Comments on: Goin’ Back to Cali http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/10/12/goin-back-to-cali/ Development site for Bronx Banter Blog's upcoming look and feel Thu, 23 May 2013 22:12:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: Raf http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/10/12/goin-back-to-cali/#comment-225036 Raf Tue, 13 Oct 2009 02:20:09 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=24910#comment-225036 <b>Yes, homegrown players are irreplaceable. :)</b> Don Mattingly was replaced with Tino Martinez ;) Yes, homegrown players are irreplaceable. :)

Don Mattingly was replaced with Tino Martinez ;)

]]> By: Eddie Lee Whitson KO http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/10/12/goin-back-to-cali/#comment-225035 Eddie Lee Whitson KO Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22:20:51 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=24910#comment-225035 Maybe some unconventional thoughts: Maybe some unconventional thoughts:

]]> By: Rich http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/10/12/goin-back-to-cali/#comment-225034 Rich Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20:36:25 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=24910#comment-225034 Raf, The money is now far better spent for two reason: CC instead of Pavano, Farns, and Teix instead of Giambi. Yes, homegrown players are irreplaceable. :) Raf,

The money is now far better spent for two reason: CC instead of Pavano, Farns, and Teix instead of Giambi.

Yes, homegrown players are irreplaceable. :)

]]> By: Raf http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/10/12/goin-back-to-cali/#comment-225033 Raf Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:55:34 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=24910#comment-225033 [35] Yes, Posada was quite demonstrative after that first pitch missed his target. Actually, that's the first time I remember him doing that. [35] Yes, Posada was quite demonstrative after that first pitch missed his target. Actually, that’s the first time I remember him doing that.

]]> By: Bobtaco http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/10/12/goin-back-to-cali/#comment-225032 Bobtaco Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:50:37 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=24910#comment-225032 [3] The first pitch in the sequence between Mo and Mauer missed Posada's target and really drifted back over the heart of the plate. Posada's glove really shifted hard from under Mauer's hands to the outside corner. Mo was very fortunate that Mauer didn't hammer it. [3] The first pitch in the sequence between Mo and Mauer missed Posada’s target and really drifted back over the heart of the plate. Posada’s glove really shifted hard from under Mauer’s hands to the outside corner. Mo was very fortunate that Mauer didn’t hammer it.

]]> By: Raf http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/10/12/goin-back-to-cali/#comment-225031 Raf Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15:49:05 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=24910#comment-225031 [33] Regardless, if Adenhart were still alive, the Angels organization would still be trying to win the World Series. [33] Regardless, if Adenhart were still alive, the Angels organization would still be trying to win the World Series.

]]> By: The Hawk http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/10/12/goin-back-to-cali/#comment-225030 The Hawk Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15:38:11 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=24910#comment-225030 I think the Angels-on-a-mission thing stems from their recently deceased teammate. That's a little different from the other teams, no? I think the Angels-on-a-mission thing stems from their recently deceased teammate. That’s a little different from the other teams, no?

]]> By: Raf http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/10/12/goin-back-to-cali/#comment-225029 Raf Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15:34:52 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=24910#comment-225029 [20] As I said in the other thread, I don't hate Pavano either. I thought that he shouldn't have been signed, and even after I accepted that he was going to be a Yankee for 4 years, I didn't think he would pitch as little as he did. [20] As I said in the other thread, I don’t hate Pavano either. I thought that he shouldn’t have been signed, and even after I accepted that he was going to be a Yankee for 4 years, I didn’t think he would pitch as little as he did.

]]> By: Raf http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/10/12/goin-back-to-cali/#comment-225028 Raf Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15:32:49 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=24910#comment-225028 <b>Anyone concerned about this: NYY 2009 PS Batting: .225 .288 .431 .720 </b> No, I'm not concerned. FWIW, 1st round performances. 2007: .228-.300-.404 (.704) 2006: .246-.303-.388 (.692) 2005: .253-.351-.392 (.742) 2004: .279-.345-.461 (.806) 2003: .275-.344-.384 (.728) 2002: .281-.367-.467 (.834) 2001: .241-.302-.355 (.658) 2000: .244-.309-.333 (.642) 1999: .235-.312-.378 (.689) 1998: .253-.313-.451 (.764) 1997: .259-.346-.410 (.755) 1996: 264-.331-.379 ( .710) Anyone concerned about this:
NYY 2009 PS Batting: .225 .288 .431 .720

No, I’m not concerned.

FWIW, 1st round performances.
2007: .228-.300-.404 (.704)
2006: .246-.303-.388 (.692)
2005: .253-.351-.392 (.742)
2004: .279-.345-.461 (.806)
2003: .275-.344-.384 (.728)
2002: .281-.367-.467 (.834)
2001: .241-.302-.355 (.658)
2000: .244-.309-.333 (.642)
1999: .235-.312-.378 (.689)
1998: .253-.313-.451 (.764)
1997: .259-.346-.410 (.755)
1996: 264-.331-.379 ( .710)

]]> By: Raf http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/10/12/goin-back-to-cali/#comment-225027 Raf Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15:21:36 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=24910#comment-225027 <b>The Angels seem to be on a mission</b> To win the World Series? There are 5 other teams on that same mission. The Angels seem to be on a mission

To win the World Series? There are 5 other teams on that same mission.

]]> By: Raf http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/10/12/goin-back-to-cali/#comment-225026 Raf Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15:19:49 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=24910#comment-225026 <b>Cashman stellar moves and $60+ million payroll advantage (far more than that over the Twins), would make any manager’s job a lot easier.</b> They had the same payroll advantage for the past 5 years, and have little to show for it from a postseason angle. That $60M payroll advantage didn't stop Teix from hitting .167-.231-.417, nor did it prevent Burnett from pitching like Blackburn during the regular season (as posted by Cliff; A.J. Burnett: 4.04 ERA, 1.40 WHIP, 2.01 K/BB, 33 GS, 21 QS vs. Nick Blackburn: 4.03 ERA, 1.37 WHIP, 2.39 K/BB, 33 GS, 19 QS). Nor did it prevent Joe Nathan from imploding. Having guys like Jeter and Rivera makes a manager's job a lot easier too. Cashman stellar moves and $60+ million payroll advantage (far more than that over the Twins), would make any manager’s job a lot easier.

They had the same payroll advantage for the past 5 years, and have little to show for it from a postseason angle. That $60M payroll advantage didn’t stop Teix from hitting .167-.231-.417, nor did it prevent Burnett from pitching like Blackburn during the regular season (as posted by Cliff; A.J. Burnett: 4.04 ERA, 1.40 WHIP, 2.01 K/BB, 33 GS, 21 QS vs. Nick Blackburn: 4.03 ERA, 1.37 WHIP, 2.39 K/BB, 33 GS, 19 QS). Nor did it prevent Joe Nathan from imploding.

Having guys like Jeter and Rivera makes a manager’s job a lot easier too.

]]> By: knuckles http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/10/12/goin-back-to-cali/#comment-225025 knuckles Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:57:13 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=24910#comment-225025 [20] I remember a goodly amount of Yankees not being too fond of Pavano's antics while with the club. Moose definitely comes to mind. [20]
I remember a goodly amount of Yankees not being too fond of Pavano’s antics while with the club. Moose definitely comes to mind.

]]> By: The Hawk http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/10/12/goin-back-to-cali/#comment-225024 The Hawk Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:56:59 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=24910#comment-225024 The TBS broadcasts of these games were truly awful. It seemed like the director was on drugs. The TBS broadcasts of these games were truly awful. It seemed like the director was on drugs.

]]> By: ms october http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/10/12/goin-back-to-cali/#comment-225023 ms october Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:29:03 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=24910#comment-225023 [25] hahaha i can believe that cowchip has been foisted on us due to a lost poker game [24] i'd put tex and cano in a slightly higher category than than the other 3 though. i think the bats will pick up some - damon is the most troubling because he looked off to end the season and he looked hopeless and lost at the plate this series - i hope he can snap out of it, but i think he is probably physically off right now [25] hahaha i can believe that cowchip has been foisted on us due to a lost poker game

[24] i’d put tex and cano in a slightly higher category than than the other 3 though.
i think the bats will pick up some – damon is the most troubling because he looked off to end the season and he looked hopeless and lost at the plate this series – i hope he can snap out of it, but i think he is probably physically off right now

]]> By: weeping for brunnhilde http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/10/12/goin-back-to-cali/#comment-225022 weeping for brunnhilde Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:22:11 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=24910#comment-225022 Our insufferable buddy Chip: http://www.sportspickle.com/article:281/chip-caray-calls-alds-a-three-game-sweep-for-twins-over-yankees Our insufferable buddy Chip: http://www.sportspickle.com/article:281/chip-caray-calls-alds-a-three-game-sweep-for-twins-over-yankees

]]> By: williamnyy23 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/10/12/goin-back-to-cali/#comment-225021 williamnyy23 Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:12:26 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=24910#comment-225021 [21] I have to correct myself...Matsui and Posada were pretty productive too. Melky, Cano, Swisher, Damon and even Tex were pretty bad. [21] I have to correct myself…Matsui and Posada were pretty productive too. Melky, Cano, Swisher, Damon and even Tex were pretty bad.

]]> By: williamnyy23 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/10/12/goin-back-to-cali/#comment-225020 williamnyy23 Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:06:53 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=24910#comment-225020 [22] Short white guy love is never in short supply. The best example wa Buck Martinez gushing about how Dustin Pedroia turned a groundball double play into only a 4-3 by willing a play to be made. It seems as if Dusty's determination caused him to bobble the grounder and forfeit the extra out, thereby improving his team's chances of winning. [22] Short white guy love is never in short supply. The best example wa Buck Martinez gushing about how Dustin Pedroia turned a groundball double play into only a 4-3 by willing a play to be made. It seems as if Dusty’s determination caused him to bobble the grounder and forfeit the extra out, thereby improving his team’s chances of winning.

]]> By: RIYank http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/10/12/goin-back-to-cali/#comment-225019 RIYank Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:04:07 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=24910#comment-225019 Emma, I hope you are feeling a bit more confident than you were in your <a href="http://www.bugsandcranks.com/emmaspan/baseball/hope-for-the-best-expect-the-pavano/" rel="nofollow">Bugs and Cranks</a> piece. I guess I can be persuaded to feel bad for Nicky Punto. It's not <i>his</i> fault that he's been anointed as Eckstein 2.0. Emma, I hope you are feeling a bit more confident than you were in your Bugs and Cranks piece.

I guess I can be persuaded to feel bad for Nicky Punto. It’s not his fault that he’s been anointed as Eckstein 2.0.

]]> By: williamnyy23 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/10/12/goin-back-to-cali/#comment-225018 williamnyy23 Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:50:03 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=24910#comment-225018 [8] I am not worried about the offense either. Instead, I look at it as only 2 guys hit and they still scored 15 runs in the series. [16] Two weeks ago, I pushed for CC to go on short rest. Because of the way the series is scheduled, he would only have to do it once, so you don't compromise him in two starts. The bottom line to me is CC on three is better than Gaudin on full rest. [20] I don't hate Pavano, but I would have hated losing to him. [8] I am not worried about the offense either. Instead, I look at it as only 2 guys hit and they still scored 15 runs in the series.

[16] Two weeks ago, I pushed for CC to go on short rest. Because of the way the series is scheduled, he would only have to do it once, so you don’t compromise him in two starts. The bottom line to me is CC on three is better than Gaudin on full rest.

[20] I don’t hate Pavano, but I would have hated losing to him.

]]> By: Horace Clarke Era http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/10/12/goin-back-to-cali/#comment-225017 Horace Clarke Era Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:32:01 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=24910#comment-225017 I was mostly over the Pavano Hate thing earlier this year when he was in Cleveland, and I'm entirely done with it now. He pitched really well, smart (possibly Mauer's doing) and with terrific location, kept people very badly off-balance. Noting Jeter and Pettitte both saying non-robotic nice things and wishing him well in interviews before the game reminded me how much more the fan base 'feels' these hatreds than the players do. I remember someone getting agitated that Jeter was even TALKING to Youkilis last year, with Youk on second base. I expect a very intense series, too, coming up. I worry about their speed and smarts and I am just fine (hush, Jorge) with Molina catching AJ again. Unless Damon is hurt or rundown, I wouldn't move him from 2nd except against the lefties, but that may become the next talking point with a LONG (ungodly long) week to wait. I was mostly over the Pavano Hate thing earlier this year when he was in Cleveland, and I’m entirely done with it now. He pitched really well, smart (possibly Mauer’s doing) and with terrific location, kept people very badly off-balance. Noting Jeter and Pettitte both saying non-robotic nice things and wishing him well in interviews before the game reminded me how much more the fan base ‘feels’ these hatreds than the players do. I remember someone getting agitated that Jeter was even TALKING to Youkilis last year, with Youk on second base.

I expect a very intense series, too, coming up. I worry about their speed and smarts and I am just fine (hush, Jorge) with Molina catching AJ again. Unless Damon is hurt or rundown, I wouldn’t move him from 2nd except against the lefties, but that may become the next talking point with a LONG (ungodly long) week to wait.

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