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		<title>By: FlyGirlFan</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/07/09/good-ridance/#comment-190591</link>
		<dc:creator>FlyGirlFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 23:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[1]
MLB should schedule more of the early season games in warm weather ballparks - Florida, Texas, SoCal, etc.  Thats the answer to the new stadium for the Twins.  
[176]
Agreed.  

Too bad there is an entire generation of kids in MN who don&#039;t even know that baseball was ever played outside in the Twin Cities.  I remember going to the old Metropolitan Stadium as a young softball player.  Now its a mall - thats even more wrong than the Dome.</description>
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MLB should schedule more of the early season games in warm weather ballparks &#8211; Florida, Texas, SoCal, etc.  Thats the answer to the new stadium for the Twins.<br />
[176]<br />
Agreed.  </p>
<p>Too bad there is an entire generation of kids in MN who don&#8217;t even know that baseball was ever played outside in the Twin Cities.  I remember going to the old Metropolitan Stadium as a young softball player.  Now its a mall &#8211; thats even more wrong than the Dome.</p>
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		<title>By: rbj</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 14:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Homer Dome is still a better place than the Kingdome.</description>
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		<title>By: monkeypants</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/07/09/good-ridance/#comment-190589</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 14:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[171] Shaun P.

Thanks for the link.  I am somewhat concerned that the formula is somewhat &quot;circular&quot;, since it assumes the same constant for pitches per (estimated) plate appearance ( = 3.3 * PA).  I suspect that with the increased emphasis on pitch counts, patience and walks, batters are going on average deeper into counts.  But that&#039;s just a guess.

Still, I may play around with this formula for the old days, at least to calculate the total (estimated) number of pitches thrown per game.  Then I can compare that with more recent historical evidence (baseball-reference has the total pitch counts for the league going back into the 1980s, I think).

My operating hypothesis is that there are more pitches thrown per game today than in the old days, but not enough to account for the many fewer innings thrown by starting pitchers. In other words, starting pitchers simply throw fewer pitches (which, I imagine, most of us suspected).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[171] Shaun P.</p>
<p>Thanks for the link.  I am somewhat concerned that the formula is somewhat &#8220;circular&#8221;, since it assumes the same constant for pitches per (estimated) plate appearance ( = 3.3 * PA).  I suspect that with the increased emphasis on pitch counts, patience and walks, batters are going on average deeper into counts.  But that&#8217;s just a guess.</p>
<p>Still, I may play around with this formula for the old days, at least to calculate the total (estimated) number of pitches thrown per game.  Then I can compare that with more recent historical evidence (baseball-reference has the total pitch counts for the league going back into the 1980s, I think).</p>
<p>My operating hypothesis is that there are more pitches thrown per game today than in the old days, but not enough to account for the many fewer innings thrown by starting pitchers. In other words, starting pitchers simply throw fewer pitches (which, I imagine, most of us suspected).</p>
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		<title>By: Raf</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/07/09/good-ridance/#comment-190588</link>
		<dc:creator>Raf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[156] Try stubhub, then ticketmaster.  No need to go to a scalper, there are more than enough alternatives.  Not only that with scalpers you never know what you&#039;re going to get.  It would suck to travel all that way and get shut out of a game because of a fake ticket, or for whatever other reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[156] Try stubhub, then ticketmaster.  No need to go to a scalper, there are more than enough alternatives.  Not only that with scalpers you never know what you&#8217;re going to get.  It would suck to travel all that way and get shut out of a game because of a fake ticket, or for whatever other reason.</p>
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		<title>By: seamus</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/07/09/good-ridance/#comment-190587</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this thread is longer than some game threads.  just saying.  

[172] wow, are they recycling names in the minors now too?</description>
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<p>[172] wow, are they recycling names in the minors now too?</p>
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		<title>By: OldYanksFan</title>
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		<dc:creator>OldYanksFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hat tip to Steve at WW:
Baseball America: Top 25 Prospects

1. Jason Heyward, of, Braves
2. Mike Stanton, of, Marlins
3. &lt;b&gt;Jesus Montero, c, Yankees&lt;/b&gt;
4. Justin Smoak, 1b, Rangers
5. Madison Bumgarner, lhp, Giants
6. Buster Posey, c, Giants
7. Carlos Santana, c, Indians
8. Chris Tillman, rhp, Orioles
9. Brian Matusz, lhp, Orioles
10. Logan Morrison, 1b, Marlins

&quot;If Montero could defend behind the plate—he threw out just eight of 64 basestealers in the high Class A Florida State (12.5 percent)—&lt;b&gt;he could rank first&lt;/b&gt;. He has impressive barrel awareness and offensive upside for his age and experience level.&quot;

(Bold mine)
Any name there look familiar?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hat tip to Steve at WW:<br />
Baseball America: Top 25 Prospects</p>
<p>1. Jason Heyward, of, Braves<br />
2. Mike Stanton, of, Marlins<br />
3. <b>Jesus Montero, c, Yankees</b><br />
4. Justin Smoak, 1b, Rangers<br />
5. Madison Bumgarner, lhp, Giants<br />
6. Buster Posey, c, Giants<br />
7. Carlos Santana, c, Indians<br />
8. Chris Tillman, rhp, Orioles<br />
9. Brian Matusz, lhp, Orioles<br />
10. Logan Morrison, 1b, Marlins</p>
<p>&#8220;If Montero could defend behind the plate—he threw out just eight of 64 basestealers in the high Class A Florida State (12.5 percent)—<b>he could rank first</b>. He has impressive barrel awareness and offensive upside for his age and experience level.&#8221;</p>
<p>(Bold mine)<br />
Any name there look familiar?</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun P.</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey monkeypants - if you happen to catch this here let me know in whatever the morning&#039;s thread is - you asked, at some point last night, why someone hadn&#039;t done an estimation of pitch counts for like the 50s/60s/70s etc.  I&#039;m sure someone has, and a google search confirms I&#039;m right - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/what-pitch-counts-hath-wrought/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;it was Tom Tango&lt;/a&gt; (just follow the links in the linked article).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey monkeypants &#8211; if you happen to catch this here let me know in whatever the morning&#8217;s thread is &#8211; you asked, at some point last night, why someone hadn&#8217;t done an estimation of pitch counts for like the 50s/60s/70s etc.  I&#8217;m sure someone has, and a google search confirms I&#8217;m right &#8211; <a href="http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/what-pitch-counts-hath-wrought/" rel="nofollow">it was Tom Tango</a> (just follow the links in the linked article).</p>
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		<title>By: thelarmis</title>
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		<dc:creator>thelarmis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 07:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[168] exactly.

i&#039;m out, man. congrats and have a wonderful time with your lady! : )

see you here this weekend...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[168] exactly.</p>
<p>i&#8217;m out, man. congrats and have a wonderful time with your lady! : )</p>
<p>see you here this weekend&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: thelarmis</title>
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		<dc:creator>thelarmis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 07:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[165] very cool! probably best to leave &quot;real&quot; names out of the posts, even if you know that person! i know a few of the folks here personally, but we *always* refer to each other by our &quot;screen names&quot;. i think most prefer it that way, i know i do!

no worries, this thread is pretty much done and there&#039;ll be new ones tomorrow morning.

welcome back, Boatzilla - hope you&#039;ll stick around this time!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[165] very cool! probably best to leave &#8220;real&#8221; names out of the posts, even if you know that person! i know a few of the folks here personally, but we *always* refer to each other by our &#8220;screen names&#8221;. i think most prefer it that way, i know i do!</p>
<p>no worries, this thread is pretty much done and there&#8217;ll be new ones tomorrow morning.</p>
<p>welcome back, Boatzilla &#8211; hope you&#8217;ll stick around this time!</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 07:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[164] Vlad&#039;s career stats are pretty amazing. .322 career BA, .958 OPS..he has a shot, but needs to rebound for a fewmore years..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[164] Vlad&#8217;s career stats are pretty amazing. .322 career BA, .958 OPS..he has a shot, but needs to rebound for a fewmore years..</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 07:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[166] Thanks, man! See you soon..</description>
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		<title>By: Boatzilla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boatzilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 07:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happy Anniversary James!</description>
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		<title>By: Boatzilla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boatzilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 07:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the heads up on traffic, etc. thelarmis. I have been lurking for a couple of years and used to be known as TokyoTom, but my registration expired or something. So I just re-registered.  And I have dined with the esteemed Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO.  I&#039;m sorry, thelarmis, but forgot how to refer to another quote (yours) as well. .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the heads up on traffic, etc. thelarmis. I have been lurking for a couple of years and used to be known as TokyoTom, but my registration expired or something. So I just re-registered.  And I have dined with the esteemed Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO.  I&#8217;m sorry, thelarmis, but forgot how to refer to another quote (yours) as well. .</p>
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		<title>By: thelarmis</title>
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		<dc:creator>thelarmis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 07:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah man, we really have NO idea what these guys do behind closed doors. or in the offseason. or anywhere outside the playing field and dugout, really... 

Vlad was on the fast track to the HOF. i wonder how that&#039;ll shake out with all his injuries. his contact is up, i believe. who knows how much more he has in the tank. by all accounts, he&#039;s been clean...

so, who is Boatzilla?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah man, we really have NO idea what these guys do behind closed doors. or in the offseason. or anywhere outside the playing field and dugout, really&#8230; </p>
<p>Vlad was on the fast track to the HOF. i wonder how that&#8217;ll shake out with all his injuries. his contact is up, i believe. who knows how much more he has in the tank. by all accounts, he&#8217;s been clean&#8230;</p>
<p>so, who is Boatzilla?</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 07:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[162] Thanks a lot man!

Oh no..that really ruins my Vlad love..I have no patience for guys who do that, even if he has millions to support them..from all accounts though Vlad is a pretty simple guy, &quot;see ball - hit ball&quot;, etc..

Angels don&#039;t scare me at all, let&#039;s dice up that rally monkey and sweep them!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[162] Thanks a lot man!</p>
<p>Oh no..that really ruins my Vlad love..I have no patience for guys who do that, even if he has millions to support them..from all accounts though Vlad is a pretty simple guy, &#8220;see ball &#8211; hit ball&#8221;, etc..</p>
<p>Angels don&#8217;t scare me at all, let&#8217;s dice up that rally monkey and sweep them!</p>
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		<title>By: thelarmis</title>
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		<dc:creator>thelarmis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 06:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[161] awesome, man! HAPPY ANNIVERSARY!!! 

i dig Vlad, too. read some weird thing - he has like 6 kids...with 6 different moms. yet, he lives in Cali with his own mother. really strange! 

have fun, bro!

Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[161] awesome, man! HAPPY ANNIVERSARY!!! </p>
<p>i dig Vlad, too. read some weird thing &#8211; he has like 6 kids&#8230;with 6 different moms. yet, he lives in Cali with his own mother. really strange! </p>
<p>have fun, bro!</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 06:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[159] Not long now...me and the missus out for our anniversary! 

Looking forward to a sweep of the Angels, but no Vlad sucks..love watching him hit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[159] Not long now&#8230;me and the missus out for our anniversary! </p>
<p>Looking forward to a sweep of the Angels, but no Vlad sucks..love watching him hit.</p>
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		<title>By: thelarmis</title>
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		<dc:creator>thelarmis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 06:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[157] who is it?</description>
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		<title>By: thelarmis</title>
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		<dc:creator>thelarmis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 06:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[157] great minds &lt;i&gt;drink&lt;/i&gt; alike! i&#039;m done with my beer; i pass the baton to YOU!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[157] great minds <i>drink</i> alike! i&#8217;m done with my beer; i pass the baton to YOU!!!</p>
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		<title>By: thelarmis</title>
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		<dc:creator>thelarmis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 06:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[156] sorry i can&#039;t help you, but... just a head&#039;s up...

this thread may not get too much traffic tomorrow, so you might wanna re-post this on Diane&#039;s News Of The Day, or something. you&#039;ll get some *excellent* guidance, no doubt! 

travel safely and have fun at the Stadium! : )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[156] sorry i can&#8217;t help you, but&#8230; just a head&#8217;s up&#8230;</p>
<p>this thread may not get too much traffic tomorrow, so you might wanna re-post this on Diane&#8217;s News Of The Day, or something. you&#8217;ll get some *excellent* guidance, no doubt! </p>
<p>travel safely and have fun at the Stadium! : )</p>
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