Comments on: Good Riddance http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/07/09/good-ridance/ Baseball Blog by Alex Belth about the Yankees Sat, 13 Mar 2010 07:04:12 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: FlyGirlFan http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/07/09/good-ridance/comment-page-4/#comment-222768 FlyGirlFan Fri, 10 Jul 2009 23:56:27 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=21440#comment-222768 [1] MLB should schedule more of the early season games in warm weather ballparks - Florida, Texas, SoCal, etc. Thats the answer to the new stadium for the Twins. [176] Agreed. Too bad there is an entire generation of kids in MN who don't even know that baseball was ever played outside in the Twin Cities. I remember going to the old Metropolitan Stadium as a young softball player. Now its a mall - thats even more wrong than the Dome. [1]
MLB should schedule more of the early season games in warm weather ballparks – Florida, Texas, SoCal, etc. Thats the answer to the new stadium for the Twins.
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Agreed.

Too bad there is an entire generation of kids in MN who don’t even know that baseball was ever played outside in the Twin Cities. I remember going to the old Metropolitan Stadium as a young softball player. Now its a mall – thats even more wrong than the Dome.

]]> By: rbj http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/07/09/good-ridance/comment-page-4/#comment-222675 rbj Fri, 10 Jul 2009 14:16:23 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=21440#comment-222675 The Homer Dome is still a better place than the Kingdome. The Homer Dome is still a better place than the Kingdome.

]]> By: monkeypants http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/07/09/good-ridance/comment-page-4/#comment-222672 monkeypants Fri, 10 Jul 2009 14:04:55 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=21440#comment-222672 [171] Shaun P. Thanks for the link. I am somewhat concerned that the formula is somewhat "circular", since it assumes the same constant for pitches per (estimated) plate appearance ( = 3.3 * PA). I suspect that with the increased emphasis on pitch counts, patience and walks, batters are going on average deeper into counts. But that's just a guess. Still, I may play around with this formula for the old days, at least to calculate the total (estimated) number of pitches thrown per game. Then I can compare that with more recent historical evidence (baseball-reference has the total pitch counts for the league going back into the 1980s, I think). My operating hypothesis is that there are more pitches thrown per game today than in the old days, but not enough to account for the many fewer innings thrown by starting pitchers. In other words, starting pitchers simply throw fewer pitches (which, I imagine, most of us suspected). [171] Shaun P.

Thanks for the link. I am somewhat concerned that the formula is somewhat “circular”, since it assumes the same constant for pitches per (estimated) plate appearance ( = 3.3 * PA). I suspect that with the increased emphasis on pitch counts, patience and walks, batters are going on average deeper into counts. But that’s just a guess.

Still, I may play around with this formula for the old days, at least to calculate the total (estimated) number of pitches thrown per game. Then I can compare that with more recent historical evidence (baseball-reference has the total pitch counts for the league going back into the 1980s, I think).

My operating hypothesis is that there are more pitches thrown per game today than in the old days, but not enough to account for the many fewer innings thrown by starting pitchers. In other words, starting pitchers simply throw fewer pitches (which, I imagine, most of us suspected).

]]> By: Raf http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/07/09/good-ridance/comment-page-4/#comment-222669 Raf Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:43:20 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=21440#comment-222669 [156] Try stubhub, then ticketmaster. No need to go to a scalper, there are more than enough alternatives. Not only that with scalpers you never know what you're going to get. It would suck to travel all that way and get shut out of a game because of a fake ticket, or for whatever other reason. [156] Try stubhub, then ticketmaster. No need to go to a scalper, there are more than enough alternatives. Not only that with scalpers you never know what you’re going to get. It would suck to travel all that way and get shut out of a game because of a fake ticket, or for whatever other reason.

]]> By: seamus http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/07/09/good-ridance/comment-page-4/#comment-222668 seamus Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:19:43 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=21440#comment-222668 this thread is longer than some game threads. just saying. [172] wow, are they recycling names in the minors now too? this thread is longer than some game threads. just saying.

[172] wow, are they recycling names in the minors now too?

]]> By: OldYanksFan http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/07/09/good-ridance/comment-page-4/#comment-222667 OldYanksFan Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:04:28 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=21440#comment-222667 Hat tip to Steve at WW: Baseball America: Top 25 Prospects 1. Jason Heyward, of, Braves 2. Mike Stanton, of, Marlins 3. <b>Jesus Montero, c, Yankees</b> 4. Justin Smoak, 1b, Rangers 5. Madison Bumgarner, lhp, Giants 6. Buster Posey, c, Giants 7. Carlos Santana, c, Indians 8. Chris Tillman, rhp, Orioles 9. Brian Matusz, lhp, Orioles 10. Logan Morrison, 1b, Marlins "If Montero could defend behind the plate—he threw out just eight of 64 basestealers in the high Class A Florida State (12.5 percent)—<b>he could rank first</b>. He has impressive barrel awareness and offensive upside for his age and experience level." (Bold mine) Any name there look familiar? Hat tip to Steve at WW:
Baseball America: Top 25 Prospects

1. Jason Heyward, of, Braves
2. Mike Stanton, of, Marlins
3. Jesus Montero, c, Yankees
4. Justin Smoak, 1b, Rangers
5. Madison Bumgarner, lhp, Giants
6. Buster Posey, c, Giants
7. Carlos Santana, c, Indians
8. Chris Tillman, rhp, Orioles
9. Brian Matusz, lhp, Orioles
10. Logan Morrison, 1b, Marlins

“If Montero could defend behind the plate—he threw out just eight of 64 basestealers in the high Class A Florida State (12.5 percent)—he could rank first. He has impressive barrel awareness and offensive upside for his age and experience level.”

(Bold mine)
Any name there look familiar?

]]> By: Shaun P. http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/07/09/good-ridance/comment-page-4/#comment-222666 Shaun P. Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:50:10 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=21440#comment-222666 Hey monkeypants - if you happen to catch this here let me know in whatever the morning's thread is - you asked, at some point last night, why someone hadn't done an estimation of pitch counts for like the 50s/60s/70s etc. I'm sure someone has, and a google search confirms I'm right - <a href="http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/what-pitch-counts-hath-wrought/" rel="nofollow">it was Tom Tango</a> (just follow the links in the linked article). Hey monkeypants – if you happen to catch this here let me know in whatever the morning’s thread is – you asked, at some point last night, why someone hadn’t done an estimation of pitch counts for like the 50s/60s/70s etc. I’m sure someone has, and a google search confirms I’m right – it was Tom Tango (just follow the links in the linked article).

]]> By: thelarmis http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/07/09/good-ridance/comment-page-4/#comment-222665 thelarmis Fri, 10 Jul 2009 07:14:09 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=21440#comment-222665 [168] exactly. i'm out, man. congrats and have a wonderful time with your lady! : ) see you here this weekend... [168] exactly.

i’m out, man. congrats and have a wonderful time with your lady! : )

see you here this weekend…

]]> By: thelarmis http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/07/09/good-ridance/comment-page-4/#comment-222664 thelarmis Fri, 10 Jul 2009 07:12:37 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=21440#comment-222664 [165] very cool! probably best to leave "real" names out of the posts, even if you know that person! i know a few of the folks here personally, but we *always* refer to each other by our "screen names". i think most prefer it that way, i know i do! no worries, this thread is pretty much done and there'll be new ones tomorrow morning. welcome back, Boatzilla - hope you'll stick around this time! [165] very cool! probably best to leave “real” names out of the posts, even if you know that person! i know a few of the folks here personally, but we *always* refer to each other by our “screen names”. i think most prefer it that way, i know i do!

no worries, this thread is pretty much done and there’ll be new ones tomorrow morning.

welcome back, Boatzilla – hope you’ll stick around this time!

]]> By: Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/07/09/good-ridance/comment-page-4/#comment-222663 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO Fri, 10 Jul 2009 07:11:41 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=21440#comment-222663 [164] Vlad's career stats are pretty amazing. .322 career BA, .958 OPS..he has a shot, but needs to rebound for a fewmore years.. [164] Vlad’s career stats are pretty amazing. .322 career BA, .958 OPS..he has a shot, but needs to rebound for a fewmore years..

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