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	<title>Comments on: Now Batting for the Yankees, Eric Hinske</title>
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		<title>By: Bum Rush</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/06/30/now-batting-for-the-yankees-eric-hinske/#comment-188010</link>
		<dc:creator>Bum Rush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 59

And what&#039;s funny about that 2003 team - their weak hitters came up empty. Exactly as they did in 2004, 2005, 2006, and 2007.

Nah, this is all new to Cashman.</description>
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<p>And what&#8217;s funny about that 2003 team &#8211; their weak hitters came up empty. Exactly as they did in 2004, 2005, 2006, and 2007.</p>
<p>Nah, this is all new to Cashman.</p>
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		<title>By: Bum Rush</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/06/30/now-batting-for-the-yankees-eric-hinske/#comment-188009</link>
		<dc:creator>Bum Rush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 59

Great, so once every four years there&#039;s a championship club with a weak OF. Those aren&#039;t odds I want, especially not with a $200 million payroll.

@ 60

Since neither Damon nor Swisher have ever slugged .500, I don&#039;t consider that legit, no, especially not when their career average is .438 and .456 respectively.

The weak OF is a horrible way to give back runs after getting them from the infield. esp when outfield bats are so cheap.</description>
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<p>Great, so once every four years there&#8217;s a championship club with a weak OF. Those aren&#8217;t odds I want, especially not with a $200 million payroll.</p>
<p>@ 60</p>
<p>Since neither Damon nor Swisher have ever slugged .500, I don&#8217;t consider that legit, no, especially not when their career average is .438 and .456 respectively.</p>
<p>The weak OF is a horrible way to give back runs after getting them from the infield. esp when outfield bats are so cheap.</p>
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		<title>By: PJ</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/06/30/now-batting-for-the-yankees-eric-hinske/#comment-188008</link>
		<dc:creator>PJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Q: How did using Posada and Molina sharing time at catcher work out for the Yankees earlier this season again?

A: Four words...

[Francisco Cervelli and Kevin Cash]

I hope Hinske can catch, because the &quot;paper boys&quot; didn&#039;t last &lt;i&gt;two months&lt;/i&gt; prior to a lengthy trip to the DL for &lt;i&gt;both of them&lt;/i&gt;. And they didn&#039;t get hurt catching. They got hurt &lt;i&gt;running&lt;/i&gt;! And now they are expected to catch for the last three months of the season splitting time the way they did this spring during the hottest time of the year and into the stretch run?

Sure... if you say so...

Q: How tragic will it be if their three best catchers get hurt between now and September, if they send Cervelli down to &quot;play full time in AAA?&quot;

A: Real</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Q: How did using Posada and Molina sharing time at catcher work out for the Yankees earlier this season again?</p>
<p>A: Four words&#8230;</p>
<p>[Francisco Cervelli and Kevin Cash]</p>
<p>I hope Hinske can catch, because the &#8220;paper boys&#8221; didn&#8217;t last <i>two months</i> prior to a lengthy trip to the DL for <i>both of them</i>. And they didn&#8217;t get hurt catching. They got hurt <i>running</i>! And now they are expected to catch for the last three months of the season splitting time the way they did this spring during the hottest time of the year and into the stretch run?</p>
<p>Sure&#8230; if you say so&#8230;</p>
<p>Q: How tragic will it be if their three best catchers get hurt between now and September, if they send Cervelli down to &#8220;play full time in AAA?&#8221;</p>
<p>A: Real</p>
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		<title>By: cult of basebaal</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/06/30/now-batting-for-the-yankees-eric-hinske/#comment-188007</link>
		<dc:creator>cult of basebaal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well, at least there&#039;s only 1/2 hour to go until game time ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, at least there&#8217;s only 1/2 hour to go until game time &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: seamus</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/06/30/now-batting-for-the-yankees-eric-hinske/#comment-188006</link>
		<dc:creator>seamus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[55]  So not only do the Yankees need to have a .500 slugging OF (never mind that they have two .500 OF sluggers and two of the best hitters in the game playing at the infield corners), but they need one that meets the super secret criteria of &quot;legit&quot; or they aren&#039;t a &quot;championship team.&quot;  When a team bats, it doesn&#039;t matter what position they play.   What matters is what position in the lineup they take up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[55]  So not only do the Yankees need to have a .500 slugging OF (never mind that they have two .500 OF sluggers and two of the best hitters in the game playing at the infield corners), but they need one that meets the super secret criteria of &#8220;legit&#8221; or they aren&#8217;t a &#8220;championship team.&#8221;  When a team bats, it doesn&#8217;t matter what position they play.   What matters is what position in the lineup they take up.</p>
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		<title>By: monkeypants</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/06/30/now-batting-for-the-yankees-eric-hinske/#comment-188005</link>
		<dc:creator>monkeypants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[58]

2003 Marlins, over a 2003 Yankees team without a single .500+ SLG OF.</description>
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<p>2003 Marlins, over a 2003 Yankees team without a single .500+ SLG OF.</p>
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		<title>By: Bum Rush</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/06/30/now-batting-for-the-yankees-eric-hinske/#comment-188004</link>
		<dc:creator>Bum Rush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 51

Great, three years. The time before that?</description>
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<p>Great, three years. The time before that?</p>
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		<title>By: Bum Rush</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/06/30/now-batting-for-the-yankees-eric-hinske/#comment-188003</link>
		<dc:creator>Bum Rush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 56

And there you have it. That was also a place for Duncan.

If they scored 10 more runs from his 100 ABs, that&#039;s two games in the standings.

Instead they&#039;ve had a horrid bench. For $200 million.</description>
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<p>And there you have it. That was also a place for Duncan.</p>
<p>If they scored 10 more runs from his 100 ABs, that&#8217;s two games in the standings.</p>
<p>Instead they&#8217;ve had a horrid bench. For $200 million.</p>
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		<title>By: MichiganYankee</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/06/30/now-batting-for-the-yankees-eric-hinske/#comment-188002</link>
		<dc:creator>MichiganYankee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still like the move, but it would have been a whole lot better when there were still interleague games remaining.  Having to chose among Cervelli, Ransom and Pena as pinch-hitting options was exacerbating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still like the move, but it would have been a whole lot better when there were still interleague games remaining.  Having to chose among Cervelli, Ransom and Pena as pinch-hitting options was exacerbating.</p>
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		<title>By: Bum Rush</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/06/30/now-batting-for-the-yankees-eric-hinske/#comment-188001</link>
		<dc:creator>Bum Rush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 46

But how many times did Pena and Berroa play together? Just explaining the idiocy doesn&#039;t make it any better. Carrying two BIFs, even with A-Rod, is idiocy. 

And yeah, Duncan could have played two or three times a week subbing Damon and Matsui. That&#039;s almost 100 ABs by now. That doesn&#039;t mean he would have done anything with those ABs. Just that have a need and a solution. Instead they traded for another lefty bat.

@ 47

Damon&#039;s not legit. Not for the first time at 35.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 46</p>
<p>But how many times did Pena and Berroa play together? Just explaining the idiocy doesn&#8217;t make it any better. Carrying two BIFs, even with A-Rod, is idiocy. </p>
<p>And yeah, Duncan could have played two or three times a week subbing Damon and Matsui. That&#8217;s almost 100 ABs by now. That doesn&#8217;t mean he would have done anything with those ABs. Just that have a need and a solution. Instead they traded for another lefty bat.</p>
<p>@ 47</p>
<p>Damon&#8217;s not legit. Not for the first time at 35.</p>
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		<title>By: The Hawk</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/06/30/now-batting-for-the-yankees-eric-hinske/#comment-188000</link>
		<dc:creator>The Hawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[52] I see. Well there you have it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[52] I see. Well there you have it!</p>
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		<title>By: The Hawk</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/06/30/now-batting-for-the-yankees-eric-hinske/#comment-187999</link>
		<dc:creator>The Hawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[48] I&#039;m just saying, chicken; egg.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[48] I&#8217;m just saying, chicken; egg.</p>
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		<title>By: monkeypants</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/06/30/now-batting-for-the-yankees-eric-hinske/#comment-187998</link>
		<dc:creator>monkeypants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[50] Cripes, I did not!

Apologies around!

Now seriously, I have to make dinner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[50] Cripes, I did not!</p>
<p>Apologies around!</p>
<p>Now seriously, I have to make dinner.</p>
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		<title>By: monkeypants</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/06/30/now-batting-for-the-yankees-eric-hinske/#comment-187997</link>
		<dc:creator>monkeypants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[39] For what it&#039;s worth, the 2006 Cardinals won the Ws with the following starting OF: Taguchi, Edmonds, and Encarnacion. I&#039;ll let you look up their slugging stats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[39] For what it&#8217;s worth, the 2006 Cardinals won the Ws with the following starting OF: Taguchi, Edmonds, and Encarnacion. I&#8217;ll let you look up their slugging stats.</p>
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		<title>By: seamus</title>
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		<dc:creator>seamus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[48] that was Hawk, not Bum Rush, who made that observation.  I wasn&#039;t sure if you realized that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[48] that was Hawk, not Bum Rush, who made that observation.  I wasn&#8217;t sure if you realized that.</p>
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		<title>By: seamus</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/06/30/now-batting-for-the-yankees-eric-hinske/#comment-187995</link>
		<dc:creator>seamus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[47] I should have noted that two of those .500 slugging outfielders are Yankees and two are Angels so there are five teams without a .500 slugging outfielder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[47] I should have noted that two of those .500 slugging outfielders are Yankees and two are Angels so there are five teams without a .500 slugging outfielder.</p>
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		<title>By: monkeypants</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/06/30/now-batting-for-the-yankees-eric-hinske/#comment-187994</link>
		<dc:creator>monkeypants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[43] &lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;As the rhetoric ratchets up, the arguments slide more into irrationality”

Or the converse.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The converse would be: &quot;as the arguments slide more into irrationality, the rhetoric ratchets up.&quot;  If you prefer that your posts be characterized as such, I will not argue.

In fact, I&#039;m done with this.  Off to make dinner.  Enjoy the game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[43]<br />
<blockquote>&#8220;As the rhetoric ratchets up, the arguments slide more into irrationality”</p>
<p>Or the converse.</p></blockquote>
<p>The converse would be: &#8220;as the arguments slide more into irrationality, the rhetoric ratchets up.&#8221;  If you prefer that your posts be characterized as such, I will not argue.</p>
<p>In fact, I&#8217;m done with this.  Off to make dinner.  Enjoy the game.</p>
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		<title>By: seamus</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/06/30/now-batting-for-the-yankees-eric-hinske/#comment-187993</link>
		<dc:creator>seamus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[39] given that there are only 11 outfielders in the AL with .500 slugging or better and 14 teams, I&#039;d say there are at least three without a .500 slugging outfielder.  The Yankees are not one of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[39] given that there are only 11 outfielders in the AL with .500 slugging or better and 14 teams, I&#8217;d say there are at least three without a .500 slugging outfielder.  The Yankees are not one of them.</p>
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		<title>By: monkeypants</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/06/30/now-batting-for-the-yankees-eric-hinske/#comment-187992</link>
		<dc:creator>monkeypants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[40] I&#039;m not missing your point at all. I&#039;m stating the simple fact that the organization was going to carry one BU IF--especially given A-Rod&#039;s condition--in order to give a 30 y.o. MiL a trial run.  Frankly, as rarely as Berroa and Pena played together, I&#039;m not sure Duncan would have seen that much more playing time.  Probably some PH appearances...but for whom?  If he pinch hit for the BU IF, then A-Rod has to go back in the game anyway.  If he PH for one of the weaker OFs (Melky, Gardner), then you have to swap in the other to take over in CF, or go with Damon in CF and Duncan in the corner.

He *could* have gotten some playing time at DH, I suppose, on days when Matsui rested. Or perhaps in LF (yikes) when Damon rested. But then, he would be largely displacing Melky/Gardner to the bench. 

Sorry, I just don&#039;t see the grave injustice here.

You seem really angry that Duncan has not gotten more of a shot--I agree with you to apoint. You seem cheesed off about Ransom. Neither one of these issues seems to have much to do with Hinske, who appears to improve the roster ever so slightly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[40] I&#8217;m not missing your point at all. I&#8217;m stating the simple fact that the organization was going to carry one BU IF&#8211;especially given A-Rod&#8217;s condition&#8211;in order to give a 30 y.o. MiL a trial run.  Frankly, as rarely as Berroa and Pena played together, I&#8217;m not sure Duncan would have seen that much more playing time.  Probably some PH appearances&#8230;but for whom?  If he pinch hit for the BU IF, then A-Rod has to go back in the game anyway.  If he PH for one of the weaker OFs (Melky, Gardner), then you have to swap in the other to take over in CF, or go with Damon in CF and Duncan in the corner.</p>
<p>He *could* have gotten some playing time at DH, I suppose, on days when Matsui rested. Or perhaps in LF (yikes) when Damon rested. But then, he would be largely displacing Melky/Gardner to the bench. </p>
<p>Sorry, I just don&#8217;t see the grave injustice here.</p>
<p>You seem really angry that Duncan has not gotten more of a shot&#8211;I agree with you to apoint. You seem cheesed off about Ransom. Neither one of these issues seems to have much to do with Hinske, who appears to improve the roster ever so slightly.</p>
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		<title>By: Bum Rush</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bum Rush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 42

Nooooooo! Just because some unexpected positions are above average doesn&#039;t mean you can afford mediocrity elsewhere. Decent corner OF bats are easy to find. Look at the market this off-season.</description>
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<p>Nooooooo! Just because some unexpected positions are above average doesn&#8217;t mean you can afford mediocrity elsewhere. Decent corner OF bats are easy to find. Look at the market this off-season.</p>
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