Comments on: Dooke of Earl http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/07/08/dooke-of-earl/ Baseball Blog by Alex Belth about the Yankees Mon, 15 Mar 2010 13:47:13 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Edwardian http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/07/08/dooke-of-earl/comment-page-1/#comment-222224 Edwardian Thu, 09 Jul 2009 05:43:36 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=21405#comment-222224 [10] I just read in Verducci's article that it's Bill Haller. [10] I just read in Verducci’s article that it’s Bill Haller.

]]> By: Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/07/08/dooke-of-earl/comment-page-1/#comment-222223 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO Thu, 09 Jul 2009 05:27:51 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=21405#comment-222223 Fantastic article, thanks for the link. [9] Thankfully..would have been a terrible film.. Fantastic article, thanks for the link.

[9] Thankfully..would have been a terrible film..

]]> By: Edwardian http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/07/08/dooke-of-earl/comment-page-1/#comment-222222 Edwardian Thu, 09 Jul 2009 05:09:45 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=21405#comment-222222 Does anyone know who the umpire is in that clip? He's great. Does anyone know who the umpire is in that clip? He’s great.

]]> By: Chyll Will http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/07/08/dooke-of-earl/comment-page-1/#comment-222217 Chyll Will Thu, 09 Jul 2009 03:21:13 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=21405#comment-222217 Btw, Moneyball has been officially <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/02/business/media/02moneyball.html?_r=1" rel="nofollow">relegated to development hell...</a> Btw, Moneyball has been officially relegated to development hell…

]]> By: Cliff Corcoran http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/07/08/dooke-of-earl/comment-page-1/#comment-221868 Cliff Corcoran Wed, 08 Jul 2009 19:48:26 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=21405#comment-221868 [6] Among many other things. Not a great book, unfortunately, but well worth the read as it's a brief, but comprehensive history of more than a century of baseball statistics and analysis. Branch Rickey (who hired Roth) and Earl Weaver are deities in the sabermetric community. I think one recent edition of the Baseball Prospectus annual quoted Branch Rickey in more than half the chapters. One of the things I love about having Ken Singleton on the YES broadcasts, behind his smooth delivery and affable nature, is that he was/is an Earl Weaver man through and through. Walks and three-run homers . . . [6] Among many other things. Not a great book, unfortunately, but well worth the read as it’s a brief, but comprehensive history of more than a century of baseball statistics and analysis.

Branch Rickey (who hired Roth) and Earl Weaver are deities in the sabermetric community. I think one recent edition of the Baseball Prospectus annual quoted Branch Rickey in more than half the chapters.

One of the things I love about having Ken Singleton on the YES broadcasts, behind his smooth delivery and affable nature, is that he was/is an Earl Weaver man through and through. Walks and three-run homers . . .

]]> By: monkeypants http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/07/08/dooke-of-earl/comment-page-1/#comment-221861 monkeypants Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:47:31 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=21405#comment-221861 [6] And I see from Wikipedia that Allen Roth was from Montreal! [6] And I see from Wikipedia that Allen Roth was from Montreal!

]]> By: Alex Belth http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/07/08/dooke-of-earl/comment-page-1/#comment-221859 Alex Belth Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:41:37 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=21405#comment-221859 monkeypants, check out "The Numbers Game," by Alan Schwartz. It's got a good history of Roth and the Dodgers. monkeypants, check out “The Numbers Game,” by Alan Schwartz. It’s got a good history of Roth and the Dodgers.

]]> By: Shaun P. http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/07/08/dooke-of-earl/comment-page-1/#comment-221858 Shaun P. Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:30:20 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=21405#comment-221858 [1] And as william implies, the funniest part of all is that Moneyball wasn't about OBP and power and not stealing and anti-small ball at all. It was about finding market inefficiencies and exploiting them to Oakland's advantage, because Oakland had fewer resources to work with. That was the genius of Moneyball, not that OBP was good. It was nice to have OBP is good become widely known, though. [1] And as william implies, the funniest part of all is that Moneyball wasn’t about OBP and power and not stealing and anti-small ball at all. It was about finding market inefficiencies and exploiting them to Oakland’s advantage, because Oakland had fewer resources to work with.

That was the genius of Moneyball, not that OBP was good. It was nice to have OBP is good become widely known, though.

]]> By: monkeypants http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/07/08/dooke-of-earl/comment-page-1/#comment-221857 monkeypants Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:29:14 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=21405#comment-221857 [3] I had heard or read someplace that the Dodgers basically invented OBP as an evaluation tool, back in the 40s or 50s. [3] I had heard or read someplace that the Dodgers basically invented OBP as an evaluation tool, back in the 40s or 50s.

]]> By: Alex Belth http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/07/08/dooke-of-earl/comment-page-1/#comment-221853 Alex Belth Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:14:04 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=21405#comment-221853 And Allen Roth was all about those philosophies when he was the statistician for the Brooklyn Dodgers years before Weaver. And Allen Roth was all about those philosophies when he was the statistician for the Brooklyn Dodgers years before Weaver.

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