Comments on: Hit the Bricks, Pal, and Beat It http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/08/03/hit-the-bricks-pal-and-beat-it-2/ Development site for Bronx Banter Blog's upcoming look and feel Wed, 19 Jun 2013 01:46:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: OldYanksFan http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/08/03/hit-the-bricks-pal-and-beat-it-2/#comment-129305 OldYanksFan Wed, 04 Aug 2010 10:18:41 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=38696#comment-129305 How big is the upgrade from Brains to Romine (over only 40% of our games)? Come PS time, we have possibly 21 games. I'm sure we all want Posada to catch more then 60% of them. So Joe will (correctly) handle Po with kid gloves for the rest of the season. How big is the upgrade from Brains to Romine (over only 40% of our games)?

Come PS time, we have possibly 21 games. I’m sure we all want Posada to catch more then 60% of them. So Joe will (correctly) handle Po with kid gloves for the rest of the season.

]]> By: Raf http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/08/03/hit-the-bricks-pal-and-beat-it-2/#comment-129304 Raf Wed, 04 Aug 2010 05:17:05 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=38696#comment-129304 [221] Was that when Brown decided he wanted to take his frustrations out on a dugout wall? [221] Was that when Brown decided he wanted to take his frustrations out on a dugout wall?

]]> By: jjmerlock http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/08/03/hit-the-bricks-pal-and-beat-it-2/#comment-129303 jjmerlock Wed, 04 Aug 2010 03:10:36 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=38696#comment-129303 [222] Yep. On a pure curiosity level, since I never catch any minor league games, there's a part of me that is just interested to see them play. But you're certainly right about the considerations at work in this situation. [222] Yep. On a pure curiosity level, since I never catch any minor league games, there’s a part of me that is just interested to see them play. But you’re certainly right about the considerations at work in this situation.

]]> By: RagingTartabull http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/08/03/hit-the-bricks-pal-and-beat-it-2/#comment-129302 RagingTartabull Wed, 04 Aug 2010 03:03:28 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=38696#comment-129302 [220] oh no doubt, he'll I'd say bring up Montero if I knew there was no downside. [220] oh no doubt, he’ll I’d say bring up Montero if I knew there was no downside.

]]> By: RagingTartabull http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/08/03/hit-the-bricks-pal-and-beat-it-2/#comment-129301 RagingTartabull Wed, 04 Aug 2010 03:02:36 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=38696#comment-129301 [217] nah Brown was the night before, Moose started that game [217] nah Brown was the night before, Moose started that game

]]> By: jjmerlock http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/08/03/hit-the-bricks-pal-and-beat-it-2/#comment-129300 jjmerlock Wed, 04 Aug 2010 03:00:30 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=38696#comment-129300 [218] I think it is extraordinarily safe to say that. Have to confess I've been starting to get curious, though. [218] I think it is extraordinarily safe to say that. Have to confess I’ve been starting to get curious, though.

]]> By: jjmerlock http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/08/03/hit-the-bricks-pal-and-beat-it-2/#comment-129299 jjmerlock Wed, 04 Aug 2010 02:59:42 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=38696#comment-129299 [214] If I'm remembering correctly, it felt like he put up some pretty pesky at bats for a while. He certainly had those excellent numbers with RISP going for a number of months. [214] If I’m remembering correctly, it felt like he put up some pretty pesky at bats for a while. He certainly had those excellent numbers with RISP going for a number of months.

]]> By: RagingTartabull http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/08/03/hit-the-bricks-pal-and-beat-it-2/#comment-129298 RagingTartabull Wed, 04 Aug 2010 02:58:31 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=38696#comment-129298 [212, 214] I think its safe to say that we are all equally ignorant of how ready Romine is. If the organization has any doubts, then keep him on the farm for right now. There's no point in retarding his development in the blind hope that he proves to be offensively game changing backup catcher...thats just no way to do things. [212, 214] I think its safe to say that we are all equally ignorant of how ready Romine is. If the organization has any doubts, then keep him on the farm for right now. There’s no point in retarding his development in the blind hope that he proves to be offensively game changing backup catcher…thats just no way to do things.

]]> By: Mattpat11 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/08/03/hit-the-bricks-pal-and-beat-it-2/#comment-129297 Mattpat11 Wed, 04 Aug 2010 02:58:04 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=38696#comment-129297 [209] That was the Kevin Brown game, IIRC [209] That was the Kevin Brown game, IIRC

]]> By: jjmerlock http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/08/03/hit-the-bricks-pal-and-beat-it-2/#comment-129296 jjmerlock Wed, 04 Aug 2010 02:57:53 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=38696#comment-129296 [213] We've had incidents that half-horrifyingly/half-hilariously have almost come to blows (team against team). One of them was even captured by a friend who was taking photographs of the game, so that was particularly great. What was amazing to see was that even though I had moved in front of a younger player to get in between him and the guy who was coming at him, my teammate who was a college wrestler and is still not to be messed with was like a good five steps in front of me and all over that. It <i>felt</i> like I had moved on that situation quickly, but slow is as slow does, apparently. The one thing the league has come to realize is that the first brawl will be the last brawl, because the permits will go bye-bye just like that. Doesn't mean there isn't still a lot of bristling and high emotions bubbling close to the surface, though! [213] We’ve had incidents that half-horrifyingly/half-hilariously have almost come to blows (team against team). One of them was even captured by a friend who was taking photographs of the game, so that was particularly great. What was amazing to see was that even though I had moved in front of a younger player to get in between him and the guy who was coming at him, my teammate who was a college wrestler and is still not to be messed with was like a good five steps in front of me and all over that. It felt like I had moved on that situation quickly, but slow is as slow does, apparently.

The one thing the league has come to realize is that the first brawl will be the last brawl, because the permits will go bye-bye just like that. Doesn’t mean there isn’t still a lot of bristling and high emotions bubbling close to the surface, though!

]]> By: monkeypants http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/08/03/hit-the-bricks-pal-and-beat-it-2/#comment-129295 monkeypants Wed, 04 Aug 2010 02:56:40 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=38696#comment-129295 [212] My guess is that the organization does not want to promote Romine or Montero because 1] it would necessitate moving him to the 40 man roster and using options, etc., and 2] more importantly they want both of them to get regular playing time. [212] My guess is that the organization does not want to promote Romine or Montero because 1] it would necessitate moving him to the 40 man roster and using options, etc., and 2] more importantly they want both of them to get regular playing time.

]]> By: Raf http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/08/03/hit-the-bricks-pal-and-beat-it-2/#comment-129294 Raf Wed, 04 Aug 2010 02:53:24 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=38696#comment-129294 [211] Starting? I would think that had always been the case. [212] The organization could think that he's not ready. They have shown to be pretty conservative with their players more often than not. [211] Starting? I would think that had always been the case.

[212] The organization could think that he’s not ready. They have shown to be pretty conservative with their players more often than not.

]]> By: Raf http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/08/03/hit-the-bricks-pal-and-beat-it-2/#comment-129293 Raf Wed, 04 Aug 2010 02:51:03 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=38696#comment-129293 [205] Oh, I agree, it's a blast. Even though I've come close to blows with several teammates, coaches and managers over the years, I loved the competition and had fun. [205] Oh, I agree, it’s a blast. Even though I’ve come close to blows with several teammates, coaches and managers over the years, I loved the competition and had fun.

]]> By: williamnyy23 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/08/03/hit-the-bricks-pal-and-beat-it-2/#comment-129292 williamnyy23 Wed, 04 Aug 2010 02:48:53 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=38696#comment-129292 [210] Is there a reason to not try Romine? At least dump Mitre and go with three catchers so Girardi could pinch hit for the BUC earlier in the game. Cervelli is playing way too much, which makes his futility more of an issue. This lineup has more issues than meets the eye. We just have to hope Swisher, Tex and Cano can stay hot for the final two months. It seems like Gardner is tailing off a little, so combined with Arod's malaise, those three have become absolutely vital. [210] Is there a reason to not try Romine? At least dump Mitre and go with three catchers so Girardi could pinch hit for the BUC earlier in the game. Cervelli is playing way too much, which makes his futility more of an issue.

This lineup has more issues than meets the eye. We just have to hope Swisher, Tex and Cano can stay hot for the final two months. It seems like Gardner is tailing off a little, so combined with Arod’s malaise, those three have become absolutely vital.

]]> By: jjmerlock http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/08/03/hit-the-bricks-pal-and-beat-it-2/#comment-129291 jjmerlock Wed, 04 Aug 2010 02:41:59 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=38696#comment-129291 [210] It's more the auto-out feeling he's been giving off for the last month plus. No question, it wouldn't be nearly as significant if the rest of the lineup was hitting. It may be a statistical wash, or worse for Molina, but it always felt like he just might pop one when you needed it. That's soft-headed thinking, obviously - although I do think pitchers are starting to find Cervelli to be an extremely restful spot in our lineup. [210] It’s more the auto-out feeling he’s been giving off for the last month plus.

No question, it wouldn’t be nearly as significant if the rest of the lineup was hitting. It may be a statistical wash, or worse for Molina, but it always felt like he just might pop one when you needed it. That’s soft-headed thinking, obviously – although I do think pitchers are starting to find Cervelli to be an extremely restful spot in our lineup.

]]> By: monkeypants http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/08/03/hit-the-bricks-pal-and-beat-it-2/#comment-129290 monkeypants Wed, 04 Aug 2010 02:37:35 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=38696#comment-129290 [208] Cervelli is not good. But is he worse than Molina? I doubt it, but maybe I'm wrong. It's sort of the nature of the beast with BUC. If the rest of the lineup keeps scuffling, though, they may have to think about pushing Posada into the lineup (behind the plate) more often than they seem to want. [208] Cervelli is not good. But is he worse than Molina? I doubt it, but maybe I’m wrong. It’s sort of the nature of the beast with BUC. If the rest of the lineup keeps scuffling, though, they may have to think about pushing Posada into the lineup (behind the plate) more often than they seem to want.

]]> By: williamnyy23 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/08/03/hit-the-bricks-pal-and-beat-it-2/#comment-129289 williamnyy23 Wed, 04 Aug 2010 02:35:17 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=38696#comment-129289 Is Matt still around? I uncovered a nugget he will love: The Yankees were held to three or fewer baserunners for the first time since September 4, 2004 against Baltimore. The pitcher that afternoon was... ...Sir SIdney Ponson Is Matt still around? I uncovered a nugget he will love:

The Yankees were held to three or fewer baserunners for the first time since September 4, 2004 against Baltimore. The pitcher that afternoon was…

…Sir SIdney Ponson

]]> By: jjmerlock http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/08/03/hit-the-bricks-pal-and-beat-it-2/#comment-129288 jjmerlock Wed, 04 Aug 2010 02:34:19 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=38696#comment-129288 [203] Everything you said is generally sound, but would you agree that Cervelli is starting to be a pretty clear negative? I think he's hit the wall. I have so little confidence when he comes to the plate. [203] Everything you said is generally sound, but would you agree that Cervelli is starting to be a pretty clear negative? I think he’s hit the wall. I have so little confidence when he comes to the plate.

]]> By: jjmerlock http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/08/03/hit-the-bricks-pal-and-beat-it-2/#comment-129287 jjmerlock Wed, 04 Aug 2010 02:32:09 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=38696#comment-129287 [201] I don't really have a side with the "different lineup" things. I think you're probably right. I didn't like moving Swisher out of the 2 hole, but in terms of more general moves up and down, I don't know that I have any issues with that. Personally, I've been messed up by moves to certain spots in the order, but then, I am a headcase, and you should only have a few of those on any team. [201] I don’t really have a side with the “different lineup” things. I think you’re probably right. I didn’t like moving Swisher out of the 2 hole, but in terms of more general moves up and down, I don’t know that I have any issues with that. Personally, I’ve been messed up by moves to certain spots in the order, but then, I am a headcase, and you should only have a few of those on any team.

]]> By: monkeypants http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/08/03/hit-the-bricks-pal-and-beat-it-2/#comment-129286 monkeypants Wed, 04 Aug 2010 02:32:03 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=38696#comment-129286 [204] Yes, starters should start more times than not. That does not mean that the same batters should hit in the same spot in the lineup every game. Nor does it mean that players with extreme platoon splits (like Granderson) shouldn't sit against certain matchups (platooning Grandy means he starts about 70% of the games, pretty much "more times than not"). And even the most physically sound starting C will usually sit at least one game a week, often two. Add it together and i think you will find, mathematically, it is very common for the lineup to be different from day to day. Seriously, look at the box scores of, say, the 1953 Yankees, that won 99 games and the WS. Lots of different lineups. [204] Yes, starters should start more times than not. That does not mean that the same batters should hit in the same spot in the lineup every game. Nor does it mean that players with extreme platoon splits (like Granderson) shouldn’t sit against certain matchups (platooning Grandy means he starts about 70% of the games, pretty much “more times than not”). And even the most physically sound starting C will usually sit at least one game a week, often two. Add it together and i think you will find, mathematically, it is very common for the lineup to be different from day to day.

Seriously, look at the box scores of, say, the 1953 Yankees, that won 99 games and the WS. Lots of different lineups.

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