Comments on: News of the Day – 1/16/09 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/01/16/news-of-the-day-11609/ Baseball Blog by Alex Belth about the Yankees Sat, 31 Jul 2010 13:47:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Bruce Markusen http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/01/16/news-of-the-day-11609/comment-page-1/#comment-85057 Bruce Markusen Fri, 16 Jan 2009 20:48:04 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=7084#comment-85057 When Winfield got hurt in the spring of 1989, they didn't have Hall or Barfield yet. They acquired Hall in spring training as a direct response to losing Winfield. They also made springtime trades for both Balboni and Tom Brookens, again after it was announced that Winfield would miss the season. And then in mid-season, came the deal of Al Leiter to the Blue Jays for Barfield, who actually took Winfield's place in right field. When Winfield got hurt in the spring of 1989, they didn’t have Hall or Barfield yet. They acquired Hall in spring training as a direct response to losing Winfield. They also made springtime trades for both Balboni and Tom Brookens, again after it was announced that Winfield would miss the season. And then in mid-season, came the deal of Al Leiter to the Blue Jays for Barfield, who actually took Winfield’s place in right field.

]]> By: zack http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/01/16/news-of-the-day-11609/comment-page-1/#comment-85055 zack Fri, 16 Jan 2009 19:22:59 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=7084#comment-85055 Of course Harper's argument is completely illogical. Pelfrey is, of course, 2 full years older than Hughes and it took him 2 similarly bad call ups the years before, in the NL mind you, to finally "blossom," albeit with not so great splits. But nevermind that. Its much easier to just say, "hey, here's a young touted pitcher, and here's another, they should be compared against each other!" The Santana trade has nothing to do with Pelfrey, and it doesn't really have anything to do with Hughes last season. The issue was never if Hughes would blossom immediately. Oh well, old hat, I know... Of course Harper’s argument is completely illogical. Pelfrey is, of course, 2 full years older than Hughes and it took him 2 similarly bad call ups the years before, in the NL mind you, to finally “blossom,” albeit with not so great splits. But nevermind that. Its much easier to just say, “hey, here’s a young touted pitcher, and here’s another, they should be compared against each other!”

The Santana trade has nothing to do with Pelfrey, and it doesn’t really have anything to do with Hughes last season. The issue was never if Hughes would blossom immediately.

Oh well, old hat, I know…

]]> By: Raf http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/01/16/news-of-the-day-11609/comment-page-1/#comment-85054 Raf Fri, 16 Jan 2009 18:14:44 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=7084#comment-85054 <b>McDowell will forever be the guy who gave up Edgar Martinez’s series-winning double</b> Watching that game (I taped it), I noticed every pitch McDowell threw in that inning was up in the zone. I think it was also his game to lose, as I don't remember anyone being up in the pen. McDowell will forever be the guy who gave up Edgar Martinez’s series-winning double

Watching that game (I taped it), I noticed every pitch McDowell threw in that inning was up in the zone. I think it was also his game to lose, as I don’t remember anyone being up in the pen.

]]> By: Raf http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/01/16/news-of-the-day-11609/comment-page-1/#comment-85053 Raf Fri, 16 Jan 2009 18:09:37 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=7084#comment-85053 <b>and who else did they have in ‘89 and ‘90 anyway?</b> IIRC, When Winnie went down, they had Phelps, Hall, Pags, Slaught, Barfield & Balboni among others. 1990 the wheels completely fell off; Barfield, Maas, Winfield & Balboni were the only power threats on that squad, IIRC. and who else did they have in ‘89 and ‘90 anyway?

IIRC, When Winnie went down, they had Phelps, Hall, Pags, Slaught, Barfield & Balboni among others.

1990 the wheels completely fell off; Barfield, Maas, Winfield & Balboni were the only power threats on that squad, IIRC.

]]> By: OldYanksFan http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/01/16/news-of-the-day-11609/comment-page-1/#comment-85052 OldYanksFan Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:50:33 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=7084#comment-85052 Frankly, early on, I wanted to get Tex, and stay pat...just getting some good deals in a depressed market. That stategy was financially responsible but would NOT give us a good shot at the PS THIS year. But Cashman went all out and spent some big money. Now that that is done, we almost HAVE to make the WS (if not win it) or we will have egg on our faces. That being the case, I say GET ANDY! At this point, he fills the most important hole that needs to be filled. If we have some pitching injuries, or Joba and/or Phil disappoint, it will be a fight to get into the PS. So my feeling is we are in a all-or-nothing situation, and Pettitte could be the difference between being in the WS or not. Obviously we might make it without him, but at this point, he is a good insurance policy. If need be, they could dump Nady and just platoon Melky and Brett. While they are a downgrade from Nady.... Pettitte + Melky/Brett >>>> Nady. Frankly, early on, I wanted to get Tex, and stay pat…just getting some good deals in a depressed market. That stategy was financially responsible but would NOT give us a good shot at the PS THIS year.

But Cashman went all out and spent some big money. Now that that is done, we almost HAVE to make the WS (if not win it) or we will have egg on our faces. That being the case, I say GET ANDY! At this point, he fills the most important hole that needs to be filled. If we have some pitching injuries, or Joba and/or Phil disappoint, it will be a fight to get into the PS.

So my feeling is we are in a all-or-nothing situation, and Pettitte could be the difference between being in the WS or not. Obviously we might make it without him, but at this point, he is a good insurance policy.

If need be, they could dump Nady and just platoon Melky and Brett. While they are a downgrade from Nady….
Pettitte + Melky/Brett >>>> Nady.

]]> By: Mattpat11 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/01/16/news-of-the-day-11609/comment-page-1/#comment-85051 Mattpat11 Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:31:43 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=7084#comment-85051 I have some recollection of being at the game with Black Jack flipped the crowd off. I don't know if that's a true memory or different things running together or what. I have some recollection of being at the game with Black Jack flipped the crowd off. I don’t know if that’s a true memory or different things running together or what.

]]> By: Cliff Corcoran http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/01/16/news-of-the-day-11609/comment-page-1/#comment-85050 Cliff Corcoran Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:04:59 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=7084#comment-85050 Actually Balboni was a lefty-killer during his second Yankee stint (slugging ~.500 against lefties), and who else did they have in '89 and '90 anyway? McDowell will forever be the guy who gave up Edgar Martinez's series-winning double and flipped off the Yankee Stadium crowd. I hated him even before either of those events, dating back to his time with the White Sox. Actually Balboni was a lefty-killer during his second Yankee stint (slugging ~.500 against lefties), and who else did they have in ’89 and ’90 anyway?

McDowell will forever be the guy who gave up Edgar Martinez’s series-winning double and flipped off the Yankee Stadium crowd. I hated him even before either of those events, dating back to his time with the White Sox.

]]> By: Raf http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/01/16/news-of-the-day-11609/comment-page-1/#comment-85049 Raf Fri, 16 Jan 2009 15:47:55 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=7084#comment-85049 I'd say there's a very good chance Melky gets a pay cut. Bruney may as well. <b>Villone has had a 14-year career (over 1,100 IP) despite a 4.75 ERA.</b> It's great to be a lefty! <b>McDowell went 15-10 with a 3.93 ERA in his one season with the Yanks (1995)</b> The company line was that they couldn't afford him after signing Cone & Rogers. I thought he would've stuck around longer than a year, but the organization seemed to make a good call on him as he posted 4 more subpar years before retiring. <b>His (Balboni's) Yankee totals: .214/.286/.415 with 41 HRs and 116 RBIs and 219 Ks in 766 ABs.</b> Amazing he got as much playing time as he did. It's not like he had outstanding platoon splits either. IIRC, the organization was really high on him. I’d say there’s a very good chance Melky gets a pay cut. Bruney may as well.

Villone has had a 14-year career (over 1,100 IP) despite a 4.75 ERA.

It’s great to be a lefty!

McDowell went 15-10 with a 3.93 ERA in his one season with the Yanks (1995)

The company line was that they couldn’t afford him after signing Cone & Rogers. I thought he would’ve stuck around longer than a year, but the organization seemed to make a good call on him as he posted 4 more subpar years before retiring.

His (Balboni’s) Yankee totals: .214/.286/.415 with 41 HRs and 116 RBIs and 219 Ks in 766 ABs.

Amazing he got as much playing time as he did. It’s not like he had outstanding platoon splits either. IIRC, the organization was really high on him.

]]> By: standuptriple http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/01/16/news-of-the-day-11609/comment-page-1/#comment-85048 standuptriple Fri, 16 Jan 2009 15:33:36 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=7084#comment-85048 What are the chances the arbitrator gives Melky a pay cut? What are the chances the arbitrator gives Melky a pay cut?

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