Comments on: News of the Day – 10/1/09

By: boslaw

boslaw — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 02:37:13 +0000

hey monkeypants – do you also visit the good morning gloucester blog?

By: Rich

Rich — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 21:38:51 +0000

[29] At least as important a consideration (which is what I was thinking) is would Teix have signed with Boston?

By: Raf

Raf — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 19:29:36 +0000

“Cheating is baseball’s oldest profession. No other game is so rich in skullduggery, so suited to it or so proud of it.” – Thomas Boswell

By: Raf

Raf — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 19:28:22 +0000

Yes, I remember the chase well, I was delivering pizzas, and I checked into the bar to try to catch some of the game between deliveries. I was like WTF?

Knicks – Rockets, that series hurt. I thought that it was finally the Knicks’ year, having defeated their nemesis (nemesi?) Chicago & Indiana in the playoffs.

[2] I look forward to it as well. I was able to make it to games 1 & 2 of the ALDS, and until Cone’s perfect game, game 2 was the best game I have ever seen in person. Can’t beat the atmosphere around the Stadium. I have game 5 on tape, and I pull it out every so often to watch it.

[11] They preempted “Animaiacs” for that crap of a trial.

I shudder to think about what this season would be like if Teix had signed elsewhere.

Depends on other moves that they would have made. Would they have kept Swisher @ 1b? Who would they have signed to play RF? or vice versa? As good as Teix has been, just as important is the bounceback seasons of Jeter, Cano & Cabrera. Having Posada around for a full season helps a lot as well; it keeps Molina on the bench as a backup, where he belongs.

By: a.O

a.O — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 16:58:03 +0000

[27] I used to steal signs while I was hitting, but but only if I couldn’t solve the guy. The key is to glance down at the right moment and not move your head too much. I got caught a few times, and HPB a few times in my next at bat. But, hey, free base.

By: monkeypants

monkeypants — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 16:37:29 +0000

[24][26] Well, yes…everyone agrees (I think) that creating a specific advantage for the home team (cameras or the like) is cheating because it gives one side an unfair advantage. beyond that, though, there is a long tradition in baseball of players getting angry even about “regular” sign stealing. Aren’t there stories about guys like Gibson beaning batters because they dared to steal signs?

Anyway, it is the latter sort of sign stealing (the “fair type”) that I have no problem with. Along these lines, I think that it’s fine for guys on the bench to try to figure out what signals the base coaches are giving, or for the base coaches to try to peak in at the catcher, and so forth. I do not understand why some (many?) in the baseball world get worked up about this.

By: Yankee Mama

Yankee Mama — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 16:08:37 +0000

I think that making a hole in the outfield wall, so that the home team can steal the signs of the opposing team, as was a legend (truth?) at the Polo Grounds is cheating.

Standing on 2nd base and stealing signs from the catcher is part of the game. Fair game.

By: knuckles

knuckles — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 16:00:59 +0000

I just want to go on record as saying cold weather college bowl games are miserable. I went to Wake vs. Navy in DC last year, it was butt cold, the teams were mediocre, and the stadium was half full.

If the Yankee Bowl had happened last year, it’d have been Rutgers-Kansas, and the only saving grace would be the Rutgers connection. It could easily be Mizzou-S. Florida and have attendance of about 25% of capacity.

By: Rich

Rich — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 15:33:09 +0000

[22] As long as they are stolen with ordinary sense modalities (as opposed to advanced technology), it’s an acceptable form of gamesmanship.

OT: I wish Jose Reyes a full recovery from his serial hamstring issues.

By: Rich

Rich — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 15:31:04 +0000

I shudder to think about what this season would be like if Teix had signed elsewhere. The lesson is, imo, that the Yankees should always ensure that they are in a position to sign top tier free agents who are under 30 that play a position of need.

By: monkeypants

monkeypants — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 15:30:33 +0000

I have never understood why stealing signs was considered “wrong.” The very fact that teams use signs shows that they are cognizant that the opposition wants o know what they are going to do, and so they have taken steps to obfuscate and deceive. One could even argue that the elaborate systems of signs that teams have developed–especially when runners are on base–assumes that the opposition is trying to steal them.

By: jonnystrongleg

jonnystrongleg — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 15:23:17 +0000

[7] I don’t participate enough on these things to know if you should restrict the dialogue on a certain topic to one blog. So sorry if that is bad pool.

I also agree w/ you that I should have given RAB more credit for pointing out that it’s “no big deal.”

I still think it reveals Deadspin’s ignorance about this phase of the game and I don’t think it was worth a link from RAB – but I should have been much more diplomatic about it.

By: ms october

ms october — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 15:22:17 +0000

[18] it was a night game – i guess just with the time difference it wasn’t dark in la yet

By: RagingTartabull

RagingTartabull — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 15:20:36 +0000

[16] the day is actually the basis for one of those ESPN 30 for 30 films that are coming out in a few months.

http://30for30.espn.com/film/june-17-1994.html

By: williamnyy23

williamnyy23 — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 15:18:28 +0000

[13] Was it the finals already? During the day? That was toward the end of my basketball fandom, so maybe I am trying to block it all out.

[15] Ouch.

By: RagingTartabull

RagingTartabull — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 15:17:31 +0000

[15] 2 for 18!!! with Blackman on the bench!!

I can’t…I gotta go put my head on my desk for a few minutes.

By: Sliced Bread

Sliced Bread — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 15:17:14 +0000

I was driving upstate listening to the Knicks game when I heard about the OJ chase.
But the thing I remember most about that day was (just before I left NY) seeing a couple of NY Rangers in the back seat of a cop car drivng up 1st Avenue (at 70th St) with the Stanley Cup. Their parade was earlier that day.

By: Diane Firstman

Diane Firstman — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 15:15:12 +0000

[14]

One of John Starks shots STILL hasn’t hit the rim …

By: RagingTartabull

RagingTartabull — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 15:12:10 +0000

[11] In retrospect that was probably for the best, everyone in America became an expert on something that had no practical use whatsoever. I really didn’t need to know as much as I did about Bruno Magli shoes and people like Faye Resnick.

But it was Knicks/Rockets, Game 5 at MSG…before the whole thing went to Hell. Thanks Riley.

By: ms october

ms october — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 15:10:46 +0000

[11] slight correction william – the car chase happened during rockets/knicks in the finals. believe it or not the knicks were actually in the finals back in the 90′s :}
my mom and i were at my grandma’s in dallas and *everyone* there was rooting for the rockets but my mom and i.

[8] i was in physics class

but the 95 alds bok may be interesting. i hope he explores very diffrent ground than sherman’s book.