Comments on: Yankee Panky: Johnny Dangerously

By: a.O

a.O — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 22:22:37 +0000

UZR = defensive quality. Not.

Good to see Nady found a home.

By: Horace Clarke Era

Horace Clarke Era — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 21:02:27 +0000

38/39 … what they said. I’d do the 5 million, except they might balk at bidding against themselves. There is next to no downside at this level, really. And there WILL be bloo … er, injuries.

And yes to the weird world where Sheets gets 10 million and Damon is looking at 2-3. Wow.

By: Chyll Will

Chyll Will — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 20:17:32 +0000

[31] E@#$ reporting that it’s 1yr./$10 million. Strange money. Flushing Toilets lose another option in the process; boy I’d hate to be in Citi Field on Opening Day unless I was really into schadenfreude. Jason Bay is probably drawing a big red circle around each payday on the 2010 calendar as we speak.

By: Mattpat11

Mattpat11 — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 20:13:08 +0000

[37] The Yankees still play 81 games in Yankee Stadium. A .915 OPS in Yankee Stadium is still quite good. I have no reason to believe he can’t run anymore, and I really not all that concerned with the development of 25 year old bench players.

By: williamnyy23

williamnyy23 — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 20:06:02 +0000

[37] There is no evidence to support that Damon can not run or hit (the Yankees do play 81 games at YS, so his 900+ OPS there is very valuable to them). Even in the field the case isn’t so clear cut. He rated pretty well in 2007 and 2008 as a LF’er. Even the most ardent UZR guy will tell you one year of data can be very deceptive.

Younger players are nice (Gardner and Hoffman are younger, but hardly prospects), but proven veterans are much more reliable, especially when you don’t have to pay them as such.

By: a.O

a.O — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 19:49:10 +0000

[36] Or just an old player who can no longer run, field, or hit (see [27]) and takes up a roster spot, thereby delaying the development of younger players like Gardner, Hoffman, etc.

By: Sliced Bread

Sliced Bread — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 18:52:30 +0000

[35] great idea. Cashman has to look at Damon not only as an offensive upgrade to Gardner, but also offensive insurance if Posada, or Nick Johnson get hurt (very possible), or if any other the other big bats have a bad year(also possible). I would have made Damon a priority this winter, but at this point they should do whatever they can to keep him from getting away.

By: williamnyy23

williamnyy23 — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 18:35:24 +0000

Damon must be scratching his head about how an often injured pitcher who missed an entire season could get $8-10mn, while he can’t get anything close.

[34] I am with you. Cashman has won the battle, so there is no reason to let Damon get away now. If this year’s budget is really so tight, they could always sign him to something like $2mn in 2010 with a $4mn player option for 2011 (and $3mn buy out). The benefit would be to guarantee Damon $5mn and push out the luxury cap hit over two seasons. The Yankees would have little risk on the option because it would only be $1mn over the buyout.

By: Sliced Bread

Sliced Bread — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 18:17:33 +0000

let’s go, Cash, sweeten the pot for Damon, and get this done. Get creative! Free hot dogs for life…. ten cent refills on draft beer … and a truckload of Matsui bobbleheads.

By: ms october

ms october — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 18:09:42 +0000

nady signed with the cubs per chad at lh (he doesn’t have details and i haven’t tried to find them anywhere else yet)

By: Sliced Bread

Sliced Bread — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 18:03:39 +0000

[31] aren’t the Braves still a possibility for Damon?

By: RagingTartabull

RagingTartabull — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 17:59:44 +0000

A’s signed Sheets for $8M according to Heyman.

so I mean really…I think we can feel safe taking our number 18 jerseys out of mothballs for this season.

By: Sliced Bread

Sliced Bread — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 17:47:16 +0000

I hope Cashman is taking advantage of this break in the weather to scavenge the Stadium with a metal detector for loose change for Damon.

1 year deal for our #2 hitter, and winter’s a wrap, Cash.

By: Horace Clarke Era

Horace Clarke Era — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 17:23:38 +0000

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By: Paul

Paul — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 17:21:45 +0000

By the way, another DH looks to be washed out of baseball…Jim Thome. And he’s good for a .850 OPS. Damon hits less and can barely play the field. If he finds the field at all in 2010, and repeats his awful 2009, he’s legitimately finished.

Of course McGwire is lying. But it’s easier to assume he’s finally telling the truth and move on. A-Rod and Papi got the same kid glove treatment after the fact. Most journalists are weak. That’s why they don’t ask the 70s and 80s players about greenies and cheating.

By: Paul

Paul — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 17:14:54 +0000

Damon is very close to washed up. A DH that can’t OPS .800? Outside of Yankee Stadium, that’s what he is.

The not-a-sport argument is lame. It always has been. There are plenty of Olympic sports where you could ask the same thing. For me, a good indicator is whether there’s a professional league. Bowling has a cherished place in American sports. It easily qualifies. Thanks for the Kulick mention. I would have missed it otherwise.

By: Horace Clarke Era

Horace Clarke Era — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 17:06:56 +0000

I don’t think Damon is remotely washed up. No indicators at all of that, though he is migrating towards a primary DH. And the Boras asking price, I’ve suggested, based on Win Shares was NOT out of line with value on the field, but it may have BECOME out of line with owner/management policy for aging players. That policy will produce huge bargains (Abreu last year, probably Damon this year somewhere).

It was also a push for Much-Loved Veteran bonus year, which Jorge got, but Damon won’t.

By: williamnyy23

williamnyy23 — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 17:04:49 +0000

[19] Yes, I agree that HGH and steroids are different. The former likely has no ehancement impact taken alone, while the latter probably has some level impact ranging from moderate to minimal (depending on a whole range of factors). I think the current consensus opinion is steroids help a lot, and HGH goes even further. I think both are way off base.

By: Mattpat11

Mattpat11 — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 16:58:23 +0000

I didn’t realize Damon was washed up.

By: a.O

a.O — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 16:42:13 +0000

It has been awesome watching Damon and Boras get pwned by the Cashman. But even better is
seeing Cashman end George’s legacy of overpaying for washed-up former stars at the expense of pitching and defense.

This team does not Damon and will not miss him. No matter who signs him, this year will show why he is not worth anything close to his asking price.