO Mon, 29 Dec 2008 03:11:29 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=6483#comment-66433 [32] Keep that rally going! Don't clog the bases! Gritty McMvpBall! I do miss FJM over the morning coffee.. [32] Keep that rally going! Don’t clog the bases! Gritty McMvpBall! I do miss FJM over the morning coffee..

]]> By: Chyll Will http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/12/28/thats-rich/#comment-66432 Chyll Will Mon, 29 Dec 2008 03:09:19 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=6483#comment-66432 [31] I'd be happy with forty taters for A-Rod if he drove in many more runs; a two-run double is better than a solo homer in my eyes (That's for you, Weep!) [31] I’d be happy with forty taters for A-Rod if he drove in many more runs; a two-run double is better than a solo homer in my eyes (That’s for you, Weep!)

]]> By: Rich http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/12/28/thats-rich/#comment-66431 Rich Mon, 29 Dec 2008 03:04:18 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=6483#comment-66431 The Sox are going to sign Penny per Ham, so there goes my speculation: http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/12/28/red-sox-pick-up-a-penny/ The Sox are going to sign Penny per Ham, so there goes my speculation:

http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/12/28/red-sox-pick-up-a-penny/

]]> By: Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/12/28/thats-rich/#comment-66430 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO Mon, 29 Dec 2008 02:53:38 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=6483#comment-66430 [29] yeah, I think that Olney's blog is usually so good, that's why I was surprised by the attack on Manny like that. I actually LIKE Simmons because of the homerism (and his NBA columns), fan enjoyable read. Generation thing perhaps, but I find people like Rick Reilly to be unreadable...anyways, if Andy is the last piece of the puzzle for this offseason I think we can all live with that. CC & Tex are going to be a lot of fun to watch, and I can see A-Rod going off for 55taters this year.. [29] yeah, I think that Olney’s blog is usually so good, that’s why I was surprised by the attack on Manny like that. I actually LIKE Simmons because of the homerism (and his NBA columns), fan enjoyable read. Generation thing perhaps, but I find people like Rick Reilly to be unreadable…anyways, if Andy is the last piece of the puzzle for this offseason I think we can all live with that. CC & Tex are going to be a lot of fun to watch, and I can see A-Rod going off for 55taters this year..

]]> By: OldYanksFan http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/12/28/thats-rich/#comment-66429 OldYanksFan Mon, 29 Dec 2008 02:46:00 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=6483#comment-66429 [17] Lowe is probably looking at the neighborhood of 3/$39 at best. And looking at other overpriced players is not the way to determine what player X is worth. My guess is if Andy negotiated with Cashman, he would end up with $11-12m. [17] Lowe is probably looking at the neighborhood of 3/$39 at best. And looking at other overpriced players is not the way to determine what player X is worth. My guess is if Andy negotiated with Cashman, he would end up with $11-12m.

]]> By: Chyll Will http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/12/28/thats-rich/#comment-66428 Chyll Will Mon, 29 Dec 2008 02:41:56 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=6483#comment-66428 [22] Jazz, I see Olney as one of several jockeying for position as Alpha Dog on E@#$ once Berman retires. I try to strain their commentary and hold onto only the facts. One fact: Olney was dead wrong about who was going to end up with Tex in the end, and now he has to pick on someone else to compensate. Well, at least he didn't take as hard a hit as Bill Simmons did, but again, it's jockeying all the same. [22] Jazz, I see Olney as one of several jockeying for position as Alpha Dog on E@#$ once Berman retires. I try to strain their commentary and hold onto only the facts. One fact: Olney was dead wrong about who was going to end up with Tex in the end, and now he has to pick on someone else to compensate. Well, at least he didn’t take as hard a hit as Bill Simmons did, but again, it’s jockeying all the same.

]]> By: OldYanksFan http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/12/28/thats-rich/#comment-66427 OldYanksFan Mon, 29 Dec 2008 02:41:07 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=6483#comment-66427 [5] HGH is not (NOT) a PED. Aside from this being common knowledge, it was also stated clearly in the Mitchell report itself. The question is do the Yanks have another $10-12m to spend, and if so, could they get someone more 'productive' then Andy? If they trade Matsui and pay $10m of his salary, what might they get in return? Ceratinly we don't NEED him, but between injuries and possible kid-flops, it certainly can't hurt. It has become a sad story. Andy is supposed to be a humble guy, but he ain't acting that way. You would think our increased chances of getting a ring would motivate him. He has said he doesn't want to pitch for anyone else. Is his holding (us) up all an ego thing? [5] HGH is not (NOT) a PED. Aside from this being common knowledge, it was also stated clearly in the Mitchell report itself.

The question is do the Yanks have another $10-12m to spend, and if so, could they get someone more ‘productive’ then Andy? If they trade Matsui and pay $10m of his salary, what might they get in return?

Ceratinly we don’t NEED him, but between injuries and possible kid-flops, it certainly can’t hurt. It has become a sad story. Andy is supposed to be a humble guy, but he ain’t acting that way. You would think our increased chances of getting a ring would motivate him. He has said he doesn’t want to pitch for anyone else. Is his holding (us) up all an ego thing?

]]> By: Joel http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/12/28/thats-rich/#comment-66426 Joel Mon, 29 Dec 2008 02:31:49 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=6483#comment-66426 [17] Sandy Koufax never made $16 million in his career either. Big deal. A.J. Burnett is getting $16.5 million--for 5 years no less. Derek Lowe will probably get $16 million for four years. How does Pettitte for just one year compare to those guys? I 'd say he's a bargain. And any of the youngsters we would be paying peanuts have yet to show they can consistently pitch at the ML level let alone stay healthy enough to make 33 starts and throw for for 200+ innings. [17] Sandy Koufax never made $16 million in his career either. Big deal. A.J. Burnett is getting $16.5 million–for 5 years no less. Derek Lowe will probably get $16 million for four years. How does Pettitte for just one year compare to those guys? I ‘d say he’s a bargain.

And any of the youngsters we would be paying peanuts have yet to show they can consistently pitch at the ML level let alone stay healthy enough to make 33 starts and throw for for 200+ innings.

]]> By: thelarmis http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/12/28/thats-rich/#comment-66425 thelarmis Mon, 29 Dec 2008 02:29:19 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=6483#comment-66425 shit sox signed both josh bard and brad penny to 1-yr deals. bard, has a non-guaranteed major league contract for $1.6mil and, as of now, is viewed as a backup backstop. penny, gets a $5mil base w/ $3mil in incentives, if he surpasses 160 innings. masterson, will remain in the 'pen as the setup man for papelbitch. shit sox signed both josh bard and brad penny to 1-yr deals. bard, has a non-guaranteed major league contract for $1.6mil and, as of now, is viewed as a backup backstop. penny, gets a $5mil base w/ $3mil in incentives, if he surpasses 160 innings. masterson, will remain in the ‘pen as the setup man for papelbitch.

]]> By: Chyll Will http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/12/28/thats-rich/#comment-66424 Chyll Will Mon, 29 Dec 2008 02:06:30 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=6483#comment-66424 [24] There sure are a few that give off an air of privilege in their writing or broadcasting, but that aside note taken. Still, if that's the worst we can say about Chad, I hope he and Ricky Williams go to the AFC finals... then lose, because I'm far from a Dolphins fan >;) [24] There sure are a few that give off an air of privilege in their writing or broadcasting, but that aside note taken. Still, if that’s the worst we can say about Chad, I hope he and Ricky Williams go to the AFC finals… then lose, because I’m far from a Dolphins fan >;)

]]> By: Diane Firstman http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/12/28/thats-rich/#comment-66423 Diane Firstman Mon, 29 Dec 2008 01:52:07 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=6483#comment-66423 [21] I'm happy for Chad .... with one notable exception he's been a model of class and composure ... that exception being the press conference a few years ago in which he chided the press and said it was a "privilege" to do their job [21]

I’m happy for Chad …. with one notable exception he’s been a model of class and composure …

that exception being the press conference a few years ago in which he chided the press and said it was a “privilege” to do their job

]]> By: Chyll Will http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/12/28/thats-rich/#comment-66422 Chyll Will Mon, 29 Dec 2008 01:48:06 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=6483#comment-66422 [20] Dunno, his agent might tell him to just go back to Milwaukee for a year rather than take a lowball from anyone in the east so he can restate his value with a solid, perhaps injury-free year. Then again, the Mets might try to steal back some limelight by signing him for 2-3 years. Anything's possible... [19] pass... [20] Dunno, his agent might tell him to just go back to Milwaukee for a year rather than take a lowball from anyone in the east so he can restate his value with a solid, perhaps injury-free year. Then again, the Mets might try to steal back some limelight by signing him for 2-3 years. Anything’s possible…

[19] pass…

]]> By: Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/12/28/thats-rich/#comment-66421 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO Mon, 29 Dec 2008 01:41:25 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=6483#comment-66421 Sayonara, Andy. Wow, Buster Olney with a SERIOUS hatchet job on Manny Ramirez today...hard to believe the hatred towards this guy in the media. One of the 3 best RH hitters of this era..guess times change and people want their stars to be saints? Lucky Mantle isn't around today, he certainly wouldn't be a "hero" like he was in the 50s... Sayonara, Andy.

Wow, Buster Olney with a SERIOUS hatchet job on Manny Ramirez today…hard to believe the hatred towards this guy in the media. One of the 3 best RH hitters of this era..guess times change and people want their stars to be saints? Lucky Mantle isn’t around today, he certainly wouldn’t be a “hero” like he was in the 50s…

]]> By: Chyll Will http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2008/12/28/thats-rich/#comment-66420 Chyll Will Mon, 29 Dec 2008 01:40:17 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=6483#comment-66420 [18] Well, I do feel good for Chad, he got what he deserved, too. And, (heh-heh), Patriyutz are <i><b> out!</i></b> >;) [18] Well, I do feel good for Chad, he got what he deserved, too. And, (heh-heh), Patriyutz are out! >;)

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