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	<title>Comments on: Color By Numbers: Back It Up</title>
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		<title>By: Fuller R</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2012/04/19/color-by-numbers-back-it-up/#comment-274975</link>
		<dc:creator>Fuller R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 15:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[5] I would love to know what brought that on...

It must be BS, because he&#039;s had a nice career as a coach &amp; minor league manager, which wouldn&#039;t be possible nowadays (I would hope) if he had a known racial bias.

Hassey was often a clutch hitter for the Yanks, and when I think of him, it&#039;s &quot;decent hitter/so-so catcher.&quot;  But ironically his claim to fame is catching two perfect games - Len Barker &amp; Dennis Martinez.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[5] I would love to know what brought that on&#8230;</p>
<p>It must be BS, because he&#8217;s had a nice career as a coach &amp; minor league manager, which wouldn&#8217;t be possible nowadays (I would hope) if he had a known racial bias.</p>
<p>Hassey was often a clutch hitter for the Yanks, and when I think of him, it&#8217;s &#8220;decent hitter/so-so catcher.&#8221;  But ironically his claim to fame is catching two perfect games &#8211; Len Barker &amp; Dennis Martinez.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Markusen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce Markusen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 22:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love the mention of Ron Hassey, who was an interesting character. The late Art Rust Jr. accused of him being a racist--said it flat out on his radio show--but I never heard Hassey respond to the accusation. Last I remember, Hassey was coaching with the Mariners, but I don&#039;t know where he is now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love the mention of Ron Hassey, who was an interesting character. The late Art Rust Jr. accused of him being a racist&#8211;said it flat out on his radio show&#8211;but I never heard Hassey respond to the accusation. Last I remember, Hassey was coaching with the Mariners, but I don&#8217;t know where he is now.</p>
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		<title>By: William Juliano</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Juliano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 22:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[3] I don&#039;t think defense trumps offense at any position, but it might be closest at catcher. I&#039;ll take the 30 homers from behind the plate any day over a defensive specialist who can frame the ball and throw out baserunners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[3] I don&#8217;t think defense trumps offense at any position, but it might be closest at catcher. I&#8217;ll take the 30 homers from behind the plate any day over a defensive specialist who can frame the ball and throw out baserunners.</p>
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		<title>By: OldYanksFan</title>
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		<dc:creator>OldYanksFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 20:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent article. Had Jorge not declined so far and fast (over his last 4 yr contract), as well as injuries and concussions, he could easily have been the Yanks all-time Games leader.

No doubt our Catchers have been great offensively. However, after reading a few article on pitch framing, and looking at overall D, CS% and game calling, I&#039;m beginning to wonder how you define the &#039;best&#039; Catchers.

I remember one article which rated Pudge a far amount more productive than Piazza, even though Piazza&#039;s O numbers were eons ahead of Pudge.

If you believe some of these new-fanged stats for Catchers, Martin ranks close to Posada.

Because these esoteric stats, as well as Defense in general, are hard to put a handle on, Offensive numbers always look more impressive. But old timers always take the &#039;defensive specialist&#039; behind the plate, and, as an example, we have all seen how Gardner&#039;s defense makes him very valuable, even with positional offensive numbers that are below average.

Some say it&#039;s Pitching and Defense that Wins, more then offense. While Matsui and Sheffield were monsters, I much prefer Grandy/Gardy in the OF.

I wonder as Defense and &#039;Catching Stats&#039; become more prevelant and accurate, how our perceptions will change about the value of certain ballplayers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent article. Had Jorge not declined so far and fast (over his last 4 yr contract), as well as injuries and concussions, he could easily have been the Yanks all-time Games leader.</p>
<p>No doubt our Catchers have been great offensively. However, after reading a few article on pitch framing, and looking at overall D, CS% and game calling, I&#8217;m beginning to wonder how you define the &#8216;best&#8217; Catchers.</p>
<p>I remember one article which rated Pudge a far amount more productive than Piazza, even though Piazza&#8217;s O numbers were eons ahead of Pudge.</p>
<p>If you believe some of these new-fanged stats for Catchers, Martin ranks close to Posada.</p>
<p>Because these esoteric stats, as well as Defense in general, are hard to put a handle on, Offensive numbers always look more impressive. But old timers always take the &#8216;defensive specialist&#8217; behind the plate, and, as an example, we have all seen how Gardner&#8217;s defense makes him very valuable, even with positional offensive numbers that are below average.</p>
<p>Some say it&#8217;s Pitching and Defense that Wins, more then offense. While Matsui and Sheffield were monsters, I much prefer Grandy/Gardy in the OF.</p>
<p>I wonder as Defense and &#8216;Catching Stats&#8217; become more prevelant and accurate, how our perceptions will change about the value of certain ballplayers.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris in Sydney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris in Sydney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 19:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I remember Joel Skinner well, and the groans he provoked. Epitome of The Great Drought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I remember Joel Skinner well, and the groans he provoked. Epitome of The Great Drought.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Belth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Belth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 18:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron Fatassy. I remember his bat well. And I had no idea Butch caught so many games. 

Good gosh, I&#039;d completely forgotten Brad Gulden. 

Man, the Yanks have had some amazing starting catchers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron Fatassy. I remember his bat well. And I had no idea Butch caught so many games. </p>
<p>Good gosh, I&#8217;d completely forgotten Brad Gulden. </p>
<p>Man, the Yanks have had some amazing starting catchers.</p>
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