Comments on: Dandy http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/10/08/dandy-3/ Development site for Bronx Banter Blog's upcoming look and feel Thu, 20 Jun 2013 04:45:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: OldYanksFan http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/10/08/dandy-3/#comment-143923 OldYanksFan Sat, 09 Oct 2010 04:33:55 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=42584#comment-143923 [14] In my opinion, the Hall of Fame is for sustained greatness... not excellence. Jim Rice and many others are watering the Hall down. Career ERA+ Whitey: 133 Gomez: 126 Babe Ruth: 122 Guidrey: 119 Pettitte: 117 Stottlemyre: 112 Ruffing: 110 [14] In my opinion, the Hall of Fame is for sustained greatness… not excellence. Jim Rice and many others are watering the Hall down.

Career ERA+
Whitey: 133
Gomez: 126
Babe Ruth: 122
Guidrey: 119
Pettitte: 117
Stottlemyre: 112
Ruffing: 110

]]> By: Sliced Bread http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/10/08/dandy-3/#comment-143922 Sliced Bread Fri, 08 Oct 2010 21:20:39 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=42584#comment-143922 Posada too. Posada too.

]]> By: Sliced Bread http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/10/08/dandy-3/#comment-143921 Sliced Bread Fri, 08 Oct 2010 21:15:43 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=42584#comment-143921 This is where the Cooperstown politics loses me. Guys like Pettitte, Mattingly, Bernie, Moose. They exemplify sustained excellence. They're in my Hall of Fame. This is where the Cooperstown politics loses me. Guys like Pettitte, Mattingly, Bernie, Moose. They exemplify sustained excellence. They’re in my Hall of Fame.

]]> By: Matt Blankman http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/10/08/dandy-3/#comment-143920 Matt Blankman Fri, 08 Oct 2010 19:32:32 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=42584#comment-143920 [9] Very true - it's the old peak vs career value issue. If I have to win one series, Reynolds is in my rotation. [9] Very true – it’s the old peak vs career value issue. If I have to win one series, Reynolds is in my rotation.

]]> By: Dimelo http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/10/08/dandy-3/#comment-143919 Dimelo Fri, 08 Oct 2010 17:44:17 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=42584#comment-143919 [9] Yeah, at some point, all this PED talk will get watered down. [9] Yeah, at some point, all this PED talk will get watered down.

]]> By: williamnyy23 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/10/08/dandy-3/#comment-143918 williamnyy23 Fri, 08 Oct 2010 16:22:35 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=42584#comment-143918 [5] You could, but they seem to fall short in terms of both overall performance and innings pitched. [8] By the time Andy retires and five years pass (lets say 2017), I don't think PEDs will be as relevant. I also don't think he will be held to the same scrutiny because of extent of his usage (which I think most people believe). I also expect, Arod, Bonds, Clemens, etc. to make it into the Hall of Fame as well. [5] You could, but they seem to fall short in terms of both overall performance and innings pitched.

[8] By the time Andy retires and five years pass (lets say 2017), I don’t think PEDs will be as relevant. I also don’t think he will be held to the same scrutiny because of extent of his usage (which I think most people believe).

I also expect, Arod, Bonds, Clemens, etc. to make it into the Hall of Fame as well.

]]> By: Jon DeRosa http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/10/08/dandy-3/#comment-143917 Jon DeRosa Fri, 08 Oct 2010 15:58:17 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=42584#comment-143917 i see andy's # retired, but not getting into the hall via the writers ballot. the stats will be borderline at best plus the PED admission. i don't know that the dust settles enough in the 15 years to sort out how much extra credit to award to pitchers of this era due to the huge offense and to sort out how much to dock a guy for using PEDs. maybe down the road the veterans committee can make it happen. i see andy’s # retired, but not getting into the hall via the writers ballot.

the stats will be borderline at best plus the PED admission. i don’t know that the dust settles enough in the 15 years to sort out how much extra credit to award to pitchers of this era due to the huge offense and to sort out how much to dock a guy for using PEDs.

maybe down the road the veterans committee can make it happen.

]]> By: Mattpat11 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/10/08/dandy-3/#comment-143916 Mattpat11 Fri, 08 Oct 2010 15:17:51 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=42584#comment-143916 I think Pettitte made the HOF with last years playoffs. I think Pettitte made the HOF with last years playoffs.

]]> By: Shaun P. http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/10/08/dandy-3/#comment-143915 Shaun P. Fri, 08 Oct 2010 15:00:03 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=42584#comment-143915 [1] [4] I say yes, the four left-handers william mentioned for certain, and then a pick 'em between the 3 righties william mentioned. Oh, and no offense to whichever of the righties wasn't picked, but the 6th starter/swingman/longman out of the pen would have to be Allie Reynolds. [1] [4] I say yes, the four left-handers william mentioned for certain, and then a pick ‘em between the 3 righties william mentioned.

Oh, and no offense to whichever of the righties wasn’t picked, but the 6th starter/swingman/longman out of the pen would have to be Allie Reynolds.

]]> By: Matt Blankman http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/10/08/dandy-3/#comment-143914 Matt Blankman Fri, 08 Oct 2010 14:57:58 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=42584#comment-143914 [4] I think you can make a case for Hoyt, Pennock & Reynolds, too. [4] I think you can make a case for Hoyt, Pennock & Reynolds, too.

]]> By: williamnyy23 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/10/08/dandy-3/#comment-143913 williamnyy23 Fri, 08 Oct 2010 14:52:12 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=42584#comment-143913 [1] Good question. I think Ford is the clear ace, after which you can pretty much go with any of the following: Ruffing, Guidry, Gomez, Pettitte, Shawkey and Stottlemyre. [1] Good question. I think Ford is the clear ace, after which you can pretty much go with any of the following: Ruffing, Guidry, Gomez, Pettitte, Shawkey and Stottlemyre.

]]> By: lroibal http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/10/08/dandy-3/#comment-143912 lroibal Fri, 08 Oct 2010 14:49:06 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=42584#comment-143912 Andy's the man in a big spot, .679 winning percentage in the post season. not too shabby. Andy’s the man in a big spot, .679 winning percentage in the post season. not too shabby.

]]> By: rbj http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/10/08/dandy-3/#comment-143911 rbj Fri, 08 Oct 2010 14:39:27 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=42584#comment-143911 [1] Yes. And I put him in the HoF. Decent enough regular season numbers, but adding in the post season numbers puts him over the edge. Sure it's an expanded post season, but that's not his fault. And baseball's postseason is not as absurd as the NBA or NHL. Basically, Andy's pitched another season with the post season. And it's against high quality opponents. [1] Yes. And I put him in the HoF. Decent enough regular season numbers, but adding in the post season numbers puts him over the edge. Sure it’s an expanded post season, but that’s not his fault. And baseball’s postseason is not as absurd as the NBA or NHL.

Basically, Andy’s pitched another season with the post season. And it’s against high quality opponents.

]]> By: Jon DeRosa http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/10/08/dandy-3/#comment-143910 Jon DeRosa Fri, 08 Oct 2010 14:24:33 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=42584#comment-143910 pettitte get a spot in the all time yankee 5 man rotation? pettitte get a spot in the all time yankee 5 man rotation?

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