Comments on: Observations From Cooperstown: Andruw Jones and a Year of Loss http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/12/31/observations-from-cooperstown-andruw-jones-and-a-year-of-loss/ Development site for Bronx Banter Blog's upcoming look and feel Sat, 25 May 2013 05:23:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: Chyll Will http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/12/31/observations-from-cooperstown-andruw-jones-and-a-year-of-loss/#comment-153007 Chyll Will Fri, 31 Dec 2010 18:45:09 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=46355#comment-153007 I still don't get the criticism of the Yanks for not landing free agents who <i>chose</i> to sign elsewhere, and not even because the Yanks didn't offer enough money. If someone really doesn't want to be in New York, money's not gonna change that (and before you say C.C., he didn't say he disliked New York, he said he preferred the West Coast more, but signed here anyway.) You can start by blaming the idiot fans who spit on a player's wife. That's not a good look regardless of who it is. Cliff Lee says he chose Philly primarily based on what was good for his family. That may be questionable in our minds (Philly, really?), but it's not like we left them with a better impression. Money is relative after a certain point. As for the others, why shouldn't they want a bigger role on their team? If one team says you can start and another says you'll play occasionally, which would you choose, especially if the money is fairly even across the board? Their play will often bear out what kind of time they deserve, but if I were a player I would want a chance to start as opposed to knowing I'm only gonna be on the bench. So, I know this is heresy, but no one is obligated to do what the Yanks or the media or even us fans want. It's <i>free</i> agency; they live with the choice they make either way. Let the critics get over themselves, especially since they don't play the game anyway. /rant, Happy New Year, all. May all your personal progressions continue forward! >;) I still don’t get the criticism of the Yanks for not landing free agents who chose to sign elsewhere, and not even because the Yanks didn’t offer enough money. If someone really doesn’t want to be in New York, money’s not gonna change that (and before you say C.C., he didn’t say he disliked New York, he said he preferred the West Coast more, but signed here anyway.)

You can start by blaming the idiot fans who spit on a player’s wife. That’s not a good look regardless of who it is. Cliff Lee says he chose Philly primarily based on what was good for his family. That may be questionable in our minds (Philly, really?), but it’s not like we left them with a better impression. Money is relative after a certain point.

As for the others, why shouldn’t they want a bigger role on their team? If one team says you can start and another says you’ll play occasionally, which would you choose, especially if the money is fairly even across the board? Their play will often bear out what kind of time they deserve, but if I were a player I would want a chance to start as opposed to knowing I’m only gonna be on the bench.

So, I know this is heresy, but no one is obligated to do what the Yanks or the media or even us fans want. It’s free agency; they live with the choice they make either way. Let the critics get over themselves, especially since they don’t play the game anyway.

/rant, Happy New Year, all. May all your personal progressions continue forward! >;)

]]> By: williamnyy23 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/12/31/observations-from-cooperstown-andruw-jones-and-a-year-of-loss/#comment-153006 williamnyy23 Fri, 31 Dec 2010 18:03:15 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=46355#comment-153006 [3] It'll make me feel old too, but reliving past glory is one of the benefits of aging. I always remember envying my grandfather because he got to see Ruth, Gehrig, DiMaggio and Mantle. Maybe the youth of the next decade will envy us because we got to watch the core four? Or maybe they'll be too enamored with Jesus Montero? [3] It’ll make me feel old too, but reliving past glory is one of the benefits of aging. I always remember envying my grandfather because he got to see Ruth, Gehrig, DiMaggio and Mantle. Maybe the youth of the next decade will envy us because we got to watch the core four? Or maybe they’ll be too enamored with Jesus Montero?

]]> By: Bruce Markusen http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/12/31/observations-from-cooperstown-andruw-jones-and-a-year-of-loss/#comment-153005 Bruce Markusen Fri, 31 Dec 2010 17:39:25 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=46355#comment-153005 William, seeing Derek Jeter return for an Old-Timers' Day will really make me feel old! To William, Monkeypants, and all the other faithful readers and posters here, have a wonderful New Year. William, seeing Derek Jeter return for an Old-Timers’ Day will really make me feel old!

To William, Monkeypants, and all the other faithful readers and posters here, have a wonderful New Year.

]]> By: monkeypants http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/12/31/observations-from-cooperstown-andruw-jones-and-a-year-of-loss/#comment-153004 monkeypants Fri, 31 Dec 2010 16:48:15 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=46355#comment-153004 I was never a big Andruw Jones fan, but I am really coming to like this idea of adding him as a 4th OF. One would like to think that the Thames experience last year might convince the Yankees of the value of carrying a bench player or two who can hit the ball over the fence. I was never a big Andruw Jones fan, but I am really coming to like this idea of adding him as a 4th OF. One would like to think that the Thames experience last year might convince the Yankees of the value of carrying a bench player or two who can hit the ball over the fence.

]]> By: williamnyy23 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2010/12/31/observations-from-cooperstown-andruw-jones-and-a-year-of-loss/#comment-153003 williamnyy23 Fri, 31 Dec 2010 15:43:49 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=46355#comment-153003 Jones would be a perfect fit...wrote something about that the other day. This year has definitely seemed to have more than its fair share of mortality. The Yankees especially have seen their rank of legends thinned out, but luckily there are lots of reinforcements on the way. Guys like Jeter, Arod, Mariano, Posada, Pettitte, Bernie, etc. will all eventually take their rightful places in the Pantheon, and although I am not anxious to see them retire, do admit that I look forward to cheering for them on old timer's day. That's one of the reasons I wasn't thrilled with the criticism that Jeter received during his contract talks. Winning is very important, but with all due respect to Mr. Lombardi, it isn't the only thing. Jones would be a perfect fit…wrote something about that the other day.

This year has definitely seemed to have more than its fair share of mortality. The Yankees especially have seen their rank of legends thinned out, but luckily there are lots of reinforcements on the way. Guys like Jeter, Arod, Mariano, Posada, Pettitte, Bernie, etc. will all eventually take their rightful places in the Pantheon, and although I am not anxious to see them retire, do admit that I look forward to cheering for them on old timer’s day. That’s one of the reasons I wasn’t thrilled with the criticism that Jeter received during his contract talks. Winning is very important, but with all due respect to Mr. Lombardi, it isn’t the only thing.

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