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		<title>By: williamnyy23</title>
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		<dc:creator>williamnyy23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 12:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[35] It appears that the Yankees will tell the Nats whom to select, and that player will become the one who is later named. Of course, the only draw back is Rule V players retain their status even after being traded, which means the Yankees would have to keep the player on the 25-man or offer him back. If that was to happen, the Yankees would gain $25,000, without having to pay the $50,000, which means the net return for Bruney would be $25,000 in cash.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[35] It appears that the Yankees will tell the Nats whom to select, and that player will become the one who is later named. Of course, the only draw back is Rule V players retain their status even after being traded, which means the Yankees would have to keep the player on the 25-man or offer him back. If that was to happen, the Yankees would gain $25,000, without having to pay the $50,000, which means the net return for Bruney would be $25,000 in cash.</p>
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		<title>By: williamnyy23</title>
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		<dc:creator>williamnyy23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 12:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[33] The idea of trading for a Rule V pick is very creative, but I wonder if the Yankees really have their eye on someone to whom they are willing to give a 25-man roster spot. If not, perhaps, they are looking to simply block a move by a competitor by selecting a player and then offering him back to his original team before spring training? Because simply removing Bruney from the 40-man and avoiding his arbitration payout is a plus, even a small consideration like that would be a plus.

As for the Granderson deal, I think it make sense provided two things: (1) he is not being brought in to replace Damon; and (2) Jackson could not be used in a Halladay deal without Montero and Hughes (I could live with a Jax and Joba deal).

Regarding #1, Granderson makes sense if the Yankees bring back Damon and Matsui. Then, he could man CF, while Melky vultures about 90-100 games (the same kind of plan I suggested with Cameron as the 4th man). That would give the Yankees a more potent outfield compared to last year as well as a youthful infusion and needed depth.

Regarding #2, I really don’t mind giving up Jackson. He is a good prospect, but far from a great one. In fact, you might say that Jackson’s upside IS Granderson. My only reticence in dealing him would be he might be a central piece in a better deal, but it’s hard to really know that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[33] The idea of trading for a Rule V pick is very creative, but I wonder if the Yankees really have their eye on someone to whom they are willing to give a 25-man roster spot. If not, perhaps, they are looking to simply block a move by a competitor by selecting a player and then offering him back to his original team before spring training? Because simply removing Bruney from the 40-man and avoiding his arbitration payout is a plus, even a small consideration like that would be a plus.</p>
<p>As for the Granderson deal, I think it make sense provided two things: (1) he is not being brought in to replace Damon; and (2) Jackson could not be used in a Halladay deal without Montero and Hughes (I could live with a Jax and Joba deal).</p>
<p>Regarding #1, Granderson makes sense if the Yankees bring back Damon and Matsui. Then, he could man CF, while Melky vultures about 90-100 games (the same kind of plan I suggested with Cameron as the 4th man). That would give the Yankees a more potent outfield compared to last year as well as a youthful infusion and needed depth.</p>
<p>Regarding #2, I really don’t mind giving up Jackson. He is a good prospect, but far from a great one. In fact, you might say that Jackson’s upside IS Granderson. My only reticence in dealing him would be he might be a central piece in a better deal, but it’s hard to really know that.</p>
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		<title>By: RIYank</title>
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		<dc:creator>RIYank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 12:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Mark Feinsand says Bruney was traded for the Nats’ Rule 5 draft pick.&lt;/i&gt;

Does that mean that the Yankees now own the Nationals&#039; right to draft a Rule 5 player? That could actually be useful.

Remember the Marlins in 1999. Well, we can always dream, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Mark Feinsand says Bruney was traded for the Nats’ Rule 5 draft pick.</i></p>
<p>Does that mean that the Yankees now own the Nationals&#8217; right to draft a Rule 5 player? That could actually be useful.</p>
<p>Remember the Marlins in 1999. Well, we can always dream, right?</p>
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		<title>By: oncewent3for2</title>
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		<dc:creator>oncewent3for2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 07:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[20], [24] Finally picked up a copy yesterday. For any others looking to make a late acquisition: there were still a handful of copies to be had here:
http://www.yelp.com/biz/casa-magazines-new-york</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[20], [24] Finally picked up a copy yesterday. For any others looking to make a late acquisition: there were still a handful of copies to be had here:<br />
<a href="http://www.yelp.com/biz/casa-magazines-new-york" rel="nofollow">http://www.yelp.com/biz/casa-magazines-new-york</a></p>
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		<title>By: randym77</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 04:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/BloggingBombers/status/6443470064&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mark Feinsand&lt;/a&gt; says Bruney was traded for the Nats&#039; Rule 5 draft pick.

Sounds like the Yanks have their eye on someone.  And it means trading Bruney doesn&#039;t really open up a roster spot.

And &lt;a href=&quot;http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/10475170&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Rosenthal&lt;/a&gt; has this tidbit:

&lt;blockquote&gt;This would be a blockbuster.

The Yankees, Diamondbacks and Tigers have discussed a three-way trade that would send Tigers center fielder Curtis Granderson to New York and right-hander Edwin Jackson to Arizona, major-league sources say.

The talks are at an impasse, according to one source. The proposed deal is being pushed by the D-Backs, but was rejected by at least one of the two other teams, the source says.

While trade talks are fluid and the names involved could change, sources say the following scenario is under discussion:

• The Yankees would receive Granderson from the Tigers and one or two prospects from the Diamondbacks.

• The Diamondbacks would get Jackson from the Tigers and right-hander Ian Kennedy from the Yankees.

• The Tigers would get right-hander Max Scherzer from the Diamondbacks, and center fielder Austin Jackson and left-handed relievers Phil Coke and Michael Dunn from the Yankees. -&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I don&#039;t mind giving up Coke, but I&#039;ll be crushed if the Yanks trade Ajax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://twitter.com/BloggingBombers/status/6443470064" rel="nofollow">Mark Feinsand</a> says Bruney was traded for the Nats&#8217; Rule 5 draft pick.</p>
<p>Sounds like the Yanks have their eye on someone.  And it means trading Bruney doesn&#8217;t really open up a roster spot.</p>
<p>And <a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/10475170" rel="nofollow">Rosenthal</a> has this tidbit:</p>
<blockquote><p>This would be a blockbuster.</p>
<p>The Yankees, Diamondbacks and Tigers have discussed a three-way trade that would send Tigers center fielder Curtis Granderson to New York and right-hander Edwin Jackson to Arizona, major-league sources say.</p>
<p>The talks are at an impasse, according to one source. The proposed deal is being pushed by the D-Backs, but was rejected by at least one of the two other teams, the source says.</p>
<p>While trade talks are fluid and the names involved could change, sources say the following scenario is under discussion:</p>
<p>• The Yankees would receive Granderson from the Tigers and one or two prospects from the Diamondbacks.</p>
<p>• The Diamondbacks would get Jackson from the Tigers and right-hander Ian Kennedy from the Yankees.</p>
<p>• The Tigers would get right-hander Max Scherzer from the Diamondbacks, and center fielder Austin Jackson and left-handed relievers Phil Coke and Michael Dunn from the Yankees. -</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t mind giving up Coke, but I&#8217;ll be crushed if the Yanks trade Ajax.</p>
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		<title>By: Diane Firstman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diane Firstman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 03:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[29]

As long as you didn&#039;t hear &quot;fisted into left&quot;in your head</description>
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<p>As long as you didn&#8217;t hear &#8220;fisted into left&#8221;in your head</p>
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		<title>By: weeping for brunnhilde</title>
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		<dc:creator>weeping for brunnhilde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 03:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[29] Ha hah ah ah ah ha ha ha ah ha ah ha ha hh a!!!!

Hear, hear.

Oh, God, totally.  I don&#039;t know why, but man, it creeps me out when he says that.  

What are you going to do with Kay?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[29] Ha hah ah ah ah ha ha ha ah ha ah ha ha hh a!!!!</p>
<p>Hear, hear.</p>
<p>Oh, God, totally.  I don&#8217;t know why, but man, it creeps me out when he says that.  </p>
<p>What are you going to do with Kay?</p>
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		<title>By: OldYanksFan</title>
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		<dc:creator>OldYanksFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 03:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[4] OPS-wise, Montero (so far) is well better then Jeter. Actually, better then Mattingly too. And Munson. And Murcer. Best bat since Mantle????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[4] OPS-wise, Montero (so far) is well better then Jeter. Actually, better then Mattingly too. And Munson. And Murcer. Best bat since Mantle????</p>
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		<title>By: The Hawk</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Hawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 03:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was jogging and for some reason Michael Kay saying &quot;get off the schneid&quot; popped into my head and I thought there are really some things I don&#039;t miss about the baseball season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was jogging and for some reason Michael Kay saying &#8220;get off the schneid&#8221; popped into my head and I thought there are really some things I don&#8217;t miss about the baseball season.</p>
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		<title>By: weeping for brunnhilde</title>
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		<dc:creator>weeping for brunnhilde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 02:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[25] Wow, Diane, what an amazing experience that must have been.  That just sounds like a dream.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[25] Wow, Diane, what an amazing experience that must have been.  That just sounds like a dream.</p>
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		<title>By: Chyll Will</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chyll Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 02:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[26] If I were to take a buyout, I&#039;d be sure to leave a Wall Street Journal. Seems more appropriate, all things considered...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[26] If I were to take a buyout, I&#8217;d be sure to leave a Wall Street Journal. Seems more appropriate, all things considered&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Diane Firstman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diane Firstman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 02:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Late-breaking news .... Jack Curry is taking a buyout and leaving the NY Times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Late-breaking news &#8230;. Jack Curry is taking a buyout and leaving the NY Times.</p>
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		<title>By: Diane Firstman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diane Firstman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 02:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[24]

During my last semester at St. John&#039;s, I did an internship at Elias.  Seymour was old back then!  (This was 1985).  But he did know EVERYTHING about the game.  The office was filled with ledger books of old box scores.  It was like walking into a time capsule.</description>
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<p>During my last semester at St. John&#8217;s, I did an internship at Elias.  Seymour was old back then!  (This was 1985).  But he did know EVERYTHING about the game.  The office was filled with ledger books of old box scores.  It was like walking into a time capsule.</p>
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		<title>By: weeping for brunnhilde</title>
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		<dc:creator>weeping for brunnhilde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 02:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, this is *amazing!* (from the Angell piece, searching for the guy Cliff Lee reminded him of):

&quot;Then i remembered Hal Newhouser, the Tigers&#039; lefty ace in the nineteen-forties, who ate up batters much in the way that Lee does.  Later, I put my question in a phone call to Seymour Siwoff, the dean of the Elias Sports Bureau.  &#039;Hmm,&#039; he said when I mentioned the flying back leg, &#039;let me think about this for a minute.&#039;  There was a pause, and then he said, &#039;Why do I think it was somebody on the Tigers?&#039;&quot;

I mean my God, that&#039;s amazing.  Nearly seven deades of baseball ago.  I fucking LOVE this game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, this is *amazing!* (from the Angell piece, searching for the guy Cliff Lee reminded him of):</p>
<p>&#8220;Then i remembered Hal Newhouser, the Tigers&#8217; lefty ace in the nineteen-forties, who ate up batters much in the way that Lee does.  Later, I put my question in a phone call to Seymour Siwoff, the dean of the Elias Sports Bureau.  &#8216;Hmm,&#8217; he said when I mentioned the flying back leg, &#8216;let me think about this for a minute.&#8217;  There was a pause, and then he said, &#8216;Why do I think it was somebody on the Tigers?&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>I mean my God, that&#8217;s amazing.  Nearly seven deades of baseball ago.  I fucking LOVE this game.</p>
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		<title>By: Chyll Will</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chyll Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 01:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[22] See? It works!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[22] See? It works!</p>
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		<title>By: monkeypants</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 01:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[21] et al.

Man, you guys are harsh, piling on a guy as unlucky as Mitre. Cut him some slack---he was just a fifth starter after all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[21] et al.</p>
<p>Man, you guys are harsh, piling on a guy as unlucky as Mitre. Cut him some slack&#8212;he was just a fifth starter after all.</p>
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		<title>By: Chyll Will</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chyll Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 00:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[19] I believe any comment around here that includes &lt;i&gt;Mitre&lt;/i&gt; in it should automatically be considered sarcasm... &gt;;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[19] I believe any comment around here that includes <i>Mitre</i> in it should automatically be considered sarcasm&#8230; &gt;;)</p>
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		<title>By: weeping for brunnhilde</title>
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		<dc:creator>weeping for brunnhilde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 22:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, I&#039;m finally around to reading the Angell piece in the New Yorker and goddamn if we didn&#039;t have a magical year, and Jesus, how &#039;bout that postseason?  I&#039;m sitting here remembering just how amazing it was, how much drama, how many genuinely great baseball games we saw.  It&#039;s like it&#039;s just starting to sink in how special it all was, now that the adrenaline has long-subsided.  

It&#039;s making me feel nostalgic and above all, it&#039;s really really making me miss baseball.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I&#8217;m finally around to reading the Angell piece in the New Yorker and goddamn if we didn&#8217;t have a magical year, and Jesus, how &#8217;bout that postseason?  I&#8217;m sitting here remembering just how amazing it was, how much drama, how many genuinely great baseball games we saw.  It&#8217;s like it&#8217;s just starting to sink in how special it all was, now that the adrenaline has long-subsided.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s making me feel nostalgic and above all, it&#8217;s really really making me miss baseball.</p>
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		<title>By: ny2ca2dc</title>
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		<dc:creator>ny2ca2dc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 20:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ya that Mitre comment was a joke.</description>
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		<title>By: Raf</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 19:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[11] WRT building a bullpen, Cashman has been doing the same thing he has been doing; free agents (big ticket and scrap heap type players), waiver claims, and trades.

[15] I would be very surprised if the Yanks offered Mitre arbitration.  Guys like him are a dime a dozen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[11] WRT building a bullpen, Cashman has been doing the same thing he has been doing; free agents (big ticket and scrap heap type players), waiver claims, and trades.</p>
<p>[15] I would be very surprised if the Yanks offered Mitre arbitration.  Guys like him are a dime a dozen.</p>
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