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		<title>By: SteveF</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2011/08/31/is-this-the-express/#comment-256103</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2011 23:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose one could make a claim about having to pitch half their games in Fenway, but I agree with your basic point.

The Red Sox pitching certainly looked to be much better in March, but injuries and a relatively ineffective Lackey on the Red Sox side, and a some considerable luck (Colon/Garcia) on the Yankee side have at the very least evened things out.

Sabathia, Colon, Nova, Garcia doesn&#039;t look much (if at all) worse than Lester, Beckett, Lackey, Bedard in a playoff series.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose one could make a claim about having to pitch half their games in Fenway, but I agree with your basic point.</p>
<p>The Red Sox pitching certainly looked to be much better in March, but injuries and a relatively ineffective Lackey on the Red Sox side, and a some considerable luck (Colon/Garcia) on the Yankee side have at the very least evened things out.</p>
<p>Sabathia, Colon, Nova, Garcia doesn&#8217;t look much (if at all) worse than Lester, Beckett, Lackey, Bedard in a playoff series.</p>
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		<title>By: RIYank</title>
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		<dc:creator>RIYank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2011 19:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crazy8Rick, why is it that the Red Sox&#039; pitchers give up more runs than the Yankees&#039; pitchers, if the Red Sox&#039; pitchers are more talented?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crazy8Rick, why is it that the Red Sox&#8217; pitchers give up more runs than the Yankees&#8217; pitchers, if the Red Sox&#8217; pitchers are more talented?</p>
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		<title>By: Crazy8Rick</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2011 16:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s face it guys.  The Red Sox just have a more talented pitching rotation than we do.  That&#039;s it, bottom line. Hughes and over paid AJ are the chinks in the Yankees armour. (and who&#039;s pitching tonight?? Yeah, right.  Good ole dependable AJ) With Arod out of the line up the fear factor is gone. I hate it, I hate it, I hate it, but I don&#039;t see us wining the division against the Red Sox this year!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s face it guys.  The Red Sox just have a more talented pitching rotation than we do.  That&#8217;s it, bottom line. Hughes and over paid AJ are the chinks in the Yankees armour. (and who&#8217;s pitching tonight?? Yeah, right.  Good ole dependable AJ) With Arod out of the line up the fear factor is gone. I hate it, I hate it, I hate it, but I don&#8217;t see us wining the division against the Red Sox this year!</p>
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		<title>By: The Hawk</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Hawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2011 16:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What if CC pitched well in two of the three games he stunk up the joint, and the Yankees predictably won those two? What if he pitched well in all three and the Yanks won? They&#039;d be 6-8 vs the Sox. Not good but not what we&#039;re looking at right now. 

I chalk up a a good chunk of this record to CC not being CC. I understand historically he&#039;s not great against the Sox, but it doesn&#039;t strike me as out of the question that he do better, if not as well as he does against everyone else. 

And let&#039;s not forget the Yankees batters basically beat Beckett last night. It&#039;s just that the Yankee pitching was worse. 

And yeah bad luck. The Yanks&#039; two worst pitchers go this series. (Albeit who in their right mind would wanna see Garcia out there with his slop bucket??)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if CC pitched well in two of the three games he stunk up the joint, and the Yankees predictably won those two? What if he pitched well in all three and the Yanks won? They&#8217;d be 6-8 vs the Sox. Not good but not what we&#8217;re looking at right now. </p>
<p>I chalk up a a good chunk of this record to CC not being CC. I understand historically he&#8217;s not great against the Sox, but it doesn&#8217;t strike me as out of the question that he do better, if not as well as he does against everyone else. </p>
<p>And let&#8217;s not forget the Yankees batters basically beat Beckett last night. It&#8217;s just that the Yankee pitching was worse. </p>
<p>And yeah bad luck. The Yanks&#8217; two worst pitchers go this series. (Albeit who in their right mind would wanna see Garcia out there with his slop bucket??)</p>
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		<title>By: RIYank</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2011/08/31/is-this-the-express/#comment-256099</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2011 14:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[28] Well put.
No, it&#039;s not a couple of bad breaks in any given game. It&#039;s kind of larger scale bad luck. You know, good pitchers have bad games, good hitters too, etc.

But I&#039;m not saying it&#039;s luck. It could be match-ups. But as Ms. Oct. says, what exactly are the match-up problems supposed to be? Why do CC and Ivan match up badly against Boston but really well against, ummm, everybody else?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[28] Well put.<br />
No, it&#8217;s not a couple of bad breaks in any given game. It&#8217;s kind of larger scale bad luck. You know, good pitchers have bad games, good hitters too, etc.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m not saying it&#8217;s luck. It could be match-ups. But as Ms. Oct. says, what exactly are the match-up problems supposed to be? Why do CC and Ivan match up badly against Boston but really well against, ummm, everybody else?</p>
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		<title>By: Dimelo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dimelo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2011 14:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just don&#039;t get it, the Yanks can&#039;t pitch to the Red Sox.  This is reminiscent of 2004.  Everyone scares the shit out of you in the lineup, and their pitching is way better than the Yanks pitching.  It&#039;s not even close.

I love CC and Mo, but does anyone feel confident when those two are on the mound against the Red Sox and it&#039;s a 1/2 run lead? I sure don&#039;t.  AND THIS IS MO I&#039;M TALKING ABOUT!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just don&#8217;t get it, the Yanks can&#8217;t pitch to the Red Sox.  This is reminiscent of 2004.  Everyone scares the shit out of you in the lineup, and their pitching is way better than the Yanks pitching.  It&#8217;s not even close.</p>
<p>I love CC and Mo, but does anyone feel confident when those two are on the mound against the Red Sox and it&#8217;s a 1/2 run lead? I sure don&#8217;t.  AND THIS IS MO I&#8217;M TALKING ABOUT!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Jon DeRosa</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2011 14:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[28] I agree luck comes into all games, but I haven&#039;t seen nearly enough bad breaks for the yanks in these 14 games to pin the 3-11 record on it. if anything, the breaks seem more even than in most years. i just see the red sox hitters having an easier time with the yankee staff than vice-versa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[28] I agree luck comes into all games, but I haven&#8217;t seen nearly enough bad breaks for the yanks in these 14 games to pin the 3-11 record on it. if anything, the breaks seem more even than in most years. i just see the red sox hitters having an easier time with the yankee staff than vice-versa.</p>
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		<title>By: Start Spreading the News</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2011/08/31/is-this-the-express/#comment-256096</link>
		<dc:creator>Start Spreading the News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2011 13:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[26] Bad luck doesn&#039;t just show up as losses in one run games. It is also two smash hops being snared by Scutaro and Pedroia, back to back. So instead of 2 on and no outs, it is two outs. It is also Varitek reaching for a pitch and somehow getting the ball past Gardner. It is also the umpire missing a strike call before Ortiz&#039; homer. 

We are mainly losing because of our pitching and some bad luck. Both lineups have great hitters and good at-bats. Beckett had good stuff yesterday and still gave up 5 runs on only 6 hits and no homers. Coming into the game, he had a 2.43 ERA. So he struggled against a good lineup like CC did. And he prevailed like CC. Hughes similarly labored but doesn&#039;t have the maturity or the out pitch needed to win (yet). 

Today the Yanks face Lester who hasn&#039;t given up 5 runs since May. Ugh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[26] Bad luck doesn&#8217;t just show up as losses in one run games. It is also two smash hops being snared by Scutaro and Pedroia, back to back. So instead of 2 on and no outs, it is two outs. It is also Varitek reaching for a pitch and somehow getting the ball past Gardner. It is also the umpire missing a strike call before Ortiz&#8217; homer. </p>
<p>We are mainly losing because of our pitching and some bad luck. Both lineups have great hitters and good at-bats. Beckett had good stuff yesterday and still gave up 5 runs on only 6 hits and no homers. Coming into the game, he had a 2.43 ERA. So he struggled against a good lineup like CC did. And he prevailed like CC. Hughes similarly labored but doesn&#8217;t have the maturity or the out pitch needed to win (yet). </p>
<p>Today the Yanks face Lester who hasn&#8217;t given up 5 runs since May. Ugh.</p>
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		<title>By: ms october</title>
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		<dc:creator>ms october</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2011 13:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[25] [26] i also think there might be a match-up issue at play but what is it?
i tried to figure it out last year when that weird triangle was in effect, with the yanks  able to beat the rays, the rays able to beat the sox, and the sox able to beat the yanks.
the only theory i have is the sox disciplined approach gets the yanks pitchers but it&#039;s just a thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[25] [26] i also think there might be a match-up issue at play but what is it?<br />
i tried to figure it out last year when that weird triangle was in effect, with the yanks  able to beat the rays, the rays able to beat the sox, and the sox able to beat the yanks.<br />
the only theory i have is the sox disciplined approach gets the yanks pitchers but it&#8217;s just a thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon DeRosa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon DeRosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2011 13:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[25] I think match-ups and small sample, but not bad luck. That implies to me that the Yanks lost some games they should have won. They only lost one heartbreaker. 

If bad luck means that the Yankees have just unluckily played worse than they are capable against their main rival over 14 games while the sox have played to the best of their ability over the exact same games, then fine. 

But as long as the sox get all the credit for kicking the yankees asses all year - it&#039;s not like this record is an undeserved fluke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[25] I think match-ups and small sample, but not bad luck. That implies to me that the Yanks lost some games they should have won. They only lost one heartbreaker. </p>
<p>If bad luck means that the Yankees have just unluckily played worse than they are capable against their main rival over 14 games while the sox have played to the best of their ability over the exact same games, then fine. </p>
<p>But as long as the sox get all the credit for kicking the yankees asses all year &#8211; it&#8217;s not like this record is an undeserved fluke.</p>
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		<title>By: RIYank</title>
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		<dc:creator>RIYank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2011 13:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[23] I dunno, really. It&#039;s not a tiny number of games, but it&#039;s not a big sample either. The answer can&#039;t be that Boston is just a lot better, because if that were true they&#039;d be beating &lt;i&gt;other&lt;/i&gt; teams more than we are, and that&#039;s not happening. It&#039;s possible that there&#039;s some kind of match-up issue. And it&#039;s possible that it&#039;s mainly bad luck. (But it&#039;s definitely not because they have more .300 hitters!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[23] I dunno, really. It&#8217;s not a tiny number of games, but it&#8217;s not a big sample either. The answer can&#8217;t be that Boston is just a lot better, because if that were true they&#8217;d be beating <i>other</i> teams more than we are, and that&#8217;s not happening. It&#8217;s possible that there&#8217;s some kind of match-up issue. And it&#8217;s possible that it&#8217;s mainly bad luck. (But it&#8217;s definitely not because they have more .300 hitters!)</p>
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		<title>By: RIYank</title>
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		<dc:creator>RIYank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2011 13:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[21] Hm, good point(s). I&#039;ll buy that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[21] Hm, good point(s). I&#8217;ll buy that.</p>
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		<title>By: weeping for brunnhilde</title>
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		<dc:creator>weeping for brunnhilde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2011 13:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[18] But seriously, for all that, then, how do you explain our inability to beat them?  Bad luck?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[18] But seriously, for all that, then, how do you explain our inability to beat them?  Bad luck?</p>
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		<title>By: weeping for brunnhilde</title>
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		<dc:creator>weeping for brunnhilde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2011 13:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[18] Sigh, if you say so.  Teix for President.  
:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[18] Sigh, if you say so.  Teix for President.   <img src='http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ms october</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2011 13:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think this game reflected the fears or some common themes, so that is why the mood is glummy.

[20] i think the opposite scenario is more likely.  apparently garcia takes forever to warm up, which is why he didn&#039;t start the year in the pen.  so i think they would be more likely to use him as a starter than a reliever in the post season.  also girardi has experience with hughes in the pen that was good, so i would think that would be a factor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think this game reflected the fears or some common themes, so that is why the mood is glummy.</p>
<p>[20] i think the opposite scenario is more likely.  apparently garcia takes forever to warm up, which is why he didn&#8217;t start the year in the pen.  so i think they would be more likely to use him as a starter than a reliever in the post season.  also girardi has experience with hughes in the pen that was good, so i would think that would be a factor.</p>
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		<title>By: RIYank</title>
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		<dc:creator>RIYank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2011 12:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[19] Yeah, I&#039;d agree -- that wasn&#039;t my suggestion, but rather my prediction. I think Girardi will prefer Hughes as a starter to Fred.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[19] Yeah, I&#8217;d agree &#8212; that wasn&#8217;t my suggestion, but rather my prediction. I think Girardi will prefer Hughes as a starter to Fred.</p>
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		<title>By: The Hawk</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2011 12:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[18] Uh, if HUGHES goes 4 2/3, FRED will come in? I&#039;m no great fan of Garcia but I trust him more than Hughes, who is looking a bit like a lost cause.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[18] Uh, if HUGHES goes 4 2/3, FRED will come in? I&#8217;m no great fan of Garcia but I trust him more than Hughes, who is looking a bit like a lost cause.</p>
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		<title>By: RIYank</title>
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		<dc:creator>RIYank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2011 12:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hm, I don&#039;t think we can afford to kowtow to tradition. The team needs the best line up that Girardi can come up with, for run production. (Surprisingly, this means you do &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; put your best hitter third. Two quite different analysis types agree.)

I will join Jon waaaaay out on that limb and agree that it would be better if Teix had the same number of homers but was batting 73 points higher.

However, I do not agree with Weeping that the Red Sox&#039; advantage in .300 hitters is a big problem. The Yankees have scored more runs than the Sox, and in fewer games. And I think the idea that the Boston starting rotation is better is also very dubious, since ours has given up fewer runs than theirs. I think the fact that Boston has two very good pitchers who have looked strong recently is significant, but not as significant as the general sentiment seems to have it.

Oh, and I&#039;m not so worried as Jon about having to dip into the bullpen early in a game. Remember, we&#039;ll have two of our current starters in the pen for long relief. If Hughes goes only 4 2/3, say, Fred could give you 3, no problem.

So, yeah, I hate losing these games, but the mood is glummer than the facts justify.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hm, I don&#8217;t think we can afford to kowtow to tradition. The team needs the best line up that Girardi can come up with, for run production. (Surprisingly, this means you do <i>not</i> put your best hitter third. Two quite different analysis types agree.)</p>
<p>I will join Jon waaaaay out on that limb and agree that it would be better if Teix had the same number of homers but was batting 73 points higher.</p>
<p>However, I do not agree with Weeping that the Red Sox&#8217; advantage in .300 hitters is a big problem. The Yankees have scored more runs than the Sox, and in fewer games. And I think the idea that the Boston starting rotation is better is also very dubious, since ours has given up fewer runs than theirs. I think the fact that Boston has two very good pitchers who have looked strong recently is significant, but not as significant as the general sentiment seems to have it.</p>
<p>Oh, and I&#8217;m not so worried as Jon about having to dip into the bullpen early in a game. Remember, we&#8217;ll have two of our current starters in the pen for long relief. If Hughes goes only 4 2/3, say, Fred could give you 3, no problem.</p>
<p>So, yeah, I hate losing these games, but the mood is glummer than the facts justify.</p>
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		<title>By: The Hawk</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2011 12:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally agree about Tex. He&#039;s had a pretty disappointing year. I know the numbers look good, but he just doesn&#039;t seem dangerous. Maybe I&#039;m just watching the wrong games.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally agree about Tex. He&#8217;s had a pretty disappointing year. I know the numbers look good, but he just doesn&#8217;t seem dangerous. Maybe I&#8217;m just watching the wrong games.</p>
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		<title>By: Chyll Will</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chyll Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2011 10:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[14] Guessing... Girardi wants to make sure the elder batsmen get their nap time before the playoffs so they can be fresh. Not that it worked that well last year, but insanity is partially the absence of reason. I also find that possible, yet likely explanation to be highly arrogant and presumptuous , but I&#039;m only going by sense memorization...</description>
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