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	<title>Comments on: Yankee Panky: Channeling Todd Drew</title>
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		<title>By: upper deck view</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/06/30/yankee-panky-channeling-todd-drew/#comment-187909</link>
		<dc:creator>upper deck view</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 02:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will, thank you for this. While going through his things, I found at least a dozen of Todd&#039;s notebooks with his scribbles from talking to people. I miss his writing too. Take care, Marsha Drew</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will, thank you for this. While going through his things, I found at least a dozen of Todd&#8217;s notebooks with his scribbles from talking to people. I miss his writing too. Take care, Marsha Drew</p>
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		<title>By: cult of basebaal</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/06/30/yankee-panky-channeling-todd-drew/#comment-187908</link>
		<dc:creator>cult of basebaal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[64] you sure seem to roll your eyes a bunch when you&#039;ve run out of actual things to say ... but whatever, we&#039;re done here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[64] you sure seem to roll your eyes a bunch when you&#8217;ve run out of actual things to say &#8230; but whatever, we&#8217;re done here.</p>
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		<title>By: PJ</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/06/30/yankee-panky-channeling-todd-drew/#comment-187907</link>
		<dc:creator>PJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[63] Oh, I&#039;m sorry... I thought we were talking about 25th men... or bench players...

You win, Cult.

Happy?

*rolls eyes*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[63] Oh, I&#8217;m sorry&#8230; I thought we were talking about 25th men&#8230; or bench players&#8230;</p>
<p>You win, Cult.</p>
<p>Happy?</p>
<p>*rolls eyes*</p>
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		<title>By: cult of basebaal</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/06/30/yankee-panky-channeling-todd-drew/#comment-187906</link>
		<dc:creator>cult of basebaal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[62] &lt;i&gt;he wasn&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; by which I mean he was much better than that. Anyone who can beat out Ted Williams for an All-Star spot and set the KC A&#039;s HR record can *start* on my team anyday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[62] <i>he wasn&#8217;t</i> by which I mean he was much better than that. Anyone who can beat out Ted Williams for an All-Star spot and set the KC A&#8217;s HR record can *start* on my team anyday.</p>
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		<title>By: cult of basebaal</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/06/30/yankee-panky-channeling-todd-drew/#comment-187905</link>
		<dc:creator>cult of basebaal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Give me Bob Cerv over Eric Hinske any day…&lt;/i&gt;

and give me Eric Hinske over Enos Slaughter, Irv Noren, Norm Sieborn and other assorted hacktastic riff-raff the Yankees often wasted at bats on during those years

Also, i&#039;m not sure what Cerv is doing in a discussion about &quot;league average&quot;, since, well, as a hitter, he wasn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Give me Bob Cerv over Eric Hinske any day…</i></p>
<p>and give me Eric Hinske over Enos Slaughter, Irv Noren, Norm Sieborn and other assorted hacktastic riff-raff the Yankees often wasted at bats on during those years</p>
<p>Also, i&#8217;m not sure what Cerv is doing in a discussion about &#8220;league average&#8221;, since, well, as a hitter, he wasn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: PJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>PJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[42] &quot;Wow, must be a slow afternoon in PJ Land and Bum World. No tourists coming through? Popcorn to sell? Bobbleheads?&quot;

Wow, indeed!

So much for

&quot;Thank You For Not . . .

personally attacking other commenters 
baiting other commenters...&quot;

Perhaps you would have know that, if you weren&#039;t &quot;too lazy to check&quot;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[42] &#8220;Wow, must be a slow afternoon in PJ Land and Bum World. No tourists coming through? Popcorn to sell? Bobbleheads?&#8221;</p>
<p>Wow, indeed!</p>
<p>So much for</p>
<p>&#8220;Thank You For Not . . .</p>
<p>personally attacking other commenters<br />
baiting other commenters&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Perhaps you would have know that, if you weren&#8217;t &#8220;too lazy to check&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bum Rush</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bum Rush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 59

The time to rest Matsui and Damon is against LHP - as it has been for the whole season. That&#039;s a role for a RH hitter - Duncan, DeRosa, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 59</p>
<p>The time to rest Matsui and Damon is against LHP &#8211; as it has been for the whole season. That&#8217;s a role for a RH hitter &#8211; Duncan, DeRosa, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Raf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Why would you replace Damon or Matsui with Hinske?&lt;/b&gt;

To give them a day off.  That he&#039;s a worse hitter isn&#039;t relevant.  If he were a better hitter and starting over Damon &amp; Matsui then, yes, there&#039;d be a problem.  But as the 5th OF option, I doubt that he&#039;ll be a starter anytime soon.

@ 57

I would rather see the Yanks go with an 11 man staff and rotate pitchers in and out of the pen if need be than having a 12 man staff.  There is no use for Tomko if Aceves and Hughes are there as &quot;long&quot; men, and Bruney and Robertson are there as &quot;short&quot; men.  Especially when you have Aceves and Hughes that can go long or short, and Phil Coke who can get both RH &amp; LH batters out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Why would you replace Damon or Matsui with Hinske?</b></p>
<p>To give them a day off.  That he&#8217;s a worse hitter isn&#8217;t relevant.  If he were a better hitter and starting over Damon &amp; Matsui then, yes, there&#8217;d be a problem.  But as the 5th OF option, I doubt that he&#8217;ll be a starter anytime soon.</p>
<p>@ 57</p>
<p>I would rather see the Yanks go with an 11 man staff and rotate pitchers in and out of the pen if need be than having a 12 man staff.  There is no use for Tomko if Aceves and Hughes are there as &#8220;long&#8221; men, and Bruney and Robertson are there as &#8220;short&#8221; men.  Especially when you have Aceves and Hughes that can go long or short, and Phil Coke who can get both RH &amp; LH batters out.</p>
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		<title>By: Bum Rush</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bum Rush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 56

Whoa hyperbole. I&#039;ve been much fairer to Cashman than Girardi has gotten. I criticize the GM for actual moves he&#039;s made (or hasn&#039;t), rather than some BS about preparation and motivation.

As for Swisher, he&#039;s fine if he&#039;s not overexposed. Personally, I would have called up Duncan two months ago. He&#039;s not much but he helps them esp. with Matsui and Damon. I would have also signed Dunn instead of Teixeira...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 56</p>
<p>Whoa hyperbole. I&#8217;ve been much fairer to Cashman than Girardi has gotten. I criticize the GM for actual moves he&#8217;s made (or hasn&#8217;t), rather than some BS about preparation and motivation.</p>
<p>As for Swisher, he&#8217;s fine if he&#8217;s not overexposed. Personally, I would have called up Duncan two months ago. He&#8217;s not much but he helps them esp. with Matsui and Damon. I would have also signed Dunn instead of Teixeira&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: monkeypants</title>
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		<dc:creator>monkeypants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[54] I like your thinking, but &lt;b&gt;the&lt;/B&gt; limiting factor is the twelve man pitching staff, which currently part of baseball orthodoxy.  In the American league alone, 11 teams have a 12 man staff, 1 has a 13 man staff, and only 2 (Twins and Mariners) have an 11 man staff.  In fact, as I write this, one of the rotating headlines on the Twins&#039; MLB.com page calls particular attention to the success of the team&#039;s 6-man bullpen, indicating how unorthodox such a roster is considered these days.

Song as the Yankees carry twelve pitchers, DFAing Tomko would have no bearing on the bench, because he would simply be replaced with another arm.  However, if the Yankees decided to buck the trend and go with 11 pitchers, they could, as you suggest, &quot;go with both&quot; (Hinske and Duncan) on the bench.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[54] I like your thinking, but <b>the</b> limiting factor is the twelve man pitching staff, which currently part of baseball orthodoxy.  In the American league alone, 11 teams have a 12 man staff, 1 has a 13 man staff, and only 2 (Twins and Mariners) have an 11 man staff.  In fact, as I write this, one of the rotating headlines on the Twins&#8217; MLB.com page calls particular attention to the success of the team&#8217;s 6-man bullpen, indicating how unorthodox such a roster is considered these days.</p>
<p>Song as the Yankees carry twelve pitchers, DFAing Tomko would have no bearing on the bench, because he would simply be replaced with another arm.  However, if the Yankees decided to buck the trend and go with 11 pitchers, they could, as you suggest, &#8220;go with both&#8221; (Hinske and Duncan) on the bench.</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun P.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun P.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[55] Perhaps he simply got tired of trying to reason with someone who think Cashman is the devil?

Out of curiousity - what&#039;s your take on Nick Swisher?  Should he be playing every day or should the Yanks be looking for someone to take over when he runs cold?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[55] Perhaps he simply got tired of trying to reason with someone who think Cashman is the devil?</p>
<p>Out of curiousity &#8211; what&#8217;s your take on Nick Swisher?  Should he be playing every day or should the Yanks be looking for someone to take over when he runs cold?</p>
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		<title>By: Bum Rush</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bum Rush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 54

Why would you replace Damon or Matsui with Hinske? He&#039;s a worse hitter than both of them - against LHP and RHP. So he adds nothing. 

Just a dumb move. It wastes more ABs (see also Berroa and Ransom) without helping the team. And he&#039;s a butcher at 3B.

What happened to williamnyy23 and his &quot;common sense&quot;? Hahahahaha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 54</p>
<p>Why would you replace Damon or Matsui with Hinske? He&#8217;s a worse hitter than both of them &#8211; against LHP and RHP. So he adds nothing. </p>
<p>Just a dumb move. It wastes more ABs (see also Berroa and Ransom) without helping the team. And he&#8217;s a butcher at 3B.</p>
<p>What happened to williamnyy23 and his &#8220;common sense&#8221;? Hahahahaha.</p>
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		<title>By: Raf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 53

I don&#039;t know why they haven&#039;t gone with Duncan, and I alluded to as much in post #17.  I still think there&#039;s room for both, all they need to do is jettison Tomko, who is redundant with Aceves, Robinson and Hughes on the team.

There is no reason Hinkse couldn&#039;t spell Damon and Matsui, despite both batting LH&#039;ed.  Swisher is your primary starter/backup in the corners anyway, with Melky getting his starts here and there.  Swisher is also the primary backup @ 1b, with the odd man out in the OF, 1b, or C getting whatever DH at bats are available, if Matsui isn&#039;t playing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 53</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know why they haven&#8217;t gone with Duncan, and I alluded to as much in post #17.  I still think there&#8217;s room for both, all they need to do is jettison Tomko, who is redundant with Aceves, Robinson and Hughes on the team.</p>
<p>There is no reason Hinkse couldn&#8217;t spell Damon and Matsui, despite both batting LH&#8217;ed.  Swisher is your primary starter/backup in the corners anyway, with Melky getting his starts here and there.  Swisher is also the primary backup @ 1b, with the odd man out in the OF, 1b, or C getting whatever DH at bats are available, if Matsui isn&#8217;t playing.</p>
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		<title>By: Bum Rush</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bum Rush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 51

Perhaps. But then they&#039;ve replaced a horrid OF bat with an even worse one. At least Shelley would have let them rest Damon and Matsui. Why not give him a few ABs over the last two months?

@ 52

Think what they could do with one decent corner OF bat! Nah, not that I would expect that on a $200 million team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 51</p>
<p>Perhaps. But then they&#8217;ve replaced a horrid OF bat with an even worse one. At least Shelley would have let them rest Damon and Matsui. Why not give him a few ABs over the last two months?</p>
<p>@ 52</p>
<p>Think what they could do with one decent corner OF bat! Nah, not that I would expect that on a $200 million team.</p>
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		<title>By: Raf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;They can all also slug .500 – something that no one – legitmately – in the Yankee OF can do.&lt;/b&gt;

And yet, the Yanks are among the league leaders in runs scored...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>They can all also slug .500 – something that no one – legitmately – in the Yankee OF can do.</b></p>
<p>And yet, the Yanks are among the league leaders in runs scored&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Raf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;There was no reason to make this move, even if it cost nothing&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090626&amp;content_id=5543824&amp;vkey=news_mlb&amp;fext=.jsp&amp;c_id=mlb&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I think this is the reason the deal was made,&lt;/a&gt; though I could be wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>There was no reason to make this move, even if it cost nothing</b></p>
<p><a href="http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090626&amp;content_id=5543824&amp;vkey=news_mlb&amp;fext=.jsp&amp;c_id=mlb" rel="nofollow">I think this is the reason the deal was made,</a> though I could be wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Bum Rush</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bum Rush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 46

If they&#039;re worried about A-Rod they should have addressed it last season - you know when he first reported pain. But I suppose that&#039;s Girardi&#039;s fault.

@ 47

Dunn, Ibanez, and Manny are all much better than Abreu. They can all also slug .500 - something that no one - legitmately - in the Yankee OF can do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 46</p>
<p>If they&#8217;re worried about A-Rod they should have addressed it last season &#8211; you know when he first reported pain. But I suppose that&#8217;s Girardi&#8217;s fault.</p>
<p>@ 47</p>
<p>Dunn, Ibanez, and Manny are all much better than Abreu. They can all also slug .500 &#8211; something that no one &#8211; legitmately &#8211; in the Yankee OF can do.</p>
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		<title>By: PJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>PJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[38] Give me Bob Cerv over Eric Hinske any day...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[38] Give me Bob Cerv over Eric Hinske any day&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bum Rush</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bum Rush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 45

To be clear, Hinke&#039;s career .800 OPS against RHP actually hurts the Yankees relative to what they actually have. Neither Damon nor Matsui should be sitting for Hinske. That leaves 3B.

Hinske at 3B?:
-13.4 UZR

There was no reason to make this move, even if it cost nothing. Then again, nothing surprises me from a management that carries Angel Berroa for two months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 45</p>
<p>To be clear, Hinke&#8217;s career .800 OPS against RHP actually hurts the Yankees relative to what they actually have. Neither Damon nor Matsui should be sitting for Hinske. That leaves 3B.</p>
<p>Hinske at 3B?:<br />
-13.4 UZR</p>
<p>There was no reason to make this move, even if it cost nothing. Then again, nothing surprises me from a management that carries Angel Berroa for two months.</p>
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		<title>By: Raf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Thanks! Abreu only getting a one-year deal proves my point.&lt;/b&gt;

No, not really.  If anything, it proves that Abreu needs to get a better agent, seeing as Dunn, Ibanez, and Ramirez got better deals.

&lt;b&gt;There’s no place in the league for one (or none) dimensional players.&lt;/b&gt;

Not really, considering that the above players were able to find teams to play on.  And one/done dimensional players have been in the majors for quite some time.  Frank Thomas lasted for many years as one.  As did Rey Ordoñez.

&lt;b&gt;Why does Cashman love his Pirates? Nady, Marte, and now Hinske – all sooooo inspiring!&lt;/b&gt;

You forgot Enrique Wilson &amp; Luis Sojo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Thanks! Abreu only getting a one-year deal proves my point.</b></p>
<p>No, not really.  If anything, it proves that Abreu needs to get a better agent, seeing as Dunn, Ibanez, and Ramirez got better deals.</p>
<p><b>There’s no place in the league for one (or none) dimensional players.</b></p>
<p>Not really, considering that the above players were able to find teams to play on.  And one/done dimensional players have been in the majors for quite some time.  Frank Thomas lasted for many years as one.  As did Rey Ordoñez.</p>
<p><b>Why does Cashman love his Pirates? Nady, Marte, and now Hinske – all sooooo inspiring!</b></p>
<p>You forgot Enrique Wilson &amp; Luis Sojo</p>
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