Comments on: The New New King of Swing http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2012/03/15/the-new-new-king-of-swing/ Development site for Bronx Banter Blog's upcoming look and feel Thu, 23 May 2013 02:16:59 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: The Hawk http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2012/03/15/the-new-new-king-of-swing/#comment-272341 The Hawk Fri, 16 Mar 2012 01:54:43 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=81400#comment-272341 He doesn't seem petulant nor entitled to me. He does seem like a cocky bigmouth but that's different. He doesn’t seem petulant nor entitled to me. He does seem like a cocky bigmouth but that’s different.

]]> By: Mr OK Jazz Tokyo http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2012/03/15/the-new-new-king-of-swing/#comment-272340 Mr OK Jazz Tokyo Fri, 16 Mar 2012 01:23:43 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=81400#comment-272340 Wow..some serious old-fogey commentary in this thread..I want the kid to mash and stay cocky. Bland atletes can be boring, and lord knows baseball needs more characters. Remember: it ain't bragging if it's true! Wow..some serious old-fogey commentary in this thread..I want the kid to mash and stay cocky. Bland atletes can be boring, and lord knows baseball needs more characters. Remember: it ain’t bragging if it’s true!

]]> By: Dimelo http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2012/03/15/the-new-new-king-of-swing/#comment-272335 Dimelo Thu, 15 Mar 2012 21:03:29 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=81400#comment-272335 [8] I didn't know that one factoid, still doesn't change my opinion of Rose. It's sad that he had to do that, the fact that the media isn't constantly reminding us of this means he is genuinely a good guy trying to do good things. Thanks for bringing it up, had to be said. [8] I didn’t know that one factoid, still doesn’t change my opinion of Rose. It’s sad that he had to do that, the fact that the media isn’t constantly reminding us of this means he is genuinely a good guy trying to do good things. Thanks for bringing it up, had to be said.

]]> By: kenboyer made me cry http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2012/03/15/the-new-new-king-of-swing/#comment-272334 kenboyer made me cry Thu, 15 Mar 2012 20:42:19 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=81400#comment-272334 [10] I like characters who do their own thing too. And Bill Lee was something, and his work in Cuba is very cool. But, his disrespect for Zimmer was disheartening, and he should have treated him better [10] I like characters who do their own thing too. And Bill Lee was something, and his work in Cuba is very cool. But, his disrespect for Zimmer was disheartening, and he should have treated him better

]]> By: RagingTartabull http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2012/03/15/the-new-new-king-of-swing/#comment-272333 RagingTartabull Thu, 15 Mar 2012 20:02:35 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=81400#comment-272333 I wanna make it clear I love players who are "characters," from Dennis Rodman to Ocho Cinco to Bill Lee. Not a damn thing wrong with that. What I can't stand is petulance and entitlement. I wanna make it clear I love players who are “characters,” from Dennis Rodman to Ocho Cinco to Bill Lee. Not a damn thing wrong with that.

What I can’t stand is petulance and entitlement.

]]> By: kenboyer made me cry http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2012/03/15/the-new-new-king-of-swing/#comment-272332 kenboyer made me cry Thu, 15 Mar 2012 19:48:18 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=81400#comment-272332 Harper is not a throwback, Ty Cobb would have never blown a kiss to the pitcher, Pete Rose would not have said he was a superstar; as Raging said his attitude must have been shaped by the 24 hour sports news cycle and the televised on field/court celebrations for the most mundane successes. Make a tackle, do a dance. When Kirk Gibson hit that hobbling home run in game one of the '88 WS, his fist pumps were about as demonstrative as allowed at the time in baseball. Harper's attitude is not the Yankee, or Dodger, or Braves, or Red Sox, or Cubs, or Cardinals (etc) way. I guess there is not enough history for a Nationals way. We'll see how well he does, and how long he lasts Harper is not a throwback, Ty Cobb would have never blown a kiss to the pitcher, Pete Rose would not have said he was a superstar; as Raging said his attitude must have been shaped by the 24 hour sports news cycle and the televised on field/court celebrations for the most mundane successes. Make a tackle, do a dance.

When Kirk Gibson hit that hobbling home run in game one of the ’88 WS, his fist pumps were about as demonstrative as allowed at the time in baseball.

Harper’s attitude is not the Yankee, or Dodger, or Braves, or Red Sox, or Cubs, or Cardinals (etc) way. I guess there is not enough history for a Nationals way. We’ll see how well he does, and how long he lasts

]]> By: RagingTartabull http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2012/03/15/the-new-new-king-of-swing/#comment-272328 RagingTartabull Thu, 15 Mar 2012 18:42:38 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=81400#comment-272328 [7] Rose also paid someone to take his SAT's for him, so... but that's a whole other discussion about the absurdity of the NBA rookie age limit. [7] Rose also paid someone to take his SAT’s for him, so…

but that’s a whole other discussion about the absurdity of the NBA rookie age limit.

]]> By: Dimelo http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2012/03/15/the-new-new-king-of-swing/#comment-272325 Dimelo Thu, 15 Mar 2012 17:40:49 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=81400#comment-272325 [2] All this article has done is make me a huge anti-Harper fan. I hope he fails, and continues to fail. I don't know, I love humble athletes like Derrick Rose, Grandy-Man, Jeter, Eli. This week when I was watching Rose play against the Knicks, all I keep saying to myself is how much respect I have for him, his humility, the fact that he has his head on straight. It doesn't bug me at all to see the Knicks lose to a superstar like him. I was glad to hear Fraizer heaping a ton of praise on him. What mother wouldn't be proud? Even when the Knicks lost to the Spurs in '99, I had a serious soft spot for Duncan, and still do. I like athletes that aren't trying to bring extra attention to themselves, their game does it all for them. People (mostly from opposing teams) get angry at all the camera attention national telecasts put on Jeter, but he's not doing anything special where he's asking for it, he'll open his mouth to tell Robbie that he has to cover second if the runner from first takes off, FOX, Buck, and McCarver start to jizz in their pants to point out how great he is. Did Jeter do anything special? No. Did he ask for the attention? No. Did he reinvent the sport? No. He was just playing his game. Too bad Harper, the fucking neophyte, has yet to figure out that he should let his game do the talking. Again, I have no love for the guy. Fuck him! [2] All this article has done is make me a huge anti-Harper fan. I hope he fails, and continues to fail.

I don’t know, I love humble athletes like Derrick Rose, Grandy-Man, Jeter, Eli. This week when I was watching Rose play against the Knicks, all I keep saying to myself is how much respect I have for him, his humility, the fact that he has his head on straight. It doesn’t bug me at all to see the Knicks lose to a superstar like him. I was glad to hear Fraizer heaping a ton of praise on him. What mother wouldn’t be proud?

Even when the Knicks lost to the Spurs in ’99, I had a serious soft spot for Duncan, and still do. I like athletes that aren’t trying to bring extra attention to themselves, their game does it all for them.

People (mostly from opposing teams) get angry at all the camera attention national telecasts put on Jeter, but he’s not doing anything special where he’s asking for it, he’ll open his mouth to tell Robbie that he has to cover second if the runner from first takes off, FOX, Buck, and McCarver start to jizz in their pants to point out how great he is. Did Jeter do anything special? No. Did he ask for the attention? No. Did he reinvent the sport? No. He was just playing his game.

Too bad Harper, the fucking neophyte, has yet to figure out that he should let his game do the talking. Again, I have no love for the guy. Fuck him!

]]> By: RagingTartabull http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2012/03/15/the-new-new-king-of-swing/#comment-272324 RagingTartabull Thu, 15 Mar 2012 16:47:20 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=81400#comment-272324 I just think of it in these terms: There is a decent chance he ends up a perennial All-Star and MVP candidate, I'd say it's at least 50/50. But it is a MORTAL LOCK he ends up an emotional trainwreck by the time he's 30. I just think of it in these terms:

There is a decent chance he ends up a perennial All-Star and MVP candidate, I’d say it’s at least 50/50. But it is a MORTAL LOCK he ends up an emotional trainwreck by the time he’s 30.

]]> By: Ben http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2012/03/15/the-new-new-king-of-swing/#comment-272323 Ben Thu, 15 Mar 2012 16:44:40 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=81400#comment-272323 [3.] ... days old. [3.] … days old.

]]> By: RagingTartabull http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2012/03/15/the-new-new-king-of-swing/#comment-272322 RagingTartabull Thu, 15 Mar 2012 16:43:33 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=81400#comment-272322 [3] this is a fair point. [3] this is a fair point.

]]> By: bags http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2012/03/15/the-new-new-king-of-swing/#comment-272321 bags Thu, 15 Mar 2012 16:09:27 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=81400#comment-272321 i actually am pretty sure that LeBron could shave when he was five. i actually am pretty sure that LeBron could shave when he was five.

]]> By: Alex Belth http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2012/03/15/the-new-new-king-of-swing/#comment-272320 Alex Belth Thu, 15 Mar 2012 15:41:33 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=81400#comment-272320 Man, Jeffries was a Candy Ass. Man, Jeffries was a Candy Ass.

]]> By: RagingTartabull http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2012/03/15/the-new-new-king-of-swing/#comment-272319 RagingTartabull Thu, 15 Mar 2012 14:31:45 +0000 http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/?p=81400#comment-272319 Jesus, where do I begin with this kid? I think it's great that he's his own person and isn't just some "welp ya gotta take 'em one game at a time!" clone. That's fine, guys like this make sports fun. But I also wonder how much of this is a product of growing up in the age of ESPN, social media, insta-celebrity, and the like. LeBron was "The Chosen One" before he could shave, Sidney Crosby was "The Next One" when he was still in Juniors, at some point we need to pull back from this a little bit. At the end of the day we're talking about an 19 year old kid. A 19 year old kid, no matter what he can do to a baseball, is very rarely going to be a deep thinker on any sort of subject. And one who has been molded from the time he could walk to be a "Star" (paging Gregg Jeffries and Todd Marinovich) is likely to be even less fully formed at that age than your average college sophomore. Jesus, where do I begin with this kid?

I think it’s great that he’s his own person and isn’t just some “welp ya gotta take ‘em one game at a time!” clone. That’s fine, guys like this make sports fun. But I also wonder how much of this is a product of growing up in the age of ESPN, social media, insta-celebrity, and the like. LeBron was “The Chosen One” before he could shave, Sidney Crosby was “The Next One” when he was still in Juniors, at some point we need to pull back from this a little bit.

At the end of the day we’re talking about an 19 year old kid. A 19 year old kid, no matter what he can do to a baseball, is very rarely going to be a deep thinker on any sort of subject. And one who has been molded from the time he could walk to be a “Star” (paging Gregg Jeffries and Todd Marinovich) is likely to be even less fully formed at that age than your average college sophomore.

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