Comments on: Be It Ever So Humble . . . It’s Still A Damn Dome

By: monkeypants

monkeypants — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 02:04:04 +0000

[226] CG league leaders in the 1980s:

1989 (NL AL)
Tim Belcher (LAD)
Bruce Hurst * (SDP) 10
Bret Saberhagen (KCR) 12

1988 (NL AL)
Orel Hershiser (LAD)
Danny Jackson * (CIN) 15
Roger Clemens (BOS)
Dave Stewart (OAK) 14

1987 (NL AL)
Rick Reuschel (TOT)
Fernando Valenzuela * (LAD) 12
Roger Clemens (BOS) 18

1986 (NL AL)
Fernando Valenzuela * (LAD) 20
Tom Candiotti (CLE) 17

1985 (NL AL)
Dwight Gooden (NYM) 16
Bert Blyleven (TOT) 24

1984 (NL AL)
Mario Soto (CIN) 13
Charlie Hough (TEX) 17

1983 (NL AL)
Mario Soto (CIN) 18
Ron Guidry * (NYY) 21

1982 (NL AL)
Steve Carlton+ * (PHI) 19
Dave Stieb (TOR) 19

1981 (NL AL)
Fernando Valenzuela * (LAD) 11
Rick Langford (OAK) 18

1980 (NL AL)
Steve Rogers (MON) 14
Rick Langford (OAK) 28

By: monkeypants

monkeypants — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 01:59:41 +0000

[226] Check out the year-by-year season leaders in CG–you still 20+ CG in the 1980s, I’m pretty sure.

By: monkeypants

monkeypants — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 01:58:40 +0000

[223] I’ve been going on a lot about pitcher usage lately (well, Phil Hughes usage), and it gotten me thinking about the manly men of yore and their complete games, etc. I can’t believe that no one has a study of how many pitches starters used to average. I tried to look at this myself, but the info on baseball-reference only goes back so far. I also figure for the real olde tymes we do not have super-accurate pitch totals, but surely they can be roughly approximated from play-by-play info?

My main question: do pitchers today, who demonstrably throw fewer innings per start, throw fewer, the same, or more pitches per start?

By: OldYanksFan

OldYanksFan — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 01:57:37 +0000

[223] That is almost too hard to believe. Are you sure? I mean WOW! I feel safe saying that’s one modern record that win never be broken! (I’m sure there’s some oldtimer from 1892 that pitched 1,627 innings with 57 complete games.)

By: monkeypants

monkeypants — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 01:54:38 +0000

[21] I think three scarecrows could have reached base against Ramirez this inning.

That’s good stuff.

New thread open.

By: Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO

Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 01:52:43 +0000

[220] Ah, right. Thanks! Cone in front of Congress..think he drops a choking the bishop reference or two?

By: Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO

Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 01:51:00 +0000

random factoid: in 1972 Steve Carlton threw 30 complete games. Thirty!!

By: ms october

ms october — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 01:47:54 +0000

[220] because sotomayor issued a ruling that helped end the strike in 94 and coney was very active in the mlbpa

By: ms october

ms october — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 01:46:52 +0000

[219] yeah i saw that. i think it is cool – without getting into politics at all either – just cool for coney to be there.

i didn’t see any of the yanks game today – just followed a tiny bit on gameday , so sorry i couldn’t step in for your riyank when you went somewhere.
and my cable has been out since i got home and was told at 7pm by twc that they *hope* to have it back within 4 hours – #$@%!!!

By: Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO

Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 01:43:32 +0000

[219] really? why is testifying?

By: RIYank

RIYank — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 01:41:28 +0000

The Royals just refuse to be walked. I guess that’s why they’re Royals, and not BoSox or Bombers. Well, that’s one reason. I think three scarecrows could have reached base against Ramirez this inning.

Did everyone see that David Cone is going to be on Capitol Hill next week? Testifying at the Sotomayor hearings?
I know we’re supposed to steer clear of politics. This is just a Coney remark, not a political remark.

By: RIYank

RIYank — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 01:34:41 +0000

Five pitches to Guillen, not one of them in the strike zone, but he’s swung at three. There’s one in the zone — foul tipped…

By: Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO

Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 01:29:56 +0000

RamRam in now for the Sox!

By: Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO

Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 01:25:22 +0000

[211] wow, just saw the score, only..i LOVE seeing the BoSox pen get knocked around..

By: RIYank

RIYank — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 01:25:19 +0000

Even if the Sox win, the embarrassment to their bullpen is extremely pleasurable. Del Carmen and Masterson coughed up four runs to arguably the weakest six-man section of any line-up in MLB.

Speaking of weak teams, anyone catch the little bit of Nats/Astros game earlier? They finished a mid-game postponement before their regular game, and it was kind of bizarre. The winning run was scored by a player (Nyjer Morgan) who was acquired in a trade for the winning pitcher (Joel Hanrahan).

By: Rich

Rich — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 01:21:04 +0000

Can we exchange Pena for Ransom? Please?

By: seamus

seamus — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 01:18:38 +0000

lots of time left to go in that game. but i like royals up by two better than sox up by two.

By: monkeypants

monkeypants — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 01:17:11 +0000

Indeed, I *did* speak too soon.

By: RIYank

RIYank — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 01:15:56 +0000

[209] Yeah, maybe, but Manny Del Carmen and Justin Masterson are getting shelled by the bottom of that line-up. Are you watching? It’s downright embarrassing.

By: monkeypants

monkeypants — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 01:15:11 +0000

Perhaps I speak too soon.