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		<title>The Annals of Justice</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jon DeRosa</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[If the piss ain&#8217;t shipped, you must acquit. If you can&#8217;t see the pee, he...]]></description>
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<p>If the piss ain&#8217;t shipped, you must acquit.</p>
<p>If you can&#8217;t see the pee, he must walk free.</p>
<p>If FedEx is closed, your case is hosed.</p>
<p>If the pee is refrigerated, he must be exonerated.</p>
<p>What you got&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>Lost In Translation?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 13:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>William Juliano</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Because it came in the wake of the Yankees’ blockbuster trade for Michael Pineda, the...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="attachment_79970" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 544px"><a href="http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/kuroda_hiroki.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-79970" src="http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/kuroda_hiroki.jpg" alt="" width="534" height="360" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Will Hiroki Kuroda&#39;s success translate in the Bronx? (Photo: AP)</p></div>
<p>Because it came in the wake of the Yankees’ blockbuster trade for Michael Pineda, the acquisition of Hiroki Kuroda has been somewhat overlooked. Even now, the Japanese right hander seems to be getting short shrift on his own team. Recently, Yankees’ pitching coach <a href="http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/yankees/post/_/id/26937/25q25d-how-good-will-pineda-be">Larry Rothschild identified</a> Pineda and Ivan Nova as candidates for the number two slot in the rotation. However, if A.J. Burnett is traded and Freddy Garcia is sent to the bullpen, Kuroda will rank behind only CC Sabathia in terms of experience and success as a starter (Kuroda’s 114 games started are almost as many as Pineda, Nova, and Phil Hughes combined). What’s more, over the last two seasons, Kuroda has ranked 36th and 44th in bWAR and fWAR, respectively, which suggests the righty is a solid number two. So, why does it seem as if not too many people look upon him as being one?</p>
<p><strong>Hiroki Kuroda’s Home/Road Splits<br />
<a href="http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/KurodaHomeRoadSplits.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-79916" src="http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/KurodaHomeRoadSplits.jpg" alt="" width="581" height="61" /></a> </strong></p>
<p><em>Source: Baseball-reference.com</em></p>
<p>Although the Yankees acquisition of Kuroda has <a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/the-10-best-transactions-of-the-winter/">received some appreciation</a>, there has also been hesitation expressed about his migration from the N.L. West to the more talent laden A.L. East. In addition, there have been concerns over the move from pitcher friendly Dodger Stadium to Yankee Stadium and its short right field porch, a fear heightened by the spike in Kuroda’s HR rate last season. However, during his Dodgers’ career, Kuroda hasn’t been a product of Chavez Ravine. Rather, he has pitched just as well on the road as home (3.43 ERA with .661 OPS against vs. 3.48 and .687). Also, an overlay of Kuroda’s batted balls at Dodger Stadium transferred to Yankee Stadium reveals only two additional HRs (doubles in Los Angeles that would have cleared the left field wall, not the short porch, in the Bronx), which hardly suggests a potential long ball epidemic.</p>
<p><strong>Yankee Stadium Overlay of Kuroda’s Batted Balls at Dodger Stadium<br />
<a href="http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/KurodaOverlay.bmp"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-79917" src="http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/KurodaOverlay.bmp" alt="" /></a></strong></p>
<p><em>Source: <a href="http://katron.org/projects/baseball/hit-location/">http://katron.org/projects/baseball/hit-location/</a></em></p>
<p>There are obvious drawbacks to an overlay, including variables like atmospheric conditions and ballpark-impacted pitch selection (not to mention the accuracy of the simulator). Also, the general trends in Kuroda’s batted ball data suggest an increase in both line drives and fly balls, which doesn’t bode well for his ability to keep opposing hitters in the park. Over his first three seasons, the right hander was able to induce ground balls more than half the time, but in 2011, that rate dropped all the way to 43%. Perhaps more concerning was the precipitous rise in line drives, which seems to justify the spike in Kuroda’s HR rate.</p>
<p><strong>Hiroki Kuroda’s Batted Ball Data<br />
<a href="http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/KurodaBattedBall-1.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-79918" src="http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/KurodaBattedBall-1.jpg" alt="" width="464" height="276" /></a></strong></p>
<p><em>Source: fangraphs.com</em></p>
<p>Does Kuroda’s move toward being more of a fly ball pitcher represent the start of new trend? It’s hard to tell from one year’s worth of data, but a closer look at the home runs he allowed in 2011 might suggest the increase was more of a fluke. Exactly half of the 24 homers allowed by Kuroda came with two strikes, which was more than double the five he allowed in the two seasons prior.</p>
<p>&#8220;I think it&#8217;s a random spike, given the information available,&#8221; said Joe Sheehan of <em>Sports Illustrated</em>. &#8220;The homers themselves were clustered in few outings&#8211;the chance that it&#8217;s some kind of skill issue is less than it just being a blip.&#8221;</p>
<p>In fact, Kuroda’s struggles with two strikes weren’t confined to the long ball. With the exception of 0-2 counts, opposing batters hit well above average against the veteran pitcher in every other two strike combination (<a href="http://www.captainsblog.info/2012/02/07/two-strikes-and-youre-out/12947/">click here for a look at how hitters performed with two strikes in 2011</a>). If Kuroda is able to cut down on the damage against him with two strikes, not only might his HR rate return to more normal levels, but his performance could improve across the board. It’s hard to predict whether or not he will be able to make the adjustment, but perhaps pitching against stiffer competition in a more hitter friendly environment will improve his concentration (i.e., pitch selection) with two strikes on the batter? That’s all conjecture, but regardless, Kuroda has substantial room for improvement in two strike counts.</p>
<p><strong>Hiroki Kuroda’s Performance with Two Strikes, 2011<br />
<a href="http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/KurodaTwoStrikes.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-79919" src="http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/KurodaTwoStrikes.jpg" alt="" width="515" height="110" /></a></strong></p>
<p><em>Note: sOPS+ measures Kuroda’s performance against the league average in a particular split. For example, his sOPS+ of 121 in all two strike counts indicates opposing batters hit 21% better against him.<br />
</em><em>Source: baseball-reference.com</em></p>
<p>Another concern expressed about Kuroda’s transition to the Yankees is the impact of the team’s porous infield defense. However, according to UZR/150 (which, admittedly, is far from an exact barometer), Yankees’ infielders were at least on par with the Dodgers’ at every position but short stop. Also, based on advanced analyses like <a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=15093">Mike Fast’s recent study on catcher framing</a>, Russell Martin ranks as one of the best defensive backstops in the game (according to Fast’s framing data, Kuroda’s catcher in 2011, Rod Barajas, ranked toward the bottom in 2011). Finally, as a group, the Yankees’ outfield led the majors with a UZR/150 of 10.2, which was well above the Dodgers’ rate of 2.8. So, even if Kuroda has gradually become more of a fly ball pitcher, that could play to his advantage on the Yankees, especially if he can get opposing batters to hit the ball to Brett Gardner.</p>
<p><strong>Comparison of Yankees and Dodgers Infield and Outfield Defense, 2011<br />
<a href="http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/YanksDodgersDefense.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-79920" src="http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/YanksDodgersDefense.jpg" alt="" width="487" height="325" /></a></strong></p>
<p><em>Source: fangraphs.com</em></p>
<p>Defense is always an important part of the equation when evaluating pitching, but in Kuroda’s case, it might be a little overrated. Because of his age, and perhaps the perception that he is a control specialist, many people seem to regard Kuroda as a contact pitcher. However, over the last two years, he has proven to be adept at missing bats. Among all qualified pitchers spanning the last two seasons, Kuroda ranks ninth with a swinging strike rate of 10.5%, or two percentage points higher than the league average. If Kuroda can continue to fool hitters, especially during the period when they are learning his patterns, his ability to generate swings and misses could mitigate some of his defense’s shortcomings, if they do exist.</p>
<p><strong>Swinging Strike Rates, 2010-2012<br />
<a href="http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/SwingingStrikeRate.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-79921" src="http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/SwingingStrikeRate.jpg" alt="" width="520" height="313" /></a></strong></p>
<p><em>Source: fangraphs.com</em></p>
<p>There are usually many unanswered questions when a player transitions to a new team and league, so skepticism surrounding Kuroda’s ability to maintain his success in the Bronx is only natural. However, based on his track record and the Yankees’ short-term commitment, there’s every reason to be optimistic that the right hander will be a positive contributor in 2012. Will he be the number two? Such distinctions really have little relevance in the grand scheme of a 162-game season, but <a href="http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2012/02/13/%E6%84%9F-%E8%AC%9D/" target="_blank">if the sentiments expressed by those who know him best are accurate</a>, I wouldn’t bet against it.</p>
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		<title>A.J. Burnett: Up in Smoke?</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2012/02/10/up-in-smoke-3/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Alex Belth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Yanks and the Pirates are talking A.J. Burnett, writes Marc Carig.]]></description>
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<p>The <a href="http://www.nj.com/yankees/index.ssf/2012/02/yankees_pirates_in_trade_talks.html?utm_medium=twitter&amp;utm_source=twitterfeed" target="_blank">Yanks and the Pirates are talking A.J. Burnett, writes Marc Carig</a>.</p>
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		<title>Burn Notice?</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2012/02/08/burn-notice-4/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 16:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Alex Belth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[According to Joel Sherman in the New York Post, the Yanks are still interested in...]]></description>
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<p>According to <a href="http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/yankees/yankees_in_hunt_for_dh_H3FPo7yOcbbwTuW0BhEZcO" target="_blank">Joel Sherman in the New York Post</a>, the Yanks are still interested in Eric Chavez and they are also interested in trading A.J. Burnett.</p>
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		<title>Hall of Mirrors</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2012/02/07/hall-of-mirrors/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 21:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Alex Belth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Twitter says the Yankees have signed Bill Hall to a minor league deal (Erik Boland...]]></description>
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<p>The Twitter says the Yankees have signed <a href="http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/02/yankees-sign-bill-hall.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&amp;utm_medium=twitter" target="_blank">Bill Hall to a minor league deal</a> (Erik Boland of <em>Newsday</em> got their first).</p>
<p>Last week, <a href="http://www.pinstripedbible.com/2012/01/30/more-yankees-possibilities-hall-and-ibanez/" target="_blank">Steven Goldman explained why Hall won&#8217;t cut it</a>.</p>
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		<title>Eating Raul?</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2012/02/06/eating-raul/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 02:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Alex Belth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ibanez, Damon, or Godzilla? The latest gossip is rounded up by D.J. Short over at...]]></description>
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<p>Ibanez, Damon, or Godzilla? The <a href="http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/06/the-yankees-are-in-serious-discussions-with-raul-ibanez/" target="_blank">latest gossip is rounded up by D.J. Short</a> over at <em>Hardball Talk</em>. Ya <a href="http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/06/the-yankees-are-introducing-an-official-fragrance/" target="_blank">smell me</a>?</p>
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		<title>The Hitting Catcher</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 19:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jon DeRosa</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Yankees have won 27 World Series titles, 24 of those teams have featured good...]]></description>
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<p>The Yankees have won 27 World Series titles, 24 of those teams have featured good hitting catchers. The Yankees have qualified for the postseason 51 times, or would have if not for the season-ending strike of 1994, and 44 of those teams have featured good hitting catchers. (Forgive me, I used OPS+, which I know measures nothing, but is right there on the main stat line of baseball-reference.com&#8217;s team pages and tempts the weak.)</p>
<p>When the Yankees have not merely good, but great hitting catchers they really cash in. Yankee teams with starting catchers (again, by baseball-reference&#8217;s definition) sporting an OPS+ of 130 or higher won an average of 99.3 games (prorated for a 162 game season where necessary). When their catcher was between 110-129, they won 96.8 games. The average hitting catchers (90-109) played for teams that won 89.9 games and when the catchers could not hit at all, they won 84 games per season.</p>
<p>By no means is this to say that these players are solely responsible for the successes and failures. But I do think their presence on the roster makes a significant contribution. There are other ways to win for sure, but if it ain&#8217;t broke&#8230; </p>
<p>Typical offensive output behind the plate is so anemic that when a catcher carries a big stick, it&#8217;s an obvious advantage. Factoring in the financial clout of a team like the Yankees, the team does not have to skimp on the rest of the lineup to accomodate a star catcher, cements the gain. The Yankees built dynasty after dynasty on the backs of good hitting catchers.</p>
<p>Dickey, Berra, Howard, Munson and Posada all spring easily to mind. But important platoon guys filled in the cracks. Aaron Robinson helped usher in the Yogi-era; Pat Collins backstopped the legendary late twenties teams. Before them, Wally Schang contrbuted mightily to the first World Series teams by getting on base at a .403 clip from 1921-1923. And as <a title="Mike Stanley Appreciation Week" href="http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2012/01/30/observations-from-cooperstown-ibanez-mike-stanley-and-burnett/">Bruce Markusen pointed out the other day</a>, Mike Stanley helped slug the Yankees out of the misery of the early 90s.</p>
<p>Joe Girardi is the worst hitting catcher on a championship Yankee squad. Most, including me, would forgive him his 75 OPS+ as a Yankee for his triple off Greg Maddux and his graceful yielding of his position to Jorge Posada in 1998.</p>
<p>Now that same light hitting catcher is at the helm as the Yankees try to create their next dynasty. The trade of Jesus Montero means that there is nary a hitting catcher in sight (depending on your squinting abilities). Or if you prefer, the trade of Jesus Montero is probably an admission by the Yankees that he could not be a hitting catcher. Regardless, if the Yankees successfully build a dynasty without one, it&#8217;ll be the first time.</p>
<p>But as Yoda might have said, there is another Montero.</p>
<p>Miguel Montero is a good hitting catcher from Arizona who might become a free agent next year. And he can catch it, too. If he does become available, the Yankees could be in the market. Over at RAB, <a title="RAB on the other Skywalker" href="http://riveraveblues.com/tag/miguel-montero/" target="_blank">Mike Axisa takes a look</a> at what it might take to get him.</p>
<p>Under normal operating conditions the Yanks would rather have Michael Pineda and Miguel Montero at catcher over Jesus Montero as a non-catcher. But these are not normal times. If the $189 million ceiling for the 2014 team is made of bricks, then signing Miguel Montero to a market-rate deal next offseason makes everything else they have to do that much harder.</p>
<p>Where the Yankees go from here is anybody&#8217;s guess. Their minor leagues contain promising catchers, though the hitters are far away from the show. For a team whose championship DNA is riddled with catcher code, if they aspire to another dynasty, I hope a catcher is coming soon and he&#8217;ll be bringing a big bat. </p>
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		<title>Never Enough</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2012/01/26/a-sight-for-sore-eyes/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 19:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Alex Belth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Spotted in midtown. The Score Truck? The Yankee Score Truck? Nah, but close enough. Never...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spotted in midtown. The Score Truck? The Yankee Score Truck? Nah, but close enough.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/scoresk.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-79248" title="scoresk" src="http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/scoresk.jpg" alt="" width="576" height="576" /></a></p>
<p>Never mind the offense and head on over to <a href="http://www.pinstripedbible.com/2012/01/26/you-can-never-have-too-much-pitching-except-when-you-do/" target="_blank">the Pinstriped Bible and check out this post by Rebecca Glass on the Yankees&#8217; pitching</a>.</p>
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		<title>Talkin&#8217; Baseball</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2012/01/25/talkin-baseball-4/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 22:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Alex Belth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another cold winter night in the city. Sox looking to add pitching. Maybe the Yanks...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another cold winter night in the city.</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/" target="_blank">Sox looking to add pitching</a>. <a href="http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2012/01/25/possibility-and-opportunity/" target="_blank">Maybe the Yanks</a> move <a href="http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2012/01/25/girardi-it-wont-be-a-seven-or-six-man-rotation/" target="_blank">a pitcher before Opening Day</a>. Prince Fielder&#8217;s deal: <a href="http://www.captainsblog.info/2012/01/25/prince-fielder-worth-his-weight-just-not-in-projected-war/12723/" target="_blank">pro</a> and <a href="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/cliff_corcoran/01/24/prince.fielder/index.html?sct=mlb_t11_a3" target="_blank">con</a>.</p>
<p>Have at it.</p>
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		<title>On the Move</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2012/01/24/on-the-move-3/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 14:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Alex Belth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Pineda-Montero deal is official. Chad Jennings has the details. Here&#8217;s a nice piece on...]]></description>
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<p>The Pineda-Montero deal is official. <a href="http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2012/01/23/notes-on-a-trade-cashman-montero-and-zduriencik/" target="_blank">Chad Jennings has the details</a>.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s <a href="http://nydn.us/yW5RbQ" target="_blank">a nice piece on Pineda by Christian Red in the Daily News</a>.</p>
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		<title>Cool and Calm</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2012/01/20/cool-and-calm/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 14:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Alex Belth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Coming close to the dead of winter. Not much doing for the Yanks as they...]]></description>
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<p>Coming close to the dead of winter. Not much doing for the Yanks as they <a href="http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/20/montero-pineda-trade-being-held-up-by-visa-weather-issues/" target="_blank">wait to finalize the Pineda-Montero trade</a>. Here&#8217;s a throwaway piece by <a href="http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_/id/7481639/new-york-yankees-alex-rodriguez-prepping-third-says-dh-revolve" target="_blank">Alvaro Morales at ESPN featuring Alex Rodriguez</a>. Over at River Ave Blues, <a href="http://riveraveblues.com/2012/01/a-brief-and-flimsy-case-for-johnny-damon-62674/" target="_blank">Ben Kabak makes a brief (and flimsy) case for Johnny Damon</a>. And at <a href="http://itsaboutthemoney.net/archives/2012/01/18/jim-callis-of-baseball-america-talks-prospects/" target="_blank">It&#8217;s About the Money, Stupid, Chip Buck has an informative Q&amp;A with Jim Callis of Baseball America</a>.</p>
<p>Otherwise, it&#8217;s cool and quiet round here. Snow coming tonight.</p>
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		<title>Color By Numbers: The One that Got Away</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2012/01/19/color-by-numbers-the-one-that-got-away/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 17:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>William Juliano</dc:creator>
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<p>Whenever a team makes a trade involving a young prospect, there’s always a fear he’ll wind up becoming a superstar. Considering the potential of Jesus Montero, that concern had to be foremost on Brian Cashman’s mind as he agreed to send the young hitter to the Seattle Mariners in exchange for Michael Pineda, a very promising prospect in his own right.</p>
<p>Years ago, before the information age, prospects seemed to magically appear on the doorstep of the major leagues. Nowadays, however, fans have the ability to track a player’s progress from the moment he is drafted until he takes his first pro at bat, so it’s easy to understand why many develop an attachment to homegrown prospects. And yet, in most cases, the pent-up anticipation usually leads to disappointment.</p>
<p>Since 1901, 379 position players (includes actives) have made their major debut in pinstripes, but only 52 ended their careers with a WAR higher than 15. Of that subtotal, all but 13 either spent most of their careers with the Yankees or were traded after establishing themselves in the big leagues, including 20 of the top 21 on the list. So, for the most part, the Yankees have been pretty good at not giving away their best position player prospects.</p>
<p><strong>The Ones That Got Away<br />
<a href="http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/WAR15.bmp"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-78767" src="http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/WAR15.bmp" alt="" /></a><br />
</strong><em>Note: Includes players with a WAR greater than 15 who were traded by the Yankees early in their careers.<br />
</em><em>Source: Baseball-reference.com</em></p>
<p>The only discarded Yankee whose career WAR would rank among the franchise’s best homegrown talents is Dixie Walker. After compiling only 422 plate appearances in five seasons with the Yankees, the 25-year old Walker finally blossomed after being sold to the White Sox for $12,000 in 1936. At the time, the Yankees were a powerhouse team about to embark on a four-year championship run, so there was little room for Walker. However, the move still proved to be short sighted, but not until two other teams also passed him over. Once Walker landed in Brooklyn, his career finally took off. In nine seasons as a Dodger, the outfielder compiled an OPS+ of 128 and received MVP votes in seven years. Admittedly, most of Walker’s success came during the war years, but that makes his loss even more regrettable from the Yankees’ standpoint. Had the team not traded him so many years earlier, perhaps Walker’s presence in the lineup would have helped the Bronx Bombers weather the loss of so many others to military service and avoid what for the Yankees was a long World Series drought from 1944 to 1946.</p>
<p>Mike Lowell’s ranking on the list is perhaps the most relevant in light of recent news because, like Montero, he was traded as part of a prospect swap. At the time, the Yankees had a stacked offensive team and decided to make a new three-year commitment to 3B Scott Brosius, which made Lowell expendable. Unfortunately, Ed Yarnall, the pitcher the Yankees received in return, didn’t exactly pan out. After only 20 innings in the Bronx, the lefty was traded to the Cincinnati Reds before departing forJapan. Needless to say, Cashman is hoping Michael Pineda does a lot better.</p>
<p>Like Lowell, Jackie Jensen is another discarded Yankee who eventually made his bones in Boston. In 1951, Jensen had a very strong campaign in limited duty, which he parlayed into being named Joe DiMaggio’s replacement the following year.  Unfortunately for Jenson, that honor was short lived. In fact, it only lasted seven games. After hitting .105 during the first week of 1952, Jensen was traded to the Senators for Irv Noren. In the aftermath of the deal, Casey Stengel admitted that Jensen had talent, but stressed the Yankees’ need for a centerfielder who could “hit, run, field, and throw”. Of course, the irony was the Yankees already had someone on the roster who fit the description. His name was Mickey Mantle.</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>&#8220;We need a centerfielder who can hit, run, field and throw. I tried to give Jensen the job, but he couldn’t hit for me. I couldn’t wait any longer.”</strong> <em>– Casey Stengel, quoted by the New York Times, May 4, 1952</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Less than a month after the trade was made, Mantle was installed as the new center fielder and Noren was reduced to playing a utility role. Meanwhile, Jensen started to find his swing with the Senators, leading AP to suggest that the Yankees “pulled a whopper” by making a rare bad trade. Despite two solid seasons in Washington, Jensen really made his mark with the Red Sox. In seven seasons with Boston, the outfielder compiled an OPS+ of 123 and punctuated his career with an MVP in 1958.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUwSxqnRW-8&amp;feature=youtu.be" target="_blank">Consider this</a>.</p>
<p>Although his name appears at the bottom of the list, Jay Buhner probably stand outs to most fans as the best example of the Yankees trading away a promising young hitter. Seinfeld is largely to thank for that, but Buhner’s OPS+ of 125 with the Mariners wasn’t a work of fiction. Adding insult to injury, Buhner also tormented his former team on the field, batting .283/.379/.548 in over 400 regular season plate appearances to go along with a line of .366/.422/.537 in three post season series.</p>
<p><strong>Top-10 OPS+ by Yankees in Their Debut Season<br />
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</strong><em>Note: Based on a minimum of 50 plate appearances.<br />
</em><em>Source: Baseball-reference.com</em></p>
<p>Albeit in only 69 plate appearances, Jesus Montero had the third highest OPS+ among all position players who debuted with the Yankees. That might seem like a bad omen, but he is surrounded on that list by more than a few players whose careers proved to be disappointments. Will Jesus Montero also follow that path, or join (and perhaps top) the list of young players who excelled after being trading by the Yankees? I wonder what Larry David thinks?</p>
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		<title>Leave the Gun. Take the Cannoli.</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 15:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jon DeRosa</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t relate to pitchers. I had to take the ball from the second grade up through freshman year of high school and I hated it most of the time. I could hit, though, until it was too dark out to see the ball. If my dad&#8217;s arm didn&#8217;t get tired, we might still be out there.</p>
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<p>On a basic level, hitting is reaction and pitching is initiation. I’ve always had trouble getting started. I&#8217;d rather get a feel for something first and join in progress. And the precision required to throw it exactly where you intend every time? Screw that, let me just hit the ball as hard as I can and we&#8217;ll see what happens.</p>
<p>Maybe this prejudice influences the way I envision a baseball roster. The lineup is the body, the pitching staff is the wardrobe. The appearance of the team changes game to game based on the pitcher, but the core is the same. The ace is your best suit, your best reliever could be your smoking jacket. (I guess A.J. Burnett is your kid’s urine-soaked PJs)</p>
<p>So when I heard Jesus Montero was traded for Michael Pineda, I felt like we were trading a neck for a necktie. Sure, the tie is important, but without the neck, what’s the point?</p>
<p>Even without the catching, I&#8217;ll take Montero’s simple, solid bat over the complex musculature of Pineda’s throwing arm. You can watch Montero hit every game, all season long. There&#8217;s no better way to interface with a team than through a star hitter, especially for a young fan, because he&#8217;s always in the lineup.</p>
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<p>I understand that having Pineda in the rotation probably makes the 2012 Yankees a better team than they would have been with Montero as the DH. But in 2013? And 2014?</p>
<p>Arod and Teixeira are already fractions of what they once were and they will be declining in the lineup for years to come. The Yankees have one big hitter in his prime, Cano, who is fierce but not flawless. You don’t have to squint too hard to see a Yankee team desperate for hitting.</p>
<p>The more I think about the trade, the more comfortable I am with Cashman&#8217;s logic and his vision. But I am firmly on the Montero side of the debate. It boils down to this: if they both become stars, I&#8217;d want Montero to be a Yankee.</p>
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		<title>Inquire Within</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 14:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Alex Belth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who will DH? Joe Pawlikowski,  Howard Megdal and Craig Calcaterra have some thoughts.]]></description>
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<p>Who will DH? <a href="http://riveraveblues.com/2012/01/plenty-of-low-risk-options-available-for-dh-62479/" target="_blank">Joe Pawlikowski</a>,  <a href="http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/null/2012/01/5053559/yankees-dont-need-much-else-thats-market-except-maybe-wilson-betemit" target="_blank">Howard Megdal</a> and <a href="http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/18/vlad-guerrero-raul-ibanez-have-called-the-yankees-peddling-dh-services/" target="_blank">Craig Calcaterra</a> have some thoughts.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Belth</dc:creator>
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<p>Here&#8217;s <a href="http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/14160/extreme-makeover-yankees-rotation-edition" target="_blank">Jonah Keri&#8217;s reaction to the Pineda-Montero trade</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>When breaking down a player&#8217;s value, it&#8217;s easy to fixate on his weaknesses. Pineda&#8217;s got some question marks, but two of the main criticisms levied against him — that he was a lousy pitcher away from Safeco Field and that he faded badly down the stretch last season — don&#8217;t hold water. Dave Cameron broke down both those criticisms, noting that Pineda&#8217;s core skills stayed strikingly consistent, and that luck and regression toward the mean played far bigger roles in his fluctuating stats.</p>
<p>Within that post, Cameron explained that despite its enormous reputation as a pitcher-friendly stadium, Safeco doesn&#8217;t play as an extreme park in right field, only left-center. That part is true: Safeco dinged homers by lefty hitters at a relatively modest 5 percent rate. Problem is, Yankee Stadium&#8217;s ludicrously short porch in right helped inflate homers at that park a massive 43 percent. That&#8217;s not to say that no right-handed pitcher can possibly survive in that park. Some chap named Mariano Rivera&#8217;s been pretty OK there so far. Like Rivera, Pineda offers a pitch that&#8217;s highly effective against left-handed hitters, a slider that at its best bites down and in. It&#8217;s just a one-year sample size, but Pineda held lefties to just .237/.296/.357 in 2011. Still, there&#8217;s a seed of doubt here. Pineda posted the seventh-lowest ground-ball rate among all qualified starting pitchers last year. You can try to apply a simple park adjustment to a fly-ball pitcher moving from a homer-suppressing stadium to a nightmarish launching pad, but it&#8217;s unlikely that Pineda&#8217;s move to Yankee Stadium will be that easy to predict. He might see one too many elevated fastballs scrape over the wall, panic, change his approach, and fall apart. Or maybe he&#8217;ll become a Yankee in the Paul O&#8217;Neill mode, embracing his new digs and playing above his already considerable talent.</p>
<p>• That&#8217;s what makes this trade so fascinating. Though it&#8217;s not a swap of players at the same position, it still resembles what you&#8217;d call a challenge trade. Before this offseason, you&#8217;d have to dig deep to find examples of high-impact young players traded for each other; deals tend more often to involve one veteran for a bunch of prospects, or pretty much any other combination that&#8217;s not two wildly hyped 22-year-olds changing teams. One of the biggest (and only) ones that immediately jump to mind was 2007&#8242;s swap of Delmon Young for Matt Garza — and even that&#8217;s cheating, since Jason Bartlett was also a key part of that trade. There&#8217;s also Josh Hamilton for Edinson Volquez, but for whatever reason, this type of trade has suddenly become all the rage. There were other players involved, but Mat Latos for Yonder Alonso fits the profile. So too does Anthony Rizzo for Andrew Cashner. If two teams laying it on the line by trading young, potential impact players is about to become a trend, I&#8217;m all for it.</p></blockquote>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2012 14:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Alex Belth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#160; It is remarkable how news is delivered and digested in the Twitter Era. It...]]></description>
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<p>It is remarkable how news is delivered and digested in the Twitter Era. It comes at us in a flurry&#8211;rumors, confirmations, reactions, analysis. There is little time for reflection and an overload of hyperactive reaction.</p>
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<p>Last night, the trade of Jesus Montero to the Mariners for Michael Pineda, prompted conflicting feelings for Yankee fans. Many are disappointed to see Montero leave. Here is a player that was nurtured by the organization&#8211;even though they dangled him a year-and-a-half ago to Seattle for Cliff Lee&#8211;a guy who looked more than promising when he arrived in the Bronx late last year. Montero was hyped, of course, this being New York, but he was also a player that many of us felt would be a pleasure to watch in pinstripes for the next decade. And now that is gone&#8211;<em>whoosh</em>.</p>
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<p>Montero is being replaced by the another promising player, a young pitcher with a great fastball and an effective silder, but Pineda is not our guy. We&#8217;ve got no attachment to him yet. He&#8217;s just a face, a stat line. He&#8217;s not The Jesus.</p>
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<p>The arguments run both ways&#8211;hitters aren&#8217;t as risky as pitchers, a starting pitcher is more valuable than a DH, a great hitter catcher is even more important than a good starting pitcher&#8211;and they are all valid. Yankee fans are experiencing duel emotions but there is room to mourn the loss of Montero and to be eager about the addition of Pineda. The risk involved in trading something as precious as Montero and Pineda makes this all the more unsettling. So we&#8217;re anxious, and that&#8217;s what makes this exciting and gives us baseball nerds something to keep  our engines going in the middle of winter.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/tumblr_ltzzec304b1qfsee9o1_500.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-78482" title="tumblr_ltzzec304b1qfsee9o1_500" src="http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/tumblr_ltzzec304b1qfsee9o1_500.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="568" /></a></p>
<p>Here are reactions around the web from: <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/14/sports/baseball/yankees-trade-jesus-montero-for-michael-pineda.html?_r=1&amp;ref=baseball" target="_blank">David Waldstein (The Times)</a>; <a href="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/cliff_corcoran/01/14/pineda-montero-trade/index.html?sct=mlb_t11_a1" target="_blank">Cliff Corcoran (SI)</a>; <a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/yankees-remake-rotation-in-one-night/" target="_blank">Paul Swydan (Fangraphs)</a>; <a href="http://www.pinstripedbible.com/2012/01/14/the-montero-pineda-trade-rotation-upgrade-at-a-sustainable-cost/" target="_blank">Steven Goldman (Pinstriped Bible)</a>; <a href="http://www.captainsblog.info/2012/01/13/yanks-resurrect-rotation-trade-montero-for-pineda/12511/" target="_blank">William J (The Captain&#8217;s Blog)</a>; can&#8217;t forget <a href="http://nomaas.org/2012/01/cashman-emerges-from-crystal-lake-murders-everyone/" target="_blank">No Maas</a>, and over at <a href="http://itsaboutthemoney.net/archives/2012/01/13/and-friday-night-yankees-blogosphere-explodes/" target="_blank">It&#8217;s about the Money Stupid, check out this fine collection of links from around the web</a>.</p>
<p>Finally, here&#8217;s <a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/yankees-land-michael-pineda-dont-pay-retail/" target="_blank">Dave Cameron with a scouting report on Pineda over at Fangraphs</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Among qualified AL starting pitchers last year, only Brandon Morrow and Justin Verlander posted a higher strikeout rate than Pineda, who whiffed 24.9% of the batters he faced. His K% was better than David Price, CC Sabathia, and yes, even Felix. Pineda’s live fastball and willingness to live up in the strike zone led to a lot of swinging strikes, and that had nothing to do with the park he played in.</p>
<p>Lots of young pitchers can throw hard and rack up strikeouts, however. What sets Pineda apart is his impeccable command at such a young age. 66 percent of the pitches he threw last year were strikes, and his 7.9% BB% was below the league average. It is highly uncommon to see a kid with that kind of live arm arrive in the Major Leagues pounding the zone, but that’s exactly what Pineda did. 94-97 MPH fastballs to get ahead, and then an out-pitch slider or a fastball out of the zone with two strikes to get the K. It was a recipe for success, and Pineda used his command of those two pitches to establish himself as one of the game’s best young starting pitchers.</p>
<p>So, while he’s not perfect (his change-up is lousy and left-handers can still jump on him from time to time), Yankees fans should be thrilled with their new addition. And, given the price that other young arms have been fetching this winter, they should be even more thrilled with the cost.</p>
<p>Pineda is the third quality young arm to get traded this winter, following the trades that shipped Gio Gonzalez to Washington and Mat Latos to Cincinnati. Given that both pitchers come with one fewer year of team control and lack Pineda’s dominating fastball, a strong case could be made that the Yankees new starter is the most valuable asset of the three guys that were moved. However, compared to the other two packages surrendered, the Yankees didn’t really pay much of a premium to get Pineda, and one could even make an argument that they gave up less value overall than what the Reds surrendered to get Latos.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Jesus Has Left the Building (When the Sh** Goes Down, You Better Be Ready)</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2012 01:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Alex Belth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dag, I leave the Internet for a few hours, and the Yanks spring into action....]]></description>
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<p>Dag, I leave the Internet for a few hours, and the Yanks spring into action. Word has it that they&#8217;ve shipped out <a href="http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/13/report-mariners-close-to-a-trade-for-a-young-impact-hitter/" target="_blank">The Jesus and Hector Noesi to the Mariners for Michael Pineda and another young pitcher named Jose Campos</a>. In another move, they will sign <a href="https://twitter.com/#!/JackCurryYES/status/157995526921535488" target="_blank">Hiroki Kuroda to a one-year contract</a> pending a physical.</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t figure the Yanks would stay on the low forever. They move Montero for another promising young talent in Pineda. I&#8217;m not expert but seems like a win-win sort of deal. As much as I would have liked to see Montero, I&#8217;m thrilled that the Yanks are getting a gifted young starter in Pineda. And I know they&#8217;ve coveted Kuroda since last season.</p>
<p>Wonder if they&#8217;d go nutzo and make a play for Prince to DH. Doubt it, but hey, let&#8217;s have some fun. And what about the starting staff? Phil Hughes and AJ Burnett? What&#8217;ll happen? After a quiet winter, put another log on the fire and let&#8217;s have at it.</p>
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		<title>Things Fall Apart</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 17:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Alex Belth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hiroyuki Nakajima? Pass.]]></description>
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<p>Hiroyuki Nakajima? <a href="http://www.pinstripedbible.com/2012/01/05/nakajima-vs-chavez/" target="_blank">Pass.</a></p>
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		<title>Just a Little Patience</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 13:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Alex Belth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Over in the New York Times, Tyler Kepner explains the Yankees&#8217; approach this off-season: It...]]></description>
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<p>Over in the <em>New York Times</em>, <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/04/sports/baseball/yankees-take-conservative-approach-to-2012-setting-sights-on-next-free-agent-class.html?_r=2&amp;src=me&amp;ref=sports" target="_blank">Tyler Kepner explains the Yankees&#8217; approach this off-season</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>It turns out the Yankees are not obliged to sign a player just because he happens to be a free agent who would fill a need. They won 97 games last season, the most in the league, before their first-round playoff loss. They can give it another try with these players and go back on the market next winter, when the free-agent starters should be much more appealing.</p>
<p>Cole Hamels and Matt Cain, All-Stars younger than 30 with strong postseason pedigrees, are unsigned past this season. Either would make more sense for the Yankees, in the long term, than [C.J.] Wilson or the other top starters on this winter’s market.</p>
<p>&#8230;What they are doing is planning ahead, a strategy that fits Hal Steinbrenner much better than it ever did his impatient father, George. Incentives in the new collective bargaining agreement would essentially reward the Yankees for reducing their payroll to $189 million by 2014. By then, Burnett, Mariano Rivera, Rafael Soriano and Nick Swisher will be off the payroll, which has exceeded $200 million in each of the last four years.</p>
<p>At the moment, the Yankees owe just over $80 million to Sabathia, Alex Rodriguez, Mark Teixeira and Derek Jeter for 2014. That leaves a lot of room for marquee talent, some of which is already in pinstripes.</p></blockquote>
<p>This is all so sensible, though it feels odd on some level, a George-less Yankee team, one that exercises caution. Part of me is waiting for someone there to stop making sense&#8211;another Soriano maybe? In the meantime, they are being very Dude-like about it. Go figure.</p>
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		<title>Meanwhile, South of the Border</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2012 13:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Alex Belth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chad Jennings is back in action over at the Lo-Hud and he&#8217;s got a report...]]></description>
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<p>Chad Jennings is back in action over at the Lo-Hud and he&#8217;s <a href="http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2012/01/02/winter-leagues-moving-into-the-postseason/" target="_blank">got a report on the winter leagues</a>. Check it out.</p>
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