For one thing, try to get at how much Torre affected the overall narrative. Does Joe buy into all the shifting tectonics? Or maybe does he think ‘a couple bounces the other way and…’?

Also, what kind of thing WOULD Torre have been against including? He says he didn’t burn any bridges or violate any clubhouse sanctity, so what about the times Verducci overreached? What would Verducci have liked Torre to be more open about?

[14] I love baseball so, SO much..but seriously, these generally are not guys who provide rational, intellectual debate or even much introspection..Yogi excluded obviously!

As for Q’s, what I would ask is: the book seems to suggest that Torre, as the manager, had his finger on the pulse of the clubhouse, in good times and bad, so how could he possibly have no knowledge of any steroid-related issues. If Cone and the some other players joked about McNamee guys, how could Joe not know? Is it realistic that he knew about “A-fraud”, but not “McNamee guys”?

The answer to that question, I suspect, is Torre was probably protecting some players, especially with one of his guys (Pettitte) being involved. So, my next question would be how selective was he in opening up the clubhouse…and does he think it is fair to only dish on the guys he didn’t like if his aim was to provide a “piece of history”.

How many times in an interview with Brian Cashman could you hear “I decided to disregard his injury and performance history because he had a REALLY good previous year!” before the interview got boring and repetitive?

MLB managers have very little impact on a team’s success or failure, except for bullpen management and lineup construction. It’s not like the NFL or the NBA where a new head coach can take the same personnel that lost under the former coach and transform them into a winning team by installing a system that better suits their talents, and by inducing the players to play more cohesively.

Yet somehow Torre, with the aid of his acolytes in the media, has been able to advance the false meme that he is as good a manager as Parcells or Riley are head coaches in their respective sports. Riley and Parcells didn’t have losing records at numerous venues in their coaching career, unlike Torre who had a career sub .500 record before being handed the keys to a team that was ready to win under Buck Showalter.

Instead of being eternally grateful to George and the Yankee organization for giving him that golden opportunity to transform his managerial career and become a multi-millioniare, Torre has betrayed their trust. In the process, he has permanently and indelibly stained his public persona, while revealing his flawed private character.

How about GMs? Should we have someone interview Cashman and ask him to list all his mistakes? Theo maybe?

This to me is just vandictive stuff. Seeing if we can get Torre to fall on his own sword. I don’t expect Torre or Cashman to make the right decision 100% of the time. Not 80% of the time. Is 70% of the time good? If so, do we need to list the other 30%?

And are you sure that you, or William, or anyone else here, with no experience or knowledge of what’s really going on on the field… are you sure that the ‘Torre mistakes’ you see are truly mistakes? If Weaver had pitched shut out ball, would he still have been a mistake?

Mind you, my feeling is in terms of on-field and BP moves, I question many of Torre’s moves. Of course, as I watch other games and the PS, I usually have questions on all the managers moves. And the truth is, for all the blogs and baseball cards I’ve read, I don’t know shit about what managing a team really entails.

Since the outcome of a decision is 99% dependant on the performance of the player, just where do we draw the line on ‘mistakes’?

Torre was once asked on camera about his ‘biggest mistakes’. He mentioned the ‘midges game’ and 2 or 3 other incidents. I don’t believe he thinks he is infallible, although I’m sure he thinks more of himself then (we) do. Of course, my guess is everyone here feels the same way… that we think more of ourselves, and feel we are right more often then others. Maybe this is even human nature.

Torre was given a salary to do a job, just like many of us have jobs. And like us, Torre must be accountable for the work he is paid to do… to the guy who signs his check.

In terms of this book, it is in print. Anyone can read it. Torre is also doing many TV shows, and will be questioned by many, many people about this book. He’s not hiding like McGuire or Palmeiro. He will answer the questions. I’m not sure how he can be any more accountable then that.

I am in the camp that if the Cards score early it will be a close game, otheriwse if the Steelers jump out early, big Steelers win.

Good interview Alex. I know it is frustrating to have so many of your questions shelved.

A couple q’s:
* Did Verducci expect the backlash against he and Torre in particular that has taken place? Given this, what is worth it?
(I find it notable that someone who seemed as positive as PeteAbe has been about Torre has been so critical ,as have some of the other NY area writers)
* From the excerpts I have read Torre does not seem fond of many of the players brought in about 2001 forward. It seems Torre took the Bill Parcells approach that if he is tasked with cooking the meal he should be allowed to shop for the groceries with regards to the players brought in during this time. Did Torre believe he should have gotten more say in personnel? What would he have done different to better integrate the newcomers to the “Yankee way?”

I’d also like to see Verducci asked how it’s possible that Torre is so unable to second guess his own managerial decisions. It’s a bit like Bush saying his one mistake was the “mission accomplished” banner, not a fundamental inability to make analytic decisions and engage in any kind of introspection. Maybe just ask Tom his opinion of the ways in which Torre is imperfect. See if he can come up with anything at all other than those irritating fluffy answers that actually just offer up a positive.

Here’s a question Alex:
How much was Torre and/or management aware of steroid use in general and amongst the Yankees in particular.

Thanks for the interview.

Go Cards!

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