Comments on: Splat

By: monkeypants

monkeypants — Thu, 03 May 2012 17:13:54 +0000

[9] I didn’t forget about him, I just consider him largely irrelevant to the trade evaluation. He’s 19 y.o. in A ball. At the earliest he will make the team in what, three years? And make an impact in maybe five years. And that assumes that the organization doesn’t screw him up to with their perverse “development” of young arms. But even if he *does* work out in half a decade, I would still have a hard time waiting that long to evaluate a trade involving MLB-ready prospects. So many things could happen or could have happened over the same span of five years that even if h works out…or even if he is a total bust…it will be so far removed from the trade that, in my mind, it can’t really bear much meaningfully on the trade.

Maybe if Campos emerges in a a year or two to anchor the staff, I’ll change my tune. But that said, if his arm blows up tomorrow it won’t change my opinion of the trade one way or another.

By: Chris in Sydney

Chris in Sydney — Thu, 03 May 2012 16:40:25 +0000

[6] If and when Campos is a bust, I will agree with you on the trade. But the guy has an upside every bit as high as Pineda. Did you forget about him?

By: rbj

rbj — Thu, 03 May 2012 13:54:35 +0000

Nova had a 15 game winning streak, he was due for a bad game. And as bad games go, this wasn’t so bad, until the end when it was clear he was tired. So I’m still going to think of him as #3 starter. What’s worrisome is the offense and the roster construction.

By: Jon DeRosa

Jon DeRosa — Thu, 03 May 2012 13:49:57 +0000

[5] Why did the pitcher need to be young? The Yankees are not that good with young pitchers, it seems to me.

I think those of us against the trade preferred Montero and a free agent risk at pitcher (Darvish, Wilson, Jackson) over Pineda and Ibanez/Stewart. I thought that the production on the Montero side of the equation would be superior straight up, but even if your projection differed, the risk on the Montero side of the equation is far less than the Pineda side.

And also plan B if the free agent sucks includes Jesus Montero as an asset. Plan B when Pineda got injured appears to be have a shitty rotation and a shitty DH and a shitty BUC.

By: monkeypants

monkeypants — Thu, 03 May 2012 12:55:24 +0000

[5] But, I think most us us understand, that with our current roster, with ARod looming as our DH for 3 years, that a young stud pitcher was more needed than a young stud BUC.

Nothing in this sentence is necessarily accurate, let alone obviously so.

Now, if you had written something like: “with the current roster of 13 pitchers, one starting OF on the DL) and another unable to play, the team fascinated by getting as many starts as possible (including in the OF) for Raul Ibanez and Eduardo Nunez, the quizzacle demotion of one failry stinky BUC in favor of an obviously stinkier BUC, all while the starting C reverts to the shell that he has been for the last few seasons save a hot start last year, there was no room whatsoever to find 400 ABs for young stud slugger on an otherwise aging team. So, he absolutely HAD to be traded…” Well, then maybe I could see your point.

I thought it was a bad trade then, and said so, and I’ll be vindicated.

In any case, Montero or no, the team’s current roster strategy—which amounts, it seems, to playing with absolutely no bench while giving maximum exposure to Eduardo Nunez—is simply crazy.

Who knows, maybe now that Gardy appears to have had a set back and Swish still can’t play, the team might consider calling up an OF.

By: OldYanksFan

OldYanksFan — Thu, 03 May 2012 12:20:11 +0000

It’s kinda a shame as I think we really want to root for Jesus, but… Jesus Doing Well = Cashman Sucks. Which of course is not true.

We ALL wanted to see Jesus rake for us.
We ALL were disappointed when he was traded.
But, I think most us us understand, that with our current roster, with ARod looming as our DH for 3 years, that a young stud pitcher was more needed than a young stud BUC.

So I secretly root for Jesus (who will hit), and just try to skip over the
WE SHOULD HAVE KEPT JESUS CASHMAN SUCKS posts,
and the miriad of comments in this vane,
that are destined to come every time Jesus has a good day.

By: monkeypants

monkeypants — Thu, 03 May 2012 07:13:31 +0000

…and meanwhile:

Montero, Jesus .294/.303/.459/.762/116

By: thelarmis

thelarmis — Thu, 03 May 2012 05:34:57 +0000

[1] i have all the Whiplash releases. great old metal band from Joisey! ; )

By: thelarmis

thelarmis — Thu, 03 May 2012 05:34:13 +0000

well, nova’s buddy didn’t fare so well tonight either…

AJ gave up 12 runs on 12 hits in 2.2 innings. his game score was -13.

on the opposite end of the spectrum, congrats to jered weaver on his no-no!

oh, and btw, re: swedish – it’s “hej, hej”! j=y : )

By: monkeypants

monkeypants — Thu, 03 May 2012 05:14:25 +0000

The Yankees idiotic roster construction has sucked much of the fun out of this season for me, at least so far. So now Eric Chavez has…whiplash? What’s the plan? Call up another pitcher and play Stewart at 3B?