Comments on: Observations From Cooperstown: Robertson, Pena, Fast Yankees, and Munson http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/08/21/observations-from-cooperstown-robertson-pena-fast-yankees-and-munson/ Development site for Bronx Banter Blog's upcoming look and feel Tue, 21 May 2013 16:22:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: RIYank http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/08/21/observations-from-cooperstown-robertson-pena-fast-yankees-and-munson/#comment-206075 RIYank Fri, 21 Aug 2009 22:18:18 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=23052#comment-206075 [23] Exactly -- some significant add. by sub. was predictable, and though it wasn't predictable that Hughes would be in the bullpen, it was quite predictable that the bullpen would be better than it was at the beginning of the season. [23] Exactly — some significant add. by sub. was predictable, and though it wasn’t predictable that Hughes would be in the bullpen, it was quite predictable that the bullpen would be better than it was at the beginning of the season.

]]> By: Cliff Corcoran http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/08/21/observations-from-cooperstown-robertson-pena-fast-yankees-and-munson/#comment-206074 Cliff Corcoran Fri, 21 Aug 2009 21:06:30 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=23052#comment-206074 [21] for what it's worth, I predicted that Veras and Edwar would be gone by May in my camper's post, and I had Robertson as one of the replacements (though no one saw Hughes coming). [22] Yes, but no catchers rule means . . . Giambi? [21] for what it’s worth, I predicted that Veras and Edwar would be gone by May in my camper’s post, and I had Robertson as one of the replacements (though no one saw Hughes coming).

[22] Yes, but no catchers rule means . . . Giambi?

]]> By: boslaw http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/08/21/observations-from-cooperstown-robertson-pena-fast-yankees-and-munson/#comment-206073 boslaw Fri, 21 Aug 2009 20:54:44 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=23052#comment-206073 isn't molina the slowest yankee ever? isn’t molina the slowest yankee ever?

]]> By: The Hawk http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/08/21/observations-from-cooperstown-robertson-pena-fast-yankees-and-munson/#comment-206072 The Hawk Fri, 21 Aug 2009 20:46:33 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=23052#comment-206072 I think it's a bit of a post ipso facto argument to say those who doubted the bullpen were "dead wrong" ... The biggest difference has been Phil Hughes, and some major addition by subtraction. At the time, the bullpen did not look good, and that changed because the bullpen changed. I think it’s a bit of a post ipso facto argument to say those who doubted the bullpen were “dead wrong” … The biggest difference has been Phil Hughes, and some major addition by subtraction. At the time, the bullpen did not look good, and that changed because the bullpen changed.

]]> By: Mattpat11 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/08/21/observations-from-cooperstown-robertson-pena-fast-yankees-and-munson/#comment-206071 Mattpat11 Fri, 21 Aug 2009 20:39:39 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=23052#comment-206071 Aw hell, Marte is back. So is that headache. Having two lefties in the pen scares the hell out of me, because I think it will start the stupid over managing even earlier in the game. Aw hell, Marte is back. So is that headache. Having two lefties in the pen scares the hell out of me, because I think it will start the stupid over managing even earlier in the game.

]]> By: RagingTartabull http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/08/21/observations-from-cooperstown-robertson-pena-fast-yankees-and-munson/#comment-206070 RagingTartabull Fri, 21 Aug 2009 20:26:43 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=23052#comment-206070 oh man, thats a much better conversation...SLOWEST guys, players who were hobbled by injury don't count though. You have to have a natural God-given lack of speed. Also, no catchers...thats too easy. it would be pretty hard to top Chili in my opinion. oh man, thats a much better conversation…SLOWEST guys, players who were hobbled by injury don’t count though. You have to have a natural God-given lack of speed. Also, no catchers…thats too easy.

it would be pretty hard to top Chili in my opinion.

]]> By: Sliced Bread http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/08/21/observations-from-cooperstown-robertson-pena-fast-yankees-and-munson/#comment-206069 Sliced Bread Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:54:44 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=23052#comment-206069 on the flipside, I remember Glenallen Hill made Posada look like Usain Bolt. on the flipside, I remember Glenallen Hill made Posada look like Usain Bolt.

]]> By: Sliced Bread http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/08/21/observations-from-cooperstown-robertson-pena-fast-yankees-and-munson/#comment-206068 Sliced Bread Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:46:09 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=23052#comment-206068 [16] true but when you're named Bubba everyone automatically thinks yer slow. [16] true but when you’re named Bubba everyone automatically thinks yer slow.

]]> By: RagingTartabull http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/08/21/observations-from-cooperstown-robertson-pena-fast-yankees-and-munson/#comment-206067 RagingTartabull Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:42:31 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=23052#comment-206067 Bubba Crosby was pretty damn fast Bubba Crosby was pretty damn fast

]]> By: Start Spreading the News http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/08/21/observations-from-cooperstown-robertson-pena-fast-yankees-and-munson/#comment-206066 Start Spreading the News Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:40:27 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=23052#comment-206066 [13] MP, you stole my thunder faster than Deion would have gone from first to third! [13] MP, you stole my thunder faster than Deion would have gone from first to third!

]]> By: Start Spreading the News http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/08/21/observations-from-cooperstown-robertson-pena-fast-yankees-and-munson/#comment-206065 Start Spreading the News Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:39:45 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=23052#comment-206065 I think that Deion Sanders would have to be the fastest Yankee I have watched. I think that Deion Sanders would have to be the fastest Yankee I have watched.

]]> By: monkeypants http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/08/21/observations-from-cooperstown-robertson-pena-fast-yankees-and-munson/#comment-206064 monkeypants Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:38:02 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=23052#comment-206064 [0] Fastest Yankee: Deion Sanders? [0] Fastest Yankee:

Deion Sanders?

]]> By: monkeypants http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/08/21/observations-from-cooperstown-robertson-pena-fast-yankees-and-munson/#comment-206063 monkeypants Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:37:42 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=23052#comment-206063 [1] <i>and while i am generally opposed to a 12 man pitching staff, it makes some sense when we’re limiting joba’s innings.</i> It is rumored that the Yankees will go to a 13 man staff when (if) Marte returns, rather than demote another reliever or "risk" "losing" Mitre. [1] and while i am generally opposed to a 12 man pitching staff, it makes some sense when we’re limiting joba’s innings.

It is rumored that the Yankees will go to a 13 man staff when (if) Marte returns, rather than demote another reliever or “risk” “losing” Mitre.

]]> By: Raf http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/08/21/observations-from-cooperstown-robertson-pena-fast-yankees-and-munson/#comment-206062 Raf Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:08:09 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=23052#comment-206062 I was more surprised than anything that Cashman was able to get something of value for Womack I was more surprised than anything that Cashman was able to get something of value for Womack

]]> By: Sliced Bread http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/08/21/observations-from-cooperstown-robertson-pena-fast-yankees-and-munson/#comment-206061 Sliced Bread Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:00:52 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=23052#comment-206061 [8] yankee stadium on peds... peformance enhancing designs re: womack. i have no recollection of him ever playing. I know he did, but I have no mental image of him in a Yankee uniform. He's so fast I've forgotten he was here. [8] yankee stadium on peds… peformance enhancing designs

re: womack. i have no recollection of him ever playing. I know he did, but I have no mental image of him in a Yankee uniform. He’s so fast I’ve forgotten he was here.

]]> By: Shaun P. http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/08/21/observations-from-cooperstown-robertson-pena-fast-yankees-and-munson/#comment-206060 Shaun P. Fri, 21 Aug 2009 18:51:50 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=23052#comment-206060 Let us note that Melky (11 HR) could pass Manny anytime now. Can you imagine what would have been said if we could send that back in time? Let us note that Melky (11 HR) could pass Manny anytime now.

Can you imagine what would have been said if we could send that back in time?

]]> By: ms october http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/08/21/observations-from-cooperstown-robertson-pena-fast-yankees-and-munson/#comment-206059 ms october Fri, 21 Aug 2009 18:49:22 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=23052#comment-206059 [7] haha i thought about tony womack too but wasn't brave enough to post it. oh and in mattpat's defense - how could he have predicted manny would be supended for peds and yankee stadium would be on peds :} i really like robertson myself - the high walk rate is sometimes maddening (especially when you are at an extra innings game and it is hot as hell and you are crazy late for a bbq - i really wanted to kick him on july 4th), but that strike out rate is pretty amazing and that is a pretty valuable weapon in the pen. and yes bruce, his curve his nasty. [7] haha i thought about tony womack too but wasn’t brave enough to post it.

oh and in mattpat’s defense – how could he have predicted manny would be supended for peds and yankee stadium would be on peds :}

i really like robertson myself – the high walk rate is sometimes maddening (especially when you are at an extra innings game and it is hot as hell and you are crazy late for a bbq – i really wanted to kick him on july 4th), but that strike out rate is pretty amazing and that is a pretty valuable weapon in the pen.
and yes bruce, his curve his nasty.

]]> By: Cliff Corcoran http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/08/21/observations-from-cooperstown-robertson-pena-fast-yankees-and-munson/#comment-206058 Cliff Corcoran Fri, 21 Aug 2009 18:41:52 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=23052#comment-206058 Yay me! (on Robertson). I hate to say it, but Tony Womack really was fast. Finally, the above praise of my analysis of Robertson prompted me to check out my campers post from the sidebar, which led me to this: <blockquote>4. Mattpat11 February 13th, 2009 at 3:12 pm Early pool. Who hits more homeruns next year? Manny Ramirez or the Yankees outfield?</blockquote> Current count: Manny 13, Yanks OF 59. Unless, Mattpat meant 2010 when he said "next year" Yay me! (on Robertson).

I hate to say it, but Tony Womack really was fast.

Finally, the above praise of my analysis of Robertson prompted me to check out my campers post from the sidebar, which led me to this:

4. Mattpat11
February 13th, 2009 at 3:12 pm

Early pool. Who hits more homeruns next year? Manny Ramirez or the Yankees outfield?

Current count: Manny 13, Yanks OF 59.

Unless, Mattpat meant 2010 when he said “next year”

]]> By: Alex Belth http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/08/21/observations-from-cooperstown-robertson-pena-fast-yankees-and-munson/#comment-206057 Alex Belth Fri, 21 Aug 2009 18:35:58 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=23052#comment-206057 Cliff Johnson wasn't the fatest? Cliff Johnson wasn’t the fatest?

]]> By: TheGreenMan http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/08/21/observations-from-cooperstown-robertson-pena-fast-yankees-and-munson/#comment-206056 TheGreenMan Fri, 21 Aug 2009 18:23:56 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=23052#comment-206056 It was a long time ago and he wasn't very good with the Yankees, but in 1982 they had Dave Collins on the team. He only stole 13 bases that year as a 4th OFer, but two years before he stole 79 with the Reds and two years after he stole 60 with the Blue Jays. Dave Collins was faaaaaaast! It was a long time ago and he wasn’t very good with the Yankees, but in 1982 they had Dave Collins on the team. He only stole 13 bases that year as a 4th OFer, but two years before he stole 79 with the Reds and two years after he stole 60 with the Blue Jays.

Dave Collins was faaaaaaast!

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