Comments on: In a Sentimental Mood http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2011/02/03/in-a-sentimental-mood-2/ Development site for Bronx Banter Blog's upcoming look and feel Sun, 19 May 2013 13:40:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: monkeypants http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2011/02/03/in-a-sentimental-mood-2/#comment-68109 monkeypants Fri, 04 Feb 2011 13:03:35 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=48010#comment-68109 [37] He undermined his own credibility by giving multiple explanations, each time after he was forced when more evidence was revealed. His initial "admission" was shown within two months to be a lie. That makes me a lot less likely to believe his second admission. [37] He undermined his own credibility by giving multiple explanations, each time after he was forced when more evidence was revealed. His initial “admission” was shown within two months to be a lie. That makes me a lot less likely to believe his second admission.

]]> By: Chyll Will http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2011/02/03/in-a-sentimental-mood-2/#comment-68108 Chyll Will Fri, 04 Feb 2011 05:00:45 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=48010#comment-68108 Guys in your profession don't retire, they just drop dead. There's one difference >;) Me, I'd just turn into a consultant and get paid more for less work... Guys in your profession don’t retire, they just drop dead. There’s one difference >;)

Me, I’d just turn into a consultant and get paid more for less work…

]]> By: thelarmis http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2011/02/03/in-a-sentimental-mood-2/#comment-68107 thelarmis Fri, 04 Feb 2011 04:31:00 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=48010#comment-68107 i couldn't ever imagine retiring. never in a million lifetimes would i ever choose that route. and not just out of necessity. it is a major difference in occupations. if i "retired," i would seize to breathe... i couldn’t ever imagine retiring. never in a million lifetimes would i ever choose that route. and not just out of necessity. it is a major difference in occupations. if i “retired,” i would seize to breathe…

]]> By: Chyll Will http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2011/02/03/in-a-sentimental-mood-2/#comment-68106 Chyll Will Fri, 04 Feb 2011 04:23:48 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=48010#comment-68106 [44] I'll take a sip of that and pour some on the floor for ol' boy. Well done, Mr. Pettitte. And, if nothing else, I'm glad you go out on your own terms. [44] I’ll take a sip of that and pour some on the floor for ol’ boy. Well done, Mr. Pettitte. And, if nothing else, I’m glad you go out on your own terms.

]]> By: thelarmis http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2011/02/03/in-a-sentimental-mood-2/#comment-68105 thelarmis Fri, 04 Feb 2011 04:14:48 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=48010#comment-68105 [43] not only am i a lawyer, but i also play one on tv. that's just how i roll. but i did just have a root beer with dinner. i toasted one Andrew Eugene Pettitte. i can't believe i won't ever get to watch our Golden God pitch live again... : ( [43] not only am i a lawyer, but i also play one on tv. that’s just how i roll.

but i did just have a root beer with dinner. i toasted one Andrew Eugene Pettitte.

i can’t believe i won’t ever get to watch our Golden God pitch live again… : (

]]> By: Chyll Will http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2011/02/03/in-a-sentimental-mood-2/#comment-68104 Chyll Will Fri, 04 Feb 2011 04:10:41 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=48010#comment-68104 [39] I'm no lawyer, but I'd like to play one on TV. And I agree with you; from what we've been presented with Pettitte, there's not much reason to suspect that he means what he says, although his admission pokes holes in his veracity in general. But given the evidence (totally different from what he does outside of the public eye), I would suspect his demeanor is genuine; in fact, I believe it would be giving him too much credit to suggest that his public persona is calculated for effect. I suspect other players have done and continue to do so that, but there are not a lot of accounts of Andy being anything other than what he presents himself to be. An interesting game would be to rank the perceived sincerity of these five Yanks: A-Rod Jeter Andy Mo Jorge In order of which is most believable and sincere to you as a fan and perhaps why you feel that way. My bet is there are certain behaviors that sway us to believe one person over another that a calculating person either has great control over or stumbles with, while a sincere person can't help but be that way. I chose these five because their personas have been in my opinion the most dynamic and longest tenured. [39] I’m no lawyer, but I’d like to play one on TV. And I agree with you; from what we’ve been presented with Pettitte, there’s not much reason to suspect that he means what he says, although his admission pokes holes in his veracity in general. But given the evidence (totally different from what he does outside of the public eye), I would suspect his demeanor is genuine; in fact, I believe it would be giving him too much credit to suggest that his public persona is calculated for effect. I suspect other players have done and continue to do so that, but there are not a lot of accounts of Andy being anything other than what he presents himself to be.

An interesting game would be to rank the perceived sincerity of these five Yanks:
A-Rod
Jeter
Andy
Mo
Jorge

In order of which is most believable and sincere to you as a fan and perhaps why you feel that way. My bet is there are certain behaviors that sway us to believe one person over another that a calculating person either has great control over or stumbles with, while a sincere person can’t help but be that way. I chose these five because their personas have been in my opinion the most dynamic and longest tenured.

]]> By: thelarmis http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2011/02/03/in-a-sentimental-mood-2/#comment-68103 thelarmis Fri, 04 Feb 2011 04:00:57 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=48010#comment-68103 [33] oh good. i was wondering where you were... [31] yeah, i just had time to think about all this. now that i've digested it... this f**cking sucks ass. i already miss Andy a ton. hasn't made reflect on the past 15 years as much as it's making ponder the next 5, as we say goodbye to the rest of the "core." i mean, it's not <i>possible</i> to say goodbye to Jeter or Mo. just isn't... [33] oh good. i was wondering where you were…

[31] yeah, i just had time to think about all this. now that i’ve digested it…

this f**cking sucks ass. i already miss Andy a ton. hasn’t made reflect on the past 15 years as much as it’s making ponder the next 5, as we say goodbye to the rest of the “core.” i mean, it’s not possible to say goodbye to Jeter or Mo. just isn’t…

]]> By: Chyll Will http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2011/02/03/in-a-sentimental-mood-2/#comment-68102 Chyll Will Fri, 04 Feb 2011 03:50:34 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=48010#comment-68102 I think it will be time to confront my mortality when Jeter retires. He's a couple of years younger than I am, and I remember having a casual interest in his career from when he was picked in 1992; hearing the talk that he was a shaky defender, but thinking for no reason at all that he might be someone I'd wanna root for. Glad that worked out. As for Andy, I feel bad for ya, Weep (I guess you should modify your name for the upcoming season as tribute), but as I might have stated earlier, I'm glad he made a decision and didn't let this turn into a soap opera. The local media alone would have loved to have made this into a derisive moment in Yankee history akin to LeBron's Decision, but thankfully the opportunity has passed and we can honor him for his finer contributions as a Yankee and move on. [20] well um, since you brought it up... :) I think it will be time to confront my mortality when Jeter retires. He’s a couple of years younger than I am, and I remember having a casual interest in his career from when he was picked in 1992; hearing the talk that he was a shaky defender, but thinking for no reason at all that he might be someone I’d wanna root for. Glad that worked out.

As for Andy, I feel bad for ya, Weep (I guess you should modify your name for the upcoming season as tribute), but as I might have stated earlier, I’m glad he made a decision and didn’t let this turn into a soap opera. The local media alone would have loved to have made this into a derisive moment in Yankee history akin to LeBron’s Decision, but thankfully the opportunity has passed and we can honor him for his finer contributions as a Yankee and move on.

[20] well um, since you brought it up… :)

]]> By: byebyebalboni http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2011/02/03/in-a-sentimental-mood-2/#comment-68101 byebyebalboni Fri, 04 Feb 2011 03:36:00 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=48010#comment-68101 [39] That makes sense. Also, there are many of us who don't care at all about steroids or PED usage. I see no difference between them and Tommy John surgery. [39] That makes sense. Also, there are many of us who don’t care at all about steroids or PED usage. I see no difference between them and Tommy John surgery.

]]> By: RagingTartabull http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2011/02/03/in-a-sentimental-mood-2/#comment-68100 RagingTartabull Fri, 04 Feb 2011 03:32:51 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=48010#comment-68100 [37] I don't think plausibility is the issue, sure what he said was plausible. Rafael Palmeiro also thinking he was taking Vitamin B is plausible, that doesn't make it likely. I think what it comes down to is WHY as fans did/do we decide to give Andy the benefit of the doubt? Mostly because we "know" him for years and we want to believe him. And thats ok, I fall into that category myself. But looking from it objectively, there really is no reason to believe his story other than "I like Andy, therefore I will believe Andy" [37] I don’t think plausibility is the issue, sure what he said was plausible. Rafael Palmeiro also thinking he was taking Vitamin B is plausible, that doesn’t make it likely.

I think what it comes down to is WHY as fans did/do we decide to give Andy the benefit of the doubt? Mostly because we “know” him for years and we want to believe him. And thats ok, I fall into that category myself. But looking from it objectively, there really is no reason to believe his story other than “I like Andy, therefore I will believe Andy”

]]> By: williamnyy23 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2011/02/03/in-a-sentimental-mood-2/#comment-68099 williamnyy23 Fri, 04 Feb 2011 03:24:36 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=48010#comment-68099 [28] The "best" science wouldn't agree: http://tinyurl.com/ybrwuju [28] The “best” science wouldn’t agree: http://tinyurl.com/ybrwuju

]]> By: williamnyy23 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2011/02/03/in-a-sentimental-mood-2/#comment-68098 williamnyy23 Fri, 04 Feb 2011 03:19:56 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=48010#comment-68098 [25] I disagree completely. I found his story to be very plausible. If you think he lied so completely, then I guess I can understand your position. I just happen to think he dabbled in something about which he knew little, realized it wasn't a good idea and once it became exposed decided to own up to it. It wasn't a heroic deed, but compared to the reactions of some others, I can see why some viewed his admission as an expression of nobility. [25] I disagree completely. I found his story to be very plausible. If you think he lied so completely, then I guess I can understand your position. I just happen to think he dabbled in something about which he knew little, realized it wasn’t a good idea and once it became exposed decided to own up to it. It wasn’t a heroic deed, but compared to the reactions of some others, I can see why some viewed his admission as an expression of nobility.

]]> By: Alex Belth http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2011/02/03/in-a-sentimental-mood-2/#comment-68097 Alex Belth Fri, 04 Feb 2011 03:11:59 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=48010#comment-68097 35) and that is why we'll appreciate the final days for posada and jetes and mo! Go yanks 35) and that is why we’ll appreciate the final days for posada and jetes and mo! Go yanks

]]> By: weeping for brunnhilde http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2011/02/03/in-a-sentimental-mood-2/#comment-68096 weeping for brunnhilde Fri, 04 Feb 2011 02:41:31 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=48010#comment-68096 I wanted one more year. Just to say goodbye. I wanted one more year.

Just to say goodbye.

]]> By: weeping for brunnhilde http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2011/02/03/in-a-sentimental-mood-2/#comment-68095 weeping for brunnhilde Fri, 04 Feb 2011 02:38:54 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=48010#comment-68095 I feel fucking sick. I feel fucking sick.

]]> By: weeping for brunnhilde http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2011/02/03/in-a-sentimental-mood-2/#comment-68094 weeping for brunnhilde Fri, 04 Feb 2011 02:28:53 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=48010#comment-68094 I know I've been resigning myself to this for months now but I just can't deal. I'm going to cry. I know I’ve been resigning myself to this for months now but I just can’t deal.

I’m going to cry.

]]> By: byebyebalboni http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2011/02/03/in-a-sentimental-mood-2/#comment-68093 byebyebalboni Fri, 04 Feb 2011 02:07:18 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=48010#comment-68093 (31) Yes , I would agree. Although this is nothing compared to when Mariano retires. I imagine thousands of cyber tears will be shed that day. (31) Yes , I would agree. Although this is nothing compared to when Mariano retires. I imagine thousands of cyber tears will be shed that day.

]]> By: RagingTartabull http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2011/02/03/in-a-sentimental-mood-2/#comment-68092 RagingTartabull Fri, 04 Feb 2011 02:04:40 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=48010#comment-68092 after having a few hours to digest is anyone else in a REALLY reflective mood, not just about Andy but about basically the last 15 years of your life as a whole? after having a few hours to digest is anyone else in a REALLY reflective mood, not just about Andy but about basically the last 15 years of your life as a whole?

]]> By: Diane Firstman http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2011/02/03/in-a-sentimental-mood-2/#comment-68091 Diane Firstman Fri, 04 Feb 2011 01:27:26 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=48010#comment-68091 [17] Tim Wakefield [193] [17]

Tim Wakefield [193]

]]> By: RagingTartabull http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2011/02/03/in-a-sentimental-mood-2/#comment-68090 RagingTartabull Fri, 04 Feb 2011 01:17:28 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=48010#comment-68090 [24] well Pettitte's stated reason for using HGH, if one is to take him at his word, was to come back from an injury. So in that case the idea of "performance enhancement" is relative to what the expectations of using the HGH was. He didn't use it to "throw harder" per se, but to get back onto the field. Either way, was his excuse a croc? Eh, maybe. If it was said by, lets say, Curt Schilling as opposed to Andy, would I give it as much creedence? No, probably not. Its all a moot point anyway, seeing as how when I think of Andy the whole HGH saga is somewhere around 47th down on the list of things I think of, right behind a no-decision vs. Kansas City on a Tuesday in May in 1999. [24] well Pettitte’s stated reason for using HGH, if one is to take him at his word, was to come back from an injury. So in that case the idea of “performance enhancement” is relative to what the expectations of using the HGH was. He didn’t use it to “throw harder” per se, but to get back onto the field.

Either way, was his excuse a croc? Eh, maybe. If it was said by, lets say, Curt Schilling as opposed to Andy, would I give it as much creedence? No, probably not. Its all a moot point anyway, seeing as how when I think of Andy the whole HGH saga is somewhere around 47th down on the list of things I think of, right behind a no-decision vs. Kansas City on a Tuesday in May in 1999.

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