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		<title>By: wsporter</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/02/22/camp-classic/#comment-95541</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 03:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slice, head around the net a bit; it appears the guy may have some upside as a hitter and is already considered a plus defender. He may be worth moving a marginal and duplicate or superfluous arm in order to hang on to him for a look at SWB or even as an athletic 5th OF option if Thames can&#039;t get it done. 

Does the season hang in the balance based on Hoffman sticking in the organization? No. Does he have some value that may be interesting and worth moving a potential ML arm for? I think so. Hoffman represents the kind of low risk look that could turn into a high value pickup. Now, if Mitre heads out to La La Land and turns into a rubber armed swing man for Mr. T and Hoffman is continually hit in the head by pop ups and can&#039;t hit Johnny Puleo&#039;s weight then maybe we have a different conversation in August about the low risk thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slice, head around the net a bit; it appears the guy may have some upside as a hitter and is already considered a plus defender. He may be worth moving a marginal and duplicate or superfluous arm in order to hang on to him for a look at SWB or even as an athletic 5th OF option if Thames can&#8217;t get it done. </p>
<p>Does the season hang in the balance based on Hoffman sticking in the organization? No. Does he have some value that may be interesting and worth moving a potential ML arm for? I think so. Hoffman represents the kind of low risk look that could turn into a high value pickup. Now, if Mitre heads out to La La Land and turns into a rubber armed swing man for Mr. T and Hoffman is continually hit in the head by pop ups and can&#8217;t hit Johnny Puleo&#8217;s weight then maybe we have a different conversation in August about the low risk thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Sliced Bread</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/02/22/camp-classic/#comment-95540</link>
		<dc:creator>Sliced Bread</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 03:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[0] re: Iggy Flop

&quot;The Yankees should buy out the remainder of his contract and release him to open up a spot in the Triple-A rotation.&quot;

Ouch, but sadly true -- and probably too bold to happen.  The front-office thinking is probably: better to sweep such disastrous mistakes under the rug, rather than cop to them with bold DFA proclamations.

[18] You could be right about Mitre (L.A. or elsewhere), but re: Hoff, I&#039;m not being flip, but why would they want to retain him?  For depth, and the sake of saying they got something for Bruney? - or is there some honest to goodness upside here that I&#039;m dismissing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[0] re: Iggy Flop</p>
<p>&#8220;The Yankees should buy out the remainder of his contract and release him to open up a spot in the Triple-A rotation.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ouch, but sadly true &#8212; and probably too bold to happen.  The front-office thinking is probably: better to sweep such disastrous mistakes under the rug, rather than cop to them with bold DFA proclamations.</p>
<p>[18] You could be right about Mitre (L.A. or elsewhere), but re: Hoff, I&#8217;m not being flip, but why would they want to retain him?  For depth, and the sake of saying they got something for Bruney? &#8211; or is there some honest to goodness upside here that I&#8217;m dismissing?</p>
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		<title>By: wsporter</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 02:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still think the Yankees have something or will have something worked out with LA to retain Hoffman. I wonder if Mitre may be LA bound given the Park signing and the wealth of younger power arms on the way?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still think the Yankees have something or will have something worked out with LA to retain Hoffman. I wonder if Mitre may be LA bound given the Park signing and the wealth of younger power arms on the way?</p>
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		<title>By: Sliced Bread</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 02:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks as always, Cliff.  You rock!  I always come back to this post several times during Spring Training to see who&#039;s who, and what&#039;s what regarding the lesser-knowns and invitees.  Definitely some intriguing campers.  You dampened my expectations of Ivan Nova somewhat.  Somebody I recently read was higher on him, maybe Chad or one of the other Lo Hud guys -- and since Ivan Nova is a spectacular name, I was looking forward to seeing him deal.  Anyway, I can&#039;t wait to see the players play.  Bring on the thaw, and meaningfully meaningless baseball!  I hate being rude to Oldman Winter, but get the fuck out, dude!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks as always, Cliff.  You rock!  I always come back to this post several times during Spring Training to see who&#8217;s who, and what&#8217;s what regarding the lesser-knowns and invitees.  Definitely some intriguing campers.  You dampened my expectations of Ivan Nova somewhat.  Somebody I recently read was higher on him, maybe Chad or one of the other Lo Hud guys &#8212; and since Ivan Nova is a spectacular name, I was looking forward to seeing him deal.  Anyway, I can&#8217;t wait to see the players play.  Bring on the thaw, and meaningfully meaningless baseball!  I hate being rude to Oldman Winter, but get the fuck out, dude!</p>
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		<title>By: rbj</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 20:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Cliff.  I&#039;m busy today &amp; tomorrow, so I&#039;m going to have to bookmark this post.  Lots of meat to digest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Cliff.  I&#8217;m busy today &amp; tomorrow, so I&#8217;m going to have to bookmark this post.  Lots of meat to digest.</p>
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		<title>By: The Mick536</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 19:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure I agree that the Sox have really added so much to say they have gotten stronger. 

Cameron be old. Can he hit. So what if every ball not hit to the monster will be caught. Even Jim Rice caught most of them. Catching still weak. What about the DH? Wakefield didn&#039;t last out the year. He be old. Backs are very tricky. No help on the side from Pawtucket or Portland. Will Beltre hit in Fenway&gt; Don&#039;t know. He hasn&#039;t been much lately.

DiceyK hasn&#039;t shown himself to be reliable and word has it he is somewhat troubled already. 

Who is on the bench? Where do they get their runs from? Wins over Baltimore saved them last year. The Orioles will not be a pushover this time around.

Lackey hasn&#039;t shown himself to be so great in Fenway. Beckett isn&#039;t who he was. Papelbon gave them some heart attacks last year.

I say Buckholtz doesn&#039;t last the year. When they don&#039;t score, he is gone for a bat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure I agree that the Sox have really added so much to say they have gotten stronger. </p>
<p>Cameron be old. Can he hit. So what if every ball not hit to the monster will be caught. Even Jim Rice caught most of them. Catching still weak. What about the DH? Wakefield didn&#8217;t last out the year. He be old. Backs are very tricky. No help on the side from Pawtucket or Portland. Will Beltre hit in Fenway&gt; Don&#8217;t know. He hasn&#8217;t been much lately.</p>
<p>DiceyK hasn&#8217;t shown himself to be reliable and word has it he is somewhat troubled already. </p>
<p>Who is on the bench? Where do they get their runs from? Wins over Baltimore saved them last year. The Orioles will not be a pushover this time around.</p>
<p>Lackey hasn&#8217;t shown himself to be so great in Fenway. Beckett isn&#8217;t who he was. Papelbon gave them some heart attacks last year.</p>
<p>I say Buckholtz doesn&#8217;t last the year. When they don&#8217;t score, he is gone for a bat.</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun P.</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/02/22/camp-classic/#comment-95535</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 19:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[0] Thank you Cliff, for my favorite preseason post.  This is simply awesome, as it always is.  

[4] No, because Mo is a lefty-killer, and so are Aceves (career vs LHB: .220/.263/.341 in 248 PA) and Robertson (career vs LHB: .219/.308/.305 in 146 PA), though in somewhat small sample sizes.

The best part of the Park signing - presuming he can keep up what he did in Philly the last couple of years - is that he and Marte are (probably) the primary set-up guys.  That means when Hughes is in the bullpen, he&#039;ll be used for multi-inning stints, to make sure he gets his innings count up.

Or at least a fan can dream.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[0] Thank you Cliff, for my favorite preseason post.  This is simply awesome, as it always is.  </p>
<p>[4] No, because Mo is a lefty-killer, and so are Aceves (career vs LHB: .220/.263/.341 in 248 PA) and Robertson (career vs LHB: .219/.308/.305 in 146 PA), though in somewhat small sample sizes.</p>
<p>The best part of the Park signing &#8211; presuming he can keep up what he did in Philly the last couple of years &#8211; is that he and Marte are (probably) the primary set-up guys.  That means when Hughes is in the bullpen, he&#8217;ll be used for multi-inning stints, to make sure he gets his innings count up.</p>
<p>Or at least a fan can dream.</p>
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		<title>By: Mattpat11</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/02/22/camp-classic/#comment-95534</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 18:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[12]http://i48.tinypic.com/2itq3b4.jpg</description>
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		<title>By: RagingTartabull</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/02/22/camp-classic/#comment-95533</link>
		<dc:creator>RagingTartabull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 18:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tweet of the day by Kepner

@TylerKepner: Ex-Yank Phil Coke sporting long hair, sideburns and Fu Manchu</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tweet of the day by Kepner</p>
<p>@TylerKepner: Ex-Yank Phil Coke sporting long hair, sideburns and Fu Manchu</p>
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		<title>By: Yankee Mama</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/02/22/camp-classic/#comment-95532</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 18:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great rundown. 

It&#039;s always at this time of year I have the fear of team implosion. I have trust issues!

I think they&#039;re going to miss the serviceability of Ok Dokey Cokey. 

Re: Kei Igawa. I asked myself, would I want 8 million dollars to be bad at what I do? After much soul searching, I&#039;ve decided that yes, yes I would.

I&#039;m ok with the Park signing. He has a little something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great rundown. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s always at this time of year I have the fear of team implosion. I have trust issues!</p>
<p>I think they&#8217;re going to miss the serviceability of Ok Dokey Cokey. </p>
<p>Re: Kei Igawa. I asked myself, would I want 8 million dollars to be bad at what I do? After much soul searching, I&#8217;ve decided that yes, yes I would.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m ok with the Park signing. He has a little something.</p>
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		<title>By: Yankster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yankster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 17:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>awesome summary. 

Every Yankees fan I know will (after I&#039;m done with them) bookmark this page as a reference for both spring training and for the rest of the season. Thanks for the easily read summary for those of us who only follow a few of the minor league players.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>awesome summary. </p>
<p>Every Yankees fan I know will (after I&#8217;m done with them) bookmark this page as a reference for both spring training and for the rest of the season. Thanks for the easily read summary for those of us who only follow a few of the minor league players.</p>
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		<title>By: Mattpat11</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/02/22/camp-classic/#comment-95530</link>
		<dc:creator>Mattpat11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 17:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[8] I hear if you walk into the bathroom and say &quot;ol Cokey&quot; three times, he appears and gives up a HR to a lefty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[8] I hear if you walk into the bathroom and say &#8220;ol Cokey&#8221; three times, he appears and gives up a HR to a lefty.</p>
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		<title>By: ms october</title>
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		<dc:creator>ms october</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 17:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great stuff as usual cliff.

[6] agree.
the only *good* thing about it is he can&#039;t have that hideous beard.

[4] i think it would be a nice option, but the yanks survived most of last year with one lhp in the pen - ole cokey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great stuff as usual cliff.</p>
<p>[6] agree.<br />
the only *good* thing about it is he can&#8217;t have that hideous beard.</p>
<p>[4] i think it would be a nice option, but the yanks survived most of last year with one lhp in the pen &#8211; ole cokey.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh Mulcahy</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/02/22/camp-classic/#comment-95528</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh Mulcahy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 17:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[2][6]  Park was the most effective arm in the Phillies&#039; bullpen last year.  He threw very hard and had downright filthy stuff, at times.  They offered him nearly $3MM to come back.  At $1.2 MM, before incentives, he&#039;s looking like a steal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[2][6]  Park was the most effective arm in the Phillies&#8217; bullpen last year.  He threw very hard and had downright filthy stuff, at times.  They offered him nearly $3MM to come back.  At $1.2 MM, before incentives, he&#8217;s looking like a steal.</p>
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		<title>By: RIYank</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 17:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is awesome, thanks Cliff!

[2] It&#039;s a good signing &lt;i&gt;if&lt;/i&gt; the powers that be are willing to cut their losses if Park stinks for five weeks. The only scary thought is too much &quot;let&#039;s give the crafty veteran plenty of chances to show that he&#039;s still got enough left in the tank blah blah blah.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is awesome, thanks Cliff!</p>
<p>[2] It&#8217;s a good signing <i>if</i> the powers that be are willing to cut their losses if Park stinks for five weeks. The only scary thought is too much &#8220;let&#8217;s give the crafty veteran plenty of chances to show that he&#8217;s still got enough left in the tank blah blah blah.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mattpat11</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mattpat11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 17:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[4] Do we really need more than one lefthander? I&#039;d like to give Girardi as few chances to JUST MAKE A MOVE as possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[4] Do we really need more than one lefthander? I&#8217;d like to give Girardi as few chances to JUST MAKE A MOVE as possible.</p>
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		<title>By: gary from chevy chase</title>
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		<dc:creator>gary from chevy chase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 16:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for putting -in one place - all of the data. Great job!

BTW, should we really be cioncerned that there&#039;s only 1 Lefthander in the BP, and there seem to be no real options for lefty relief in the minors (other that Kei Igotcha?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for putting -in one place &#8211; all of the data. Great job!</p>
<p>BTW, should we really be cioncerned that there&#8217;s only 1 Lefthander in the BP, and there seem to be no real options for lefty relief in the minors (other that Kei Igotcha?)</p>
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		<title>By: RagingTartabull</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 16:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m rooting for Reggie Corona...just because</description>
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		<title>By: Mattpat11</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mattpat11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 16:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t hate the Chan Ho Park signing, and I usually hate those things. I don&#039;t know what that means.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t hate the Chan Ho Park signing, and I usually hate those things. I don&#8217;t know what that means.</p>
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		<title>By: a.O</title>
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		<dc:creator>a.O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 16:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cliff, this is awesome -- another example of what makes the Banter such a great stop for the hard-core fans.</description>
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