Comments on: Game On!

By: 51cq24

51cq24 — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 05:28:21 +0000

[819] the problem is you’re only talking about the last of those starts, when he gave up 5 runs in 3.2 innings against the phillies in the division series. the previous 3 starts were also made on short rest, and he only gave up 2 earned runs 21.2 innings, including a shutout against the cubs (his 3rd consecutive start on short rest). in those 3 starts he had a 0.83 era, a 0.88 whip, and 5.25 k/bb. he pitched 253 innings (256.2 total) last year and 230 (now 244.2) this year. i don’t think it’s fair to compare one start on short rest after a full season of regular rest or longer to his 4th straight start on short rest last year.

By: Yankster

Yankster — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 04:34:40 +0000

Of course 113 is no big deal for CC, when he’s pitching on regular rest. 123 is no big deal on regular rest. But even CC seems (looking at last year) to be less effective on short rest after pitching a lot.

Also, of course keeping CC in would have been the best strategy for winning this game had it been close, and I agree that no harm was done to him with his pitch count this game.

What I’m saying is that maybe it’s a good idea to cap CC at 200 pitches in any four days if you don’t want to slow him down. Certainly he has a track record of throwing poorly in the past after throwing 220 pitches in a four day period.

Certainly there’s a very strong track record that a lot of pitchers throw poorly when their workload gets to 200 pitches in a four day period – that’s why it’s called short rest and why it’s rarely done. CC has shown the same pattern in the past, but maybe he’s become grittier since last year – who knows?

It’s not his arm I’m worried about, by the way, it’s winning his next start.

Anyway. Clearly I’m in the minority here, which means, hopefully, that I’m wrong.

By: Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO

Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 04:04:00 +0000

[817] potential top-10 player drinking buddy, alongside Oil Can Boyd and David Wells.

bottom-10 would have to start with Billy Martin..small, wiry guys who drink too much are always looking to fight..

By: 51cq24

51cq24 — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 03:54:55 +0000

[816] cone is the best. what a character. and he actually knows what he’s talking about, he doesn’t just say what everyone else says (like he actually pointed out that since abreu signed, only one angel, figgins, has actually walked more than he had last year)

By: NYYfan22

NYYfan22 — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 03:48:39 +0000

watching the postgame on Yes. Are these guys on speed? Talking fast as hell!

By: JeremyM

JeremyM — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 03:44:06 +0000

Let’s hammer Saunders tomorrow and hope good AJ shows up!

By: Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO

Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 03:40:23 +0000

[812] Oh I know..I meant that, 113 for CC is really not a huge deal..it’s 140+ when you’re asking for trouble..

By: OldYanksFan

OldYanksFan — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 03:39:29 +0000

Studies show that the RPS (Rest Pitches Stored) is based on size, and is: PS% = (6 * Waist size) / rest days / pi..
In CC’s case, this is about 9%, so CC saved about 10 pitches due to rest.

By: monkeypants

monkeypants — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 03:38:11 +0000

[809] remember when David Cone threw 156 pithces?!?!

Yes. And I remember the outcome.

By: Just Fair

Just Fair — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 03:37:40 +0000

That Snoop-Choad fuck-up will always be one of my favorites. Kinda like a security blanket. Douches.

By: weeping for brunnhilde

weeping for brunnhilde — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 03:36:52 +0000

Hideki’s hit was huge. That set the tone.

By: Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO

Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 03:36:24 +0000

[806] Oh, well-done sirrah!

CC can handle 113, I don’t see the big deal. 140 is pushing it..(remember when David Cone threw 156 pithces?!?!)

By: monkeypants

monkeypants — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 03:36:20 +0000

[807] I agree again…that’s why I kept hoping for a tack-on run or three.

By: 51cq24

51cq24 — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 03:35:11 +0000

[805] well i think it was borderline on whether they were in a position to do so. the way he was pitching, i think he was definitely the best bet for the 8th inning. and while you can’t really store up on extra pitches, surely it makes a difference that he’s had so much rest lately. anyway, my main point is that one extra inning isn’t going to make a difference in this context. if he had been worked a lot lately, that would be different.

By: Just Fair

Just Fair — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 03:32:27 +0000

Big Fella’s going to sleep well tonight. Johan Santana may toss and turn a little………..

By: monkeypants

monkeypants — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 03:31:49 +0000

[801] I agree with you…but I’m not sure that having the long layoff really matters. I’m pretty sure that pitchers can’t “store up” extra pitches (I haven’t thrown in a week coach, so I’m good for 150 pitches tonight). Ultimately, I don’t think ~115 pitches is all that much for CC, but at the same time, if he is going on short rest AND if the team was in a position to do so, surely it couldn’t have hurt not to press him tonight?

By: OldYanksFan

OldYanksFan — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 03:31:30 +0000

I WON MY SPADES GAME!!!!
What happened with the Yankees?

By: weeping for brunnhilde

weeping for brunnhilde — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 03:28:14 +0000

Guys, I love you, I love your passion, but for God’s sake, let’s bask for a couple minutes, anyway!

By: monkeypants

monkeypants — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 03:27:57 +0000

[794] I love November baseball!!!

By: 51cq24

51cq24 — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 03:25:45 +0000

[799] right, so don’t you see a difference between that and starting on short rest once after an 8 inning performance following a week+ off?