Comments on: The Stopper. http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/04/15/the-stopper-3/ Development site for Bronx Banter Blog's upcoming look and feel Fri, 10 Feb 2012 08:15:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: williamnyy23 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/04/15/the-stopper-3/#comment-160170 williamnyy23 Wed, 15 Apr 2009 16:40:11 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=17480#comment-160170 [24] That's easy for you to say while watching on TV, but judging the flight path is much more difficult in person (especially from press boxes that are in less than optimal locations). Kay has his flaws, but you are being completely unfair with this criticism. [24] That’s easy for you to say while watching on TV, but judging the flight path is much more difficult in person (especially from press boxes that are in less than optimal locations). Kay has his flaws, but you are being completely unfair with this criticism.

]]> By: Mattpat11 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/04/15/the-stopper-3/#comment-160169 Mattpat11 Wed, 15 Apr 2009 16:10:59 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=17480#comment-160169 [9] Of the many things that make Kay a bad announcer, the thing I find absolutely unforgivable is his total inability to determine when an outfielder has a beat on a ball. If Carl Crawford is starting to camp under a ball almost immediately, I think its a safe bet that he's going to catch it. [9] Of the many things that make Kay a bad announcer, the thing I find absolutely unforgivable is his total inability to determine when an outfielder has a beat on a ball. If Carl Crawford is starting to camp under a ball almost immediately, I think its a safe bet that he’s going to catch it.

]]> By: tommyl http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/04/15/the-stopper-3/#comment-160168 tommyl Wed, 15 Apr 2009 15:41:14 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=17480#comment-160168 [19] If Nady needs surgery he's done for year most likely. That means he goes on the 60 day DL so the 40 man is not really an issue. You could bring up someone like Shelly Duncan who can play the OF corners, or make a move. The one I feel bad for is Nady. He's in his walk year, in this economy already. He's going to have to take a 1-year, incentive laden deal most likely. Actually, it might not be bad for the Yankees to trade Melky and resign him then. [19] If Nady needs surgery he’s done for year most likely. That means he goes on the 60 day DL so the 40 man is not really an issue. You could bring up someone like Shelly Duncan who can play the OF corners, or make a move.

The one I feel bad for is Nady. He’s in his walk year, in this economy already. He’s going to have to take a 1-year, incentive laden deal most likely. Actually, it might not be bad for the Yankees to trade Melky and resign him then.

]]> By: Diane Firstman http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/04/15/the-stopper-3/#comment-160167 Diane Firstman Wed, 15 Apr 2009 14:59:01 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=17480#comment-160167 [21] Losing Nady would hurt most around the trade deadline, as Cashman would have one less chip to work with to get whatever the Bombers need at that moment. [21]

Losing Nady would hurt most around the trade deadline, as Cashman would have one less chip to work with to get whatever the Bombers need at that moment.

]]> By: williamnyy23 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/04/15/the-stopper-3/#comment-160166 williamnyy23 Wed, 15 Apr 2009 14:31:01 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=17480#comment-160166 [19] Losing Nady might not be that big of a deal because it seems as if the Yankees weren't going to use him optimally (i.e., mostly against left handers). Not having him in the lineup against most right handers is a benefit, but when a tough lefty does appear, his bat would likely be more useful than Matsui’s or Damon’s. [19] Losing Nady might not be that big of a deal because it seems as if the Yankees weren’t going to use him optimally (i.e., mostly against left handers). Not having him in the lineup against most right handers is a benefit, but when a tough lefty does appear, his bat would likely be more useful than Matsui’s or Damon’s.

]]> By: williamnyy23 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/04/15/the-stopper-3/#comment-160165 williamnyy23 Wed, 15 Apr 2009 14:28:33 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=17480#comment-160165 [13] Right, but Bucholz and Bowden have never had success at major league level. They might be have potential, but so did Hughes and IPK last year. Masterson, meanwhile, seems more suited to the bullpen, especially because a lot of his effectiveness seems to stem from his motion (IMHO). Finally, the Red Sox can bank on Smoltz all they want, but he did have major shoulder surgery last June. At 41 years of age, I wouldn't bet on Smoltz coming back and being effective after only one year. [13] Right, but Bucholz and Bowden have never had success at major league level. They might be have potential, but so did Hughes and IPK last year. Masterson, meanwhile, seems more suited to the bullpen, especially because a lot of his effectiveness seems to stem from his motion (IMHO). Finally, the Red Sox can bank on Smoltz all they want, but he did have major shoulder surgery last June. At 41 years of age, I wouldn’t bet on Smoltz coming back and being effective after only one year.

]]> By: monkeypants http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/04/15/the-stopper-3/#comment-160164 monkeypants Wed, 15 Apr 2009 14:16:46 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=17480#comment-160164 [18] I'm not sure that a Nady injury will have that much impact. If he is out for 15 days, then Swisher slots in to RF and Teix goes to 1B. That still leaves Melky as the BUOF. Not ideal in terms of depth. In-house solutions (also not ideal) might involve putting Duncanstein back on the 40-man roster and jettisoning someone (who is the tougher question). [18] I’m not sure that a Nady injury will have that much impact. If he is out for 15 days, then Swisher slots in to RF and Teix goes to 1B. That still leaves Melky as the BUOF. Not ideal in terms of depth. In-house solutions (also not ideal) might involve putting Duncanstein back on the 40-man roster and jettisoning someone (who is the tougher question).

]]> By: Shaun P. http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/04/15/the-stopper-3/#comment-160163 Shaun P. Wed, 15 Apr 2009 14:03:33 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=17480#comment-160163 <a href="http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=17480&cp=1#comment-190576" rel="nofollow">[14]</a> Swisher is just awesome, tommy - I'm definitely on the bandwagon. My favorite line about him so far is what <a href="http://tinyurl.com/39wk9m" rel="nofollow">Pete Abe</a> wrote yesterday - "Seriously, they only had to give up Wilson Betemit to get Nick Swisher? Wilson Betemit?" I wonder what will happen if Nady is hurt. There are no OFs on the 40-man roster who aren't also on the 25-man roster. Can Juan Miranda play the OF? If not, someone has to go on the 60-day DL to make room - I believe I read that Christian Garcia was having elbow issues (again) - or my guess is that Miranda gets dropped from the 40-man. I can't see the Yanks dropping any of the kid pitchers, not when half of them might be needed in the bigs, and other half were just added to the 40-man 6 months ago. [14] Swisher is just awesome, tommy – I’m definitely on the bandwagon. My favorite line about him so far is what Pete Abe wrote yesterday – “Seriously, they only had to give up Wilson Betemit to get Nick Swisher? Wilson Betemit?”

I wonder what will happen if Nady is hurt. There are no OFs on the 40-man roster who aren’t also on the 25-man roster. Can Juan Miranda play the OF? If not, someone has to go on the 60-day DL to make room – I believe I read that Christian Garcia was having elbow issues (again) – or my guess is that Miranda gets dropped from the 40-man. I can’t see the Yanks dropping any of the kid pitchers, not when half of them might be needed in the bigs, and other half were just added to the 40-man 6 months ago.

]]> By: PJ http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/04/15/the-stopper-3/#comment-160162 PJ Wed, 15 Apr 2009 13:59:32 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=17480#comment-160162 [16] Of course, it's not as though he has pitched a gazillion innings in his career or anything. If that were really so however, what happened to the <i>rest</i> of their pitching staff, you know, that <i>didn't</i> pitch in the WBC? Apparently during the WBC, Bobby Abreu said some <i>very</i> nasty things about Josh Beckett... ;) [16] Of course, it’s not as though he has pitched a gazillion innings in his career or anything.

If that were really so however, what happened to the rest of their pitching staff, you know, that didn’t pitch in the WBC?

Apparently during the WBC, Bobby Abreu said some very nasty things about Josh Beckett…
;)

]]> By: Diane Firstman http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/04/15/the-stopper-3/#comment-160161 Diane Firstman Wed, 15 Apr 2009 13:23:25 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=17480#comment-160161 Pundits are pointing to Dice-K's 3 starts in the WBC as a culprit in this shaky start to the season. Pundits are pointing to Dice-K’s 3 starts in the WBC as a culprit in this shaky start to the season.

]]> By: Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/04/15/the-stopper-3/#comment-160160 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO Wed, 15 Apr 2009 13:19:59 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=17480#comment-160160 [14] I like Swisher, but Wil Nieves will always have my heart. 2-2 in the bottom 11th here, Seibu Lions vs Softbank Hawks..Hawks threatening with a man on 2nd, 1 out..oh wait, no game threads for NPB here..time for slumber then. [14] I like Swisher, but Wil Nieves will always have my heart.

2-2 in the bottom 11th here, Seibu Lions vs Softbank Hawks..Hawks threatening with a man on 2nd, 1 out..oh wait, no game threads for NPB here..time for slumber then.

]]> By: tommyl http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/04/15/the-stopper-3/#comment-160159 tommyl Wed, 15 Apr 2009 13:13:15 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=17480#comment-160159 Who else has a man crush on Nick Swisher besides Cliff and I? I just smile when he comes to bat. Who else has a man crush on Nick Swisher besides Cliff and I? I just smile when he comes to bat.

]]> By: ny2ca2dc http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/04/15/the-stopper-3/#comment-160158 ny2ca2dc Wed, 15 Apr 2009 13:04:47 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=17480#comment-160158 [10] Bucholz, Bowden, and reconverting Masterson, with Smoltz on the way is pretty damn good depth still. I agree with you in general, they have question marks, but their depth is of similar quality as Yanks/Rays. But they certainly don't have the same upside as the Yanks (or Rays, one would think). Does anyone know anything about J Rodriguez's defense? Loosing Nady would be a blow - If he goes down I would (again, and even more strongly) advocate trading Melky for Cameron in order to upgrade elsewhere. [10] Bucholz, Bowden, and reconverting Masterson, with Smoltz on the way is pretty damn good depth still. I agree with you in general, they have question marks, but their depth is of similar quality as Yanks/Rays. But they certainly don’t have the same upside as the Yanks (or Rays, one would think).

Does anyone know anything about J Rodriguez’s defense? Loosing Nady would be a blow – If he goes down I would (again, and even more strongly) advocate trading Melky for Cameron in order to upgrade elsewhere.

]]> By: Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/04/15/the-stopper-3/#comment-160157 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO Wed, 15 Apr 2009 12:58:07 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=17480#comment-160157 [10] Yep, Matsuzaka threw just under 600 pro innings by his 21st birthday..and that doesn't include his insane pitch counts at the Koshien High School tournament where he threw all 17-innings in a big win that got them to the finals. I think the Sox are still strong but will finish third [10] Yep, Matsuzaka threw just under 600 pro innings by his 21st birthday..and that doesn’t include his insane pitch counts at the Koshien High School tournament where he threw all 17-innings in a big win that got them to the finals. I think the Sox are still strong but will finish third

]]> By: monkeypants http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/04/15/the-stopper-3/#comment-160156 monkeypants Wed, 15 Apr 2009 12:56:47 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=17480#comment-160156 [10] Add to that the fact that Dice-K has simply not been THAT dominant to begin with, at least not up to the insane reputation (THE GYRO BALL!!! OH MY GOD!!!). Yes, a gaudy record and ERA last year, but look at the peripherals--identical or worse than his pedestrian 2007 campaign. [10] Add to that the fact that Dice-K has simply not been THAT dominant to begin with, at least not up to the insane reputation (THE GYRO BALL!!! OH MY GOD!!!). Yes, a gaudy record and ERA last year, but look at the peripherals–identical or worse than his pedestrian 2007 campaign.

]]> By: williamnyy23 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/04/15/the-stopper-3/#comment-160155 williamnyy23 Wed, 15 Apr 2009 12:31:22 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=17480#comment-160155 [9] Dice-K has logged ALOT of innings in his career. His velocity and command have been noticeably off in two starts, so I think some concern is warranted. If he goes down, all of sudden Boston's staff: Beckett (hardly a horse who has injury concerns of his own); Lester (only one year track record); Wakefield (innings eater; and Penny (time bomb for a shoulder) doesn't look so deep and strong. Throw in some serious concern about Lowrie's wrist and some slow starts by aging players (Ortiz and Lowell), and it really illustrates Boston's vulnerability. While so many people correctly scrutinized the Yankees injury concerns and depth, the Red Sox seemed to get a free pass. All of sudden, that might no longer be the case. [9] Dice-K has logged ALOT of innings in his career. His velocity and command have been noticeably off in two starts, so I think some concern is warranted. If he goes down, all of sudden Boston’s staff: Beckett (hardly a horse who has injury concerns of his own); Lester (only one year track record); Wakefield (innings eater; and Penny (time bomb for a shoulder) doesn’t look so deep and strong. Throw in some serious concern about Lowrie’s wrist and some slow starts by aging players (Ortiz and Lowell), and it really illustrates Boston’s vulnerability. While so many people correctly scrutinized the Yankees injury concerns and depth, the Red Sox seemed to get a free pass. All of sudden, that might no longer be the case.

]]> By: RIYank http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/04/15/the-stopper-3/#comment-160154 RIYank Wed, 15 Apr 2009 12:20:36 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=17480#comment-160154 Kay thought the ball might hit the wall, I figure. It did reach the track. The Dice-K fiasco (eerily similar to CMW's) and Javier Lopez' magnificent 12th inning (the A's scores on three walks and an infield hit) will make sports talk around here a whole lot of fun. For a while. The Sox will be back, but it's nice that they're the ones in a self-dug April hole this time. Kay thought the ball might hit the wall, I figure. It did reach the track.

The Dice-K fiasco (eerily similar to CMW’s) and Javier Lopez’ magnificent 12th inning (the A’s scores on three walks and an infield hit) will make sports talk around here a whole lot of fun. For a while. The Sox will be back, but it’s nice that they’re the ones in a self-dug April hole this time.

]]> By: Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/04/15/the-stopper-3/#comment-160153 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO Wed, 15 Apr 2009 11:44:02 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=17480#comment-160153 [7] Forget Burnett, I just watched the end of the game..WHAT was Brian Bruney dealing there?? If he can consistently throw like that in the 7th and 8th..wow. Too bad tomorrow's game starts at 5am here..guess will have to catch the later innings over breakfast. [7] Forget Burnett, I just watched the end of the game..WHAT was Brian Bruney dealing there?? If he can consistently throw like that in the 7th and 8th..wow.

Too bad tomorrow’s game starts at 5am here..guess will have to catch the later innings over breakfast.

]]> By: williamnyy23 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/04/15/the-stopper-3/#comment-160152 williamnyy23 Wed, 15 Apr 2009 11:39:13 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=17480#comment-160152 [3] [5] I thought it was gone off the bat too, so I think Kay deserves some slack. I think you are nitpicking here. As for Burnett, last night was Exhibit A on why he is worth the risk. Even if he doesn't give you 200 innings each of the next two season, when an arm like his comes available and you have the money, you have to take a chance. I am glad the Yankees did, and will feel the same way even if he winds up being injured. [3] [5] I thought it was gone off the bat too, so I think Kay deserves some slack. I think you are nitpicking here.

As for Burnett, last night was Exhibit A on why he is worth the risk. Even if he doesn’t give you 200 innings each of the next two season, when an arm like his comes available and you have the money, you have to take a chance. I am glad the Yankees did, and will feel the same way even if he winds up being injured.

]]> By: Cliff Corcoran http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/04/15/the-stopper-3/#comment-160151 Cliff Corcoran Wed, 15 Apr 2009 07:53:27 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=17480#comment-160151 I suppose Crawford could have tripped over his shoelaces . . . I suppose Crawford could have tripped over his shoelaces . . .

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