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		<title>By: Rich</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/08/28/is-it-still-raining-i-hadnt-noticed/#comment-209448</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 15:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eiland finally fixed someone? Sweet.</description>
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		<title>By: Cliff Corcoran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cliff Corcoran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 15:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[20] Bernie was quiet, but he wasn&#039;t above styling every now and then. My favorite was the way he&#039;d do a spin when popping out of a slide across home plate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[20] Bernie was quiet, but he wasn&#8217;t above styling every now and then. My favorite was the way he&#8217;d do a spin when popping out of a slide across home plate.</p>
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		<title>By: The Hawk</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Hawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 14:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[16] Ha, I do not see Cano&#039;s act last night as a sigh of relief - there was nothing that humble about it. 

I don&#039;t think it&#039;s a big deal either, I just don&#039;t like it. To each his or her own. Fwiw, I don&#039;t really think a comparison to Ruth is apt here; different social norms for different times. I think the most appealing move there is to just put your head down and round the bases - there&#039;s plenty of celebration to be had at home plate. 

I think A Rod&#039;s home run shenanigans are about the most I can take. He sometimes admires them, but usually gets moving pretty quickly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[16] Ha, I do not see Cano&#8217;s act last night as a sigh of relief &#8211; there was nothing that humble about it. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a big deal either, I just don&#8217;t like it. To each his or her own. Fwiw, I don&#8217;t really think a comparison to Ruth is apt here; different social norms for different times. I think the most appealing move there is to just put your head down and round the bases &#8211; there&#8217;s plenty of celebration to be had at home plate. </p>
<p>I think A Rod&#8217;s home run shenanigans are about the most I can take. He sometimes admires them, but usually gets moving pretty quickly.</p>
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		<title>By: Sliced Bread</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sliced Bread</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 14:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[16] yeah, not everybody has to be like Willie or Donnie who were my baseball role models.  And to be fair to Robbie, his momentary pose was also a big sigh of relief for him having struggled with runners on.  I wouldn&#039;t make too big a deal about it (unless I already have), I just prefer my players to go about their business in a more modest and humble way.  Willie, Donnie, Bernie.  Those are the kinda players I admire most.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[16] yeah, not everybody has to be like Willie or Donnie who were my baseball role models.  And to be fair to Robbie, his momentary pose was also a big sigh of relief for him having struggled with runners on.  I wouldn&#8217;t make too big a deal about it (unless I already have), I just prefer my players to go about their business in a more modest and humble way.  Willie, Donnie, Bernie.  Those are the kinda players I admire most.</p>
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		<title>By: RIYank</title>
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		<dc:creator>RIYank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 14:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess if a batter looked at the pitcher, pointed at him, and said something, that would be very tacky. Standing there for a few seconds or doing a slow trot, to me that seems like a matter of individual style. And if a player is kind of childish, that doesn&#039;t bother me a lot. Yes, Robinson Cano is somewhat immature. I can definitely live with that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess if a batter looked at the pitcher, pointed at him, and said something, that would be very tacky. Standing there for a few seconds or doing a slow trot, to me that seems like a matter of individual style. And if a player is kind of childish, that doesn&#8217;t bother me a lot. Yes, Robinson Cano is somewhat immature. I can definitely live with that.</p>
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		<title>By: jjmerlock</title>
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		<dc:creator>jjmerlock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 14:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[12] I do agree that there&#039;s a difference between showboating on a walkoff and showboating in the middle of the game. The walkoff is, after all, a dramatic moment unto itself. 

As I posted last night, there&#039;s more about Robbie that&#039;s been reminding me of Manny for a long time. The absurd plate coverage, the beautiful swing, the ability to matchup against *any* pitcher at any speed. Of course, he&#039;s not nearly as consistent as Manny was, doesn&#039;t have as much power (that&#039;s why he&#039;s mini-Manny), hasn&#039;t reached the level of being utterly impossible to pitch to - gotta get that kid some PEDs!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[12] I do agree that there&#8217;s a difference between showboating on a walkoff and showboating in the middle of the game. The walkoff is, after all, a dramatic moment unto itself. </p>
<p>As I posted last night, there&#8217;s more about Robbie that&#8217;s been reminding me of Manny for a long time. The absurd plate coverage, the beautiful swing, the ability to matchup against *any* pitcher at any speed. Of course, he&#8217;s not nearly as consistent as Manny was, doesn&#8217;t have as much power (that&#8217;s why he&#8217;s mini-Manny), hasn&#8217;t reached the level of being utterly impossible to pitch to &#8211; gotta get that kid some PEDs!</p>
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		<title>By: monkeypants</title>
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		<dc:creator>monkeypants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 14:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[16] I&#039;m bothered inasmuch as I think it is unsportsmanlike. While I would never want to see the league try to legislate sportsmanlike behavior (and in baseball, how could they do that?  What would be the penalty?  Could the umpires be trusted to enforce it?), I would like to think that the players could take it upon themselves to curb such behavior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[16] I&#8217;m bothered inasmuch as I think it is unsportsmanlike. While I would never want to see the league try to legislate sportsmanlike behavior (and in baseball, how could they do that?  What would be the penalty?  Could the umpires be trusted to enforce it?), I would like to think that the players could take it upon themselves to curb such behavior.</p>
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		<title>By: RIYank</title>
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		<dc:creator>RIYank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 14:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[15] Precisely.
I don&#039;t really care about the whole styling aspect of baseball. If it causes some opposing pitchers to throw fastballs at Robinson&#039;s butt, then I&#039;ll be unhappy, but otherwise I&#039;m perfectly happy to let each guy choose his own style.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[15] Precisely.<br />
I don&#8217;t really care about the whole styling aspect of baseball. If it causes some opposing pitchers to throw fastballs at Robinson&#8217;s butt, then I&#8217;ll be unhappy, but otherwise I&#8217;m perfectly happy to let each guy choose his own style.</p>
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		<title>By: Sliced Bread</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sliced Bread</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 14:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[13] Jim Rice would not approve.</description>
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		<title>By: Sliced Bread</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/08/28/is-it-still-raining-i-hadnt-noticed/#comment-209439</link>
		<dc:creator>Sliced Bread</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 13:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[12] there&#039;s a fine line between hamming it up with a tip of the cap, or pump of the fist -- and posing like a jackass.  To me, Robbie crossed to the wrong side of that line.  I love the kid, but I&#039;d say something to him about it, which he could, of course, ignore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[12] there&#8217;s a fine line between hamming it up with a tip of the cap, or pump of the fist &#8212; and posing like a jackass.  To me, Robbie crossed to the wrong side of that line.  I love the kid, but I&#8217;d say something to him about it, which he could, of course, ignore.</p>
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		<title>By: monkeypants</title>
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		<dc:creator>monkeypants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 13:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[12] Funny image passed through my head: the Babe with dreadlocks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[12] Funny image passed through my head: the Babe with dreadlocks.</p>
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		<title>By: williamnyy23</title>
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		<dc:creator>williamnyy23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 13:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On a walkoff I don&#039;t think there is any need to worry about showboating. Besides, I don&#039;t think what he did was outrageous. If a batter wants to take a look and celebrate, I have no problem with it. After all, just watch an old clip of the Babe. He not only would admire his clout but then tip his cap as he rounded the bases.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a walkoff I don&#8217;t think there is any need to worry about showboating. Besides, I don&#8217;t think what he did was outrageous. If a batter wants to take a look and celebrate, I have no problem with it. After all, just watch an old clip of the Babe. He not only would admire his clout but then tip his cap as he rounded the bases.</p>
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		<title>By: The Hawk</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Hawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 13:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cano had a great swing and great result. His showboating kind of soured the moment for me - for him, not the team cause a walk-off is a walk-off. 

As far as Hughes and Chamberlain go, it just seems silly now. Chamberlain&#039;s performance doesn&#039;t really merit preserving him for the post-season. Hughes they seem to value more the less they use him. It seems like the system will be perfected when he doesn&#039;t pitch at all; he can just be on display like a priceless antique.

It does seem like he sensible thing would have been to switch them a couple weeks ago. Hell, they could still do that. But ... they won&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cano had a great swing and great result. His showboating kind of soured the moment for me &#8211; for him, not the team cause a walk-off is a walk-off. </p>
<p>As far as Hughes and Chamberlain go, it just seems silly now. Chamberlain&#8217;s performance doesn&#8217;t really merit preserving him for the post-season. Hughes they seem to value more the less they use him. It seems like the system will be perfected when he doesn&#8217;t pitch at all; he can just be on display like a priceless antique.</p>
<p>It does seem like he sensible thing would have been to switch them a couple weeks ago. Hell, they could still do that. But &#8230; they won&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: monkeypants</title>
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		<dc:creator>monkeypants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 13:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[7] As an addendum...on Thursday, AJ was cruising along with one hiccup, finished the six down 3-2, but with 105 pitches.  Hm, Let&#039;s see.   105 &gt; 100, so the starter has to be pulled. 7th inning ≠ 8th or 9 inning, so it has to be a less trusted reliever.  The result?  6-2 in a matter of a few pitches.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[7] As an addendum&#8230;on Thursday, AJ was cruising along with one hiccup, finished the six down 3-2, but with 105 pitches.  Hm, Let&#8217;s see.   105 &gt; 100, so the starter has to be pulled. 7th inning ≠ 8th or 9 inning, so it has to be a less trusted reliever.  The result?  6-2 in a matter of a few pitches.</p>
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		<title>By: Sliced Bread</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sliced Bread</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 13:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[5] mystifying is a good word for it.  The Joba Map is all over the place.  After the last revision we were steaming  toward Indonesia, but now we&#039;re doubling back to Delaware?

The only positives I can find in the neglect of Hughes is that:
 he&#039;s being preserved for SOMETHING (presumably many many innings in October)
and his under-use has him pitching like an animal released from a cage that&#039;s too small for him.  He&#039;s insanely good, and fun to watch</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[5] mystifying is a good word for it.  The Joba Map is all over the place.  After the last revision we were steaming  toward Indonesia, but now we&#8217;re doubling back to Delaware?</p>
<p>The only positives I can find in the neglect of Hughes is that:<br />
 he&#8217;s being preserved for SOMETHING (presumably many many innings in October)<br />
and his under-use has him pitching like an animal released from a cage that&#8217;s too small for him.  He&#8217;s insanely good, and fun to watch</p>
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		<title>By: monkeypants</title>
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		<dc:creator>monkeypants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 13:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[5] &lt;i&gt;I try to believe the Yanks know what they are doing, but this mystifies me...&lt;/i&gt;

I am increasingly of the view that they have no frigging idea what they are doing with Hughes and Chamberlain.  At best, the organization appears divided.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[5] <i>I try to believe the Yanks know what they are doing, but this mystifies me&#8230;</i></p>
<p>I am increasingly of the view that they have no frigging idea what they are doing with Hughes and Chamberlain.  At best, the organization appears divided.</p>
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		<title>By: monkeypants</title>
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		<dc:creator>monkeypants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 13:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[5] I think that they should keep pushing CC, maybe even more.  I am not one bit convinced that &quot;100&quot; is a magic number for pitches--especially for a pitcher who in today&#039;s context is a workhorse--so I am not convinced that 110 pitches is &quot;pushing&quot; him in any meaningful way.  Plus, I would rather pitches 101 through 110 go to CC in the seventh inning, than to Phil Coke or Brian Bruney or Damaso Marte, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[5] I think that they should keep pushing CC, maybe even more.  I am not one bit convinced that &#8220;100&#8243; is a magic number for pitches&#8211;especially for a pitcher who in today&#8217;s context is a workhorse&#8211;so I am not convinced that 110 pitches is &#8220;pushing&#8221; him in any meaningful way.  Plus, I would rather pitches 101 through 110 go to CC in the seventh inning, than to Phil Coke or Brian Bruney or Damaso Marte, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Sliced Bread</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sliced Bread</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 13:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love Robbie, and (despite the barometric pressure that kept ARod&#039;s shot in the park) called his home run (I swear) after he switched bats,  just felt it was coming -- but I didn&#039;t like how he pimped it Manny stylee.  Whatever.  Kids these days and all that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love Robbie, and (despite the barometric pressure that kept ARod&#8217;s shot in the park) called his home run (I swear) after he switched bats,  just felt it was coming &#8212; but I didn&#8217;t like how he pimped it Manny stylee.  Whatever.  Kids these days and all that.</p>
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		<title>By: OldYanksFan</title>
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		<dc:creator>OldYanksFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 12:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, is it mandatory that CC throw over 110 pitches in every game? I don&#039;t like this. He is strong like bull, but why push him? We need to start thinking of the PS, and really, an effective (or ineffectice) CC is the difference between winning or losing in October.

I really thought they would bring Phil (71 IP) into the SR for October and move Joba (130 IP) into the BP. Doesn&#039;t that make sense? As it is, Joba will throw more IP then we would like (especially if it is a long PS) and Phil doesn&#039;t look like he will get near his IP limit (170 IP?).

I try to believe the Yanks know what they are doing, but this mystifies me. There is still time to stretch Phil out... and for some reason Girardi seems to be saving Phil (for what?). I hope Cashman (are the decisions on how to use Phil/Joba ultimately his?) knows what he is doing.

Kazmir was making $6m this year, but due for $10m and $12m the next 2 years. That&#039;s over 15% and almost %20 of team payroll. They have Price and Longoria locked up (CHEAP) for 6 years, but there are other guys who are ultimately more important to them then the injury prone Kazmir.

It was a difficult but smart move... especially if they got any real talent in exchange.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, is it mandatory that CC throw over 110 pitches in every game? I don&#8217;t like this. He is strong like bull, but why push him? We need to start thinking of the PS, and really, an effective (or ineffectice) CC is the difference between winning or losing in October.</p>
<p>I really thought they would bring Phil (71 IP) into the SR for October and move Joba (130 IP) into the BP. Doesn&#8217;t that make sense? As it is, Joba will throw more IP then we would like (especially if it is a long PS) and Phil doesn&#8217;t look like he will get near his IP limit (170 IP?).</p>
<p>I try to believe the Yanks know what they are doing, but this mystifies me. There is still time to stretch Phil out&#8230; and for some reason Girardi seems to be saving Phil (for what?). I hope Cashman (are the decisions on how to use Phil/Joba ultimately his?) knows what he is doing.</p>
<p>Kazmir was making $6m this year, but due for $10m and $12m the next 2 years. That&#8217;s over 15% and almost %20 of team payroll. They have Price and Longoria locked up (CHEAP) for 6 years, but there are other guys who are ultimately more important to them then the injury prone Kazmir.</p>
<p>It was a difficult but smart move&#8230; especially if they got any real talent in exchange.</p>
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		<title>By: OldYanksFan</title>
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		<dc:creator>OldYanksFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 12:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was a good win... important not to lose 2 in a row and 2 of 3.

The Sox had played very poorly up to last week, but they are healthier now. We shouldn&#039;t expect them to riole over and die. The division is ours, but we have to Win it, and not should not count on the Sox to lose it. Too bad TB seems to be choking, I don&#039;t think Texas can catch the Sox unless they sweep their series together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was a good win&#8230; important not to lose 2 in a row and 2 of 3.</p>
<p>The Sox had played very poorly up to last week, but they are healthier now. We shouldn&#8217;t expect them to riole over and die. The division is ours, but we have to Win it, and not should not count on the Sox to lose it. Too bad TB seems to be choking, I don&#8217;t think Texas can catch the Sox unless they sweep their series together.</p>
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