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		<title>By: thelarmis</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2011/01/27/the-beauty-of-restraint/#comment-67746</link>
		<dc:creator>thelarmis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 23:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[6/7] i also like both Curtis Fuller and vampires. so there&#039;s that...

i guess you can call me a Comma Chameleon. eh eh eh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[6/7] i also like both Curtis Fuller and vampires. so there&#8217;s that&#8230;</p>
<p>i guess you can call me a Comma Chameleon. eh eh eh</p>
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		<title>By: RIYank</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 22:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[5] &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/url?url=http://ilike.myspacecdn.com/play%23Vampire%2BWeekend:Oxford%2BComma:20305101:m12351117&amp;rct=j&amp;sa=X&amp;ei=nfNBTYCwNoKClAfYuaAZ&amp;sqi=2&amp;ved=0CCQQ0wQwAg&amp;q=oxford+comma+vampire+weekend&amp;usg=AFQjCNFWr9mEOSa3NkMxe2puO0DnrQgc8g&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I don&#039;t give a damn about a... comma.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[5] <a href="http://www.google.com/url?url=http://ilike.myspacecdn.com/play%23Vampire%2BWeekend:Oxford%2BComma:20305101:m12351117&amp;rct=j&amp;sa=X&amp;ei=nfNBTYCwNoKClAfYuaAZ&amp;sqi=2&amp;ved=0CCQQ0wQwAg&amp;q=oxford+comma+vampire+weekend&amp;usg=AFQjCNFWr9mEOSa3NkMxe2puO0DnrQgc8g" rel="nofollow">I don&#8217;t give a damn about a&#8230; comma.</a></p>
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		<title>By: RIYank</title>
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		<dc:creator>RIYank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 22:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting.
Yeah, not too surprising that a Rimsky-Korsakov guy likes fuller music with plenty of notes!

I hate to say it, sounds so wishy-washy, but I like both styles. Depends on the context. I love Thomas Wolfe (not Tom so much) and Michael Chabon, both writers of lush thickets of words. But I also admire Hemingway and Dashiell Hammett.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting.<br />
Yeah, not too surprising that a Rimsky-Korsakov guy likes fuller music with plenty of notes!</p>
<p>I hate to say it, sounds so wishy-washy, but I like both styles. Depends on the context. I love Thomas Wolfe (not Tom so much) and Michael Chabon, both writers of lush thickets of words. But I also admire Hemingway and Dashiell Hammett.</p>
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		<title>By: thelarmis</title>
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		<dc:creator>thelarmis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 22:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[4] ha! yeah, i definitely use way way waaaaay too many commas! if, you, know, what, i, mean, haha!

my jazz trio - when we were working regularly - used to play &quot;One Note Samba&quot;. great tune!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[4] ha! yeah, i definitely use way way waaaaay too many commas! if, you, know, what, i, mean, haha!</p>
<p>my jazz trio &#8211; when we were working regularly &#8211; used to play &#8220;One Note Samba&#8221;. great tune!</p>
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		<title>By: The Mick536</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[1] My wife used to be a copy editor. She abhors commas. I write stream of conscious stuff. She x&#039;s the crap out of it. I hope you will have the time to read Gatsby. I go back once a year to hear different voices and to see scenes that I never saw before.

[2] As for Morandi, one of my favorites, my drawing teacher told me to check him out for a project called copy someone&#039;s work and then do your own. He may only have a few items on the canvas, but his work be far from minimal. Neither what I copied nor what I drew made any sense.

[2] As for the late Mr. Heinz, you know we share the utmost respect for him. At the mere mention of the story, I reread it before writing this post. Sheer genius.

Attended a Charles Lloyd Quartet concert Sunday night. He is a minimalist, I think. He said at a pre-concert lecture, and I am paraphrasing just a bit, &quot;... if I could find one note, one perfect note, that would be enough for me.&quot; Guy lives on a very high plane, he does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[1] My wife used to be a copy editor. She abhors commas. I write stream of conscious stuff. She x&#8217;s the crap out of it. I hope you will have the time to read Gatsby. I go back once a year to hear different voices and to see scenes that I never saw before.</p>
<p>[2] As for Morandi, one of my favorites, my drawing teacher told me to check him out for a project called copy someone&#8217;s work and then do your own. He may only have a few items on the canvas, but his work be far from minimal. Neither what I copied nor what I drew made any sense.</p>
<p>[2] As for the late Mr. Heinz, you know we share the utmost respect for him. At the mere mention of the story, I reread it before writing this post. Sheer genius.</p>
<p>Attended a Charles Lloyd Quartet concert Sunday night. He is a minimalist, I think. He said at a pre-concert lecture, and I am paraphrasing just a bit, &#8220;&#8230; if I could find one note, one perfect note, that would be enough for me.&#8221; Guy lives on a very high plane, he does.</p>
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		<title>By: thelarmis</title>
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		<dc:creator>thelarmis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 20:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[2] i hear ya, man. yeah, i sure do remember those 4 straight homers. off 2 padres relievers - one of which was trevor hoffmann - and nomar was one of the batters. i could be wrong on those memories, but... i didn&#039;t hear scully&#039;s call(s). or, if i did, on the highlights, i don&#039;t remember them.

maybe i shouldn&#039;t have used the word &quot;minimalistic.&quot; i do like some minimalism, but i&#039;m not a huge fan. i was using it as a poor substitute for simply playing *simply*.

i never read the Great Gatsby (i&#039;m not much of a book reader...), so i was just commenting on the quote that was here.

i also think &#039;restraint&#039; might not be a perfect correlation between writing and music. there are similarities, certainly, but not a flat out comparison. overall, i might prefer it in writing, &#039;coz i&#039;m not a great reader. i like and appreciate it in music, but i generally prefer &#039;fuller&#039; playing.

i&#039;m kinda sensitive to this sorta thing as an artist who makes a living expressing himself through notes &amp; rhythms. sometimes, i have a lot to say. sometimes, i don&#039;t. i understand both schools and have found the &#039;simpler&#039; crowd never really understands the &#039;busy/overplaying&#039; crowd and has harsh feelings towards them. however, you don&#039;t see that the other way around too very often.

on most of my jobs, i&#039;m required to play &quot;less.&quot; this is more than fine and i thoroughly enjoy it. but when i get in a situation where i&#039;m allowed to let loose, i feel like a caged tiger that just got a ticket to the wild and i&#039;m rip-roarin&#039; ready to embark upon a cathartic run through the jungle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[2] i hear ya, man. yeah, i sure do remember those 4 straight homers. off 2 padres relievers &#8211; one of which was trevor hoffmann &#8211; and nomar was one of the batters. i could be wrong on those memories, but&#8230; i didn&#8217;t hear scully&#8217;s call(s). or, if i did, on the highlights, i don&#8217;t remember them.</p>
<p>maybe i shouldn&#8217;t have used the word &#8220;minimalistic.&#8221; i do like some minimalism, but i&#8217;m not a huge fan. i was using it as a poor substitute for simply playing *simply*.</p>
<p>i never read the Great Gatsby (i&#8217;m not much of a book reader&#8230;), so i was just commenting on the quote that was here.</p>
<p>i also think &#8216;restraint&#8217; might not be a perfect correlation between writing and music. there are similarities, certainly, but not a flat out comparison. overall, i might prefer it in writing, &#8216;coz i&#8217;m not a great reader. i like and appreciate it in music, but i generally prefer &#8216;fuller&#8217; playing.</p>
<p>i&#8217;m kinda sensitive to this sorta thing as an artist who makes a living expressing himself through notes &amp; rhythms. sometimes, i have a lot to say. sometimes, i don&#8217;t. i understand both schools and have found the &#8216;simpler&#8217; crowd never really understands the &#8216;busy/overplaying&#8217; crowd and has harsh feelings towards them. however, you don&#8217;t see that the other way around too very often.</p>
<p>on most of my jobs, i&#8217;m required to play &#8220;less.&#8221; this is more than fine and i thoroughly enjoy it. but when i get in a situation where i&#8217;m allowed to let loose, i feel like a caged tiger that just got a ticket to the wild and i&#8217;m rip-roarin&#8217; ready to embark upon a cathartic run through the jungle.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Belth</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2) Interesting points, thanks man. I&#039;m not into minimalism and I think restraint is different than that. The other thing that is unfair about the Gatsby example, I admit, is that while I prefer the final sentence to the original, it&#039;s hard to tell out of context. Perhaps, the &quot;dazzled&quot; line works or doesn&#039;t work even more in the context of the page, chapter, etc.

One thing that comes to mind is a Vin Scully call I heard a few years ago. Remember when the Dodgers hit four straight homers in a game and later won it on a grand slam? Well, I heard about it and clicked on MLB to see the highlights. I found Scully&#039;s calls to be so non-existent that it was troubling (this coming from someone who is accustomed to Michael Kay&#039;s histrionics). Then a few days later I visited a friend, a Dodger fan, who had the game on dvr. When I watched the entire inning, Scully&#039;s lack of drama fit perfectly, it just was lousy as a highlight sound bite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2) Interesting points, thanks man. I&#8217;m not into minimalism and I think restraint is different than that. The other thing that is unfair about the Gatsby example, I admit, is that while I prefer the final sentence to the original, it&#8217;s hard to tell out of context. Perhaps, the &#8220;dazzled&#8221; line works or doesn&#8217;t work even more in the context of the page, chapter, etc.</p>
<p>One thing that comes to mind is a Vin Scully call I heard a few years ago. Remember when the Dodgers hit four straight homers in a game and later won it on a grand slam? Well, I heard about it and clicked on MLB to see the highlights. I found Scully&#8217;s calls to be so non-existent that it was troubling (this coming from someone who is accustomed to Michael Kay&#8217;s histrionics). Then a few days later I visited a friend, a Dodger fan, who had the game on dvr. When I watched the entire inning, Scully&#8217;s lack of drama fit perfectly, it just was lousy as a highlight sound bite.</p>
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		<title>By: thelarmis</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i understand the &quot;less is more&quot; concept, and sometimes it is rather effective. but this should not universally dismiss the &quot;more is more&quot; side of things.

i actually like the original draft of the Great Gatsby sentence. i&#039;m a &quot;comma&quot; fan, so i do dig the comma in the revision, but i definitely miss the &quot;dazzled by the alabaster light...&quot;. i don&#039;t find the flourish distracting, at all; in fact, i find it captivating. without that detail, it&#039;s sorta dull. i like the word &quot;threshold&quot; in there, too...

i&#039;m all about simple and minimalistic music, but i&#039;m also *very* much into deep expression with a lot of chops. tons of notes, busy &amp; complex rhythms, fast tempos. those characteristics don&#039;t all have to be combined.

i find that a lot of people simply dismiss busy/fast/complex music. file it under categories of &quot;technical&quot; and the like. usually, in my experience, it&#039;s by folks that don&#039;t have the capacity to understand the emotional depth and deep musical understanding of the player. and i&#039;m talking multiple genres here - classical, jazz, indian classical, fusion, heavy metal, et al.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i understand the &#8220;less is more&#8221; concept, and sometimes it is rather effective. but this should not universally dismiss the &#8220;more is more&#8221; side of things.</p>
<p>i actually like the original draft of the Great Gatsby sentence. i&#8217;m a &#8220;comma&#8221; fan, so i do dig the comma in the revision, but i definitely miss the &#8220;dazzled by the alabaster light&#8230;&#8221;. i don&#8217;t find the flourish distracting, at all; in fact, i find it captivating. without that detail, it&#8217;s sorta dull. i like the word &#8220;threshold&#8221; in there, too&#8230;</p>
<p>i&#8217;m all about simple and minimalistic music, but i&#8217;m also *very* much into deep expression with a lot of chops. tons of notes, busy &amp; complex rhythms, fast tempos. those characteristics don&#8217;t all have to be combined.</p>
<p>i find that a lot of people simply dismiss busy/fast/complex music. file it under categories of &#8220;technical&#8221; and the like. usually, in my experience, it&#8217;s by folks that don&#8217;t have the capacity to understand the emotional depth and deep musical understanding of the player. and i&#8217;m talking multiple genres here &#8211; classical, jazz, indian classical, fusion, heavy metal, et al.</p>
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