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		<title>By: Alex Belth</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/06/21/million-dollar-movie-17/#comment-118931</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Belth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 10:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eh, well I thought CLOCKWORK, which I&#039;ve probably seen more times than any Kubrick movie (though I haven&#039;t seen it in years), has been written about too much. I thought BARRY L might have been fun, but we&#039;ve only got five days...LOL. I usually make suggestions to the crew but if they really, really wanted to write about a movie, I wouldn&#039;t stop them. I think FULL METAL JACKET is one of Kubrick&#039;s worst movies. The first half is very effective and if the movie ended then and there, it would be a little gem for Kubrick. I found the second half almost laughably poor. But hey, that&#039;s just me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eh, well I thought CLOCKWORK, which I&#8217;ve probably seen more times than any Kubrick movie (though I haven&#8217;t seen it in years), has been written about too much. I thought BARRY L might have been fun, but we&#8217;ve only got five days&#8230;LOL. I usually make suggestions to the crew but if they really, really wanted to write about a movie, I wouldn&#8217;t stop them. I think FULL METAL JACKET is one of Kubrick&#8217;s worst movies. The first half is very effective and if the movie ended then and there, it would be a little gem for Kubrick. I found the second half almost laughably poor. But hey, that&#8217;s just me.</p>
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		<title>By: Boatzilla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boatzilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 07:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[14] No Full Metal Jacket? No Clockwork Orange? BTW, thanks for mentioning Dispatches. For any of you who haven&#039;t read it, especially Americans who lived through the Vietnam Era (even as kids), I highly recommend it. It&#039;s like a cold, invigorating slap in the face. The prose is so lively, vivid and chewy, Herr puts you right on the battlefield and on the streets of Saigon. Originator of &quot;Get some, Get some.&quot; I can&#039;t wait to read that story about Kubrick, my favorite director.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[14] No Full Metal Jacket? No Clockwork Orange? BTW, thanks for mentioning Dispatches. For any of you who haven&#8217;t read it, especially Americans who lived through the Vietnam Era (even as kids), I highly recommend it. It&#8217;s like a cold, invigorating slap in the face. The prose is so lively, vivid and chewy, Herr puts you right on the battlefield and on the streets of Saigon. Originator of &#8220;Get some, Get some.&#8221; I can&#8217;t wait to read that story about Kubrick, my favorite director.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Belth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Belth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 23:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, yeah, I read two or three of those memoirs when I was in high school. They were funny. I have a bunch of the Goon Show scripts and about 50 of their shows on I-Tunes. It&#039;s good stuff.

No, the rest of the week is no secret. Cliff is doing Paths of Glory, Emma&#039;s got 2001, Jon&#039;s doing The Shinning and Matt is doing The Killing, I believe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, yeah, I read two or three of those memoirs when I was in high school. They were funny. I have a bunch of the Goon Show scripts and about 50 of their shows on I-Tunes. It&#8217;s good stuff.</p>
<p>No, the rest of the week is no secret. Cliff is doing Paths of Glory, Emma&#8217;s got 2001, Jon&#8217;s doing The Shinning and Matt is doing The Killing, I believe.</p>
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		<title>By: cult of basebaal</title>
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		<dc:creator>cult of basebaal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 22:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;and was the brainchild of Spike Milligan, a comic madman and perhaps genius (and I don’t use that word lightly).&lt;/i&gt;

No perhaps about it, Milligan was a comedic genius and he and the Goons were direct precursors to Monty Python, who insisted on casting him in &lt;i&gt;Life of Brian&lt;/i&gt; when they discovered Milligan was on holiday in Tunisia where they were filming:

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Spike Milligan had an unplanned cameo as a prophet ignored because his acolytes are chasing after Brian. By coincidence he was visiting his old World War II battlefields in Tunisia where the film was being made. The Pythons were alerted to this one morning and he was promptly included in the scene that just happened to be being filmed. He disappeared again in the afternoon before he could be included in any of the close-up or publicity shots for the film.
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Have you actually read his war memoirs?

I might have to go back and rewartch Lolita, I&#039;ve only seen it once and didn&#039;t particularily care for it. Can&#039;t exactly remember why with much clarity, but I&#039;m assuming I didn&#039;t find it humorous, if my overall reaction is anything like my reaction to the clip of Sellers and Mason linked above.

What are the rest of the movies for Kubrick Week, or is that a secret?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>and was the brainchild of Spike Milligan, a comic madman and perhaps genius (and I don’t use that word lightly).</i></p>
<p>No perhaps about it, Milligan was a comedic genius and he and the Goons were direct precursors to Monty Python, who insisted on casting him in <i>Life of Brian</i> when they discovered Milligan was on holiday in Tunisia where they were filming:</p>
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Spike Milligan had an unplanned cameo as a prophet ignored because his acolytes are chasing after Brian. By coincidence he was visiting his old World War II battlefields in Tunisia where the film was being made. The Pythons were alerted to this one morning and he was promptly included in the scene that just happened to be being filmed. He disappeared again in the afternoon before he could be included in any of the close-up or publicity shots for the film.
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<p>Have you actually read his war memoirs?</p>
<p>I might have to go back and rewartch Lolita, I&#8217;ve only seen it once and didn&#8217;t particularily care for it. Can&#8217;t exactly remember why with much clarity, but I&#8217;m assuming I didn&#8217;t find it humorous, if my overall reaction is anything like my reaction to the clip of Sellers and Mason linked above.</p>
<p>What are the rest of the movies for Kubrick Week, or is that a secret?</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Belth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Belth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 22:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>8) Oh, the verbal innuendo is terrific, the best part of the movie. Totally holds up, I think.

I never saw the Irons version but would like to. Frank Langella plays Quilty and Melaine Griffith plays Charlotte. It wasn&#039;t well received though I&#039;ve read that it is more fathful to the book. Weird, Adrian Lynne was a big Hollywood director--Flashdance, 9 1/2 Weeks, Fatal Attraction--and he&#039;s only made one movie since he did Lolita. Maybe the taboo was still too strong. I&#039;ve heard it&#039;s humorless, too, but I&#039;d be willing to give it a chance. Figure it&#039;s a very different movie from the Kubrick one, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>8) Oh, the verbal innuendo is terrific, the best part of the movie. Totally holds up, I think.</p>
<p>I never saw the Irons version but would like to. Frank Langella plays Quilty and Melaine Griffith plays Charlotte. It wasn&#8217;t well received though I&#8217;ve read that it is more fathful to the book. Weird, Adrian Lynne was a big Hollywood director&#8211;Flashdance, 9 1/2 Weeks, Fatal Attraction&#8211;and he&#8217;s only made one movie since he did Lolita. Maybe the taboo was still too strong. I&#8217;ve heard it&#8217;s humorless, too, but I&#8217;d be willing to give it a chance. Figure it&#8217;s a very different movie from the Kubrick one, though.</p>
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		<title>By: bags</title>
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		<dc:creator>bags</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 22:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jeez, alex. this is a tour de force. really nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jeez, alex. this is a tour de force. really nice.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 22:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post, AB. I&#039;m a Kubrick fan but remember not liking &quot;Lolita&quot; (or the book) in college..you&#039;ve convinced me to go back and watch it.

Peter Sellers was, of course, brilliant in almost everything...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post, AB. I&#8217;m a Kubrick fan but remember not liking &#8220;Lolita&#8221; (or the book) in college..you&#8217;ve convinced me to go back and watch it.</p>
<p>Peter Sellers was, of course, brilliant in almost everything&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Hawk</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Hawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 19:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is that VF piece the one that details the plot of AI? I read it when it came out then went back and found it again after AI came out. That&#039;s when I realized it confirmed the &quot;Spielbergian&quot; ending was Kubrick&#039;s.

Anyway, Lolita. I don&#039;t think I ever saw it, after reading that it was overly comedic and even broad. The book is so great and so narrator-centric - kinda like &quot;The Tell Tale Heart&quot;, the voice is  key - that I couldn&#039;t imagine it being effectively adapted. I saw the Adrian Lyne version and it seemed pretty close (though oddly humor&lt;i&gt;less&lt;/i&gt;), but still not in the same universe, really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is that VF piece the one that details the plot of AI? I read it when it came out then went back and found it again after AI came out. That&#8217;s when I realized it confirmed the &#8220;Spielbergian&#8221; ending was Kubrick&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Anyway, Lolita. I don&#8217;t think I ever saw it, after reading that it was overly comedic and even broad. The book is so great and so narrator-centric &#8211; kinda like &#8220;The Tell Tale Heart&#8221;, the voice is  key &#8211; that I couldn&#8217;t imagine it being effectively adapted. I saw the Adrian Lyne version and it seemed pretty close (though oddly humor<i>less</i>), but still not in the same universe, really.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon DeRosa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon DeRosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 19:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[5,6,7] Nice points. Seems like there was no way to fix the sturcture unless the sex was at the end.

I didn&#039;t watch this recently, how does the double-entendre hold up? Sometime, watching that verbal jujujitsu is amazing, sometimes, when it&#039;s not done so well, it&#039;s kinda funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[5,6,7] Nice points. Seems like there was no way to fix the sturcture unless the sex was at the end.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t watch this recently, how does the double-entendre hold up? Sometime, watching that verbal jujujitsu is amazing, sometimes, when it&#8217;s not done so well, it&#8217;s kinda funny.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 18:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, right. It&#039;s all about, as the come on says, how the hell are they gonna tell this story... Naaaaa-Na... na-na-naaaa-na cha-cha-cha!

I think this movie,if made now by the same people, would be even better. Because now, instead of the league of catholic whoevers putting pressure on you, you&#039;d have the opposite expectation. Show it all! No need to hold back! A remake could flip it on it&#039;s head. Using restraint and innuendo where we would expect explicit detail.

Never saw the jeremy irons version. Was it ANY, any good?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, right. It&#8217;s all about, as the come on says, how the hell are they gonna tell this story&#8230; Naaaaa-Na&#8230; na-na-naaaa-na cha-cha-cha!</p>
<p>I think this movie,if made now by the same people, would be even better. Because now, instead of the league of catholic whoevers putting pressure on you, you&#8217;d have the opposite expectation. Show it all! No need to hold back! A remake could flip it on it&#8217;s head. Using restraint and innuendo where we would expect explicit detail.</p>
<p>Never saw the jeremy irons version. Was it ANY, any good?</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Belth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Belth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 18:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>5) Totally! It&#039;s all about the tension from the innuendo, great call! That&#039;s exactly it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>5) Totally! It&#8217;s all about the tension from the innuendo, great call! That&#8217;s exactly it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 18:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, usually when you change the structure of something, it fixes the problem you were targeting but might create a new beast you never intended. Interesting that the fix just didn&#039;t work. Complicated.

Great write up though. Very thorough.

My feeling watching that movie was that all the tension came from the innuendo. Once the cat was out of the bag, and its Humbert and the petulant Lolita on the run... who cares really. That movie was all about the forbidden cherry pie...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, usually when you change the structure of something, it fixes the problem you were targeting but might create a new beast you never intended. Interesting that the fix just didn&#8217;t work. Complicated.</p>
<p>Great write up though. Very thorough.</p>
<p>My feeling watching that movie was that all the tension came from the innuendo. Once the cat was out of the bag, and its Humbert and the petulant Lolita on the run&#8230; who cares really. That movie was all about the forbidden cherry pie&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: kenboyer made me cry</title>
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		<dc:creator>kenboyer made me cry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 18:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow...thanks for this super piece on Lolita.  So much is brilliant about this film, and it really opened my eyes to what subversive comedy can do, how it makes you feel and think.  From the long distant camera work of the cars speeding across the landscape, to that scene of Lolita feeding eggs to Humbert...damn, the heady power of it.

Sellers as Quilty was almost frightening, how many times does he say, &quot;your lovely little girl&quot; in that scene you posted?

Hands down, even in imperfection, one of the funniest and satirical movies made.  Thanks again for your work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230;thanks for this super piece on Lolita.  So much is brilliant about this film, and it really opened my eyes to what subversive comedy can do, how it makes you feel and think.  From the long distant camera work of the cars speeding across the landscape, to that scene of Lolita feeding eggs to Humbert&#8230;damn, the heady power of it.</p>
<p>Sellers as Quilty was almost frightening, how many times does he say, &#8220;your lovely little girl&#8221; in that scene you posted?</p>
<p>Hands down, even in imperfection, one of the funniest and satirical movies made.  Thanks again for your work.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon DeRosa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon DeRosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 17:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[2] Good point. But it&#039;s interesting that Kubrick went to such great lengths to avoid a problem that ends up happening anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[2] Good point. But it&#8217;s interesting that Kubrick went to such great lengths to avoid a problem that ends up happening anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Belth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Belth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 17:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I just think after Shelley Winters gets bumped off the narrative loses some steam. But in the book the story that continues is Humbert&#039;s obsession with Lolita. Since Kubrick couldn&#039;t explore that eros, the narrative in the movie doesn&#039;t have anywhere to go. It falls flat. Especially because we already know the payoff, which was the gamble Kubrick took putting the final confrontation with Quilty as the opening scene. It still works, it&#039;s a great opening, but it helps muddy an already loose final half-an-hour in the movie.

It&#039;s too bad in a way, that the movie can&#039;t sustain it&#039;s level throughout but easy for me to shake off because most of it gives me so much pleasure. I just discard that last part of the movie, and these days usually don&#039;t watch the whole movie through to the end. Do the same thing with THE LADY EVE too. Just get the sweet stuff, skip the rest. LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I just think after Shelley Winters gets bumped off the narrative loses some steam. But in the book the story that continues is Humbert&#8217;s obsession with Lolita. Since Kubrick couldn&#8217;t explore that eros, the narrative in the movie doesn&#8217;t have anywhere to go. It falls flat. Especially because we already know the payoff, which was the gamble Kubrick took putting the final confrontation with Quilty as the opening scene. It still works, it&#8217;s a great opening, but it helps muddy an already loose final half-an-hour in the movie.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s too bad in a way, that the movie can&#8217;t sustain it&#8217;s level throughout but easy for me to shake off because most of it gives me so much pleasure. I just discard that last part of the movie, and these days usually don&#8217;t watch the whole movie through to the end. Do the same thing with THE LADY EVE too. Just get the sweet stuff, skip the rest. LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Jon DeRosa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon DeRosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 16:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex, early on you cited Kubrick&#039;s structural decision to alleviate 2nd half problems he had with the book. And then later you talk about how the second halfof the film fails and the book is superior there. What do you think happened?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex, early on you cited Kubrick&#8217;s structural decision to alleviate 2nd half problems he had with the book. And then later you talk about how the second halfof the film fails and the book is superior there. What do you think happened?</p>
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