Comments on: News of the Day – 10/26/09 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/10/26/news-of-the-day-102609/ Development site for Bronx Banter Blog's upcoming look and feel Thu, 20 Jun 2013 04:45:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: williamnyy23 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/10/26/news-of-the-day-102609/#comment-236227 williamnyy23 Tue, 27 Oct 2009 02:14:02 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=25465#comment-236227 [22] The "league average" is the average performance in a particular team's schedule multiplied by park factors. It wouldn't make sense to take a cookie cutter average and then multiply that by one park factor because it would completely ignore context. [22] The “league average” is the average performance in a particular team’s schedule multiplied by park factors. It wouldn’t make sense to take a cookie cutter average and then multiply that by one park factor because it would completely ignore context.

]]> By: Rich http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/10/26/news-of-the-day-102609/#comment-236226 Rich Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:43:13 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=25465#comment-236226 [18] <b>If he stays healthy, I am confident AJ can do that.</b> Health is what makes the length of the contract the risk that it is. [18] If he stays healthy, I am confident AJ can do that.

Health is what makes the length of the contract the risk that it is.

]]> By: RIYank http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/10/26/news-of-the-day-102609/#comment-236225 RIYank Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:43:08 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=25465#comment-236225 [19] Indeed, but there is very specifically a "league average" component. It's the divisor or denominator of the fractions that get added together. I'm wondering whether that "league average" is MLB or AL/NL. [19] Indeed, but there is very specifically a “league average” component. It’s the divisor or denominator of the fractions that get added together. I’m wondering whether that “league average” is MLB or AL/NL.

]]> By: Horace Clarke Era http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/10/26/news-of-the-day-102609/#comment-236224 Horace Clarke Era Mon, 26 Oct 2009 18:04:09 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=25465#comment-236224 The AJ terms were market terms. Cash did not make the market, he nudged just above it to land him. We can (and have) gone all over the place on the signing back then, but in terms of Cash's plan to have money for pieces, we're in the WS with Wang gone all year, and AJ was a big component. Could have pocketed the money, yes, and thrown Hughes/Joba/whomever out there and hoped, but as fans, did we want it pocketed? Was there a better starter to spend it on? Maybe, just maybe, but it worked. Give the GM his props already, as william says. Let Cash kvell just a bit today. The AJ terms were market terms. Cash did not make the market, he nudged just above it to land him. We can (and have) gone all over the place on the signing back then, but in terms of Cash’s plan to have money for pieces, we’re in the WS with Wang gone all year, and AJ was a big component. Could have pocketed the money, yes, and thrown Hughes/Joba/whomever out there and hoped, but as fans, did we want it pocketed? Was there a better starter to spend it on? Maybe, just maybe, but it worked. Give the GM his props already, as william says. Let Cash kvell just a bit today.

]]> By: Paul http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/10/26/news-of-the-day-102609/#comment-236223 Paul Mon, 26 Oct 2009 18:01:04 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=25465#comment-236223 Fangraphs says Burnett was worth 14 mil. So he's was overpaid even as he was healthy. And the chances of him staying healthy all five years are slim to none. Fangraphs says Burnett was worth 14 mil. So he’s was overpaid even as he was healthy. And the chances of him staying healthy all five years are slim to none.

]]> By: williamnyy23 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/10/26/news-of-the-day-102609/#comment-236222 williamnyy23 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:58:13 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=25465#comment-236222 [17] It's neither...it is a park adjusted figure that is unique for every team. [17] It’s neither…it is a park adjusted figure that is unique for every team.

]]> By: williamnyy23 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/10/26/news-of-the-day-102609/#comment-236221 williamnyy23 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:51:39 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=25465#comment-236221 The AJ signing has worked out pretty well in year one. I'd make the same deal on the same terms in a second. An ERA+ of 110 in 200 innings (with a high percentage of quality starts) is very valuable. I'd gladly sign up for that over the next 4 years. If he stays healthy, I am confident AJ can do that. The AJ signing has worked out pretty well in year one. I’d make the same deal on the same terms in a second. An ERA+ of 110 in 200 innings (with a high percentage of quality starts) is very valuable. I’d gladly sign up for that over the next 4 years. If he stays healthy, I am confident AJ can do that.

]]> By: RIYank http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/10/26/news-of-the-day-102609/#comment-236220 RIYank Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:50:32 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=25465#comment-236220 Diane, or Cliff, or someone with definite knowledge, can one of you explain something that monkeypants brought up in an earlier thread? When OPS+ is calculated, is the denominator for SLG and OBP, the "league average", the average for MLB or for the specific league (AL or NL)? The question is whether the Phils' near-avg OPS+ is near-avg just for the NL, or for the whole of MLB. Thanks! Diane, or Cliff, or someone with definite knowledge, can one of you explain something that monkeypants brought up in an earlier thread?
When OPS+ is calculated, is the denominator for SLG and OBP, the “league average”, the average for MLB or for the specific league (AL or NL)?

The question is whether the Phils’ near-avg OPS+ is near-avg just for the NL, or for the whole of MLB.

Thanks!

]]> By: Paul http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/10/26/news-of-the-day-102609/#comment-236219 Paul Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:43:24 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=25465#comment-236219 [14] With pitchers, the terms are always the sticking point. You don't sign him if you aren't absolutely sure. CC was as close to a sure thing as you can get. Burnett wasn't. And the real problem is he wasn't worth his contract even with staying healthy the whole year. If he misses a major part of a season, the contract is still that much worse. Meanwhile, between Hughes and Joba and even Aceves they could have found a way through the season or even brought in Pedro when Wang went down. But agreed on how they didn't miss a beat without Wang. [15] I have no idea what you're talking about. But I do love TJ's. [14] With pitchers, the terms are always the sticking point. You don’t sign him if you aren’t absolutely sure. CC was as close to a sure thing as you can get. Burnett wasn’t. And the real problem is he wasn’t worth his contract even with staying healthy the whole year. If he misses a major part of a season, the contract is still that much worse.

Meanwhile, between Hughes and Joba and even Aceves they could have found a way through the season or even brought in Pedro when Wang went down. But agreed on how they didn’t miss a beat without Wang.

[15] I have no idea what you’re talking about. But I do love TJ’s.

]]> By: 51cq24 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/10/26/news-of-the-day-102609/#comment-236218 51cq24 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:29:13 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=25465#comment-236218 [12] you're not bum rush!! sorry for thinking you were. i just drove to trader joe's and heard sweeney murti talking about the rotation. while most of what he was saying was stupid (for example, he said andy had 1 bad start on 3 days' rest in the postseason and failed to mention the other 4 starts that i cited in the last thread, which were mostly great), he did mention that aj thinks that short rest helps him because it helps his control. usually i tend to think that if aj thinks something helps him, it probably will, which is why i won't be too pissed if molina continues to catch him. so, i think burnett on short rest is a good move. the only question then is whether andy on short rest is better than gaudin on regular rest. the answer is pretty obvious to me. and anyway, if andy doesn't have it, you go to gaudin quickly. [12] you’re not bum rush!! sorry for thinking you were.

i just drove to trader joe’s and heard sweeney murti talking about the rotation. while most of what he was saying was stupid (for example, he said andy had 1 bad start on 3 days’ rest in the postseason and failed to mention the other 4 starts that i cited in the last thread, which were mostly great), he did mention that aj thinks that short rest helps him because it helps his control. usually i tend to think that if aj thinks something helps him, it probably will, which is why i won’t be too pissed if molina continues to catch him. so, i think burnett on short rest is a good move. the only question then is whether andy on short rest is better than gaudin on regular rest. the answer is pretty obvious to me. and anyway, if andy doesn’t have it, you go to gaudin quickly.

]]> By: seamus http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/10/26/news-of-the-day-102609/#comment-236217 seamus Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:11:36 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=25465#comment-236217 [13] the terms of the AJ signing were bad, but I didn't think the signing itself was bad. He definitely was an improvement on our existing top 5 starters. What is amazing is what we did this year sans Wang. [13] the terms of the AJ signing were bad, but I didn’t think the signing itself was bad. He definitely was an improvement on our existing top 5 starters. What is amazing is what we did this year sans Wang.

]]> By: Paul http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/10/26/news-of-the-day-102609/#comment-236216 Paul Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:04:38 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=25465#comment-236216 [5] Sorry, but the money given to Burnett hit WTF level. Still, two out of three ain't bad. And if they don't sign Burnett, maybe the Sox don't think Boras is bluffing? [5] Sorry, but the money given to Burnett hit WTF level. Still, two out of three ain’t bad. And if they don’t sign Burnett, maybe the Sox don’t think Boras is bluffing?

]]> By: Paul http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/10/26/news-of-the-day-102609/#comment-236215 Paul Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:03:04 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=25465#comment-236215 If the Yankees pull this off, is there any question that Cashman and Girardi are together for the next decade? They're both plenty young and both plenty smart. If the Yankees pull this off, is there any question that Cashman and Girardi are together for the next decade? They’re both plenty young and both plenty smart.

]]> By: rbj http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/10/26/news-of-the-day-102609/#comment-236214 rbj Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:43:30 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=25465#comment-236214 [10] "We were picked to Win because everyone felt we would bludgeon our opponents… which we haven’t" you forgot one important word: <b>YET</b> [10] “We were picked to Win because everyone felt we would bludgeon our opponents… which we haven’t”

you forgot one important word: YET

]]> By: OldYanksFan http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/10/26/news-of-the-day-102609/#comment-236213 OldYanksFan Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:27:32 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=25465#comment-236213 [3] Gotta agree. Not to be a downer, but if we eliminate our opponents running mistakes and errors on really easy plays, it is 2 very tight series. We simply have not hit. ARod and CC have singlehandedly saved our bacon. We were picked to Win because everyone felt we would bludgeon our opponents... which we haven't. We got the HRs (many were solo jobs) but have not hit as a team except in one inning (6 runs in a loss). You are always going to see good pitching in the PS, but as William points out, the Angel's pitching wasn't great... yet our bats were still. On paper, we beat the Phils... but if you go based on their and our PS so far, they will kill us. Check it out: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/teams/batting?team=nyy&cat=OPS&season=2009&split=0&seasonType=3&type=reg 2 guys doing well 1 guy about average 6 guys in the toilet THAT lineup won't beat Philly. These 6 huys better start hitting [3] Gotta agree. Not to be a downer, but if we eliminate our opponents running mistakes and errors on really easy plays, it is 2 very tight series.

We simply have not hit. ARod and CC have singlehandedly saved our bacon. We were picked to Win because everyone felt we would bludgeon our opponents… which we haven’t. We got the HRs (many were solo jobs) but have not hit as a team except in one inning (6 runs in a loss).

You are always going to see good pitching in the PS, but as William points out, the Angel’s pitching wasn’t great… yet our bats were still. On paper, we beat the Phils… but if you go based on their and our PS so far, they will kill us.

Check it out: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/teams/batting?team=nyy&cat=OPS&season=2009&split=0&seasonType=3&type=reg
2 guys doing well
1 guy about average
6 guys in the toilet

THAT lineup won’t beat Philly.
These 6 huys better start hitting

]]> By: Shaun P. http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/10/26/news-of-the-day-102609/#comment-236212 Shaun P. Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:02:52 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=25465#comment-236212 [8] I'm not sure; maybe. But its hard to reason it out right now; I'm not in "think about the Phillies" mode - I'm still in "the Yanks are in the World Serious!" mode. [8] I’m not sure; maybe. But its hard to reason it out right now; I’m not in “think about the Phillies” mode – I’m still in “the Yanks are in the World Serious!” mode.

]]> By: Rich http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/10/26/news-of-the-day-102609/#comment-236211 Rich Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:33:30 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=25465#comment-236211 I would pair Po with AJ. I would pair Po with AJ.

]]> By: rbj http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/10/26/news-of-the-day-102609/#comment-236210 rbj Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:15:17 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=25465#comment-236210 [2] AJ, in game 2 will be pitching in NY, then the rotation for Philadelphia will probably be Andy, CC, ?Gaudin?, then back to NY for AJ and, if game 7 is necessary, CC + all hands on deck. So we'll only lose Posada with AJ, Godzilla will still be around. [2] AJ, in game 2 will be pitching in NY, then the rotation for Philadelphia will probably be Andy, CC, ?Gaudin?, then back to NY for AJ and, if game 7 is necessary, CC + all hands on deck.

So we’ll only lose Posada with AJ, Godzilla will still be around.

]]> By: BuckFoston http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/10/26/news-of-the-day-102609/#comment-236209 BuckFoston Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:09:29 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=25465#comment-236209 Cash may not be letting on, but there were durability worries with Santana. CC is very durable, as we can all see. He may have been gun shy on taking a risk on Santan after the Pavano fiasco. Cash may not be letting on, but there were durability worries with Santana. CC is very durable, as we can all see. He may have been gun shy on taking a risk on Santan after the Pavano fiasco.

]]> By: RagingTartabull http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/10/26/news-of-the-day-102609/#comment-236208 RagingTartabull Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:06:47 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=25465#comment-236208 [3] Agreed, it is kinda funny how right around the time we stopped hearing about "the baseball people" down in Tampa every off-season the "WTF?!" signings and trades stopped. Cash knows what he's doing, he's made moves that haven't worked out just like every other GM, but theres a difference between spending a ton...and spending it wisely. More often than not when he has been allowed to make the moves he thinks are best, free of meddling from the executive branch (Randy I'm looking in your direction) he's done the right thing. [3] Agreed, it is kinda funny how right around the time we stopped hearing about “the baseball people” down in Tampa every off-season the “WTF?!” signings and trades stopped.

Cash knows what he’s doing, he’s made moves that haven’t worked out just like every other GM, but theres a difference between spending a ton…and spending it wisely. More often than not when he has been allowed to make the moves he thinks are best, free of meddling from the executive branch (Randy I’m looking in your direction) he’s done the right thing.

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