More on Miller above in new post from Emma.

I never get why people need to get voted in to these types of things. They are either historically important or they are not, should Mario Mendoza be referenced in the HOF? I think so because his name is used to refer to players hitting below .200. A fan should know these things.

It’s all political as william says and it’s all bs. I don’t really look at the HOF as some religious shrine, it’s just a place where a bunch of shit about baseball is collected.

Yes he was banned twice, but those bans were later rescinded or expired, and I think not putting him in during his lifetime is enough punishment.

As for Pete Rose, there has been a long standing, well publicized rule about not betting on games in which you have a duty to perform. That gets you automatically on the permanently ineligible list. And until 1990, that would not have made you ineligible for the HoF. until 1990 Shoeless Joe was eligible to be in the Hall. It wasn’t until after Pete Rose’s agreement with the commissioner that the HoF (a private organization with no contractual ties to MLB) changed its rules that permanently ineligible people were no longer eligible for the Hall.

Miller should also be in. Both Marvin & George before Pat.

[3] As for you, my friend, right on. The largest of all baseball g-ds is 42, for sure. Number 2 be either the Babe or Marvin Miller. Not sure where on the list Steiney lands, but, for right now, he ain’t even close.

To answer the humanitarian question, go back to what he did to Dave Winfield. I know Pete Rose bet on baseball. What effect it had on the game, except to do one of the games big no nos, one instituted after Arnold and Charley Comisky almost ruined the game for good, I don’t know. But to try to ruin a man’s life by digging up dirt on him, a man who was a player of some renown who was the face of the team for a period in the 80′s, that was a disgrace worthy of the lifetime ban he accepted and then weedled his way out of. Faye Vincente should be ashamed of himself.

You could leave out the conviction/pardon, the mistreatment of players/managers/staff/fans, the financial shenanigans, both present and past, and he still shouldn’t make it. What did he do that was so special as to rate being in the HoF, and if he did, why so soon?

Let us not forget that his own stars, ones who were here before him and those he bought and fired, turned against him, until he bought them back, well maybe not all of them. Some of them still don’t speak credibly about him–Gossage and Winfield. Jackson, whom I love, is a shill. Yogi is a shadow of his former self.

Putting Steinbrenner in will make the Pete Rose fans irate.