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	<title>Comments on: As Balzac said, &#8220;There Goes Another Novel&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: jalepa</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/09/28/as-balzac-said-there-goes-another-novel/#comment-140966</link>
		<dc:creator>jalepa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 21:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have trouble picking between The Wire and The West Wing (which had a precipitous drop in quality after Aaron Sorkin was ousted post Season 4). 

My solution to this small dilemma has always been to tell anyone who will listen that there are two shows that they must watch, because they are the greatest of all time.

The Wire is excellent in every single way. It is deliberate, but never boring. Thoughtful, without taking sides. Except for the side that continues to scream that things aren&#039;t so great in West Baltimore. The show is beautiful and epic. I love it. Just wish more people would&#039;ve loved it too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have trouble picking between The Wire and The West Wing (which had a precipitous drop in quality after Aaron Sorkin was ousted post Season 4). </p>
<p>My solution to this small dilemma has always been to tell anyone who will listen that there are two shows that they must watch, because they are the greatest of all time.</p>
<p>The Wire is excellent in every single way. It is deliberate, but never boring. Thoughtful, without taking sides. Except for the side that continues to scream that things aren&#8217;t so great in West Baltimore. The show is beautiful and epic. I love it. Just wish more people would&#8217;ve loved it too.</p>
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		<title>By: cult of basebaal</title>
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		<dc:creator>cult of basebaal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 06:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yo String ... where Wallace at???

Where Wallace at?!?!?!?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yo String &#8230; where Wallace at???</p>
<p>Where Wallace at?!?!?!?</p>
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		<title>By: Raf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 01:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Wire is a very good show.  It&#039;s quite a complex show as well, there are a lot of subtleties that you&#039;ll pick up upon repeated viewings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Wire is a very good show.  It&#8217;s quite a complex show as well, there are a lot of subtleties that you&#8217;ll pick up upon repeated viewings.</p>
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		<title>By: seamus</title>
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		<dc:creator>seamus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 19:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am one of those people who talks about The Wire as the best show ever.  Well, I haven&#039;t seen all shows, and my opinion is obviously somewhat subjective.  It&#039;s almost too thoughtful and gray to be more popular than it was.  I recommend it to everyone who lets me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am one of those people who talks about The Wire as the best show ever.  Well, I haven&#8217;t seen all shows, and my opinion is obviously somewhat subjective.  It&#8217;s almost too thoughtful and gray to be more popular than it was.  I recommend it to everyone who lets me.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Blankman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Blankman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 19:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[7] Great point. How do you compare The Wire to, say, The Mary Tyler Moore show to, say, The Twilight Zone?  They&#039;re all shows commonly thought of by critics and audiences to be among the very finest and they have almost nothing in common besides being television shows.   
That&#039;s why I said I&#039;m not going to expect the Wire to be the greatest thing I&#039;ve ever seen - but with all this praise it had better be damned good!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[7] Great point. How do you compare The Wire to, say, The Mary Tyler Moore show to, say, The Twilight Zone?  They&#8217;re all shows commonly thought of by critics and audiences to be among the very finest and they have almost nothing in common besides being television shows.<br />
That&#8217;s why I said I&#8217;m not going to expect the Wire to be the greatest thing I&#8217;ve ever seen &#8211; but with all this praise it had better be damned good!</p>
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		<title>By: The Hawk</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/09/28/as-balzac-said-there-goes-another-novel/#comment-140961</link>
		<dc:creator>The Hawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 19:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[9] Yeah Idris Elba was fine. Even the guy who played Carcetti, it was weird but it didn&#039;t sound foreign to me. But Dominic West just can&#039;t do it.

The interesting thing I took out of that article was Simon&#039;s thing about it being about the &quot;death of work&quot; ... So true. It&#039;s just so much about bullshit and red tape - on the professional, legal side anyway. It really shows how bogged down things are, how superficial, phony, etc.

But yes, too - such great, realistic characters. You end up talking about them like they&#039;re real! And the only one that has a kind of heightened fictional feel is a character for the ages, Omar Little.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[9] Yeah Idris Elba was fine. Even the guy who played Carcetti, it was weird but it didn&#8217;t sound foreign to me. But Dominic West just can&#8217;t do it.</p>
<p>The interesting thing I took out of that article was Simon&#8217;s thing about it being about the &#8220;death of work&#8221; &#8230; So true. It&#8217;s just so much about bullshit and red tape &#8211; on the professional, legal side anyway. It really shows how bogged down things are, how superficial, phony, etc.</p>
<p>But yes, too &#8211; such great, realistic characters. You end up talking about them like they&#8217;re real! And the only one that has a kind of heightened fictional feel is a character for the ages, Omar Little.</p>
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		<title>By: cult of basebaal</title>
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		<dc:creator>cult of basebaal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 18:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[7] Wait a while and then watch it again. It&#039;s worth it, I found myself noticing things I never had the 1st time through and admiring the spinning of the web even more because of it.

re: accent 

A friend played a clip of Idris Elba, who plays Stringer Bell, on a British daytime talk show, now I can&#039;t hear Stringer talk without hearing Idris which is funny, since I&#039;d not have guessed that he wasn&#039;t American the 1st time seeing the series.

An interesting melange of casting, American actors, British actors, 1st time actors who used to be in &#039;the game&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[7] Wait a while and then watch it again. It&#8217;s worth it, I found myself noticing things I never had the 1st time through and admiring the spinning of the web even more because of it.</p>
<p>re: accent </p>
<p>A friend played a clip of Idris Elba, who plays Stringer Bell, on a British daytime talk show, now I can&#8217;t hear Stringer talk without hearing Idris which is funny, since I&#8217;d not have guessed that he wasn&#8217;t American the 1st time seeing the series.</p>
<p>An interesting melange of casting, American actors, British actors, 1st time actors who used to be in &#8216;the game&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: cult of basebaal</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/09/28/as-balzac-said-there-goes-another-novel/#comment-140959</link>
		<dc:creator>cult of basebaal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 18:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great, GREAT show.

The novel comparison is quite apt, though I could see David Simon&#039;s hyperbalic self-promotion wearing thin.

So many wonderfully conceived and written characters, that feel so intrinsically lifelike and thoroughly human that I could discuss them for hours (and have).

The Wire is an enormous jigg-saw puzzle, that reveals and reflects and refracts the condition of so many Modern American cities: drugs, crime, poverty, addiction, corruption, the collapse of American manufacturing and the Urban Middle class, blight, gentrification, the failure of our schools, the stifling affects of bloat and entrenched bureaucracy that prevents change in city goverance, the school, the police, the hopeless abandonment of the homeless: the addicted, the poor, the mentally unstable.

All achieved through the weaving of an such amazing tapestry of characters that it rarely feels forced or didactic, and the spread of the story, the reach and drift as the plot begins to spiral farther and farther from its beginnings, feels utterly organic, as inter-connected as an ecosystem.

[1] I&#039;d go:

Season 4
Season 2
&gt;
Season 3
&gt;&gt;
Season 1
&gt;&gt;&gt;
Season 5

Season 4 might just be the finest season of drama I&#039;ve ever seen on television.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great, GREAT show.</p>
<p>The novel comparison is quite apt, though I could see David Simon&#8217;s hyperbalic self-promotion wearing thin.</p>
<p>So many wonderfully conceived and written characters, that feel so intrinsically lifelike and thoroughly human that I could discuss them for hours (and have).</p>
<p>The Wire is an enormous jigg-saw puzzle, that reveals and reflects and refracts the condition of so many Modern American cities: drugs, crime, poverty, addiction, corruption, the collapse of American manufacturing and the Urban Middle class, blight, gentrification, the failure of our schools, the stifling affects of bloat and entrenched bureaucracy that prevents change in city goverance, the school, the police, the hopeless abandonment of the homeless: the addicted, the poor, the mentally unstable.</p>
<p>All achieved through the weaving of an such amazing tapestry of characters that it rarely feels forced or didactic, and the spread of the story, the reach and drift as the plot begins to spiral farther and farther from its beginnings, feels utterly organic, as inter-connected as an ecosystem.</p>
<p>[1] I&#8217;d go:</p>
<p>Season 4<br />
Season 2<br />
&gt;<br />
Season 3<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
Season 1<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
Season 5</p>
<p>Season 4 might just be the finest season of drama I&#8217;ve ever seen on television.</p>
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		<title>By: The Hawk</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Hawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 18:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I finished the Wire finally, last week, I just wanted to start it again. The only drawback to the show is McNulty&#039;s godawful accent. Even that I got used to after a couple seasons.

Anyway it&#039;s hard to compare shows that have different parameters. But generally I&#039;d say the Wire is definitely in the top, top, top, top tier. It&#039;s just soooooo good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I finished the Wire finally, last week, I just wanted to start it again. The only drawback to the show is McNulty&#8217;s godawful accent. Even that I got used to after a couple seasons.</p>
<p>Anyway it&#8217;s hard to compare shows that have different parameters. But generally I&#8217;d say the Wire is definitely in the top, top, top, top tier. It&#8217;s just soooooo good.</p>
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		<title>By: weeping for brunnhilde</title>
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		<dc:creator>weeping for brunnhilde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 16:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alvi Singer.  

Nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alvi Singer.  </p>
<p>Nice.</p>
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		<title>By: ms october</title>
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		<dc:creator>ms october</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 15:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it&#039;s the shit that happens while you&#039;re waiting for moments that never come.

[3] haha, indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s the shit that happens while you&#8217;re waiting for moments that never come.</p>
<p>[3] haha, indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Blankman</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/09/28/as-balzac-said-there-goes-another-novel/#comment-140955</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Blankman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 14:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simon just won a MacArthur &quot;Genius&quot; grant, too.

I have yet to watch a minute of The Wire and I too have had folks tell me it may be the best show ever (I&#039;m skeptical, but still expecting a great show).  Alex, lemme know when you&#039;re going to dive in - maybe I&#039;ll do likewise so I have someone to jaw with about it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simon just won a MacArthur &#8220;Genius&#8221; grant, too.</p>
<p>I have yet to watch a minute of The Wire and I too have had folks tell me it may be the best show ever (I&#8217;m skeptical, but still expecting a great show).  Alex, lemme know when you&#8217;re going to dive in &#8211; maybe I&#8217;ll do likewise so I have someone to jaw with about it!</p>
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		<title>By: Just Fair</title>
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		<dc:creator>Just Fair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 14:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish I had not yet seen The Wire so I could enjoy it all over again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I had not yet seen The Wire so I could enjoy it all over again.</p>
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		<title>By: Toxic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toxic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 14:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d be tempted to say it&#039;s the best - so far. Criminally under-viewed over here, amount of people I know haven&#039;t even heard of it, thanks to the cowards at the BBC. Maybe they were just scared of people asking why the Beeb don&#039;t produce anything this good themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d be tempted to say it&#8217;s the best &#8211; so far. Criminally under-viewed over here, amount of people I know haven&#8217;t even heard of it, thanks to the cowards at the BBC. Maybe they were just scared of people asking why the Beeb don&#8217;t produce anything this good themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon DeRosa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon DeRosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2010 13:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Season 3 was my favorite. I&#039;ve also heard people give The Wire the &quot;best ever&quot; title, but I&#039;ve never heard from anybody that didn&#039;t enjoy it thoroughly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Season 3 was my favorite. I&#8217;ve also heard people give The Wire the &#8220;best ever&#8221; title, but I&#8217;ve never heard from anybody that didn&#8217;t enjoy it thoroughly.</p>
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