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		<title>By: mhoward120</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/09/14/we-know-drama-and-twitter/#comment-138597</link>
		<dc:creator>mhoward120</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 20:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How come no love for Jorge in all these comments?  After all, his may well have been the key hit that turns this whole thing around.  Why not toast him in an appropriate way, say by opening a bottle of Jorge Posada Cabernet Sauvignon, which is actually not at all bad?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How come no love for Jorge in all these comments?  After all, his may well have been the key hit that turns this whole thing around.  Why not toast him in an appropriate way, say by opening a bottle of Jorge Posada Cabernet Sauvignon, which is actually not at all bad?</p>
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		<title>By: Raf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 16:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not only do I worry about a GWHR, I&#039;m just as worried about a ball off the catwalk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only do I worry about a GWHR, I&#8217;m just as worried about a ball off the catwalk.</p>
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		<title>By: OldYanksFan</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/09/14/we-know-drama-and-twitter/#comment-138595</link>
		<dc:creator>OldYanksFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 15:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[13] It&#039;s a very quick shot, but they showed Mo for a second after that ball was hit. Right after contact, he hung his head, and then reluctantly turned around to the outfield to watch. He thought it was gone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[13] It&#8217;s a very quick shot, but they showed Mo for a second after that ball was hit. Right after contact, he hung his head, and then reluctantly turned around to the outfield to watch. He thought it was gone.</p>
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		<title>By: Chyll Will</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/09/14/we-know-drama-and-twitter/#comment-138594</link>
		<dc:creator>Chyll Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 14:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad I tuned out when I did, I can&#039;t take the stress anymore.  Jorge must have had a red-ass moment when he tanked that one; The whole team should be fed up, if not fired up at all the things that led them to this point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad I tuned out when I did, I can&#8217;t take the stress anymore.  Jorge must have had a red-ass moment when he tanked that one; The whole team should be fed up, if not fired up at all the things that led them to this point.</p>
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		<title>By: rbj</title>
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		<dc:creator>rbj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 13:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[13] Of course my response to her would be &quot;you tell me.&quot;

Nice win.  I think Nova should replace Mitre or Gaudin in the bullpen for the postseason.  He is effective for a couple of innings.  Just not a starter this year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[13] Of course my response to her would be &#8220;you tell me.&#8221;</p>
<p>Nice win.  I think Nova should replace Mitre or Gaudin in the bullpen for the postseason.  He is effective for a couple of innings.  Just not a starter this year.</p>
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		<title>By: kenboyer made me cry</title>
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		<dc:creator>kenboyer made me cry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 13:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Golson said to our zippy Kim Jones (can&#039;t wait for her to ask Andy P. how his groin feels), that he was wary of just catching the ball, as he had trouble the night before on a pop up under that damn baseball colored roof.  That is why he was not in an aggressive throwing posture as he wanted to be sure of the catch.  

For me, the most fearful, breathtaking moment yesterday was Longoria&#039;s drive to center in the tenth, that could have been a 2 run walk off HR.  I thought it was gone, and he just missed it off the bat.  THAT, would have been crushing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Golson said to our zippy Kim Jones (can&#8217;t wait for her to ask Andy P. how his groin feels), that he was wary of just catching the ball, as he had trouble the night before on a pop up under that damn baseball colored roof.  That is why he was not in an aggressive throwing posture as he wanted to be sure of the catch.  </p>
<p>For me, the most fearful, breathtaking moment yesterday was Longoria&#8217;s drive to center in the tenth, that could have been a 2 run walk off HR.  I thought it was gone, and he just missed it off the bat.  THAT, would have been crushing.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon DeRosa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon DeRosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 13:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[11] You need to get a good run at it, but there is a such a thing as overloading the gun. You don&#039;t want to sacrifice accuracy, which is just as important as the velocity. MOST of these guys probably can&#039;t  put  a throw right on a base while running at full speed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[11] You need to get a good run at it, but there is a such a thing as overloading the gun. You don&#8217;t want to sacrifice accuracy, which is just as important as the velocity. MOST of these guys probably can&#8217;t  put  a throw right on a base while running at full speed.</p>
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		<title>By: OldYanksFan</title>
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		<dc:creator>OldYanksFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 13:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[9] You may be correct about the reason G caught the ball flat footed, but I have commented on this before.

Outfielders don&#039;t have that much to do. Watching (ALL of) them in games past, I would say that 90% of the time, they do NOT set up correctly for a throw in. It makes a BIG difference... maybe a second or so, as well as usually being able to get off a more powerful throw. Having your momentum moving forward as you catch the ball makes a big difference.

There is probably tape of it somewhere, but many years ago, I saw (on TV) Yaz make the prototypical run-catch-and-throw play. Yaz was a real balls-to-the-wall player, and made this play as exaggerated as it could be.

I would say normally, an OFer would setup 3 or 4 steps behind where they catch the ball... maybe 8&#039;-ish. On this fly ball to Yaz, the winning run was on 3rd, and it was a deepish fly ball.

Yaz must have set up 15&#039; deeper then where the ball was coming down. He waited... waited... waited... and then took off. He came in so hard, you could see he looked a bit off catching the ball. He made the catch, and still on the dead run, uncorked a dead overhand throw with such force, that he literally ended up flipping over forwards, and landing on his back.

The guy was safe, but Carl&#039;s play was really cool to watch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[9] You may be correct about the reason G caught the ball flat footed, but I have commented on this before.</p>
<p>Outfielders don&#8217;t have that much to do. Watching (ALL of) them in games past, I would say that 90% of the time, they do NOT set up correctly for a throw in. It makes a BIG difference&#8230; maybe a second or so, as well as usually being able to get off a more powerful throw. Having your momentum moving forward as you catch the ball makes a big difference.</p>
<p>There is probably tape of it somewhere, but many years ago, I saw (on TV) Yaz make the prototypical run-catch-and-throw play. Yaz was a real balls-to-the-wall player, and made this play as exaggerated as it could be.</p>
<p>I would say normally, an OFer would setup 3 or 4 steps behind where they catch the ball&#8230; maybe 8&#8242;-ish. On this fly ball to Yaz, the winning run was on 3rd, and it was a deepish fly ball.</p>
<p>Yaz must have set up 15&#8242; deeper then where the ball was coming down. He waited&#8230; waited&#8230; waited&#8230; and then took off. He came in so hard, you could see he looked a bit off catching the ball. He made the catch, and still on the dead run, uncorked a dead overhand throw with such force, that he literally ended up flipping over forwards, and landing on his back.</p>
<p>The guy was safe, but Carl&#8217;s play was really cool to watch.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon DeRosa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon DeRosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 13:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[9] Don&#039;t let Cliff bully you Will! Gotta have some offense to be a great game. A 0-0 tie for 10 and a half innings is not a great game. It&#039;s a great pitching performance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[9] Don&#8217;t let Cliff bully you Will! Gotta have some offense to be a great game. A 0-0 tie for 10 and a half innings is not a great game. It&#8217;s a great pitching performance.</p>
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		<title>By: Will Weiss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will Weiss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 12:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few thoughts ... 

[4] Thanks. It was fun to write. It was even more fun to follow the writers on Twitter when everything was going down. 

[6] Cliff, in as a baseball sense, I agree. However, while I respect your preference for the pitchers&#039; duel -- and I do, too -- the events of the last two innings made it a great game, in my opinion. It had a little bit of everything from an entertainment standpoint. That was my POV for the statement. Lot of different angles to be taken. 

[5] [7] ... Golson got himself square to make a throw. The reason he threw the ball from a flat-footed position, and I credit Marc Carig of the Ledger for this, was that he didn&#039;t think Crawford was going. He actually squared himself for a return throw to SECOND, not third. When he got the trigger from Granderson, he crow-hopped and fired off that seed. Pure adrenaline. He doesn&#039;t make that throw if he&#039;s not in a good body position, and he was. Again, that was my interpretation. I respect your observation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few thoughts &#8230; </p>
<p>[4] Thanks. It was fun to write. It was even more fun to follow the writers on Twitter when everything was going down. </p>
<p>[6] Cliff, in as a baseball sense, I agree. However, while I respect your preference for the pitchers&#8217; duel &#8212; and I do, too &#8212; the events of the last two innings made it a great game, in my opinion. It had a little bit of everything from an entertainment standpoint. That was my POV for the statement. Lot of different angles to be taken. </p>
<p>[5] [7] &#8230; Golson got himself square to make a throw. The reason he threw the ball from a flat-footed position, and I credit Marc Carig of the Ledger for this, was that he didn&#8217;t think Crawford was going. He actually squared himself for a return throw to SECOND, not third. When he got the trigger from Granderson, he crow-hopped and fired off that seed. Pure adrenaline. He doesn&#8217;t make that throw if he&#8217;s not in a good body position, and he was. Again, that was my interpretation. I respect your observation.</p>
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		<title>By: Just Fair</title>
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		<dc:creator>Just Fair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 11:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>O&#039; Connor tweets  &quot;goes seven games and each one resembles the first two games of this series.&quot;
No thanks.  I&#039;ll gnaw my fingers off and scare my dog to death.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>O&#8217; Connor tweets  &#8220;goes seven games and each one resembles the first two games of this series.&#8221;<br />
No thanks.  I&#8217;ll gnaw my fingers off and scare my dog to death.</p>
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		<title>By: jjmerlock</title>
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		<dc:creator>jjmerlock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 06:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[5] Very true. It is amazing to watch the play again and see no circling behind and coming in for momentum on the throw as we were always taught, and yet with one motion, the leverage and whip he gets on it is ridiculous. Reminds me of the live arms we marveled at when we went down to Florida in High School and played two of the top Florida teams (and got cartoonishly crushed).

I will say this on watching the last inning again (btw, the audio and action on mlb.tv is completely off for the whole game - the service is so incomprehensibly and regularly awful; only a monopoly...) - I don&#039;t think it even crossed Crawford&#039;s mind that he could be thrown out. The ball was not that deep, and I&#039;m pretty sure that most runners would not have chanced it, but with Crawford&#039;s speed and explosive start I don&#039;t think he even considered that taking third was anything but a layup. And it is true that it took an unlikely throw to get him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[5] Very true. It is amazing to watch the play again and see no circling behind and coming in for momentum on the throw as we were always taught, and yet with one motion, the leverage and whip he gets on it is ridiculous. Reminds me of the live arms we marveled at when we went down to Florida in High School and played two of the top Florida teams (and got cartoonishly crushed).</p>
<p>I will say this on watching the last inning again (btw, the audio and action on mlb.tv is completely off for the whole game &#8211; the service is so incomprehensibly and regularly awful; only a monopoly&#8230;) &#8211; I don&#8217;t think it even crossed Crawford&#8217;s mind that he could be thrown out. The ball was not that deep, and I&#8217;m pretty sure that most runners would not have chanced it, but with Crawford&#8217;s speed and explosive start I don&#8217;t think he even considered that taking third was anything but a layup. And it is true that it took an unlikely throw to get him.</p>
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		<title>By: Cliff Corcoran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cliff Corcoran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 05:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry, Will, but that wasn&#039;t even the best regular season game the Yankees played this series, though if you change &quot;game&quot; to &quot;win&quot; I think you&#039;re closer to the truth. Monday&#039;s game was an unbelievably great game until Girardi turned to Gaudin, at which point it became waiting for the Yankees to lose. Tuesday&#039;s was a terrible game (I mean, 7-7? Blech) with a great ending (for Yankee fans, at least).

Nice to finally see Golson&#039;s arm after &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/02/22/camp-classic/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;writing about it&lt;/a&gt; back in February.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry, Will, but that wasn&#8217;t even the best regular season game the Yankees played this series, though if you change &#8220;game&#8221; to &#8220;win&#8221; I think you&#8217;re closer to the truth. Monday&#8217;s game was an unbelievably great game until Girardi turned to Gaudin, at which point it became waiting for the Yankees to lose. Tuesday&#8217;s was a terrible game (I mean, 7-7? Blech) with a great ending (for Yankee fans, at least).</p>
<p>Nice to finally see Golson&#8217;s arm after <a href="http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/02/22/camp-classic/" rel="nofollow">writing about it</a> back in February.</p>
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		<title>By: cult of basebaal</title>
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		<dc:creator>cult of basebaal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 04:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[0]

&lt;i&gt;if you watched closely, you could see the play developing as Golson sped to circle the ball in order to catch it in optimal position for the throw to third base.&lt;/i&gt;

Well, NO.

If you watch the play, Golson actual catches the ball FLAT FOOTED and has to crow hop to get momentum on the throw to 3rd.

GREAT throw, LOUSY technique; the actual &quot;optimal position&quot; is to be &lt;i&gt;slightly&lt;/i&gt; deeper than the ball, so that you can be moving towards the infield at the moment of the catch.

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<p><i>if you watched closely, you could see the play developing as Golson sped to circle the ball in order to catch it in optimal position for the throw to third base.</i></p>
<p>Well, NO.</p>
<p>If you watch the play, Golson actual catches the ball FLAT FOOTED and has to crow hop to get momentum on the throw to 3rd.</p>
<p>GREAT throw, LOUSY technique; the actual &#8220;optimal position&#8221; is to be <i>slightly</i> deeper than the ball, so that you can be moving towards the infield at the moment of the catch.</p>
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		<title>By: The Hawk</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Hawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 04:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoyed this recap. It had a bounce to it.</description>
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		<title>By: Mattpat11</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mattpat11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 04:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[1] I was coming in to yell at you. We don&#039;t stand for typos of any sort here at the Banter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[1] I was coming in to yell at you. We don&#8217;t stand for typos of any sort here at the Banter</p>
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		<title>By: jjmerlock</title>
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		<dc:creator>jjmerlock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 04:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still can&#039;t get past the idea that there had to be a way to end up with a better option then Mitre in a &quot;blink and you lose&quot; position. 

And I&#039;m crazy enough that I&#039;m not a fan of planning for the playoffs until the Red Sox are dead and buried.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still can&#8217;t get past the idea that there had to be a way to end up with a better option then Mitre in a &#8220;blink and you lose&#8221; position. </p>
<p>And I&#8217;m crazy enough that I&#8217;m not a fan of planning for the playoffs until the Red Sox are dead and buried.</p>
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		<title>By: Will Weiss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will Weiss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 04:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CORRECTION: I know I messed up. Granderson made his catch off Ben Zobrist. It&#039;s in the process of being corrected. Sorry for the miscue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CORRECTION: I know I messed up. Granderson made his catch off Ben Zobrist. It&#8217;s in the process of being corrected. Sorry for the miscue.</p>
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