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		<title>By: cult of basebaal</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/07/04/bonus-cantos/#comment-188645</link>
		<dc:creator>cult of basebaal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 16:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wang to the DL, Albaladejo up (though I imagine another move before CMW scheduled start)</description>
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		<title>By: monkeypants</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 13:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[35] On June 10, he threw 60+ pitches in 3+ innings of relief.  But since then his pitch count has gone down, and two of his last three appearances have been less than 10 pitches.  I wonder if he had been used for a couple of innings now and again, perhaps stretching him out would be easier.

I also wonder if the &quot;need to stretch him out&quot; objection is horseshit.  I think sometimes that the organization has finally succumbed to eighth inning obsession disorder, and really do see Hughes now as the eighth inning guy.  Thus, they have to concoct various excuses for why he should not be in the rotation.

HIs last for or five starts were Joba-esque or better, and yet this somehow warranted demotion to the bullpen.  When I griped at the time, it was pointed out that there would be plenty of opportunity for him to rejoin the rotation, that he was the next one back in, etc.  Well, here we are and...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[35] On June 10, he threw 60+ pitches in 3+ innings of relief.  But since then his pitch count has gone down, and two of his last three appearances have been less than 10 pitches.  I wonder if he had been used for a couple of innings now and again, perhaps stretching him out would be easier.</p>
<p>I also wonder if the &#8220;need to stretch him out&#8221; objection is horseshit.  I think sometimes that the organization has finally succumbed to eighth inning obsession disorder, and really do see Hughes now as the eighth inning guy.  Thus, they have to concoct various excuses for why he should not be in the rotation.</p>
<p>HIs last for or five starts were Joba-esque or better, and yet this somehow warranted demotion to the bullpen.  When I griped at the time, it was pointed out that there would be plenty of opportunity for him to rejoin the rotation, that he was the next one back in, etc.  Well, here we are and&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: RIYank</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 12:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[31] Yes, he looked very good. But only &#039;very good&#039;, not great -- top-shelf Wang doesn&#039;t give up the double and the homer, I think. Still, all those grounders gave me a good feeling. Oh well, back to the drawing board.
How long would it take to &quot;stretch out&quot; Hughes? Suppose you didn&#039;t worry about getting maximum use out of him, so he could throw simulated innings whenever. Start now -- give him however many innings today as is ideal for stretching purposes, or, if he&#039;s supposed to have today off, give him today off and then begin the routine. (The idea is to get maximum benefit out of the AS break.)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[31] Yes, he looked very good. But only &#8216;very good&#8217;, not great &#8212; top-shelf Wang doesn&#8217;t give up the double and the homer, I think. Still, all those grounders gave me a good feeling. Oh well, back to the drawing board.<br />
How long would it take to &#8220;stretch out&#8221; Hughes? Suppose you didn&#8217;t worry about getting maximum use out of him, so he could throw simulated innings whenever. Start now &#8212; give him however many innings today as is ideal for stretching purposes, or, if he&#8217;s supposed to have today off, give him today off and then begin the routine. (The idea is to get maximum benefit out of the AS break.)<br />
Are we talking a week, two, a month?</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 06:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This should be the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/salaries&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 05:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[6] &lt;b&gt;Only one game back. Is Girardi fired yet?&lt;/b&gt;

Their &lt;a href=&quot;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;payroll&lt;/a&gt; is over $65 million higher than any other team in MLB, yet you apparently think just keeping an extraordinarily talented team close to first place, while making numerous dumb decisions, like continuing to bat Cano 5th, demonstrates that Girardi is doing a great job, and that you have somehow nailed people who think that Girardi isn&#039;t the right manager for this team.

That&#039;s actually pretty funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[6] <b>Only one game back. Is Girardi fired yet?</b></p>
<p>Their <a href="" rel="nofollow">payroll</a> is over $65 million higher than any other team in MLB, yet you apparently think just keeping an extraordinarily talented team close to first place, while making numerous dumb decisions, like continuing to bat Cano 5th, demonstrates that Girardi is doing a great job, and that you have somehow nailed people who think that Girardi isn&#8217;t the right manager for this team.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s actually pretty funny.</p>
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		<title>By: monkeypants</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 05:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[31] And yes, I read Cliff&#039;s recap.  I&#039;m just seeing how everyone else saw the game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[31] And yes, I read Cliff&#8217;s recap.  I&#8217;m just seeing how everyone else saw the game.</p>
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		<title>By: monkeypants</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 05:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I caught the fist few innings on the radio, and the last few innings on TV. So I missed most of Wang&#039;s start.  How &quot;not bad&quot; did he look?  Better than his final line?

Is he really hurt, or is this an excuse to shut him down for a few weeks and try someone else as a starter.  Meanwhile, the team&#039;s devious ploy to use Hughes as little as possible in each relief appearance now apperas to have rendered him unfit to go back in the rotation.

Igawa?  Tomko?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I caught the fist few innings on the radio, and the last few innings on TV. So I missed most of Wang&#8217;s start.  How &#8220;not bad&#8221; did he look?  Better than his final line?</p>
<p>Is he really hurt, or is this an excuse to shut him down for a few weeks and try someone else as a starter.  Meanwhile, the team&#8217;s devious ploy to use Hughes as little as possible in each relief appearance now apperas to have rendered him unfit to go back in the rotation.</p>
<p>Igawa?  Tomko?</p>
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		<title>By: thelarmis</title>
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		<dc:creator>thelarmis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 04:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[29] yeah man, i was wondering if Bum was gonna show up w/ a new alias. esp since the email addy he signed up with is not the one he checks....

hmmm. strange things are afoot at the Circle K! 

btw, how&#039;s the turtle? : )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[29] yeah man, i was wondering if Bum was gonna show up w/ a new alias. esp since the email addy he signed up with is not the one he checks&#8230;.</p>
<p>hmmm. strange things are afoot at the Circle K! </p>
<p>btw, how&#8217;s the turtle? : )</p>
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		<title>By: Evil Empire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evil Empire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 04:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[6] hmmmmmm, sounds familiar....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[6] hmmmmmm, sounds familiar&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: seamus</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 04:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>btw, should we start an over/under on when Hinske enters a game?</description>
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		<title>By: seamus</title>
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		<dc:creator>seamus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 03:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[26] yeah it has been a pretty exciting start to the weekend.  I hope it holds.  Their starter got bumped tomorrow.  Hopefully that doesn&#039;t throw our hitters off too much.  :b

I know it isn&#039;t really fair to do this, but if you discount Wang&#039;s first couple of start our run differential is much more in line with Boston and the Rays.  Those major landslide losses give a deceptive picture.

In any case, we&#039;re winning right now.  So long as we don&#039;t panic when we get into small slumps and make unwise moves we should be in good position going into the post season. knocks on wood several times....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[26] yeah it has been a pretty exciting start to the weekend.  I hope it holds.  Their starter got bumped tomorrow.  Hopefully that doesn&#8217;t throw our hitters off too much.  :b</p>
<p>I know it isn&#8217;t really fair to do this, but if you discount Wang&#8217;s first couple of start our run differential is much more in line with Boston and the Rays.  Those major landslide losses give a deceptive picture.</p>
<p>In any case, we&#8217;re winning right now.  So long as we don&#8217;t panic when we get into small slumps and make unwise moves we should be in good position going into the post season. knocks on wood several times&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: thelarmis</title>
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		<dc:creator>thelarmis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 03:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boston - +72
Yanks  1 +59
Rays 5 +78

we have the 3rd best record in MLB and 2nd best offense. that said, we&#039;re only 6 runs behind the Rays and they&#039;ve played 2 more games than us...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boston &#8211; +72<br />
Yanks  1 +59<br />
Rays 5 +78</p>
<p>we have the 3rd best record in MLB and 2nd best offense. that said, we&#8217;re only 6 runs behind the Rays and they&#8217;ve played 2 more games than us&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: thelarmis</title>
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		<dc:creator>thelarmis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 02:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>12-4. Everyday Eddie in to close the book on the Rays. this is a nice start to the weekend. let&#039;s keep it up tomorrow.

GO JOBA!

GO YANKS!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>12-4. Everyday Eddie in to close the book on the Rays. this is a nice start to the weekend. let&#8217;s keep it up tomorrow.</p>
<p>GO JOBA!</p>
<p>GO YANKS!!!</p>
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		<title>By: thelarmis</title>
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		<dc:creator>thelarmis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 02:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>3 more outs to go in Arlington. Rangers up by 6 runs. i think it would be really terrific to gain 2 games in a row on the 3 other teams in our division that matter. let&#039;s shoot for this again tomorrow!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3 more outs to go in Arlington. Rangers up by 6 runs. i think it would be really terrific to gain 2 games in a row on the 3 other teams in our division that matter. let&#8217;s shoot for this again tomorrow!</p>
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		<title>By: ms october</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 02:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[20] thanks thelarmis - yes the bullet-proof vest kept me safe. :}

[21] yeah i definitely savored it riyank.  although i love the sun/heat by the end of the game i must say was ready to go though between the heat and ire at robertson and cano.  as you all saw the yanks were really hitting halladay hard, even on the outs.  it was great to see a game that most of us were a bit pessimistic about turn out a w.

[17] definitely pj.  i mostly enjoyed new ys.  the word that came to mind is &quot;sanitized.&quot;  obviously much of that is because it is new - the seats are more comfortable, the view (from the outfield terrace) was pretty good - i think better than a comprable seat at the old place, amenities like the bathrooms better, etc.  but it doesn&#039;t feel unique or have much of the griity edge that the old place had.  the crowd was pretty tame as well.  the most obnoxious person in my area was the water vendor who kept yelling &quot;when was the last time the yankees beat roy halladay?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[20] thanks thelarmis &#8211; yes the bullet-proof vest kept me safe. :}</p>
<p>[21] yeah i definitely savored it riyank.  although i love the sun/heat by the end of the game i must say was ready to go though between the heat and ire at robertson and cano.  as you all saw the yanks were really hitting halladay hard, even on the outs.  it was great to see a game that most of us were a bit pessimistic about turn out a w.</p>
<p>[17] definitely pj.  i mostly enjoyed new ys.  the word that came to mind is &#8220;sanitized.&#8221;  obviously much of that is because it is new &#8211; the seats are more comfortable, the view (from the outfield terrace) was pretty good &#8211; i think better than a comprable seat at the old place, amenities like the bathrooms better, etc.  but it doesn&#8217;t feel unique or have much of the griity edge that the old place had.  the crowd was pretty tame as well.  the most obnoxious person in my area was the water vendor who kept yelling &#8220;when was the last time the yankees beat roy halladay?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: thelarmis</title>
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		<dc:creator>thelarmis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 02:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The 46-year-old Moyer tied Carl Hubbell for 42nd on the all-time list with his 253rd career win.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The 46-year-old Moyer tied Carl Hubbell for 42nd on the all-time list with his 253rd career win.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: RIYank</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 02:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ms. Oct., you got free baseball! Hope you savored it. Plus beating Halladay, wow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ms. Oct., you got free baseball! Hope you savored it. Plus beating Halladay, wow.</p>
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		<title>By: thelarmis</title>
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		<dc:creator>thelarmis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 01:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[14] NOT poor manners in the slightest! 

[17] glad you got to see a win! hope the bullet-proof vest kept you safe! : )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[14] NOT poor manners in the slightest! </p>
<p>[17] glad you got to see a win! hope the bullet-proof vest kept you safe! : )</p>
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		<title>By: thelarmis</title>
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		<dc:creator>thelarmis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 01:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rangers knocked Price out early and are leading pretty big: 9-4, Bot 5.</description>
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		<title>By: PJ</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 01:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[16] It appears &quot;the best bullpen in MLB&quot; is also susceptible to a funk...

I&#039;ve noticed Papelbon struggle through most of his saves instead of facing three or four batters; at least in the games I&#039;ve seen him in over the last five weeks or so. Maybe that explains his ridiculous WHIP for a closer of 1.33. Talk about fugly, that&#039;s closer to Chamberlain&#039;s, than Mo&#039;s! Maybe one of these days, hitters will just stop swinging at Papelbon&#039;s crap, and make him throw strikes...

[17] Hey Ms October! It seems you got your money&#039;s worth as far as innings played go. Terrible about Wang and you are absolutely right about too many sliders. That is very taxing on a shoulder to be sure! Did you enjoy the New Yankee Stadium?

I too would have stayed to the end, win or lose. Obviously, Banterer&#039;s presence is a very powerful force!

: )

As far as what Alex did to only the second poster in the history of this Blog...

&quot;I must do what I must do, and I do, &#039;til I know better.&quot; - DEVO</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[16] It appears &#8220;the best bullpen in MLB&#8221; is also susceptible to a funk&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve noticed Papelbon struggle through most of his saves instead of facing three or four batters; at least in the games I&#8217;ve seen him in over the last five weeks or so. Maybe that explains his ridiculous WHIP for a closer of 1.33. Talk about fugly, that&#8217;s closer to Chamberlain&#8217;s, than Mo&#8217;s! Maybe one of these days, hitters will just stop swinging at Papelbon&#8217;s crap, and make him throw strikes&#8230;</p>
<p>[17] Hey Ms October! It seems you got your money&#8217;s worth as far as innings played go. Terrible about Wang and you are absolutely right about too many sliders. That is very taxing on a shoulder to be sure! Did you enjoy the New Yankee Stadium?</p>
<p>I too would have stayed to the end, win or lose. Obviously, Banterer&#8217;s presence is a very powerful force!</p>
<p>: )</p>
<p>As far as what Alex did to only the second poster in the history of this Blog&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;I must do what I must do, and I do, &#8217;til I know better.&#8221; &#8211; DEVO</p>
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