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		<title>By: Raf</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/07/16/straight-as-in-love/comment-page-1/#comment-223987</link>
		<dc:creator>Raf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 02:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Right. Because the farm system was utterly barren by ‘89. There were no kids to call up.&lt;/b&gt;

Dave Eiland, Kevin Mmahat, Al Leiter among others got the call.

FWIW, I was including the dynasty years as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Right. Because the farm system was utterly barren by ‘89. There were no kids to call up.</b></p>
<p>Dave Eiland, Kevin Mmahat, Al Leiter among others got the call.</p>
<p>FWIW, I was including the dynasty years as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Cliff Corcoran</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/07/16/straight-as-in-love/comment-page-1/#comment-223984</link>
		<dc:creator>Cliff Corcoran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 00:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right. Because the farm system was utterly barren by &#039;89. There were no kids to call up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right. Because the farm system was utterly barren by &#8217;89. There were no kids to call up.</p>
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		<title>By: Raf</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/07/16/straight-as-in-love/comment-page-1/#comment-223972</link>
		<dc:creator>Raf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;During a decade in which MLB owners engaged in collusion, which forced even a free spending owner like George to forbear on making an offer to Jack Morris as a FA at a time when he might have put the Yankees over the top, and even after that period of collusion, when Mark Langston turned down the Yankees because he didn’t want to play in NY&lt;/b&gt;

FA is but one way to acquire a player, and collusion didn&#039;t stop Steinbrenner from acquiring Jack Clark.  And even if Langston didn&#039;t want to come to NY, they still wound up with Pascual Perez joining Hawkins and LaPoint who were acquired the offseason prior.  Tim Leary was brought in as well.

&lt;b&gt;the most viable option was to develop a farm system to supply a sufficient number of quality pitchers that would have enabled them to have the best chance to win championships because quality free agents options were so limited&lt;/b&gt;

Looking at the Yankees pitching staffs from 89 on it&#039;s not unreasonable to say that a majority of the arms came from outside the organization either through FA or trade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>During a decade in which MLB owners engaged in collusion, which forced even a free spending owner like George to forbear on making an offer to Jack Morris as a FA at a time when he might have put the Yankees over the top, and even after that period of collusion, when Mark Langston turned down the Yankees because he didn’t want to play in NY</b></p>
<p>FA is but one way to acquire a player, and collusion didn&#8217;t stop Steinbrenner from acquiring Jack Clark.  And even if Langston didn&#8217;t want to come to NY, they still wound up with Pascual Perez joining Hawkins and LaPoint who were acquired the offseason prior.  Tim Leary was brought in as well.</p>
<p><b>the most viable option was to develop a farm system to supply a sufficient number of quality pitchers that would have enabled them to have the best chance to win championships because quality free agents options were so limited</b></p>
<p>Looking at the Yankees pitching staffs from 89 on it&#8217;s not unreasonable to say that a majority of the arms came from outside the organization either through FA or trade.</p>
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		<title>By: monkeypants</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/07/16/straight-as-in-love/comment-page-1/#comment-223967</link>
		<dc:creator>monkeypants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[32] No problem.  I&#039;m pretty sure I messed up an html tag.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[32] No problem.  I&#8217;m pretty sure I messed up an html tag.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/07/16/straight-as-in-love/comment-page-1/#comment-223966</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find that if I put in too many links, my post disappears, but maybe I had left a tag open and was unaware of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find that if I put in too many links, my post disappears, but maybe I had left a tag open and was unaware of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Belth</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/07/16/straight-as-in-love/comment-page-1/#comment-223964</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Belth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MonkeyP,

Shoot, not sure why that happened. Let us know if the problem continues...

Sorry about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MonkeyP,</p>
<p>Shoot, not sure why that happened. Let us know if the problem continues&#8230;</p>
<p>Sorry about that.</p>
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		<title>By: OldYanksFan</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/07/16/straight-as-in-love/comment-page-1/#comment-223963</link>
		<dc:creator>OldYanksFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I certainly don&#039;t want Wells contract, but if we HAVE to give up something, money is our strength. When looking at dealing our kids, you have to look at their possible future worth. Since we are in a depression, and the kids are here to a few years away, lets use 2007 dollars.

.... Ted Lilly, a #3/#4 was looking for $10m/yr.
So in comparison, what&#039;s Phil worth?
So in comparison, what&#039;s Joba worth?

.... A decent hitting OFer costs what? $10m? Well above average? $14m? A stud, about $16-$20m? (think Jason Bay)
So in comparison, what&#039;s AJax worth?

... An .850 - .900 OPS guy at any position....$15m?
So in comparison, what&#039;s Montero worth?

Again, this is all if,if,if,if... but... just sayin&#039;.
So if taking on Well&#039;s contract saves 2 of these guys, it&#039;s not as expensive as one might think. Plus with Wells, you can get some value by trading Brett/Melky.

Like Hoss, I&#039;m not sating I&#039;m for it, just examining the ramifications.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I certainly don&#8217;t want Wells contract, but if we HAVE to give up something, money is our strength. When looking at dealing our kids, you have to look at their possible future worth. Since we are in a depression, and the kids are here to a few years away, lets use 2007 dollars.</p>
<p>&#8230;. Ted Lilly, a #3/#4 was looking for $10m/yr.<br />
So in comparison, what&#8217;s Phil worth?<br />
So in comparison, what&#8217;s Joba worth?</p>
<p>&#8230;. A decent hitting OFer costs what? $10m? Well above average? $14m? A stud, about $16-$20m? (think Jason Bay)<br />
So in comparison, what&#8217;s AJax worth?</p>
<p>&#8230; An .850 &#8211; .900 OPS guy at any position&#8230;.$15m?<br />
So in comparison, what&#8217;s Montero worth?</p>
<p>Again, this is all if,if,if,if&#8230; but&#8230; just sayin&#8217;.<br />
So if taking on Well&#8217;s contract saves 2 of these guys, it&#8217;s not as expensive as one might think. Plus with Wells, you can get some value by trading Brett/Melky.</p>
<p>Like Hoss, I&#8217;m not sating I&#8217;m for it, just examining the ramifications.</p>
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		<title>By: monkeypants</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/07/16/straight-as-in-love/comment-page-1/#comment-223962</link>
		<dc:creator>monkeypants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[298][29]

Aha, I found the problem--I left a tag open.</description>
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<p>Aha, I found the problem&#8211;I left a tag open.</p>
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		<title>By: monkeypants</title>
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		<dc:creator>monkeypants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[27] &lt;i&gt;I still think Montero will be a catcher.&lt;/i&gt;

I agree with you, at for the start of his career.  Despite what the naysayers say (which would be, presumably, &quot;nay&quot;), the Yankees have an enormous interest in keeping him at C.  If he shows even minimal competence at the position (i.e., PIazza quality), they&#039;ll leave him back there, at least for the time being.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[27] <i>I still think Montero will be a catcher.</i></p>
<p>I agree with you, at for the start of his career.  Despite what the naysayers say (which would be, presumably, &#8220;nay&#8221;), the Yankees have an enormous interest in keeping him at C.  If he shows even minimal competence at the position (i.e., PIazza quality), they&#8217;ll leave him back there, at least for the time being.</p>
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		<title>By: monkeypants</title>
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		<dc:creator>monkeypants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm...

Alex or Cliff or someone, my last two comments appear to have disappeared after I hit &quot;submit.&quot;

Maybe that&#039;s for the best?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230;</p>
<p>Alex or Cliff or someone, my last two comments appear to have disappeared after I hit &#8220;submit.&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe that&#8217;s for the best?</p>
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