Comments on: Ch-Ch-Ch-Ch-Changes http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2011/10/25/ch-ch-ch-ch-changes-2/ Development site for Bronx Banter Blog's upcoming look and feel Wed, 22 May 2013 16:46:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: Greg G http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2011/10/25/ch-ch-ch-ch-changes-2/#comment-267745 Greg G Wed, 26 Oct 2011 19:43:42 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=69436#comment-267745 Cherington just wanted the fans to like him, so he opens with John Lackey will not be pitching for the Red Sox in 2012. (9) "They'll never trade him. Unless they pay his salary." You might be right RI Yank, since Reagins is no longer the GM of the Angels. He must have gotten a big fat envelope with cash from the Blue Jays for taking Vernon Wells awful contract. Cherington just wanted the fans to like him, so he opens with John Lackey will not be pitching for the Red Sox in 2012.

(9) “They’ll never trade him. Unless they pay his salary.”

You might be right RI Yank, since Reagins is no longer the GM of the Angels. He must have gotten a big fat envelope with cash from the Blue Jays for taking Vernon Wells awful contract.

]]> By: thelarmis http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2011/10/25/ch-ch-ch-ch-changes-2/#comment-267744 thelarmis Wed, 26 Oct 2011 02:12:04 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=69436#comment-267744 ah, looks like the shit sox figured they'd get their way (per usual) and get john farrell back, this time as manager. blow jays said, 'no way'. would be fun(ny) if they hired wally backman, or something... ah, looks like the shit sox figured they’d get their way (per usual) and get john farrell back, this time as manager. blow jays said, ‘no way’.

would be fun(ny) if they hired wally backman, or something…

]]> By: thelarmis http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2011/10/25/ch-ch-ch-ch-changes-2/#comment-267743 thelarmis Wed, 26 Oct 2011 02:09:19 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=69436#comment-267743 i read the article over at espn on (s)lackey. it's been shit sox central over there this offseason, per usual... hey ri - there was a good beat of the day today! you might wanna check out that post the rest of the week... : ) np - bach violin concertos (np = now playing) i read the article over at espn on (s)lackey. it’s been shit sox central over there this offseason, per usual…

hey ri – there was a good beat of the day today! you might wanna check out that post the rest of the week… : )

np – bach violin concertos (np = now playing)

]]> By: RIYank http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2011/10/25/ch-ch-ch-ch-changes-2/#comment-267742 RIYank Wed, 26 Oct 2011 01:54:57 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=69436#comment-267742 No, everyone just thought he sucked. Some fans are suspicious. But I think it's pretty unlikely that a pitcher would decide to undergo TJ surgery just as an excuse! No, everyone just thought he sucked.
Some fans are suspicious. But I think it’s pretty unlikely that a pitcher would decide to undergo TJ surgery just as an excuse!

]]> By: thelarmis http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2011/10/25/ch-ch-ch-ch-changes-2/#comment-267741 thelarmis Wed, 26 Oct 2011 01:46:28 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=69436#comment-267741 was there evah a word that he might have been pitching hurt? i don't seem to recall hearing anything. and it's not really an excuse anyway, 'coz he sucked the year before, too. was there evah a word that he might have been pitching hurt? i don’t seem to recall hearing anything. and it’s not really an excuse anyway, ‘coz he sucked the year before, too.

]]> By: RIYank http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2011/10/25/ch-ch-ch-ch-changes-2/#comment-267740 RIYank Wed, 26 Oct 2011 01:45:48 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=69436#comment-267740 [8] They'll never trade him. Unless they pay his salary. [8] They’ll never trade him. Unless they pay his salary.

]]> By: thelarmis http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2011/10/25/ch-ch-ch-ch-changes-2/#comment-267739 thelarmis Wed, 26 Oct 2011 01:44:43 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=69436#comment-267739 it's also good, 'coz they have to pay him a lot of money NOT to pitch next year AND basically have to pitch him some in 2013, to prove he's healthy, so they can try to trade him. it’s also good, ‘coz they have to pay him a lot of money NOT to pitch next year AND basically have to pitch him some in 2013, to prove he’s healthy, so they can try to trade him.

]]> By: RIYank http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2011/10/25/ch-ch-ch-ch-changes-2/#comment-267738 RIYank Wed, 26 Oct 2011 01:29:20 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=69436#comment-267738 Oh, I see what you mean. But the problem is that they will continue to take the lux tax hit in 2015 this way. Without this mishap, they'd be all done with his salary then. So I'm not sure that's an advantage. Also, the cap for next year is going to be something like $185 Mil. I think it's fairly unlikely that Boston will flirt with that number. Huh, if the Yankees weren't carrying A-Rod's salary, even <i>they</i> would be under! Oh, I see what you mean.
But the problem is that they will continue to take the lux tax hit in 2015 this way. Without this mishap, they’d be all done with his salary then. So I’m not sure that’s an advantage.
Also, the cap for next year is going to be something like $185 Mil. I think it’s fairly unlikely that Boston will flirt with that number. Huh, if the Yankees weren’t carrying A-Rod’s salary, even they would be under!

]]> By: Jon DeRosa http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2011/10/25/ch-ch-ch-ch-changes-2/#comment-267737 Jon DeRosa Wed, 26 Oct 2011 01:02:49 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=69436#comment-267737 [4] they own rights to him now for 2015 at lg min. so his annual avg goes down to 13. that gives them more flexibility under the luxury tax threshold, which the sox have always made an effort to abide by, meaning it's easier to replace him now. [4] they own rights to him now for 2015 at lg min. so his annual avg goes down to 13. that gives them more flexibility under the luxury tax threshold, which the sox have always made an effort to abide by, meaning it’s easier to replace him now.

]]> By: Chyll Will http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2011/10/25/ch-ch-ch-ch-changes-2/#comment-267736 Chyll Will Tue, 25 Oct 2011 23:24:26 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=69436#comment-267736 [3] "I don't like his face"... with Tommy John surgery, the possibilities are endless. [3] “I don’t like his face”… with Tommy John surgery, the possibilities are endless.

]]> By: RIYank http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2011/10/25/ch-ch-ch-ch-changes-2/#comment-267735 RIYank Tue, 25 Oct 2011 22:53:30 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=69436#comment-267735 Jon, it will bring the annual average salary down, but only because they're going to be paying him for a season in which he doesn't pitch at all! That's not a break. (And anyway I bet you they won't exercise the option -- unless they can trade him.) There is no salary cap in baseball, so not sure what you meant by that. Jon, it will bring the annual average salary down, but only because they’re going to be paying him for a season in which he doesn’t pitch at all! That’s not a break. (And anyway I bet you they won’t exercise the option — unless they can trade him.)
There is no salary cap in baseball, so not sure what you meant by that.

]]> By: Eric McCauley http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2011/10/25/ch-ch-ch-ch-changes-2/#comment-267734 Eric McCauley Tue, 25 Oct 2011 21:24:13 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=69436#comment-267734 My wife's grandmother, a Sox fan who is not inclined to say anything disparaging about anyone, said "I don't like his face" at one point during a game this past summer when Lackey was choking hard. My wife’s grandmother, a Sox fan who is not inclined to say anything disparaging about anyone, said “I don’t like his face” at one point during a game this past summer when Lackey was choking hard.

]]> By: Jon DeRosa http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2011/10/25/ch-ch-ch-ch-changes-2/#comment-267733 Jon DeRosa Tue, 25 Oct 2011 21:00:30 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=69436#comment-267733 oh, i forgot boston planned for this. they can employ lackey at league minimum in 2015 if he needs TJ surgery. brings the annual avg of the contract down, gives them more flex under the cap too. what a break indeed. oh, i forgot boston planned for this. they can employ lackey at league minimum in 2015 if he needs TJ surgery. brings the annual avg of the contract down, gives them more flex under the cap too.

what a break indeed.

]]> By: Jon DeRosa http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2011/10/25/ch-ch-ch-ch-changes-2/#comment-267732 Jon DeRosa Tue, 25 Oct 2011 20:47:50 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=69436#comment-267732 you know things are bleak when i hear about a season ending injury and immediately think, wow, what a break. in a perfect world, lackey (or burnett) would not be allowed to ruin a season pitching poorly. but with those contracts, the only realistic way to get thrown out of the rotation is an injury. so the question is, would you sign up for TJ surgery for burnett right now? i probably say yes, but that's just a gut reaction to this news. you know things are bleak when i hear about a season ending injury and immediately think, wow, what a break.

in a perfect world, lackey (or burnett) would not be allowed to ruin a season pitching poorly. but with those contracts, the only realistic way to get thrown out of the rotation is an injury.

so the question is, would you sign up for TJ surgery for burnett right now? i probably say yes, but that’s just a gut reaction to this news.

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