Comments on: Hit the Bricks Pal and Beat It (Boom Bap Remix) http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/09/14/hit-the-bricks-pal-and-beat-it-boom-bap-remix/ Development site for Bronx Banter Blog's upcoming look and feel Sat, 18 May 2013 03:01:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: jjmerlock http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/09/14/hit-the-bricks-pal-and-beat-it-boom-bap-remix/#comment-138579 jjmerlock Wed, 15 Sep 2010 04:06:17 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=41067#comment-138579 [211] I'm not suggesting he called it, I'm suggesting his "I'm Joe Maddon and I never blink" BS is behind his unhesitating endorsement. I dislike him the same way I dislike Scioscia. You didn't reinvent the game just because they gave you a bunch of guys who throw high 90's and a lineup with nothing but guys who can beat you. Those Angels teams that tormented us were stacked. I never felt it was Scioscia beating us, but the stacked lineup, team speed, and nasty bullpen that took all those games. [211] I’m not suggesting he called it, I’m suggesting his “I’m Joe Maddon and I never blink” BS is behind his unhesitating endorsement.

I dislike him the same way I dislike Scioscia. You didn’t reinvent the game just because they gave you a bunch of guys who throw high 90′s and a lineup with nothing but guys who can beat you. Those Angels teams that tormented us were stacked. I never felt it was Scioscia beating us, but the stacked lineup, team speed, and nasty bullpen that took all those games.

]]> By: OldYanksFan http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/09/14/hit-the-bricks-pal-and-beat-it-boom-bap-remix/#comment-138578 OldYanksFan Wed, 15 Sep 2010 03:57:17 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=41067#comment-138578 While getting thrown out at 3rd with 2 outs is a cardinal sin, that doesn't mean you never try. It means you only try when the odds are heavily... HEAVILY in your favor. And frankly, after watching that play 3 times, it's a near miracle that we threw him out. I'm guessing Carl makes that 95 times out of 100, maybe more.... and that justifies the play. And did anyone notice the pick-up by ARod? It was more then a sort hop, but less then an inbetween hop. It was a tough play, and I think ARod was very surprised at the outcome. A very nice pick. While getting thrown out at 3rd with 2 outs is a cardinal sin, that doesn’t mean you never try. It means you only try when the odds are heavily… HEAVILY in your favor. And frankly, after watching that play 3 times, it’s a near miracle that we threw him out. I’m guessing Carl makes that 95 times out of 100, maybe more…. and that justifies the play.

And did anyone notice the pick-up by ARod? It was more then a sort hop, but less then an inbetween hop. It was a tough play, and I think ARod was very surprised at the outcome. A very nice pick.

]]> By: kenboyer made me cry http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/09/14/hit-the-bricks-pal-and-beat-it-boom-bap-remix/#comment-138577 kenboyer made me cry Wed, 15 Sep 2010 03:39:27 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=41067#comment-138577 [208] Crawford does not look to the bench for the green light on that play, so you can't say Maddon called it. He just said he supports Crawford on it. And, if he is that unpopular in TB, and eventually leaves, Maddon will have a multiple choice of teams who will want him. [208] Crawford does not look to the bench for the green light on that play, so you can’t say Maddon called it. He just said he supports Crawford on it. And, if he is that unpopular in TB, and eventually leaves, Maddon will have a multiple choice of teams who will want him.

]]> By: jjmerlock http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/09/14/hit-the-bricks-pal-and-beat-it-boom-bap-remix/#comment-138576 jjmerlock Wed, 15 Sep 2010 03:34:33 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=41067#comment-138576 I meant [202] (shakes head at own dumbness...). I meant [202] (shakes head at own dumbness…).

]]> By: jjmerlock http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/09/14/hit-the-bricks-pal-and-beat-it-boom-bap-remix/#comment-138575 jjmerlock Wed, 15 Sep 2010 03:33:54 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=41067#comment-138575 [206,7] There you go. I think you pretty much had it with 206 ; 0 [206,7] There you go. I think you pretty much had it with 206 ; 0

]]> By: jjmerlock http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/09/14/hit-the-bricks-pal-and-beat-it-boom-bap-remix/#comment-138574 jjmerlock Wed, 15 Sep 2010 03:32:22 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=41067#comment-138574 [201] Maddon is so full of shit. Of course, he believes fervently in his own image of the go, go , go Rays. The reason the Rays fanbase hates him is that over 162 games they see through his bullshit and the smoke he blows up his own rear end. There are times I'm pretty sure "the image of Joe Maddon" is what's paramount in his calculations. I've said it before - Maddon wins because they have a lot of good players. I wanted them to punish him for bringing in Lance Cormier, and was annoyed at them for letting Cormier look so good. [201] Maddon is so full of shit. Of course, he believes fervently in his own image of the go, go , go Rays.

The reason the Rays fanbase hates him is that over 162 games they see through his bullshit and the smoke he blows up his own rear end. There are times I’m pretty sure “the image of Joe Maddon” is what’s paramount in his calculations.

I’ve said it before – Maddon wins because they have a lot of good players. I wanted them to punish him for bringing in Lance Cormier, and was annoyed at them for letting Cormier look so good.

]]> By: cult of basebaal http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/09/14/hit-the-bricks-pal-and-beat-it-boom-bap-remix/#comment-138573 cult of basebaal Wed, 15 Sep 2010 03:31:00 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=41067#comment-138573 [206] Or something like that ... at least I <i>meant</i> to add that point in [202] [206] Or something like that … at least I meant to add that point in [202]

]]> By: cult of basebaal http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/09/14/hit-the-bricks-pal-and-beat-it-boom-bap-remix/#comment-138572 cult of basebaal Wed, 15 Sep 2010 03:29:57 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=41067#comment-138572 [204] Yeah, I added that in 202 =) [204] Yeah, I added that in 202

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]]> By: cult of basebaal http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/09/14/hit-the-bricks-pal-and-beat-it-boom-bap-remix/#comment-138571 cult of basebaal Wed, 15 Sep 2010 03:29:22 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=41067#comment-138571 [202] I should change that to, <i>I think</i> it's a bad (i.e. likely a poor outcome respective of the risk involved) play. [202] I should change that to, I think it’s a bad (i.e. likely a poor outcome respective of the risk involved) play.

]]> By: jjmerlock http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/09/14/hit-the-bricks-pal-and-beat-it-boom-bap-remix/#comment-138570 jjmerlock Wed, 15 Sep 2010 03:28:58 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=41067#comment-138570 [196] I watched Longoria hit that with the sound off. Granderson kept retreating, retreating, before it was clear to me that he had room. I definitely had a suddenly sick feeling watching the ball off his bat. [199] And I have to believe the math says don't go. It was a shock laser strike, but you also have to add the percentage of the time you might get thrown out to your math in the initial equation. [196] I watched Longoria hit that with the sound off. Granderson kept retreating, retreating, before it was clear to me that he had room. I definitely had a suddenly sick feeling watching the ball off his bat.

[199] And I have to believe the math says don’t go. It was a shock laser strike, but you also have to add the percentage of the time you might get thrown out to your math in the initial equation.

]]> By: cult of basebaal http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/09/14/hit-the-bricks-pal-and-beat-it-boom-bap-remix/#comment-138569 cult of basebaal Wed, 15 Sep 2010 03:27:14 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=41067#comment-138569 [201] And that's a reasonable decision. I disagree with the comparative risk/reward assessment, but, as they say ... that's basebaal. [201] And that’s a reasonable decision.

I disagree with the comparative risk/reward assessment, but, as they say … that’s basebaal.

]]> By: cult of basebaal http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/09/14/hit-the-bricks-pal-and-beat-it-boom-bap-remix/#comment-138568 cult of basebaal Wed, 15 Sep 2010 03:25:59 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=41067#comment-138568 [200] See 199. If the difference between what I said in 199 is > than the chance of Golson throwing him out ... it was a bad play. And ...If you don't know ... it's a bad play. It was a bad play. [200] See 199.

If the difference between what I said in 199 is > than the chance of Golson throwing him out … it was a bad play.

And …If you don’t know … it’s a bad play.

It was a bad play.

]]> By: kenboyer made me cry http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/09/14/hit-the-bricks-pal-and-beat-it-boom-bap-remix/#comment-138567 kenboyer made me cry Wed, 15 Sep 2010 03:25:52 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=41067#comment-138567 [199] Madden just said, that he wanted Crawford to take that risk. If the throw hits him and bounces away he can score. "Against Rivera we have to take risks" [199] Madden just said, that he wanted Crawford to take that risk. If the throw hits him and bounces away he can score. “Against Rivera we have to take risks”

]]> By: Hank Waddles http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/09/14/hit-the-bricks-pal-and-beat-it-boom-bap-remix/#comment-138566 Hank Waddles Wed, 15 Sep 2010 03:23:28 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=41067#comment-138566 [198] How often does Mo hit a batter with the bases loaded? I think Crawford did the right thing. A wild pitch isn't the only thing that could've scored him from third; even an infield single would've plated him. His only fault was that he didn't know what Golson was packing out there. [198] How often does Mo hit a batter with the bases loaded? I think Crawford did the right thing. A wild pitch isn’t the only thing that could’ve scored him from third; even an infield single would’ve plated him. His only fault was that he didn’t know what Golson was packing out there.

]]> By: cult of basebaal http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/09/14/hit-the-bricks-pal-and-beat-it-boom-bap-remix/#comment-138565 cult of basebaal Wed, 15 Sep 2010 03:22:50 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=41067#comment-138565 [197] I suppose the answer is ... what's the percentage of hits that Crawford *wouldn't* score from 2nd with 2 outs on vs those he would if was on 3rd + the chances of a WP/PB/Balk scoring him from 3rd as well. I'm not sure of that answer (mathmatically), but generally speaking, if that's the case, why, Why, WHY risk it? [197] I suppose the answer is … what’s the percentage of hits that Crawford *wouldn’t* score from 2nd with 2 outs on vs those he would if was on 3rd + the chances of a WP/PB/Balk scoring him from 3rd as well.

I’m not sure of that answer (mathmatically), but generally speaking, if that’s the case, why, Why, WHY risk it?

]]> By: cult of basebaal http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/09/14/hit-the-bricks-pal-and-beat-it-boom-bap-remix/#comment-138564 cult of basebaal Wed, 15 Sep 2010 03:19:35 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=41067#comment-138564 [195] Absolutely. What does being on 3rd (rather than 2nd) gain him with 2 out? How often does Mo throw a wild pitch? [195] Absolutely.

What does being on 3rd (rather than 2nd) gain him with 2 out?

How often does Mo throw a wild pitch?

]]> By: Hank Waddles http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/09/14/hit-the-bricks-pal-and-beat-it-boom-bap-remix/#comment-138563 Hank Waddles Wed, 15 Sep 2010 03:19:30 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=41067#comment-138563 Wow... I just finished watching the game. First Posada's blast, and then Golson! I actually don't think that was that bad a play by Crawford. Sure, it's a cardinal sin and all, but did anyone in the entire park, anyone watching, actually expect Golson to come up with a laser like that? That was a one-in-a-million play, and Crawford just had the misfortune of getting caught up in it. Damn, first place feels good. Wow… I just finished watching the game. First Posada’s blast, and then Golson! I actually don’t think that was that bad a play by Crawford. Sure, it’s a cardinal sin and all, but did anyone in the entire park, anyone watching, actually expect Golson to come up with a laser like that? That was a one-in-a-million play, and Crawford just had the misfortune of getting caught up in it.

Damn, first place feels good.

]]> By: Mattpat11 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/09/14/hit-the-bricks-pal-and-beat-it-boom-bap-remix/#comment-138562 Mattpat11 Wed, 15 Sep 2010 03:19:07 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=41067#comment-138562 Okay, now that we're safe, who else was sure Longoria won it off the bat? Okay, now that we’re safe, who else was sure Longoria won it off the bat?

]]> By: kenboyer made me cry http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/09/14/hit-the-bricks-pal-and-beat-it-boom-bap-remix/#comment-138561 kenboyer made me cry Wed, 15 Sep 2010 03:17:46 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=41067#comment-138561 That was some last inning. Longoria was a hair off on the bat for a walk off two run homer. Mo looked as nervous as Joe G. felt., Crawford out at third. 99.5% of the time, he makes it, was it a mistake for him to tag? That was some last inning. Longoria was a hair off on the bat for a walk off two run homer. Mo looked as nervous as Joe G. felt., Crawford out at third. 99.5% of the time, he makes it, was it a mistake for him to tag?

]]> By: jjmerlock http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/09/14/hit-the-bricks-pal-and-beat-it-boom-bap-remix/#comment-138560 jjmerlock Wed, 15 Sep 2010 03:08:09 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=41067#comment-138560 What on earth was Crawford thinking? How do you make that mistake the day after Gardner's bone-headed play? That throw was amazing. As a former outfielder, that kind of throw sends a shiver up my spine. I guess I'll take people's word that leaving Nova in wasn't crazy. I skipped the first seven innings, and for once, checked in on the good part of the night. Looking at the play by play, it sure looked like there was a spot at 6-3 where I would have brought in Robertson and said dammit, this shit stops now. Particularly after saving everyone for this game. But only if you actually, you know, want to win the division. Which I don't give a fig about for reasons of hanging meaningless banners, but because I think any opponent is going to be tough as heck, and YS is a big advantage in the PS. YS in the PS, I like that. But it sounds like watching it live it didn't seem like a terrible move. I'm glad tonight worked out. When Crawford reached, I was ready to go apoplectic again. What on earth was Crawford thinking? How do you make that mistake the day after Gardner’s bone-headed play?

That throw was amazing. As a former outfielder, that kind of throw sends a shiver up my spine.

I guess I’ll take people’s word that leaving Nova in wasn’t crazy. I skipped the first seven innings, and for once, checked in on the good part of the night. Looking at the play by play, it sure looked like there was a spot at 6-3 where I would have brought in Robertson and said dammit, this shit stops now. Particularly after saving everyone for this game. But only if you actually, you know, want to win the division. Which I don’t give a fig about for reasons of hanging meaningless banners, but because I think any opponent is going to be tough as heck, and YS is a big advantage in the PS. YS in the PS, I like that.

But it sounds like watching it live it didn’t seem like a terrible move.

I’m glad tonight worked out. When Crawford reached, I was ready to go apoplectic again.

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