Comments on: Winter Meetings: Day One http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/12/07/winter-meetings-day-one/ Baseball Blog by Alex Belth about the Yankees Thu, 09 Sep 2010 01:47:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: williamnyy23 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/12/07/winter-meetings-day-one/comment-page-1/#comment-280733 williamnyy23 Tue, 08 Dec 2009 12:11:30 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=26914#comment-280733 [35] It appears that the Yankees will tell the Nats whom to select, and that player will become the one who is later named. Of course, the only draw back is Rule V players retain their status even after being traded, which means the Yankees would have to keep the player on the 25-man or offer him back. If that was to happen, the Yankees would gain $25,000, without having to pay the $50,000, which means the net return for Bruney would be $25,000 in cash. [35] It appears that the Yankees will tell the Nats whom to select, and that player will become the one who is later named. Of course, the only draw back is Rule V players retain their status even after being traded, which means the Yankees would have to keep the player on the 25-man or offer him back. If that was to happen, the Yankees would gain $25,000, without having to pay the $50,000, which means the net return for Bruney would be $25,000 in cash.

]]> By: williamnyy23 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/12/07/winter-meetings-day-one/comment-page-1/#comment-280732 williamnyy23 Tue, 08 Dec 2009 12:08:43 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=26914#comment-280732 [33] The idea of trading for a Rule V pick is very creative, but I wonder if the Yankees really have their eye on someone to whom they are willing to give a 25-man roster spot. If not, perhaps, they are looking to simply block a move by a competitor by selecting a player and then offering him back to his original team before spring training? Because simply removing Bruney from the 40-man and avoiding his arbitration payout is a plus, even a small consideration like that would be a plus. As for the Granderson deal, I think it make sense provided two things: (1) he is not being brought in to replace Damon; and (2) Jackson could not be used in a Halladay deal without Montero and Hughes (I could live with a Jax and Joba deal). Regarding #1, Granderson makes sense if the Yankees bring back Damon and Matsui. Then, he could man CF, while Melky vultures about 90-100 games (the same kind of plan I suggested with Cameron as the 4th man). That would give the Yankees a more potent outfield compared to last year as well as a youthful infusion and needed depth. Regarding #2, I really don’t mind giving up Jackson. He is a good prospect, but far from a great one. In fact, you might say that Jackson’s upside IS Granderson. My only reticence in dealing him would be he might be a central piece in a better deal, but it’s hard to really know that. [33] The idea of trading for a Rule V pick is very creative, but I wonder if the Yankees really have their eye on someone to whom they are willing to give a 25-man roster spot. If not, perhaps, they are looking to simply block a move by a competitor by selecting a player and then offering him back to his original team before spring training? Because simply removing Bruney from the 40-man and avoiding his arbitration payout is a plus, even a small consideration like that would be a plus.

As for the Granderson deal, I think it make sense provided two things: (1) he is not being brought in to replace Damon; and (2) Jackson could not be used in a Halladay deal without Montero and Hughes (I could live with a Jax and Joba deal).

Regarding #1, Granderson makes sense if the Yankees bring back Damon and Matsui. Then, he could man CF, while Melky vultures about 90-100 games (the same kind of plan I suggested with Cameron as the 4th man). That would give the Yankees a more potent outfield compared to last year as well as a youthful infusion and needed depth.

Regarding #2, I really don’t mind giving up Jackson. He is a good prospect, but far from a great one. In fact, you might say that Jackson’s upside IS Granderson. My only reticence in dealing him would be he might be a central piece in a better deal, but it’s hard to really know that.

]]> By: RIYank http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/12/07/winter-meetings-day-one/comment-page-1/#comment-280731 RIYank Tue, 08 Dec 2009 12:01:39 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=26914#comment-280731 <i>Mark Feinsand says Bruney was traded for the Nats’ Rule 5 draft pick.</i> Does that mean that the Yankees now own the Nationals' right to draft a Rule 5 player? That could actually be useful. Remember the Marlins in 1999. Well, we can always dream, right? Mark Feinsand says Bruney was traded for the Nats’ Rule 5 draft pick.

Does that mean that the Yankees now own the Nationals’ right to draft a Rule 5 player? That could actually be useful.

Remember the Marlins in 1999. Well, we can always dream, right?

]]> By: oncewent3for2 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/12/07/winter-meetings-day-one/comment-page-1/#comment-280730 oncewent3for2 Tue, 08 Dec 2009 07:38:59 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=26914#comment-280730 [20], [24] Finally picked up a copy yesterday. For any others looking to make a late acquisition: there were still a handful of copies to be had here: http://www.yelp.com/biz/casa-magazines-new-york [20], [24] Finally picked up a copy yesterday. For any others looking to make a late acquisition: there were still a handful of copies to be had here:
http://www.yelp.com/biz/casa-magazines-new-york

]]> By: randym77 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/12/07/winter-meetings-day-one/comment-page-1/#comment-280729 randym77 Tue, 08 Dec 2009 04:22:46 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=26914#comment-280729 <a href="http://twitter.com/BloggingBombers/status/6443470064" rel="nofollow">Mark Feinsand</a> says Bruney was traded for the Nats' Rule 5 draft pick. Sounds like the Yanks have their eye on someone. And it means trading Bruney doesn't really open up a roster spot. And <a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/10475170" rel="nofollow">Rosenthal</a> has this tidbit: <blockquote>This would be a blockbuster. The Yankees, Diamondbacks and Tigers have discussed a three-way trade that would send Tigers center fielder Curtis Granderson to New York and right-hander Edwin Jackson to Arizona, major-league sources say. The talks are at an impasse, according to one source. The proposed deal is being pushed by the D-Backs, but was rejected by at least one of the two other teams, the source says. While trade talks are fluid and the names involved could change, sources say the following scenario is under discussion: • The Yankees would receive Granderson from the Tigers and one or two prospects from the Diamondbacks. • The Diamondbacks would get Jackson from the Tigers and right-hander Ian Kennedy from the Yankees. • The Tigers would get right-hander Max Scherzer from the Diamondbacks, and center fielder Austin Jackson and left-handed relievers Phil Coke and Michael Dunn from the Yankees. -</blockquote> I don't mind giving up Coke, but I'll be crushed if the Yanks trade Ajax. Mark Feinsand says Bruney was traded for the Nats’ Rule 5 draft pick.

Sounds like the Yanks have their eye on someone. And it means trading Bruney doesn’t really open up a roster spot.

And Rosenthal has this tidbit:

This would be a blockbuster.

The Yankees, Diamondbacks and Tigers have discussed a three-way trade that would send Tigers center fielder Curtis Granderson to New York and right-hander Edwin Jackson to Arizona, major-league sources say.

The talks are at an impasse, according to one source. The proposed deal is being pushed by the D-Backs, but was rejected by at least one of the two other teams, the source says.

While trade talks are fluid and the names involved could change, sources say the following scenario is under discussion:

• The Yankees would receive Granderson from the Tigers and one or two prospects from the Diamondbacks.

• The Diamondbacks would get Jackson from the Tigers and right-hander Ian Kennedy from the Yankees.

• The Tigers would get right-hander Max Scherzer from the Diamondbacks, and center fielder Austin Jackson and left-handed relievers Phil Coke and Michael Dunn from the Yankees. -

I don’t mind giving up Coke, but I’ll be crushed if the Yanks trade Ajax.

]]> By: Diane Firstman http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/12/07/winter-meetings-day-one/comment-page-1/#comment-280728 Diane Firstman Tue, 08 Dec 2009 03:53:24 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=26914#comment-280728 [29] As long as you didn't hear "fisted into left"in your head [29]

As long as you didn’t hear “fisted into left”in your head

]]> By: weeping for brunnhilde http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/12/07/winter-meetings-day-one/comment-page-1/#comment-280727 weeping for brunnhilde Tue, 08 Dec 2009 03:42:24 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=26914#comment-280727 [29] Ha hah ah ah ah ha ha ha ah ha ah ha ha hh a!!!! Hear, hear. Oh, God, totally. I don't know why, but man, it creeps me out when he says that. What are you going to do with Kay? [29] Ha hah ah ah ah ha ha ha ah ha ah ha ha hh a!!!!

Hear, hear.

Oh, God, totally. I don’t know why, but man, it creeps me out when he says that.

What are you going to do with Kay?

]]> By: OldYanksFan http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/12/07/winter-meetings-day-one/comment-page-1/#comment-280726 OldYanksFan Tue, 08 Dec 2009 03:39:09 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=26914#comment-280726 [4] OPS-wise, Montero (so far) is well better then Jeter. Actually, better then Mattingly too. And Munson. And Murcer. Best bat since Mantle???? [4] OPS-wise, Montero (so far) is well better then Jeter. Actually, better then Mattingly too. And Munson. And Murcer. Best bat since Mantle????

]]> By: The Hawk http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/12/07/winter-meetings-day-one/comment-page-1/#comment-280725 The Hawk Tue, 08 Dec 2009 03:26:36 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=26914#comment-280725 I was jogging and for some reason Michael Kay saying "get off the schneid" popped into my head and I thought there are really some things I don't miss about the baseball season. I was jogging and for some reason Michael Kay saying “get off the schneid” popped into my head and I thought there are really some things I don’t miss about the baseball season.

]]> By: weeping for brunnhilde http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2009/12/07/winter-meetings-day-one/comment-page-1/#comment-280722 weeping for brunnhilde Tue, 08 Dec 2009 02:51:26 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=26914#comment-280722 [25] Wow, Diane, what an amazing experience that must have been. That just sounds like a dream. [25] Wow, Diane, what an amazing experience that must have been. That just sounds like a dream.

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