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		<title>By: Chyll Will</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/09/02/thank-you-sir-may-i-have-another/#comment-210798</link>
		<dc:creator>Chyll Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 04:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Btw, the spaghetti turned out nice; hit two of my three main goals very well: thick and hot.  Not as spicy as I would have liked, but far from failure.  In fact, I need to hit the gym first chance I get tomorrow... seconds was just not a good idea if I didn&#039;t plan on working it off right away...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Btw, the spaghetti turned out nice; hit two of my three main goals very well: thick and hot.  Not as spicy as I would have liked, but far from failure.  In fact, I need to hit the gym first chance I get tomorrow&#8230; seconds was just not a good idea if I didn&#8217;t plan on working it off right away&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: monkeypants</title>
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		<dc:creator>monkeypants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 03:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[231] So am I to understand that Mo was used with a three run lead in the ninth yesterday, despite having a tweaked groin (that Girardi seems to have know about) and a rested Phil Hughes?

[234] Indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[231] So am I to understand that Mo was used with a three run lead in the ninth yesterday, despite having a tweaked groin (that Girardi seems to have know about) and a rested Phil Hughes?</p>
<p>[234] Indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: weeping for brunnhilde</title>
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		<dc:creator>weeping for brunnhilde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 03:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[231] That sucks.  Nice to have the luxury of a padded lead so we can give the man the rest he needs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[231] That sucks.  Nice to have the luxury of a padded lead so we can give the man the rest he needs.</p>
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		<title>By: Chyll Will</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/09/02/thank-you-sir-may-i-have-another/#comment-210795</link>
		<dc:creator>Chyll Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 03:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[231] As long as they can keep hitting like this, Joe won&#039;t be tempted to consider Mo.  That&#039;s got to be incentive for the lineup. 

I hate that Gatorade felt compelled to add lyrics to their latest commercial.  Garbage; sounds like they&#039;re trying too hard to be hip.  It was stronger with just the hard-pounding drums/handclaps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[231] As long as they can keep hitting like this, Joe won&#8217;t be tempted to consider Mo.  That&#8217;s got to be incentive for the lineup. </p>
<p>I hate that Gatorade felt compelled to add lyrics to their latest commercial.  Garbage; sounds like they&#8217;re trying too hard to be hip.  It was stronger with just the hard-pounding drums/handclaps.</p>
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		<title>By: Chyll Will</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/09/02/thank-you-sir-may-i-have-another/#comment-210794</link>
		<dc:creator>Chyll Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 02:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[228] As far as anyone else, I can&#039;t think of anyone else that meets the requisite; Doc Gooden comes close, maybe Steve Howe.  As a manager, Billy Martin almost certainly fits the bill.  Miller Higgins died youngish, but he not because of anything &quot;bad&quot; he did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[228] As far as anyone else, I can&#8217;t think of anyone else that meets the requisite; Doc Gooden comes close, maybe Steve Howe.  As a manager, Billy Martin almost certainly fits the bill.  Miller Higgins died youngish, but he not because of anything &#8220;bad&#8221; he did.</p>
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		<title>By: RIYank</title>
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		<dc:creator>RIYank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 02:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, crap.
Mo has a &quot;stiff groin&quot;. He felt it first in Seattle, he felt it again last night. That&#039;s why he wasn&#039;t available. They&#039;re going to give him a few days off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, crap.<br />
Mo has a &#8220;stiff groin&#8221;. He felt it first in Seattle, he felt it again last night. That&#8217;s why he wasn&#8217;t available. They&#8217;re going to give him a few days off.</p>
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		<title>By: RIYank</title>
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		<dc:creator>RIYank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 02:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[229] No, he should be exactly as good as he is; and, fortunately, he is.
Hey, it is what it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[229] No, he should be exactly as good as he is; and, fortunately, he is.<br />
Hey, it is what it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Chyll Will</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chyll Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 02:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[222] You mean Hong Kong Phooey?  Shouldn&#039;t he be better than he is?  I mean, at least Carl Crawford better?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[222] You mean Hong Kong Phooey?  Shouldn&#8217;t he be better than he is?  I mean, at least Carl Crawford better?</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 02:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[225] &quot;fackyouk...&quot; wow, that is freaky karma..
[226] The Mick is a great example..he also bowed out too early but at least finished his career..he was 64 when he died?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[225] &#8220;fackyouk&#8230;&#8221; wow, that is freaky karma..<br />
[226] The Mick is a great example..he also bowed out too early but at least finished his career..he was 64 when he died?</p>
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		<title>By: RIYank</title>
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		<dc:creator>RIYank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 02:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rays win!

Boy, this was just a great night. Beckett shelled, CC strong, Sox&#039; pen melts down, Phil philthy, stretch our lead by a game. And Brad Penny is cured by leaving Boston.

Sigh.

See youse tomorrow!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rays win!</p>
<p>Boy, this was just a great night. Beckett shelled, CC strong, Sox&#8217; pen melts down, Phil philthy, stretch our lead by a game. And Brad Penny is cured by leaving Boston.</p>
<p>Sigh.</p>
<p>See youse tomorrow!</p>
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		<title>By: Chyll Will</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chyll Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 02:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[219] I would say The Mick...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[219] I would say The Mick&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Chyll Will</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chyll Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 02:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[213] Yeah, the drummer does have a passing resemblance to the President...  but how did you luck out with that url: &quot;%2Ffackyouk%&quot;... man, that&#039;s a lot of meditation to make that (almost) happen...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[213] Yeah, the drummer does have a passing resemblance to the President&#8230;  but how did you luck out with that url: &#8220;%2Ffackyouk%&#8221;&#8230; man, that&#8217;s a lot of meditation to make that (almost) happen&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: monkeypants</title>
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		<dc:creator>monkeypants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 02:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[207] If you come in during a save situation and finish the game without giving up the lead, you get a save, regardless of what else happens after you enter.

[204] The save is a mostly meaningless stat, IMO, mainly because the game has evolved such that the definition of a &quot;save situation&quot; no longer conforms to the way the game is played.  In the old days, you had far more three inning saves, and it kind of made sense to give a guy credit for finishing a game--throwing three or four innings--even if he had a sizable lead.  Defining the save normally as completing a game with a three run lead also sort of made sense--after all, three runs is still somewhat &quot;close&quot; if one is talking about a two or three inning save. Finally, in the old days, the relief ace often came into very hairy situations, with the bases juiced or to face the heart of the line up.

But now the great majority of saves are of the one inning variety, and a good number involve leads of two or three runs.  In other words, games that teams win like 97% of the time, and about 95% of the time regardless of who is pitching (according to Bill James).

In these situations, the person who often deserves to get a &quot;save&quot;, IMO, is the middle reliever who held the fort or got out of a jam and then handed the ball over to the closer.

[201] Thus, in some ways, Hughes&#039; save tonight is more like an old-fashioned save.  He came in and put out the fire in the 8th, then finished the game.  So, while I agree with you that the save is pretty meaningless, I would not cite tonight as the most egregious example.  For me, those would be games like last night (my apologies to Mo).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[207] If you come in during a save situation and finish the game without giving up the lead, you get a save, regardless of what else happens after you enter.</p>
<p>[204] The save is a mostly meaningless stat, IMO, mainly because the game has evolved such that the definition of a &#8220;save situation&#8221; no longer conforms to the way the game is played.  In the old days, you had far more three inning saves, and it kind of made sense to give a guy credit for finishing a game&#8211;throwing three or four innings&#8211;even if he had a sizable lead.  Defining the save normally as completing a game with a three run lead also sort of made sense&#8211;after all, three runs is still somewhat &#8220;close&#8221; if one is talking about a two or three inning save. Finally, in the old days, the relief ace often came into very hairy situations, with the bases juiced or to face the heart of the line up.</p>
<p>But now the great majority of saves are of the one inning variety, and a good number involve leads of two or three runs.  In other words, games that teams win like 97% of the time, and about 95% of the time regardless of who is pitching (according to Bill James).</p>
<p>In these situations, the person who often deserves to get a &#8220;save&#8221;, IMO, is the middle reliever who held the fort or got out of a jam and then handed the ball over to the closer.</p>
<p>[201] Thus, in some ways, Hughes&#8217; save tonight is more like an old-fashioned save.  He came in and put out the fire in the 8th, then finished the game.  So, while I agree with you that the save is pretty meaningless, I would not cite tonight as the most egregious example.  For me, those would be games like last night (my apologies to Mo).</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 02:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[221] Strawberry had the potential but he never really delivered the body of work..when you look at what Charlie Parker actually still produced despite the heroin, alcohol and mental breakdowns..it&#039;s astonishing! Dying at 35 with that amount of work already behind him..we&#039;re talking Mozart here..(and I am not even that huge a Bird fan, but got the respect..)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[221] Strawberry had the potential but he never really delivered the body of work..when you look at what Charlie Parker actually still produced despite the heroin, alcohol and mental breakdowns..it&#8217;s astonishing! Dying at 35 with that amount of work already behind him..we&#8217;re talking Mozart here..(and I am not even that huge a Bird fan, but got the respect..)</p>
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		<title>By: RIYank</title>
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		<dc:creator>RIYank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 02:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Red Sox&#039; DH right now is Joey Gathright.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Red Sox&#8217; DH right now is Joey Gathright.</p>
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		<title>By: RIYank</title>
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		<dc:creator>RIYank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 02:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[219] Strawberry?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[219] Strawberry?</p>
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		<title>By: RIYank</title>
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		<dc:creator>RIYank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 02:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This ending (I hope) for the Sox game is just awesome. Beckett was bad, and then they came back, and now the vaunted Boston bullpen coughs up the game. Awesome. Well, assuming the Rays can hold the three run lead here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This ending (I hope) for the Sox game is just awesome. Beckett was bad, and then they came back, and now the vaunted Boston bullpen coughs up the game. Awesome. Well, assuming the Rays can hold the three run lead here.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 02:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[213] Oh wow...my buddy and I have been trying for years to figure out who the Charlie Parker of baseball was/is..hard one as he had such total mastery of his art, but was such a shocking disaster away from the stage..maybe the Babe is the only one real close? Though even the Babe couldn&#039;t match Bird when it came to..er..&quot;ingestion of un-healthy substances&quot;...

Giants truly walked the earth back then, ever listen to the live at Massey Hall album?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[213] Oh wow&#8230;my buddy and I have been trying for years to figure out who the Charlie Parker of baseball was/is..hard one as he had such total mastery of his art, but was such a shocking disaster away from the stage..maybe the Babe is the only one real close? Though even the Babe couldn&#8217;t match Bird when it came to..er..&#8221;ingestion of un-healthy substances&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>Giants truly walked the earth back then, ever listen to the live at Massey Hall album?</p>
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		<title>By: seamus</title>
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		<dc:creator>seamus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 02:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[216] there have been a couple of years in recent memory where I felt we exhausted ourselves getting into the playoffs too much to be competitive in the post-season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[216] there have been a couple of years in recent memory where I felt we exhausted ourselves getting into the playoffs too much to be competitive in the post-season.</p>
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		<title>By: seamus</title>
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		<dc:creator>seamus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 02:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow another game on the Angels.  sweet!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow another game on the Angels.  sweet!!!</p>
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