Comments on: And How Does That Make You Feel?

By: Raf

Raf — Thu, 02 Dec 2010 17:15:53 +0000

[11] Seems to me to be an awful lot of projection. There are many factors that lead to a player having an offseason. What many seem to refuse to point out is that players that have “failed” in NY also have had bad seasons before coming to NY. That would include Whitson, Rogers, Weaver, etc. I find it hilarious that Alex Rodriguez couldn’t handle NY despite winning the AL MVP award TWICE while playing in NY.

At this stage, I just say “meh, whatever” to the idea that NYC is some sort of hellish place to play.

By: The Mick536

The Mick536 — Thu, 02 Dec 2010 14:01:35 +0000

What better place to be depressed than NYC. You can be invisible if you want. Now, if he were thinking about playing for the Lake Monsters, here in Burlington, VT, he’d be advised to stay away. This place could give him an affective seasonal disorder in any season.

[8][9] Clarko doesn’t believe in climate change, either.

By: Shaun P.

Shaun P. — Thu, 02 Dec 2010 13:52:49 +0000

[3] I wonder if we are too quick to use NYC/stress as the reason for players underperforming in NY, but succeeding elsewhere. I’m not saying it doesn’t happen, I just wonder if there might be other circumstances.

Vazquez, for one, had some bad seasons in Chicago. He wasn’t great in Arizona, either. He had his worst season (2010) in NYC, yes, but that was also the year he lost 2-3 MPH off his fastball. Pretty hard to succeed when that happens. It could be age, it could be wear and tear over a 13 year career . . .

This is the kind of issue someone like Russell Carlton (Pizza Cutter), with a background in psychotherapy and research, might be able to study. If he wasn’t working for the Indians . . .

By: Alex Belth

Alex Belth — Thu, 02 Dec 2010 12:59:45 +0000

9) Yeah, I don’t even want to touch that one, just to leave it, “Well, that’s just like your opinion, man.”

By: RIYank

RIYank — Thu, 02 Dec 2010 12:02:38 +0000

[8] That will be $750, please.

But [7] I suspect you actually have no idea what psychiatry is. Psychiatrists are not their patients’ friends. They are their patients’ doctors.
I’m not a psychiatrist or a psychiatry patient, but I have a good friend who would probably be dead and if not then certainly a non-functioning wreck if it weren’t for psychiatry (and pharmacology).

By: Alex Belth

Alex Belth — Thu, 02 Dec 2010 11:43:30 +0000

7) wow…but how do you really feel?

By: clarko

clarko — Thu, 02 Dec 2010 11:15:01 +0000

thanks for a most intelligent post. I believe psychiatry to be complete rubbish. It is paying someone to be your friend. Why not just make a friend? It is very hard to do in NYC, where I was born, educated, and lived 50+ years.
NYC has changed and you can ridicule me for pointing this out-
apartments in NY (post 70′s) are mostly built out using metal frames (studs) and sheetrock. The metal acts as a conducting material, transforming our apartments into antennae. cell phones and even microwave ovens transmit and receive vast amounts of wave pollution, a fact that no one speaks or writes about. Underline the word fact. Metal studs are an oncologists best friend.
The energy in NYC has indeed changed and it is not only because of the famous rat race. It is an incredibly polluted environment and borderline head cases should beware- and not seek balance with shrinks. It is not worth the money to live in an environment that kills you. Grienke doesn’t strike me as the type to live in a Trump Towers and hit the bars on first ave- more likely to buy an estate in NJ and commute to the stadium with the occasional trip to midtown to shop or see a show, entertain intimate visitors., do baseball signings, etc.

By: Mattpat11

Mattpat11 — Thu, 02 Dec 2010 08:49:57 +0000

[1] It would also be the first time he pitched any kind of meaningful games.

By: thelarmis

thelarmis — Thu, 02 Dec 2010 05:30:33 +0000

well, if greinke does indeed play for the yankees, he sure as shit won’t be wearing #23 anymore!!!

By: omarcoming

omarcoming — Thu, 02 Dec 2010 02:24:54 +0000

Now that the Jeter storm has subsided we need a new topic. I guess this is as good as any.
Actually, trade speculation may be the lowest form of journalism. It belongs on Fox News between Megyn Kelly and Elliot Spitzer.

By: Bruce Markusen

Bruce Markusen — Thu, 02 Dec 2010 01:55:02 +0000

I like Craig, but I think he’s a bit off base here. A number of pitchers have blown up under the NYC spotlight, from Rick Reuschel to Eddie Whitson to Kenny Rogers to Carl Pavano to Javier Vazquez. All of these pitchers had success before coming to the Yankees and after leaving the Yankees, but all were disasters WITH the Yankees.

If Greinke has expressed any reservations about playing in NY, I wouldn’t waste a minute trying to trade for him. The Yankees have enough work to do this off season that they don’t need to get sidetracked with players who don’t want to play here.

Even if Greinke was keen on New York, the Yankees would have to give up Montero, leaving themselves without their starting catcher for 2010.

By: RagingTartabull

RagingTartabull — Thu, 02 Dec 2010 00:19:55 +0000

personally I find Greinke’s past honesty about his apprehension over playing in a major market refreshing. Plenty of guys in every sport, from A-Rod in the early NY years to LeBron today, talk a good game about wanting the spotlight only the shrink from it once its on. Its nice to hear someone be honest about their own limitations, even if they are self-imposed.

By: williamnyy23

williamnyy23 — Wed, 01 Dec 2010 23:53:40 +0000

New York may not be inherently stressful, but I think playing baseball in New York probably is. Why? Because there are so many people who care so very much about baseball, which means extra scrutiny. Also, although the city may accept migrants, it isn’t very welcoming of baseball players who underperform.