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	<title>Comments on: How to Win the Serious</title>
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	<description>Baseball Blog by Alex Belth about the Yankees</description>
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		<title>By: Yankster</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/11/03/how-to-win-the-serious/comment-page-2/#comment-276295</link>
		<dc:creator>Yankster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 05:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess, won a game of chicken would be how that metaphor goes... it&#039;s too late for me. Thanks for a great thread folks. I can&#039;t wait for Joba and Hughes to start next year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess, won a game of chicken would be how that metaphor goes&#8230; it&#8217;s too late for me. Thanks for a great thread folks. I can&#8217;t wait for Joba and Hughes to start next year.</p>
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		<title>By: Yankster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yankster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 05:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The trick with Holliday and Bay is to be an active participant in driving up their price so the team that wins (hopefully not us) will have blow a lot of payroll in a bad year. For that to happen, we have to look very interested. The worst would be to write both of them off now and allow another team to pick them up near market value. The second worst would be paying over market value for them because we lost a game of chicken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The trick with Holliday and Bay is to be an active participant in driving up their price so the team that wins (hopefully not us) will have blow a lot of payroll in a bad year. For that to happen, we have to look very interested. The worst would be to write both of them off now and allow another team to pick them up near market value. The second worst would be paying over market value for them because we lost a game of chicken.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/11/03/how-to-win-the-serious/comment-page-2/#comment-276287</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 04:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[63] If I ever hear &quot;the Joba Rules&quot; spoken of again next season..if I want to follow a team that continally fails to develop good young pitchers, I&#039;ll become a Mets fan..

I feel strangely confident about tomorrow. No way in hell Pedro can duplicate his Game 2 performance, right? Right??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[63] If I ever hear &#8220;the Joba Rules&#8221; spoken of again next season..if I want to follow a team that continally fails to develop good young pitchers, I&#8217;ll become a Mets fan..</p>
<p>I feel strangely confident about tomorrow. No way in hell Pedro can duplicate his Game 2 performance, right? Right??</p>
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		<title>By: monkeypants</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/11/03/how-to-win-the-serious/comment-page-2/#comment-276284</link>
		<dc:creator>monkeypants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 03:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[57] I don&#039;t generally enjoy reading Steve Goldman, but lately he&#039;s been saying what I&#039;ve been thinking.  With regard to the &quot;imagine if we had Wang&quot; thoughts that have come to the fore with the three man rotation in the playoffs, this is merely the culmination of a series of decisions and events that goes well beyond Wang.  Goldman sums it up rightly, I think:

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If we say Burnett, or (in the future) Andy Pettitte, or CC Sabathia did not pitched well on short rest for reasons other than the missing day, we&#039;re making an assumption -- we can&#039;t know the real answer one way or another. No one can. That said, can we ask if the decision to change the pitchers&#039; routines was inevitable based on the talent the Yankees have on hand? Heck yes, we can ask, and heck no, it was not inevitable. The &quot;rise&quot; of Sergio Mitre coincided with the infliction of the bizarre and ever-changing Joba Rules II. Had the Yankees been less interested in giving Mitre chance after botched chance, and more alert to other options, such as pulling Alfredo Aceves and his low-leverage innings out of the bullpen (there is another righty long reliever out there) or (dare I say) stop worrying about the eighth inning and let Phil Hughes start, and the Yankees might have had another rotation option now.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[57] I don&#8217;t generally enjoy reading Steve Goldman, but lately he&#8217;s been saying what I&#8217;ve been thinking.  With regard to the &#8220;imagine if we had Wang&#8221; thoughts that have come to the fore with the three man rotation in the playoffs, this is merely the culmination of a series of decisions and events that goes well beyond Wang.  Goldman sums it up rightly, I think:</p>
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If we say Burnett, or (in the future) Andy Pettitte, or CC Sabathia did not pitched well on short rest for reasons other than the missing day, we&#8217;re making an assumption &#8212; we can&#8217;t know the real answer one way or another. No one can. That said, can we ask if the decision to change the pitchers&#8217; routines was inevitable based on the talent the Yankees have on hand? Heck yes, we can ask, and heck no, it was not inevitable. The &#8220;rise&#8221; of Sergio Mitre coincided with the infliction of the bizarre and ever-changing Joba Rules II. Had the Yankees been less interested in giving Mitre chance after botched chance, and more alert to other options, such as pulling Alfredo Aceves and his low-leverage innings out of the bullpen (there is another righty long reliever out there) or (dare I say) stop worrying about the eighth inning and let Phil Hughes start, and the Yankees might have had another rotation option now.
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		<title>By: monkeypants</title>
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		<dc:creator>monkeypants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 03:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[59] Maybe.  But I think it&#039;s time the organization stop fucking around with these guys in the BP.  Put them n the damned rotation and build up their innings.  Which leads to my next post...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[59] Maybe.  But I think it&#8217;s time the organization stop fucking around with these guys in the BP.  Put them n the damned rotation and build up their innings.  Which leads to my next post&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/11/03/how-to-win-the-serious/comment-page-2/#comment-276282</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 03:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poor Aki Iwamura, traded from the Rays to the Pirates...and poor me, I can look forward to many more Pirates &quot;highlights&quot; next season now that they have a Japanese player..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poor Aki Iwamura, traded from the Rays to the Pirates&#8230;and poor me, I can look forward to many more Pirates &#8220;highlights&#8221; next season now that they have a Japanese player..</p>
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		<title>By: The Hawk</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/11/03/how-to-win-the-serious/comment-page-2/#comment-276281</link>
		<dc:creator>The Hawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 03:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[57] I&#039;ve thought about that ... Can you imagine?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[57] I&#8217;ve thought about that &#8230; Can you imagine?</p>
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		<title>By: The Hawk</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Hawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 03:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[54], [55] You guys are nuts!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[54], [55] You guys are nuts!</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/11/03/how-to-win-the-serious/comment-page-2/#comment-276279</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 03:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[56] Mike Francesa has been a joke for years..a bully with limited knowledge of baseball. (Does he even know that much about football?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[56] Mike Francesa has been a joke for years..a bully with limited knowledge of baseball. (Does he even know that much about football?)</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 03:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All the commentary about the Yankees having only three starters/ 3-days rest yada yada yada...has everyone forgot that we lost CM Wang for the whole season? A healthy Wang as #3 (or #2) and things look very very different this series.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All the commentary about the Yankees having only three starters/ 3-days rest yada yada yada&#8230;has everyone forgot that we lost CM Wang for the whole season? A healthy Wang as #3 (or #2) and things look very very different this series.</p>
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