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		<title>By: SteveAmerica</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/03/29/gearing-up/#comment-157339</link>
		<dc:creator>SteveAmerica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 03:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went to Busch Stadium several years ago. I went because I was visiting a girl I was dating at the time in St Louis. I didn&#039;t like the Cards, or any of their player really. 

In the 4th inning, the Cards were trailing, bases loaded, two out, Scott Rolen starts walking to the plate. Some song by Limp Bizkit (a band I hate) starts playing, the line in the song is &quot;Rollin&#039; Rollin&#039; Rollin&#039;&quot; which is apropos because, ya know...his name is Rolen. 

It was a cool moment, it was theater. I liked it. It didn&#039;t ruin my baseball experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went to Busch Stadium several years ago. I went because I was visiting a girl I was dating at the time in St Louis. I didn&#8217;t like the Cards, or any of their player really. </p>
<p>In the 4th inning, the Cards were trailing, bases loaded, two out, Scott Rolen starts walking to the plate. Some song by Limp Bizkit (a band I hate) starts playing, the line in the song is &#8220;Rollin&#8217; Rollin&#8217; Rollin&#8217;&#8221; which is apropos because, ya know&#8230;his name is Rolen. </p>
<p>It was a cool moment, it was theater. I liked it. It didn&#8217;t ruin my baseball experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Chyll Will</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/03/29/gearing-up/#comment-157338</link>
		<dc:creator>Chyll Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 03:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[35] &lt;blockquote&gt;As is often the case when the topic turns to music here, I also sady have to accept that I am in the minority.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;i&gt; &quot;No-body knooows the trouble I&#039; seeeen... no-body knoooows the sor-roooowww...&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Being in the minority isn&#039;t such a bad thing, isn&#039;t it Will? Especially with the rich cultural history behind it! &lt;b&gt;&gt;;)&lt;/b&gt;</description>
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<blockquote>As is often the case when the topic turns to music here, I also sady have to accept that I am in the minority.</p></blockquote>
<p><i> &#8220;No-body knooows the trouble I&#8217; seeeen&#8230; no-body knoooows the sor-roooowww&#8230;&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Being in the minority isn&#8217;t such a bad thing, isn&#8217;t it Will? Especially with the rich cultural history behind it! <b>&gt;;)</b></p>
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		<title>By: williamnyy23</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/03/29/gearing-up/#comment-157337</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 01:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[33] As is often the case when the topic turns to music here, I also sady have to accept that I am in the minority. I am with you on most of your preferences, but I guess I am just able to filter out all of the extraneous stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[33] As is often the case when the topic turns to music here, I also sady have to accept that I am in the minority. I am with you on most of your preferences, but I guess I am just able to filter out all of the extraneous stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: monkeypants</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/03/29/gearing-up/#comment-157336</link>
		<dc:creator>monkeypants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 01:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[32] To continue from [33]: I think that &quot;we&quot; (MLB and its fans) are doing a long term disservice by appealing to kids via gimmicks and loud music, rather than simply baseball itself.  Of course, I cannot prove this, and many parents will now post saying how their 5-year-old loves YMCA, yada-yada. 

But I firmly believe that if you take you child to an MLB game, and pay attention to them, and explain the game, and show your enthusiasm, they will learn to appreciate this amazing game.  I know this will be my approach with my own kids.  I guess in 30 years we&#039;ll have to bring up this conversation again and look at my case study as evidence!

; )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[32] To continue from [33]: I think that &#8220;we&#8221; (MLB and its fans) are doing a long term disservice by appealing to kids via gimmicks and loud music, rather than simply baseball itself.  Of course, I cannot prove this, and many parents will now post saying how their 5-year-old loves YMCA, yada-yada. </p>
<p>But I firmly believe that if you take you child to an MLB game, and pay attention to them, and explain the game, and show your enthusiasm, they will learn to appreciate this amazing game.  I know this will be my approach with my own kids.  I guess in 30 years we&#8217;ll have to bring up this conversation again and look at my case study as evidence!</p>
<p>; )</p>
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		<title>By: monkeypants</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/03/29/gearing-up/#comment-157335</link>
		<dc:creator>monkeypants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 01:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[26] I tend to believe that consumers can be relatively easily manipulated, and that most crowds (in various senses of the word) tend to &quot;get into&quot; whatever is being offered them because that&#039;s what crowds do.  As such, while the attendees of Yankees games seem to get into the various between-inning gimmicks, I a not convinced they would not get into more &quot;traditional&quot; offerings.

On the whole, though, this is not an issue that I have much energy to debate.  If it IS the case that the vast majority of attendees really dig blaring music, then I have to accept that I am in the minority. When such distractions become too...well...distracting, I will simply concede that the product (live MLB) is not aimed at me and I will no longer pay to consume it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[26] I tend to believe that consumers can be relatively easily manipulated, and that most crowds (in various senses of the word) tend to &#8220;get into&#8221; whatever is being offered them because that&#8217;s what crowds do.  As such, while the attendees of Yankees games seem to get into the various between-inning gimmicks, I a not convinced they would not get into more &#8220;traditional&#8221; offerings.</p>
<p>On the whole, though, this is not an issue that I have much energy to debate.  If it IS the case that the vast majority of attendees really dig blaring music, then I have to accept that I am in the minority. When such distractions become too&#8230;well&#8230;distracting, I will simply concede that the product (live MLB) is not aimed at me and I will no longer pay to consume it.</p>
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		<title>By: williamnyy23</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/03/29/gearing-up/#comment-157334</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 01:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[29] Yes, I have a feeling that our opinions of music are vastly different.

As for the gimmicks, yes, the crowd does seem to get into them, especially the kids, who ironically, everyone always seems to think we should all be so worried about. 

[31] Luca Brasi is muscle, but without the brains, so I am not sure he qualifies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[29] Yes, I have a feeling that our opinions of music are vastly different.</p>
<p>As for the gimmicks, yes, the crowd does seem to get into them, especially the kids, who ironically, everyone always seems to think we should all be so worried about. </p>
<p>[31] Luca Brasi is muscle, but without the brains, so I am not sure he qualifies.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/03/29/gearing-up/#comment-157333</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 01:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[30] Yep, the Luca Brasi guy..a bit scary but nice on your team..hey, just like Kyle Farnsworth! Think KC would trade him back?? who&#039;s the Yankees &quot;enforcer&quot; this year anyway??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[30] Yep, the Luca Brasi guy..a bit scary but nice on your team..hey, just like Kyle Farnsworth! Think KC would trade him back?? who&#8217;s the Yankees &#8220;enforcer&#8221; this year anyway??</p>
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		<title>By: Chyll Will</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/03/29/gearing-up/#comment-157332</link>
		<dc:creator>Chyll Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 00:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[27] Easy Rawlins applies the same logic with his connection with Mouse in &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil_in_a_Blue_Dress_(film)&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; &lt;i&gt;Devil In A Blue Dress...&lt;/i&gt; &lt;/a&gt; everyone has or needs that one wild card/thug in their corner for &quot;special occasions&quot; when you&#039;re in the game, I guess...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[27] Easy Rawlins applies the same logic with his connection with Mouse in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil_in_a_Blue_Dress_(film)" rel="nofollow"> <i>Devil In A Blue Dress&#8230;</i> </a> everyone has or needs that one wild card/thug in their corner for &#8220;special occasions&#8221; when you&#8217;re in the game, I guess&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/03/29/gearing-up/#comment-157331</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 00:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[26] If Perry Como is &quot;good music&quot; in your book William..well, at least we have our Yankee fandom in common! (You make me think of Bruno Kirby&#039;s character in &quot;Good Morning Vietnam&quot;..) 

Does the crowd really get into those things at this stage though? At least something like the sausage race in Milwaukee has &quot;local&quot; meaning..why not &quot;Take the A Train&quot; by Duke Ellington followed by a Grand Master Flash cut? give it some real New York feeling..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[26] If Perry Como is &#8220;good music&#8221; in your book William..well, at least we have our Yankee fandom in common! (You make me think of Bruno Kirby&#8217;s character in &#8220;Good Morning Vietnam&#8221;..) </p>
<p>Does the crowd really get into those things at this stage though? At least something like the sausage race in Milwaukee has &#8220;local&#8221; meaning..why not &#8220;Take the A Train&#8221; by Duke Ellington followed by a Grand Master Flash cut? give it some real New York feeling..</p>
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		<title>By: Chyll Will</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/03/29/gearing-up/#comment-157330</link>
		<dc:creator>Chyll Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 00:46:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[25] Don&#039;t the BoSox have Larry Lucchino?  Not that they necessarily cancel each other out, but they do strike me in a similarly distasteful way as Dan/Jim Duquette did as GMs (without the blood relation, AFAIK)...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[25] Don&#8217;t the BoSox have Larry Lucchino?  Not that they necessarily cancel each other out, but they do strike me in a similarly distasteful way as Dan/Jim Duquette did as GMs (without the blood relation, AFAIK)&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: williamnyy23</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/03/29/gearing-up/#comment-157329</link>
		<dc:creator>williamnyy23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 00:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[25] Levine has more than his fair share of critics, but I am also glad he is on the Yankees side. Things can get rough and tumble in the business world, and fighters like Levine are good to have around just in case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[25] Levine has more than his fair share of critics, but I am also glad he is on the Yankees side. Things can get rough and tumble in the business world, and fighters like Levine are good to have around just in case.</p>
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		<title>By: williamnyy23</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/03/29/gearing-up/#comment-157328</link>
		<dc:creator>williamnyy23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 00:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[16] I wasn&#039;t joking at all. I also didn&#039;t realize that good music put people to sleep, but I guess that would explain a lot of what is popular today :)

[17] Again, I agree, but do you think most people do? After all, the crowd around me seems to really get into all the pre-inning gimmicks, whether it is the Top Hat Tease, YMCA, Great Subway Race, Name that Tune, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[16] I wasn&#8217;t joking at all. I also didn&#8217;t realize that good music put people to sleep, but I guess that would explain a lot of what is popular today <img src='http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>[17] Again, I agree, but do you think most people do? After all, the crowd around me seems to really get into all the pre-inning gimmicks, whether it is the Top Hat Tease, YMCA, Great Subway Race, Name that Tune, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 00:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>btw..glad Randy Levine is on our side and not with the BoSox..he&#039;s &quot;a real piece-o-work&quot; as my Pops would say...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>btw..glad Randy Levine is on our side and not with the BoSox..he&#8217;s &#8220;a real piece-o-work&#8221; as my Pops would say&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/03/29/gearing-up/#comment-157326</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 00:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[21] yeah but wasn&#039;t sure that would pass the censors! can&#039;t go wrong with the monster groove on Kalaluta Show either..funny how we don&#039;t hear 20minute Fela Kuti grooves at Yankee Stadium..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[21] yeah but wasn&#8217;t sure that would pass the censors! can&#8217;t go wrong with the monster groove on Kalaluta Show either..funny how we don&#8217;t hear 20minute Fela Kuti grooves at Yankee Stadium..</p>
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		<title>By: williamnyy23</title>
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		<dc:creator>williamnyy23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 00:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[13] That isn&#039;t what I meant at all. Having Melky around means you can pinch hit for Gardner without having to slot Damon into CF. Having said that, I still wouldn&#039;t dismiss Melky&#039;s ability as a right handed hitter. After all, the same thing was said about Bernie&#039;s ability to hit left handed at the same point in his career.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[13] That isn&#8217;t what I meant at all. Having Melky around means you can pinch hit for Gardner without having to slot Damon into CF. Having said that, I still wouldn&#8217;t dismiss Melky&#8217;s ability as a right handed hitter. After all, the same thing was said about Bernie&#8217;s ability to hit left handed at the same point in his career.</p>
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		<title>By: Chyll Will</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/03/29/gearing-up/#comment-157324</link>
		<dc:creator>Chyll Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 00:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[21] ==&gt; [19] </description>
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		<title>By: Chyll Will</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chyll Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 00:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good one, but &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9S0T0eCdy4&amp;feature=related&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this one&#039;s far more appropriate...&lt;/a&gt; (I know you saw it on the side there!) &gt;;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good one, but <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9S0T0eCdy4&amp;feature=related" rel="nofollow">this one&#8217;s far more appropriate&#8230;</a> (I know you saw it on the side there!) &gt;;)</p>
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		<title>By: Chyll Will</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chyll Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 00:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[17] Same here, baseball-wise anyway. There&#039;s real baseball being played all over the world now; you don&#039;t have to fall for the slick advertising all the time.  

I&#039;m not a hockey guy, but I went to West Point several times to watch their hockey team take on some other teams, and it was a cool experience (no pun intended).  I&#039;ve never watched the Knicks play at MSG before, but I&#039;ve been to several Nets games and enjoyed myself.  I&#039;ve never been to Giants Stadium to watch football (and with the PSL crap, I likely never will), but I&#039;ve witnessed Steve McNair tear up one of my college&#039;s team at it&#039;s Homecoming Game.  I&#039;ve even been to Mets games and made memories I didn&#039;t have at Yankee Stadium; I find Mets games more accessible than Yanks when it comes to community outreach.  

Now, I&#039;ll likely either go watch the Newark Bears or the Hudson Valley Renegades before I get to see a Yankee game at home (maybe I&#039;ll even drive to Scranton for the out-of-body experience), but I don&#039;t mind.  The experience is really what you make of it, and I&#039;d rather enjoy the game without all the bells and whistles than to be constantly reminded of how much you&#039;re paying to be dissatisfied with all the crap you didn&#039;t want or need in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[17] Same here, baseball-wise anyway. There&#8217;s real baseball being played all over the world now; you don&#8217;t have to fall for the slick advertising all the time.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a hockey guy, but I went to West Point several times to watch their hockey team take on some other teams, and it was a cool experience (no pun intended).  I&#8217;ve never watched the Knicks play at MSG before, but I&#8217;ve been to several Nets games and enjoyed myself.  I&#8217;ve never been to Giants Stadium to watch football (and with the PSL crap, I likely never will), but I&#8217;ve witnessed Steve McNair tear up one of my college&#8217;s team at it&#8217;s Homecoming Game.  I&#8217;ve even been to Mets games and made memories I didn&#8217;t have at Yankee Stadium; I find Mets games more accessible than Yanks when it comes to community outreach.  </p>
<p>Now, I&#8217;ll likely either go watch the Newark Bears or the Hudson Valley Renegades before I get to see a Yankee game at home (maybe I&#8217;ll even drive to Scranton for the out-of-body experience), but I don&#8217;t mind.  The experience is really what you make of it, and I&#8217;d rather enjoy the game without all the bells and whistles than to be constantly reminded of how much you&#8217;re paying to be dissatisfied with all the crap you didn&#8217;t want or need in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 00:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[17] how about this between innings?? http://tinyurl.com/a2w3zf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[17] how about this between innings?? <a href="http://tinyurl.com/a2w3zf" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/a2w3zf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chyll Will</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chyll Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 00:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[14] Let me know if you think Denzel mailed it in this time around.  The scuttlebutt I heard from people that worked on set makes me think that this movie will only fare well because of the post-production work; not that such things make a movie bad in principle. I&#039;m just hoping they made a true commitment to craft throughout...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[14] Let me know if you think Denzel mailed it in this time around.  The scuttlebutt I heard from people that worked on set makes me think that this movie will only fare well because of the post-production work; not that such things make a movie bad in principle. I&#8217;m just hoping they made a true commitment to craft throughout&#8230;</p>
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