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		<title>Love Story</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2012/05/11/love-story/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 15:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Alex Belth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The good folks at Deadspin have this excerpt from Frank Deford&#8217;s new memoir. It concerns...]]></description>
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<p>The good folks at <a href="http://deadspin.com/5908748/everybody-loved-grantland" target="_blank">Deadspin have this excerpt from Frank Deford&#8217;s new memoir</a>. It concerns Granny Rice.</p>
<p>Have at it.</p>
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		<title>Clown College</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2012/05/09/clown-college/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 13:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jon DeRosa</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steve Kerr advocates raising the NBA&#8217;s age limit over at Grantland. His argument is that the NBA is...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve Kerr <a title="oh the humanity..." href="http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7883540/steve-kerr-problems-age-limit-nba" target="_blank">advocates raising the NBA&#8217;s age limit</a> over at<em> Grantland</em>. His argument is that the NBA is better served financially by having players in college longer. And in the end, Steve, isn&#8217;t what&#8217;s in the best financial interests of  the NBA really what&#8217;s best for America?</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/steve_kerr1.jpg"><img class="aligncenter  wp-image-84730" title="steve_kerr[1]" src="http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/steve_kerr1.jpg" alt="" width="594" height="288" /></a></p>
<p>The dreckiest sentence in this mountain of dreck is this one: &#8220;Why should NBA franchises assume the responsibility and financial burden of player development when, once upon a time, colleges happily assumed that role for them?&#8221;</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s rewrite that question for Steve, but add one single ounce of humanity and perspective: &#8220;Why should anyone other than the NBA assume the responsibility and financial burden of player development?&#8221; Steve thinks the NBA is <em>entitled</em> to reap the corrupted benefits of the professional basketball player factory that is the NCAA.</p>
<p>And thank goodness for the NCAA. Assuming responsibilty over here and financial burden over there, all out of the goodness of their collective heart. The NCAA and NBA have concocted a virtually risk-free scam in which the NCAA develops talent at no cost, funnels that talent into a monopoly.  The only potential risk is a player getting hurt before he gets pushed through the funnel. That&#8217;s a minimal risk because the flow of talent is endless.</p>
<p>Well, minimal risk for the NBA and NCAA anyway. But screw the kid. That&#8217;s Kerr&#8217;s point and at least he had the guts to state it bluntly - albeit after he piled on about 2000 words of tone-deaf platitudes and other compost:</p>
<blockquote><p>The arguments against raising the age requirement hinge on civil liberties, points like, &#8220;Who are we to deny a 19-year-old kid a chance to make a living when he can vote, drive, and fight in a war?&#8221; If this were about legality or fairness, you might have a case. But it&#8217;s really about business. The National Basketball Association is a multi-billion-dollar industry that depends on ticket sales, sponsorships, corporate dollars, and media contracts to operate successfully. If the league believes one rule tweak — whatever it is — would improve its product and make it more efficient, then it should be allowed to make that business decision.</p></blockquote>
<p>With that guiding principle Steve, what other &#8220;rule tweaks&#8221; might serve the greater good of the NBA, and by definition, America? An endless and frightening list of things comes to mind. No business should be allowed to violate fundamental freedoms of our society to improve their bottom line. That type of thinking is vile.</p>
<p>And why is <em>Grantland</em> publishing this badifesto? I&#8217;m not asking an entire collection of writers to speak with one voice, but dropping in a non-writer with partisan ties to an issue to editoriolize is in poor taste. Especially when his case is so glaringly weak and offered without counterpoint.</p>
<p>I also don&#8217;t think rich, old, White men should be allowed to arbitrarly decide when impoverished, young, Black adults should be allowed to earn a living in their chosen profession, but Steve Kerr deftly dealt with that issue by not mentioning it.</p>
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		<title>Breast or Bottle?</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2012/05/02/breast-or-bottle/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 14:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Alex Belth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Head on over to Grantland for a long appreciation of the Chipmunks by Bryan Curtis....]]></description>
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<p>Head on over to <a href="http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7878532/larry-merchant-leonard-shecter-chipmunks-sportswriting-clan" target="_blank">Grantland for a long appreciation of the Chipmunks by Bryan Curtis</a>. Nice to see Shecter, Merchant, Isaacs, <a href="http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2011/06/23/bronx-banter-interview-george-vecsey/" target="_blank">Vecsey</a> and company celebrated.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/BywRLbw2kKGrHqEOKj0EMFfnVeVBMTGoInbBg_351.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-84364" title="!BywRLbw!2k~$(KGrHqEOKj0E)MFfnVeVBMTGoInbBg~~_35" src="http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/BywRLbw2kKGrHqEOKj0EMFfnVeVBMTGoInbBg_351-e1335968238770.jpg" alt="" width="154" height="213" /></a></p>
<p>The only problem I have with the piece is how Jimmy Cannon is portrayed. It&#8217;s not that Curtis is inaccurate in saying that Cannon was tired and bitter by the mid-&#8217;60s, or that he was the foil that the Chipmunks needed (too bad there is no mention of Dick Young). Curtis lampoons Cannon&#8217;s writing style but I wish it was balanced with a sense of how good Cannon was in his prime. Cannon is seen here as he&#8217;s most often remembered these days&#8211;an out-of-touch old timer who had become a parody of himself. That&#8217;s a shame because while Cannon was sentimental to a fault when he was bad, he was terrific, one of the very best, when he was good.</p>
<p>[Picture by <a href="http://bagnostian.tumblr.com/archive" target="_blank">Bags]</a></p>
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		<title>Chit Chit Chatter</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2012/04/25/chit-chit-chatter-4/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 20:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Alex Belth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here me blab about the Yanks and sports writing on The Sports Casters podcast. I...]]></description>
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<p>Here me blab about the Yanks and sports writing on <a href="http://www.sports-casters.com./" target="_blank">The Sports Casters podcast</a>. I had a fun time, as always.</p>
<p>[Image via <a href="http://www.neumann.com/?id=news_current&amp;lang=fr" target="_blank">Newmann</a>]</p>
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		<title>Bring it Back, Come Rewind</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2012/04/09/bring-it-back-come-rewind-2/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2012 13:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Alex Belth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I liked this bit from Emilie Miller&#8217;s piece in the Times about growing up as...]]></description>
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<p>I liked this bit from <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/08/sports/baseball/ballpark-upbringing-creates-lifelong-fan.html?_r=1&amp;ref=baseball#" target="_blank">Emilie Miller&#8217;s piece in the Times about growing up as the daughter of a famous baseball broadcaster</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>To spend so much time in a space that fills night after night with tens of thousands of fans who love a team deeply, and to grow up surrounded by people who, at every pay level, love where they work, was beautiful. I still love sitting in the stands before the stadium opens; it feels like a cathedral, filled only with potential and the sound of flags whipping in the wind. Yet baseball is also the reason I will be forever fond of obnoxiously loud pop music and hot dogs.</p>
<p>When we did not go to the ballpark, Holly and I listened to games on the radio to help us sleep. During the off-season, my father would play cassettes of old games, which, he contends, acted like a sedative.</p></blockquote>
<p>I never taped games but it sounds like a cherce idea. I used to listen to comedy albums as a sedative: Cosby, Carlin&#8211;especially &#8220;Occupation: Foole&#8221; and &#8220;Class Clown&#8221;&#8211;the 2000 Year Old Man albums, the Woody Allen double lp, &#8220;A Star is Bought&#8221; by Albert Brooks. They calmed me down and were good company.</p>
<p>[Photo Credit: <a href="http://stable.tumblr.com/post/20247468955" target="_blank">Stable</a>]</p>
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		<title>Take Me Out</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2012/04/04/take-me-out-2/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2012 13:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Alex Belth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tomorrow night in the Village, Glenn Stout, Jay Jaffe, Steven Goldman and Dan Barry are...]]></description>
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<p>Tomorrow night in the Village, <a href="http://www.gelfmagazine.com/archives/a_ballpark_birthday.php" target="_blank">Glenn Stout</a>, <a href="http://www.gelfmagazine.com/archives/the_war_is_over_but_the_work_isnt.php" target="_blank">Jay Jaffe, Steven Goldman</a> and <a href="http://www.gelfmagazine.com/archives/and_the_game_played_on.php" target="_blank">Dan Barry</a> are the featured speakers at <a href="http://www.gelfmagazine.com/gelflog/archives/april_5_varsity_letters_welcomes_back_baseball.php" target="_blank">Gelf&#8217;s Varsity Letters reading series</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m so there.</p>
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		<title>Bleacher Creature</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2012/03/21/bleacher-creature/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 13:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Alex Belth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The old perfessor, Mr. Goldman, has a new address. Bookmark it, baby. Course you can...]]></description>
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<p>The old perfessor, Mr. Goldman, <a href="http://bleacherreport.com/horsehidechronicles" target="_blank">has a new address</a>. Bookmark it, baby.</p>
<p>Course you can still find him at <a href="http://www.pinstripedbible.com/" target="_blank">Pinstriped Bible</a> as well.</p>
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		<title>Bronx Banter Interview: Paul Haddad</title>
		<link>http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2012/03/19/bronx-banter-interview-paul-haddad/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 18:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Alex Belth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Paul Haddad&#8217;s new book about the Dodgers&#8211;available now at Amazon&#8211;is a real treat for all...]]></description>
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<p>Paul Haddad&#8217;s new book about the Dodgers&#8211;<a href="http://www.amazon.com/High-Fives-Pennant-Drives-Fernandomania/dp/1595800670" target="_blank">available now at Amazon</a>&#8211;is a real treat for all baseball fans. Paul grew up listening to Vin Scully and we&#8217;re fortunate that he recorded some of those broadcasts. Head on over to <a href="http://www.dodgerglory.com/radio--tv-calls-78-to-81.html" target="_blank">Paul&#8217;s site and check out this gallery of audio clips</a>.</p>
<p>Here are a few that Paul was good enough to share with us:</p>
<p>Mike Scioscia&#8217;s first major league home run:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/3-Scioscias_First_HR_80.mp3">Scioscia&#8217;s_First_HR_&#8217;80</a></p>
<p>This one, according to Haddad, is &#8220;classic Vin, weaving in a story between pitches, and then he gets caught off guard and does a great, unorthodox (for him) home run call.  He&#8217;s talking about Mets&#8217; reliever Neil Allen&#8217;s desire to wear number 13, back when wearing such things was considered &#8220;bad luck.&#8221;  This Pedro Guerrero homer happened in the 8th inning on May 15, 1981.  It tied the game and the Dodgers won it in the 9th.  My 15-year-old self sets up the action, rather blandly.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/17-Hes_Wearing_It_81.mp3">He&#8217;s_Wearing_It_&#8217;81</a></p>
<p>This was in Game 6 of the 1981 World Series. &#8220;It was still a close game when Nettles made this great play to rob Derrel Thomas in the 6th inning,&#8221; says Haddad. &#8220;But by the time the inning was over, the Yankees were down, 8-1. Anyway, this play is what I’ll always remember of Nettles in the World Series, just always leaving you flabbergasted. This also is an example of Vin sharing the booth for a postseason game – in this case, Sparky Anderson.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Great_play_by_Nettles_Gm_6_81.mp3">Great_play_by_Nettles_Gm_6_&#8217;81</a></p>
<p>&#8220;OK, this last one is sort of a wild card,&#8221; Haddad said.  &#8221;It’s Vin admonishing home fans in left field who were pelting left fielder Jose Cruz as it became apparent the Astros were going to cruise into the playoffs by clobbering the Dodgers in the one-game tiebreaker in 1980. During this clip, Vin makes reference to the Yankees and the “zoo… the animals” that the Dodgers thought inhabited the place! This goes with my notion that Yankee Stadium was scary to me, even from afar.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Vin_reprimands_fans_for_pelting_Jose_Cruz_Gm_163_80.mp3">Vin_reprimands_fans_for_pelting_Jose_Cruz,_Gm_163,_&#8217;80</a></p>
<p>Meanwhile, I had the chance to chat with Paul about his book. Enjoy.</p>
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<p><strong>BB: We don’t have anything like Vin Scully in New York. Can you talk about what he meant to you as a kid in the context of life in L.A.?</strong></p>
<p><strong>Paul Haddad:</strong> Vin Scully is the main reason I got into the Dodgers. My Dodger obsession was just as equally a Vin obsession – they were intertwined and you couldn’t imagine one without the other. Fans in 1976 already knew this, naming Vinny the “most memorable personality” in Dodger history, and this from a team that’s had no shortage of iconic players or big personalities. My parents were not baseball fans, but growing up in Los Angeles, Vin’s voice was ubiquitous, like the smell of night jasmine, or smog. You would hear his warm baritone emanating out of storefronts, car windows, gas stations, parking lot booths, even people walking down the street clutching a transistor radio. So really, all those years of hearing this magnificent voice around town lured me into becoming a Dodger fan.</p>
<p>Beyond the spell of his voice and impeccable delivery, I think Vin’s continuity – he’s entering his 63rd year as the Dodgers’ broadcaster – is a big factor in why he’s cherished by so many generations. I work in television, and last year I executive produced a cool series for Cooking Channel called “The Originals,” in which chef Emeril Lagasse visited historic restaurants around the U.S. and hobnobbed with kitchen staff who have been part of these eateries for 50 or 60 years. In New York, we visited places like Keens Steakhouse, Peter Luger, Il Vagabondo and Katz’s Deli. The stories from customers were all the same – I come here to feel a connection to the past and so my kids can experience something that’s real. Vin is a lot like these iconic restaurants – timeless, classy, comforting. He&#8217;s an original.</p>
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<p><strong>BB: You mention Vin being heard everywhere. I have a sense of what that means in a city like New York. You can walk down the street and see a playoff game on the TV in the bars and know people are following it. But L.A. is so vast and spread out, you never seem to be falling over each other out there, if anything, I always get the sense that people want to be left alone. Can you explain Vin&#8217;s connective power in place that seems so disconnected?</strong></p>
<p><strong>PH:</strong> Yes, well put, Alex. Because Los Angeles is so spread out and is such a car culture, it lends itself to isolation, and it can be a very lonely place if you don’t have a good social network in place. I think people here do want to connect with other people, it’s just harder to do. And that’s what Vin brings to the table. You don’t hear his voice wafting throughout the city nearly as much now, as it’s become more diverse and baseball’s – especially the Dodgers’ – hold on the city wanes (this is a Laker town now). But as a kid, his radio broadcasts cut through all socio-economic boundaries and it got people talking to each other. A guy in a business suit could walk into a hardware store after work, and he’d bond with the cashier, who had the radio on. Dodger broadcasts allowed for meaningful exchanges between Angelinos who might not otherwise connect with each other.</p>
<p><strong>BB: Did Chick Hearn have the same kind of impact that Vin has had?</strong></p>
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<p><strong>PH:</strong> He did, in different ways. You could say Chick’s impact on the sport of basketball is even more profound than Vin’s on baseball. Chicky Baby contributed so many phrases that we now take for granted, like slam-dunk, dribble-drive, air ball, finger roll, no harm/no foul, and on and on. From a personal standpoint, I got into the Lakers around the same time as I did the Dodgers, and that was largely because of Chick. Even at 11, I knew brilliance when I heard it, and Chick sucked me in with the way he described the action. He was also funny. When the Lakers got sloppy while showboating, the “mustard was off the hot dog.” If Magic duped a defender, he “put him in the popcorn machine.” And of course, when he felt a game was out of reach, it was “in the refrigerator.” It’s interesting, while I was digging up my old audio tapes and digitizing them, I came across a couple spots where I randomly recorded Laker games so I could rehear Chick during the off-seasons. But ultimately I think I gravitated more toward Vin because the nature of baseball allows for more storytelling and less flash, which was more appealing to me. He was just more comforting to listen to, especially coming out of a transistor radio under your pillow at nights. So if forced into a Sophie’s Choice of Local Broadcasters, I’d have to say I enjoyed Vin and what he brought to the table just a little bit more.</p>
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<p><strong>BB: I’ve always wondered, does he have a nickname or is he just known as Vin or Vinny?</strong></p>
<p><strong>PH:</strong> Vin is simply known as Vin or Vinny to fans. On air, when he slips into self-deprecating mode, he&#8217;ll say, &#8220;Nice going, red.&#8221; But only Vin seems to call himself &#8220;Red.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>BB: Vin is such an icon, do you have any sense of what he&#8217;s like as a man? Does that matter to you?</strong></p>
<p><strong>PH:</strong> Vin is famously private and modest. He has refused all calls for an autobiography. I know what most people know through the few books and articles on him. You can often glean things about him through his broadcasts. His love of Broadway tunes, his adoration of children, his Catholic schooling with the nuns putting him in his place. I know he’s ferociously patriotic. Every June 6, you can count on Vin to gently reprimand younger viewers for not remembering D-Day, and then explaining its significance. He’s like Johnny Carson was – a very public figure leading a guarded life out of the spotlight. I always admire and respect people like that.</p>
<p>I met Vin one time, in 1996, when I was a TV producer for E! Before the game, I got to visit him in the press booth, and up rose this redheaded man with a crooked smile and sparkly eyes, greeting me like an old friend.</p>
<p><strong>BB: That must have been a thrill.</strong></p>
<p><strong>PH:</strong> Meeting him was surreal. As he said hello and shook my hand, I couldn&#8217;t believe I was pounding flesh with a living legend. My mouth went immediately dry. The analogy I use with friends is, imagine the animatronic Lincoln coming to life in the &#8220;Great Moments with Mr. Lincoln&#8221; exhibit at Disneyland (I&#8217;m not sure they even have that exhibit at Disney World).</p>
<p>What I took away from it was Vin&#8217;s famed work ethic. Here&#8217;s how I describe it in my book:</p>
<blockquote><p>As we were leaving to head over and interview organist Nancy Bea Hefley, I asked my contact, “So was that a radio ad he was voicing?”</p>
<p>He rubbed his chin. “Mmmmm . . . I think he was practicing.”</p>
<p>“For the ad?”</p>
<p>“For the game.”</p>
<p>The game wasn’t going to start for at least an hour and a half.</p>
<p>But even after almost fifty years, there was Vin, getting his game on, still living by the credo passed down to him by mentor Red Barber from their Brooklyn days: be there early, and be prepared.</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>BB: Has Vin always worked alone calling Dodgers games?</strong></p>
<p><strong>PH</strong>:Since moving to Los Angeles, at least, Vin has always worked alone on Dodger broadcasts. As he explains, it’s not an ego thing… it’s merely so he can connect directly with listeners. Putting another man in the booth changes that dynamic. All you have to do is listen to the radio duo of Rick Monday and Charley Steiner giggling at each other’s jokes to realize that. I wish more announcers worked alone, but the trend these days seems to be to pair people up, which is a shame. There’s a constant yammering. One of the great things about Vin on radio was how he clammed up after a Dodger hit a home run, to let the listener soak in the home crowd’s cheers. In my book, I actually time out how long those silences were after certain home runs.</p>
<p>Now, of course, Vin did pair up with people like Sparky Anderson or Brent Musburger for CBS Radio’s national baseball broadcasts, and everyone remembers him and Joe Garagiola doing the Games of the Week and three World Series in the ‘80s for NBC. But these were exceptions to the rule to accommodate a national audience. Vin ably acquitted himself, and the other announcers gave him room to maneuver, so it never bothered me.</p>
<p><strong>BB: Do you still listen to old Vin broadcasts? </strong></p>
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<p><strong>PH:</strong> Every once in a while, I’ll break out the old Vin broadcasts. They instantly teleport me back to that time, which usually leads to other imagery from my childhood that has nothing to do with games. They’re like a portal to my memory bank. So I’ll often start listening to them to revisit a call, but they end up having a residual effect beyond the call.</p>
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<p><strong>BB: Do you have a favorite story or call that he made?</strong></p>
<p><strong>PH:</strong> Three calls from 1981 come to mind, all featuring Fernando Valenzuela. Fernando was Vin’s muse, and inspired the artist to new heights. That April 27, 1981 game that caught Fernandomania at its peak (mentioned earlier) remains a high point because he was truly a master at the top of his game. I also love his call on May 14 when Pedro Guerrero hit a home run in the bottom of the ninth inning to help Fernando go 8-0. This is the homer that he dedicated to Fernando, saying, “It’s gone, Fernando, it’s gone!”</p>
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<p>And finally, after El Toro sweated and bluffed his way through that 147 pitch complete-game outing in Game 3 of the World Series, 5-4, Vin was summed it all up with a succinct, “Somehow, this was not the best Fernando game. It was his finest.”</p>
<p><strong>BB: Obviously, he&#8217;s gotten older but what, if anything, has changed about Scully&#8217;s broadcasting over the course of your life?</strong></p>
<p><strong>PH:</strong> That question requires a measured response, because to suggest Vin may not be at the top of his game in Los Angeles brands you a heretic! But I think even Vin himself would say he’s slowed down a bit, much like Chick Hearn did. There’s a snap, a verve to his voice when I listen to those late ‘70s, early ‘80s games, whereas now it’s more grandfatherly and in some ways, more soothing. When the Dodgers hit a clutch home run nowadays, he doesn’t register the same excitement in his voice at 84 that he did at 54. But his insights and storytelling remain sharp, and he still seamlessly weaves narratives between pitches without missing a beat. Vin is like baseball itself – just when you think you’ve seen or heard it all, he surprises you every game with a turn of phrase, a story, an observation that makes you think or smile. I wish he did exclusively radio for a few innings, where I feel his genius is really allowed to flourish. Since Fox regional started broadcasting the games, Vin does a simulcast for the first three innings, with the final six on television. This means Vin is always calling a game for a television audience, which is a different experience than listening to a game on the radio. Time that could’ve been spent working in another anecdote is spent, say, commenting on a slow-motion replay. But the impact of That Voice… that still cuts through any medium.</p>
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<p><strong>BB: I know that the &#8217;77 and &#8217;78 loses to the Yanks were brutal for you. Which was worse?</strong></p>
<p><strong>PH:</strong> Well, 1977 was bad because, at 11 years old and new to baseball, I was ill-prepared for the emotional onslaught that overcame me when Reggie hit his 3 home runs to knock the Dodgers out of the World Series. His casual “Hi, Moms” in the dugout and the seeming effortlessness with which he hit the homers before swaggering around the bases were like kicks in the gut. It reminded me of my older brother and his show-off friends humiliating me, and to know that baseball too had that sort of destructive power on my psyche was a rude awakening. But 1978 was even worse. This was supposed to be the Series in which the Dodgers exacted their revenge. Going up 2 games to none only heightened the expectations. Once the Series switched to the Bronx for the middle three games, it was like living through a nightmare. For one thing, even 3,000 miles away, Yankee Stadium scared me. I was a SoCal kid raised in the sunshiny ‘burbs. My impressions of New York were formed by dark and dangerous movies like “Serpico” and “Taxi Driver,” which I caught many times on Z Channel (a movie subscription channel only in L.A.), and the willy-nilly mob that flooded the playing field at the end of the ’77 Series. Even the “Utz” potato chip sign prominently displayed in right field inexplicably disturbed me. We didn’t have those in Los Angeles, and it spoke of a foreign thing whose pronunciation I couldn’t quite figure out.</p>
<p>My memories of Game 3 are defined by third baseman Graig Nettles and play like a video loop of him making great play after great play after great play. I remember screaming “It’s not fair!” at the TV. He saved at least four runs that game. Game 4 of course was the infamous “hip and run” play by Reggie Jackson. It was one thing for Reggie to beat us fair and square the year before – I couldn’t begrudge him that. But that little hip-jut of his on the basepaths to deflect Bill Russell’s throw… that was downright cheating.</p>
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<p>This is what made this Series so painful. Reggie’s ploy told me that if someone could cheat that openly and get away with it in a sport with clearly defined rules, then there was no justice in this world. (Of course, I didn’t realize at the time that rules are open to interpretation, and no one ever promised there was justice in this world!) I have almost no memories of Games 5 and 6. Everyone knew the momentum had shifted the day before and the Dodgers would lose the Series. The Dodgers seemed to know it too, getting outscored 19-4 in those last two games.</p>
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<p><strong>BB: What is your worst memory? Reggie&#8217;s three homers, Reggie interfering with the ball or Reggie&#8217;s revenge homer against Bob Welch?</strong></p>
<p><strong>PH:</strong> Definitely the non-interference call on Reggie Jackson. To my earlier point, it differed from the others in that it involved a player being duplicitous and getting away with it. And I hate to draw another negative analogy to my older brother – these things shade our perceptions of things as kids, so it’s hard not to – but it reminded me of something my brother would do. Michael was notorious for cheating at board games. During Monopoly, I would often catch him slipping an extra $200 for himself whenever he passed “Go!” while playing the “banker” – a role we all eventually banished him from taking. But just as my brother and I are now close, years later I grew to really respect Reggie Jackson and what he brought to the game. When he signed with the Angels in 1982, I remember being excited that someone who went to any lengths to win a game was now on a local team.</p>
<p><strong>BB: Can you describe the &#8217;81 season, the impact of Fernandomania, Rick Monday&#8217;s homer, and the Series win against the Yanks&#8211;especially in light of how they trailed 2-0?</strong></p>
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<p><strong>PH:</strong> Relief. Like those Rolaids commercials. That was the biggest emotion I felt when the Dodgers finally beat the Yankees after the debacles of ’77 and ’78. And especially once the Dodgers went down 2 games to none in ’81. It was hard to shake that unmistakable “here we go again” feeling. I was also happy that a magical season – despite the players’ strike that shut the season down for 50 days in the middle of summer – did not go to waste. That magic, of course, was led by <a href="http://articles.latimes.com/2010/oct/20/sports/la-sp-erskine-20101021" target="_blank">Fernando Valenzuela</a>. You simply cannot describe the kind of excitement he brought to Dodger Stadium. One of my favorites is the last out of an April 27 game at home that sounds like it’s the last game of the World Series. You had 50,000 rabid fans clamoring for Fernando to strike out the last Giants batter so that he could capture his third shutout in only his fourth big-league start. Vin puts on a clinic – it’s the best I’ve ever heard him and it still gives me goose bumps. In my book, I devote four full pages to this 3 ½ minute at-bat alone. You can hear how much Vin is also swept up in Fernandomania – he even starts trotting out phrases he’s learned in Spanish!</p>
<p>Rick Monday was an enigmatic player for the Dodgers in that he was sort of a bust since coming over from the Cubs in 1977, streaky and often injured. But then in 1981 at age 35 (he looked 45), he finished really strong. As a part-timer that year, he averaged one homer every 11.8 at-bats, which was just a hair behind home run leader Mike Schmidt’s one for every 11.4. So the notion that Rick Monday came out of nowhere to hit that home run that put the Dodgers in the World Series is a bit misleading – he was their hottest player in the second half. As for hearing the actual homer, I was stuck in math class with an unsympathetic teacher named Mr. Bland who would not let us listen to the game (it was played on a Monday afternoon since the day before was rained out). My friend Andrew and I tried to listen to the game on radios that we smuggled into our backpacks and laid on our desks, passing notes back and forth when the teacher turned his back. But Bland busted us. Shortly after we were instructed to turn our radios off, all the other classrooms erupted in deafening cheers, whoops and hollers. They were all listening to the game, courtesy of their teachers! I was seething with resentment – I knew it had to be some kind of momentous home run. Luckily, I had set up a timer to record the game off the radio at home, but hearing it later obviously wasn’t the same thing as hearing it live. Just talking about this now still makes me angry!</p>
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<p>I was 15 ½ years old when the 1981 season ended. I knew instantly after they won the World Series that I would not continue recording their games. Really, after finally beating the Yankees, the team had nowhere to go but down! Turns out I was right – they’ve appeared in (and won) only one World Series in the 30 years since 1981. In the five years I documented them, they got in three times! Who knew after experiencing such heartbreak, we would all look back at those times as the glory years.</p>
<p>[Photographs of <a href="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/1008/vin.scully.rare.photos/content.1.html" target="_blank">Vin Scully via <em>Sports Illustrated</em></a>; pictures of Paul Haddad provided by the author]</p>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Belth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Howard Bryant has a good piece about our increasingly shrill sports culture over at ESPN:...]]></description>
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<p>Howard Bryant has <a href="http://espn.go.com/espn/commentary/story/_/page/bryant-120208/negativity-new-england-patriots-loss-super-bowl-xlvi-alarming" target="_blank">a good piece about our increasingly shrill sports culture over at ESPN</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>As technology expands and speeds discourse, edges have sharpened. The attraction to and appreciation for high-level competition &#8212; ostensibly the reason we watch these golden athletes &#8212; disappear as soon as the final gun sounds. The blame game is our new national pastime.</p>
<p>&#8230;A couple of weeks ago, Charles Barkley told me he believes this dangerous undercurrent is affecting play.</p>
<p>&#8220;Everyone is so worried about whether they win a championship,&#8221; he said. &#8220;They don&#8217;t care about getting there, about having to beat the best to be the best. All they worry about is what is going to be said about them if they don&#8217;t get there. I really believe this. Media and expectations have changed everything. Everyone&#8217;s afraid of it because if you miss a shot, if you miss a play, that overshadows the whole series, your whole career. So guys just want a ring, but they don&#8217;t want to risk losing. If you don&#8217;t want to risk losing, you shouldn&#8217;t even be playing.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>And <a href="http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=mc-spears_kendrick_perkins_lebron_james_blake_griffin_020712" target="_blank">this from a piece on Kendrick Perkins</a> reacting to LeBron James&#8217; tweet about a dunk Blake Griffin threw down over Perkins recently (the story is by Mark J. Spears at Yahoo Sports):</p>
<blockquote><p>“If I was in the same position, in the same rotation, I’m going to jump again and again and again,” Perkins told Yahoo! Sports. “I don’t care. A lot of people are afraid of humiliation or don’t know how to handle embarrassment or would even get embarrassed. I don’t care.</p>
<p>&#8230;“You don’t see Kobe [Bryant] tweeting,” Perkins said. “You don’t see Michael Jordan tweeting. If you’re an elite player, plays like that don’t excite you. At the end of the day, the guys who are playing for the right reasons who are trying to win championships are not worrying about one play.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Last week I heard Jeff Van Gundy refer to a former player as a winner. Not because the player had won a championship but because of the way he practiced and played the game. You can&#8217;t be afraid to fail if you are a true professional. Bryant makes a good point. Our sense of appreciation is often overshadowed these days by a willingness to blame and find fault. But that&#8217;s like a coke binge, bad vibes feeding off bad vibes. Appreciation is the name of the game. In the NFL, there was little that separated the last four teams. To dwell on the mistakes made by the Ravens, 49ners and Patriots is missing the point.</p>
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<p>Stanley Woodward is best remembered today for a wire he almost sent to Red Smith. Woodward was the sports editor for the <em>New York Herald Tribune</em> and Smith was his star columnist. One spring, according to &#8220;Red: A Biography of Red Smith,&#8221; By Ira Berkow,  &#8221;Woodward had been upset with the general sweet fare of columns&#8221; Smith had written. &#8220;Stanley was about to send a wire saying, &#8216;Will you stop Godding up those ball players?&#8221;</p>
<p>Woodward did not send the wire but Smith never forgot the sentiment. He repeated the story in Jerome Holtzman&#8217;s terrific oral history, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Cheering-Press-Box-Jerome-Holtzman/dp/080503823X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1328623209&amp;sr=1-1" target="_blank">&#8220;No Cheering in the Press Box.&#8221;</a></p>
<p>Woodward ran perhaps the finest sports section in New York after WWII. His <em>Tribune</em> staff included Smith, Al Laney, Jesse Abramson and Joe Palmer.</p>
<p>&#8220;Paper Tiger&#8221; is Woodward&#8217;s classic memoir. Fortunately for us, the good people at the <a href="http://www.nebraskapress.unl.edu/catalog/CategoryInfo.aspx?cid=152" target="_blank">University of Nebraska Press</a> reissued the book not long ago (and it features an introduction from <a href="http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2012/01/04/from-ali-to-xena-the-complete-series/" target="_blank">our man Schulian</a>). Woodward&#8217;s gem is in print and it is essential reading. (<a href="http://www.nebraskapress.unl.edu/product/Paper-Tiger,673167.aspx" target="_blank">Check out the &#8220;Paper Tiger&#8221; page at the University of Nebraska Press website</a>.)</p>
<p>Please enjoy this excerpt. Woodward writes about bringing Smith, and Palmer&#8211;a writer who is also criminally overlooked these days&#8211;to the paper.</p>
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<p>From &#8220;Paper Tiger,&#8221; by Stanley Woodward</p>
<p>Mrs. Helen Rogers Reid blew hot and cold on me at various times during my prewar and wartime career with the <em>New York Herald Tribune</em>. When I came back from the Pacific I felt I was in high favor. Not only had I written reams of copy about the nether side of the war but I worked largely by mail and so had not run up the hideous radio and cable bills the lady was used to receiving for war correspondence.</p>
<p>Mrs. Reid was extremely active in running the paper. She was the actual head of the Advertising Department but in the late stages of Ogden’s life she played a role of increasing importance in the Editorial Department. He started to fail in 1945, and his death occurred on January 3, 1947.</p>
<p>My first day in the office after getting back from the Pacific theater, Mrs. Reid invited me to her office and asked me what I would like to do for the paper. I believe I could have had any job I named at the time. But I asked merely to be returned to the Sports Department which needed reorganization. I asked to go back as sports editor on the theory, held by myself at any rate, that I would be moved out of Sports after the department had been put on its feet.</p>
<p>The first move I made was to install Arthur Glass as head of the copy desk. Our selection of news had been poor during the war and our choice of pictures was abysmal. Glass improved the paper the first day he worked in the slot, which was September 4, 1945.</p>
<p>At this time Al Laney was the columnist and didn’t like the job. He much preferred to handle assignments or to get up a feature series as he had in the case of “The Forgotten Men” before the war.</p>
<p>The first move I made was to attempt to get <a href="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/the_bonus/10/14/john.lardner/index.html" target="_blank">John Lardner to write our column</a>. The first time we discussed it we renewed the old crap game argument and got nowhere. The second time I took along our publisher, Bill Robinson, and the talk was more businesslike. We met Lardner several other times but couldn’t come to terms with him. The fact was he didn’t want to write a newspaper column and kept making difficulties. So we dropped him, reluctantly.</p>
<p>Even before we talked to Lardner I had been scouting a little guy on the <em>Philadelphia Record</em> whose name was Walter Wellesley Smith. This character was a complete newspaper man. He had been through the mill and had come out with a high polish. In Philadelphia he was being hideously overworked. Not only did he write the column for the <em>Record</em> but he covered the ball games and took most other important assignments.</p>
<p>We scouted him in our usual way. For a month Verna Reamer, Sports Department secretary, bought the <em>Record</em> at the out-of-town newsstand in Times Square. She clipped all of Smith’s writings and pasted them in a blank book. At the end of the month she left the book on my desk and I read a month’s work by Smith at one sitting. I found I could get a better impression of a man’s general ability and style by reading a large amount of his stuff at one time.</p>
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<p>There was no doubt in my mind that Smith was a man we must have. After I’d read half his stuff I decided he had more class than any writer in the newspaper business.</p>
<p>At first I didn’t think of him as a substitute for Lardner. Rather I wanted to get them both. When dealings with Lardner came to a stop I was afraid I would have to go back to writing a daily column myself, which I dreaded. I thought of myself at this time as an organizer rather than a writer, but Laney was anxious to have a leave of absence to finish the book he was writing (<em>Paris Herald</em>).</p>
<p>I telephoned Smith and asked him if he could come to New York and talk with me. We set a date and he arrived one morning with his wife Kay. She and Ricie paired off for much of the day while Smith and I discussed business.</p>
<p>It must be said that I was making this move without full approval of the management. George Cornish, our managing editor, knew I was looking for a man but was hard to convince when higher salaries were involved.</p>
<p>It is very strange to me that there was no competition in New York for Smith’s services. He was making ninety dollars a week in Philadelphia with a small extra fee for use of his material in the Camden paper, also operated by J. David Stern. Nobody in New York had approached Smith in several years. In fact, he never had had a decent offer from any New York paper. I opened the conversation with Smith as follows—</p>
<p>“You are the best newspaper writer in the country and I can’t understand why you are stuck in Philadelphia. I can’t pay you what you’re worth, but I’m very anxious to have you come here with us. I think that you will ultimately be our sports columnist but all I can offer you at the start is a job on the staff. Are you interested?”</p>
<p>“I sure am if the money is right,” said Red.</p>
<p>We adjourned for lunch and I told him about the paper and what I hoped to make of the Sports Department. I told him that I had lost all interest in sports during the war but now I was determined to make our department the best in the country.</p>
<p>“I can’t do this without you, Red,” I told him.</p>
<p>I left Smith parked in Bleeck’s and went upstairs to talk to George Cornish. With him it was a question of money and he blanched when I told him how much I wanted to pay Smith. I got a halfhearted go-ahead from George, but still I didn’t dare make the offer to Smith.</p>
<p>He owned a house in the Philadelphia suburbs and would be under great expense until he could sell it and move his family to New York. I suggested that we would perhaps be able to pay him an “equalization fee” until he moved his wife and children into <em>Herald Tribune</em> territory.</p>
<p>I went back to see Cornish and broached this subject. No one can say George wasn’t careful with the company’s money. He argued for a while but finally agreed that if we were to bring Smith to New York, it would be fair to save him from penury during his first weeks with us.</p>
<p>I was able to go back to Bleeck’s and make a pretty good offer to Red. I explained to him that his salary would be cut back after his family moved.</p>
<p>“But don’t worry,” I added. “You’ll be making five times that in three years.”</p>
<p>Of course, it turned out that way. As our columnist, Red was immediately syndicated. His salary was boosted within a couple of months and his income from outside papers equaled his new salary. Before anyone knew it he was making telephone numbers—and he deserved it.</p>
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<p>I am unable to account for the fact that none of the evening papers of New York grabbed him. He could have been had, in all probability, for five dollars more a week than we gave him.</p>
<p>With him in hand I was able to let Laney take a few months off to finish his book while I slaved at the column, in addition to other duties. I didn’t want to put Red in too quickly. I wanted him to get the feel of the town first, and also I needed some of his writing in the paper to convince the bigwigs that he was as good as I claimed.</p>
<p>After Smith had been with us a month or so, I talked to Bill Robinson about making him our columnist. I wanted Bill to talk to Mrs. Reid about Smith so that Red would get away from the gate in good order. Bill had been reading him and was enthusiastic about his work. So not long after Smith had shifted his family to Malverne, Long Island, having sold his house, I told him that he was the columnist until further notice.</p>
<p>“I think that means forever, Red. And I’ll go right upstairs and see if I can get you more money.”</p>
<p>As a columnist Smith made an immediate hit and it wasn’t long before the Hearst people were showing interest in him. I told Bill Robinson it was silly not to have a contract with Smith. He agreed and it was drawn up at once. It gave him a large increase in salary and half the returns from his syndicate, which was growing fast. It now includes about one hundred papers.</p>
<p>I’d like to go back to the question of why Smith wasn’t hired by somebody else. My conclusion is that most writing sports editors don’t want a man around who is obviously better than they. I took the opposite view on this question. I wanted no writer on the staff who couldn’t beat me or at least compete with me. This was a question of policy.</p>
<p>I was trying to make a strong Sports Department and it was impossible to do this with the dreadful mediocrity I saw around me on the other New York papers.</p>
<p>The week the Smiths moved from the Main Line to Malverne was memorable. The kids, Kitty and Terry, were dropped off at our farm for a few days so that the parental Smiths could move in peace. I think the kids had a good time playing with our little girls.</p>
<p>Terry, who is now a bright young reporter and a graduate of Notre Dame and the army, was satisfied to sit on the tractor for hours at a time. To be safe I blocked the wheels with logs of wood and took off the distributor cap. The tractor had a self-starter.</p>
<p>With the Smiths established in Malverne, the next move was to get a racing writer. I wrote about twenty-five letters to people in racing—horse owners, promoters, trainers, jockeys, concessionaires, and gamblers. I asked each one whom he considered to be the best racing writer available to the New York <em>Herald Tribune</em>. The response was nearly 100 percent unanimous: “Joe Palmer.”</p>
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<p>I asked Smith if he knew Joe Palmer. He said, “Yes, and he’s a hell of a writer.”</p>
<p>I found that Joe had a regular job on the <em>Blood Horse</em> of Lexington, Kentucky, that he was also secretary of the Trainers’ Association and was currently in New York tending to the trainers’ business.</p>
<p>I got hold of Bob Kelley, my old Poughkeepsie associate, and asked him if he would make an appointment for Palmer to meet for lunch in Bleeck’s restaurant at his convenience. Kelley had left the <em>Times</em> and had become public relations counsel for the New York race track. He got hold of Palmer and conveyed my message. Palmer answered as follows, “Tell that son of a bitch I won’t have lunch with him, and if I see him on the street I’ll kick him in the shins.”</p>
<p>I told Kelley that his answer was highly unsatisfactory and sent him back to talk further with Palmer. This time Joe came into Bleeck’s with his guard up. What he didn’t like about me was that I made a specialty of panning horse-racing. But once we got together we were friends in no time.</p>
<p>Joe liked the idea of working for the <em>Herald Tribune</em>. We came to terms quickly. It was agreed that he should go to work for us on the opening day at Hialeah, some months away. He needed the intervening time to finish his annual edition of <em>American Race Horses</em>.</p>
<p>I didn’t know at this time what a remarkable performer I had hired. Palmer turned out to be a writer of the Smith stripe, and his Monday morning column, frequently devoted to subjects other than racing, became one of the <em>Herald Tribune&#8217;s</em> most valuable features.</p>
<p>I was misguided in the way I handled Palmer. I should never have tied him down with daily racing coverage. He would have been more valuable to us if I had turned him loose to write a daily column of features and notes as Tom O’Reilly did for us much later. But Joe was effective whatever he wrote. He even did a good job on a fight in Florida one winter, though he hated boxing.</p>
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<p>He and Smith were at Saratoga during one August meeting, and Smith persuaded him to go to some amateur bouts, conducted for stable boys and grooms. On their way home Palmer panned the show.</p>
<p>“I’d rather see a chicken fight,” he said.</p>
<p>“Why?” said Smith, outraged. “Chicken fighting is inhuman.”</p>
<p>“Well,” said Joe, “what we just saw was unchicken.”</p>
<p>Palmer was a big man physically and as thoroughly educated as John Kieran. Joe had earned his master’s degree in English in Kentucky and had taught there and at the University of Michigan where he studied for his Ph.D. He could speak Anglo-Saxon. His knowledge of music was stupendous and he would have made a good drama critic for any newspaper.</p>
<p>He had started his thesis at Michigan when he discontinued his education and went to work for the <em>Blood Horse</em>.</p>
<p>He first attracted my attention with a St. Patrick’s Day story in which he revealed that the patron saint’s greatest gift to the Irish was the invention of the wheelbarrow, which taught them to walk on their hind lefts.</p>
<p>Joe, himself, was of Irish decent and was brought up a Catholic. When he moved into a house in Malverne near the Smiths, he didn’t like the public education and sent his children to the parochial school. He decided on this course after a long talk with the mother superior. She asked him if he wanted his children instructed in religion and he said he did.</p>
<p>One day Steve and young Joe were learning the catechism. One of the questions was, “How Many Gods Are There?”</p>
<p>“That’s an important question and I want you to be sure to give the sister the right answer,” said Joe. “Now say this after me: ‘There is but one God and Mohammed is his prophet.’”</p>
<p>The story ends there. Nobody ever found out whether the boys told the sister what Joe told them. It’s a safe bet, though, that their mother, Mary Cole Palmer, touted them off Mohammed.</p>
<p>A few days before Palmer came to work for us, we carried a special story by him explaining his credo of racing and a four-column race-track drawing by the distinguished artist, Lee Townsend. The main point of Joe’s story was, “Horse-racing is an athletic contest between horses.”</p>
<p>He was not interested in betting or the coarser skullduggery that goes on around a race track. For a long time he wouldn’t put the payoff in his racing story.</p>
<p>“Why should I do that?” he asked Smith.</p>
<p>“Because if you don’t, the desk will write it in and probably get it in the wrong place.”</p>
<p>A few days before Joe went to work for us, Tom O’Reilly, another great horse writer, heard about it. He said, or so it was reported to me, “Holy smokes! Those guys will be hiring Thomas A. Edison to turn off the lights.”</p>
<p><em>Excerpted from PAPER TIGER by Stanley Woodward. Copyright © 1962 by Stanley Woodward. Originally published by Atheneum, a Division of Simon &amp; Schuster, Inc. Excerpted with permission by Scribner, a Division of Simon &amp; Schuster, Inc.</em></p>
<blockquote><p>You can <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Paper-Tiger-Sportswriters-Reminiscences-Newspapers/dp/0803259611/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1328623096&amp;sr=1-1" target="_blank">order &#8220;Paper Tiger&#8221; here</a>.</p>
<p>For more on Woodward, check out <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Red-Biography-Smith-Ira-Berkow/dp/B004HX27TI" target="_blank">&#8220;Red: A Biography of Red Smith&#8221; by Ira Berkow</a> and <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Into-My-Own-Remarkable-People/dp/B006G87BYI/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_1?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1328623060&amp;sr=1-1-fkmr1" target="_blank">&#8220;Into My Own,&#8221; a memoir by Roger Kahn</a>.</p>
<p>And read this about Joe Palmer:  <a href="http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/blood-horse.pdf">blood horse</a>.</p></blockquote>
<p>(Thanks once again to Dina C. for her expert transcription.)</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe Paterno died Sunday at age 85. Life and career retrospectives abounded. Wins and losses were mentioned, as were bowl game triumphs, the iconic look he brought to the sidelines every Saturday. Most of all, his contributions to the &#8220;student athlete&#8221; and the culture he created outside the gridiron and the towering edifice that is Beaver Stadium were discussed.</p>
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<p>Not be ignored, though — and it wasn&#8217;t — was his role, his actions and his inaction regarding a certain former assistant coach and alleged pedophile. The Onion&#8217;s <a href="http://www.theonion.com/articles/joe-paterno-dies-in-hospital-doctors-promise-to-te,27125/">satirical headline</a> spoke volumes: &#8220;Joe Paterno Dies In Hospital; Doctors Promise to Tell Their Superiors First Thing Tomorrow&#8221;.</p>
<p>Legacies are meant to demonstrate an example to be set for successors. Sounds simple but legacies are complicated. Look at Ty Cobb, Babe Ruth, Pete Rose, Woody Hayes, Bear Bryant, Bobby Knight, Vince Lombardi, Wilt Chamberlain, Mike Tyson, Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, Tiger Woods, Kobe Bryant, Lawrence Taylor, or most recently, Bill Conlin. Look at any iconic athlete, coach, writer, celebrity or politician whose indiscretions  made them as infamous as their contributions to their chosen fields made them famous. Look at the names I just listed. If we were playing word association, you could probably think of the words racist, drunk, womanizer, gambler, bully, insane, drug addict or kid toucher as quickly as you could think of Hall of Famer, Hit King, 714 home runs, 6 titles or  14 majors. Bryant, winner of 5 NBA titles and still considered in many circles the best player in the sport, was acquitted of the rape charges nine years ago; yet when a philandering husband suddenly buys a lavish gift for his spouse as a means of apologizing, it&#8217;s called a &#8220;<a href="http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Kobe%20Special">Kobe Special</a>.&#8221;</p>
<p>Observing how the media has treated those players and coaches over the years, has there been a reluctance to hold any of them accountable for their actions? In many cases, no. Thus, in reading and listening to the Joe Paterno tributes, I was curious how the media would address Paterno&#8217;s role in the Jerry Sandusky scandal in the context of his legacy.</p>
<p>The common refrain was that while we can&#8217;t dismiss his management of the Jerry Sandusky situation, we shouldn&#8217;t let that cloud our view of the man. If you knew someone who had a reputation of always going above and beyond for others, yet suddenly did the bare minimum and expected that to be enough, what would you think?</p>
<p>In <a href="http://www.thenation.com/blog/165792/joe-paterno-god-who-fell-earth">The Nation</a>, Dave Zirin wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;according to our conception of who this man was supposed to be, there was no authority above Joe Paterno. There was instead an expectation that this man of integrity would without hesitation do far more than just fulfill his minimum legal requirements. Is that fair? When it’s your statue on campus and when the buildings bear your name, most would say hell yes.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://es.pn/xTbZ7C">Howard Bryant</a> wrote one of many commentaries for ESPN.com on Paterno&#8217;s death. He brought forth a similar sentiment as Zirin:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;Paterno had too much power with not nearly enough oversight. He was bigger than the school, and the school cowered to him. Paterno gave millions back to Penn State; and as his power grew and grew unchecked over four decades, the university lost the ability to control whether he was benevolent or a tyrant.</p>
<p>It was not a power particularly special to Paterno, but to his industry. The entire culture of the coach deserves deconstruction and revision, for the same can be said in varying degrees of Bryant and Knight, Bowden and Calhoun, Krzyzewski and Boeheim.</p>
<p>When it was time for Paterno to use the power that he had accrued — when he became aware that for years, children allegedly were being molested under the ceiling of the football monument he had built — he did not lead.</p></blockquote>
<p>Joe Posnanski is writing a book about Joe Paterno. He did not blog about JoePa&#8217;s death, but he <a href="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1194184/index.htm">filed a piece for SI</a>. The last words of the column quote Paterno, who said that &#8220;hopes the victims find peace.&#8221; Posnanski precedes the quote by writing that Paterno wanted his life measured in totality rather than by &#8220;a hazy event involving an alleged child molester.&#8221;</p>
<p>Perhaps the most vivid piece of writing about &#8220;the hazy event&#8221; and Paterno can be found in  <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/01/22/1057341/-F**k-Joe-Paterno-%28Updated%29">this diary</a>. Warning: it&#8217;s not for the sensitive. It is heart-wrenching, explicit, and likely represents the anger of many who have sat back and thought &#8220;WTF?&#8221; regarding Paterno, Sandusky and the events of the past two months.</p>
<p>Jeff MacGregor also <a href="http://es.pn/yGNB0q">posted for ESPN.com</a>, with a take that I&#8217;m sure will be used in the Sport Studies curriculum at universities across the country. I&#8217;ve written in this space about man, myth, and legend; I did so in <a href="http://www.bronxbanterblog.com/2011/11/11/it-cant-happen-here-think-again/">my first story</a> on this topic back in November. MacGregor is much better with metaphor:</p>
<blockquote><p>Joe Paterno was no more and no less than human, and no living man can contend with his own legend. No man can live in his own shadow.</p>
<p>A bronze statue of Joe Paterno standing seven feet high and weighing 900 pounds was swung into place at Penn State on Nov. 2, 2001.</p>
<p>Four months later to the day, March 2, 2002, Mike McQueary stood at Joe Paterno&#8217;s door. He had a terrible story to tell.</p></blockquote>
<p>There&#8217;s a poignant scene in &#8220;The Deer Hunter&#8221; near the intermission when Robert De Niro&#8217;s character, Michael  is carrying Steven (John Savage), a badly injured friend, over his shoulder to safety. It is one scene among many makes the film&#8217;s title so significant; Michael is carrying Steven the same way he&#8217;d carry a deer after shooting it. Steven had become the deer carcass. Similarly, is it not reasonable to believe, based on MacGregor&#8217;s closing paragraphs, that four months after his statue was erected at Penn State, that Paterno became the statue?</p>
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<p>Paterno told Posnanski he wanted the victims to have peace. The first step could have been taken right then and there. Maybe even sooner. That, for many, is the focal point of any discussion about the late Joe Paterno&#8217;s legacy. And in the cumulative analysis of the man, the coach, the academic, the philanthropist, benefactor and humanitarian, we cannot be afraid to hold him accountable for that.</p>
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		<title>The Gift That Keeps Giving</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 14:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Alex Belth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[From a wonderful, in-depth interview with our man Schulian by Pete Croatto, who runs a...]]></description>
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<p>From a wonderful, <a href="http://www.bibliobuffet.com/the-athletic-supporter-columns-338/1680-we-write-and-take-our-chances-an-interview-with-john-schulian-012212" target="_blank">in-depth interview with our man Schulian by Pete Croatto</a>, who runs <a href="http://www.bibliobuffet.com/" target="_blank">a great site</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Yes, Ali was unspeakably cruel to Frazier in the build-up to their fights, calling him “a gorilla” and, worse, an Uncle Tom. But no one ever said Ali was perfect. He was as flawed and complicated as any other human being, with his mean streak and his public philandering and, for all I know, his snoring. He may not have been a Rhodes scholar, either, which was a point Kram hammered relentlessly. But somehow Ali always managed to find his better self when the occasion demanded it. Rising out of a business in which men are paid to destroy each other—Ali-Frazier III is a classic example—he performed acts of charity, bravery, and self-sacrifice. Some were high profile—opposing the war in Vietnam, championing black pride—while others were small personal gestures, like financing soup kitchens or building homes for poor families. Ali may have been acting on instinct instead of intellect in some cases; in others he may have seen his selfishness morph into something good. Who knows what was going on inside his head? All I can say is that I saw him do far more good than bad, and when he was done, he had become far more than a heavyweight champion. He had become a great man.</p>
<p>It seems anticlimactic to say he was great to cover, too. A writer’s dream. He was funny and irreverent and brash and, when the occasion called for it, humble and sensitive. There weren’t many people in the sports media whose names he remembered—Howard Cosell, naturally, and Dick Young and George Plimpton, whom he called “Kennedy”—and yet the media flocked to him because they knew that when he was around, something was going to happen. He might trade insults with Bundini Brown, the shaman of his entourage, or back up a prediction with a goofy poem. When he took a vow of silence before his first fight with Leon Spinks, he slapped a piece of tape across his mouth—and even then he was more interesting than anyone who was talking.</p>
<p>I could go on and on, but you get my drift. Ali was a once-in-a-lifetime subject for a sports writer, maybe for any kind of writer. I know he was that way for me, and I always prided myself in saying the story came first. But he made me care about him in a way no other athlete did. It was his charm, his courage, his audacity, his greatness in the ring. When I saw Larry Holmes destroy him in Las Vegas, it was like watching an execution. It was the worst night of my life as a sports writer, and I’m sure I’m not the only one who feels that way. I felt bad for myself, of course, because I knew I wouldn’t be writing about him for much longer. But I felt worse for Ali because of the way he’d been beaten. Even though Holmes did what he could to hold back, he had to keep fighting until Ali’s craven manager, Herbert Muhammad, told Angelo Dundee to stop it. By then Ali had been damaged in a way he will never get past. All these years later, the memory still haunts me. Maybe that’s the measure of just how special he was.</p></blockquote>
<p>[Photo Credit: <a href="http://lalettredelaphotographie.com/entries/5420/thomas-hoepker-muhammad-ali" target="_blank">Thomas Hoepker</a>]</p>
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		<title>The Virtual Reality of Joe Paterno</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 14:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Will Weiss</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Saturday, January 14, 2012, marked the publication of Joe Paterno’s first comments on the record...]]></description>
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<p>Saturday, January 14, 2012, marked the publication of Joe Paterno’s <a href="http://wapo.st/zVEDZB">first comments on the record</a> since the Jerry Sandusky scandal exploded and led to the end of his career as he, and everyone else, knew it. Sally Jenkins’ piece reads like a prologue to an obituary, with the necessary exposition to put the past two months into some sort of context.</p>
<p>Removing the descriptive language, though, reveals the quotes from both Paterno and his wife, Sue that shape Jenkins’ story. I pulled a few that I found particularly jarring:</p>
<p><strong>1) “You know, it wasn’t like it was something everybody in the building knew about. Nobody knew about it.”</strong><em><br />
— Paterno, on his insistence that he was unaware of a 1998 police investigation into the report on the boy who has come to be known as “Victim 6”.</em></p>
<p>Analysis: The same thing was said about Tiger Woods’ inner circle when questions of “how much did they know and when did they know it” came about regarding his serial philandering. <a href="http://nyti.ms/uFV5mO" target="_blank">Jo Becker’s report</a> in the New York Times from November 10 of last year provides insight into this notion. Becker spoke to several investigators who doubted Paterno’s assertion of see-no-evil, hear-no-evil, know-no-evil.</p>
<p>An excerpt from Becker’s article:</p>
<blockquote><p>“You have to understand those statements in context — there is nothing that happens at State College that Joe Paterno doesn’t know, or that Graham Spanier doesn’t know,” one person involved in the investigation said. “Whether or not a criminal case went forward, there were ample grounds for an administrative inquiry into this matter. I have no evidence that was ever done. And if indeed that report was never passed up, it makes you wonder why not.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Joe Paterno was the most notable and powerful man at Penn State. According to the anonymous investigator, he was the most powerful man in State College. In 13 years since that investigation took place, Paterno’s assertion leaves us to interpret his involvement in one of two ways: either a) he knew what happened and was responsible for organizing a broad cover-up, or b) like Pete Rose has done every day since he was banned from baseball in 1989, Paterno crafted an alternate version of the events that he believes so passionately, it has become truth. This second supposition aligns with one <a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/truth" target="_blank">definition of truth</a> listed as “conformity with fact or reality.”</p>
<p><strong>2a) “He didn&#8217;t want to get specific. And to be frank with you I don’t know that it would have done any good, because I never heard of, of, rape and a man. So I just did what I thought was best. I talked to people that I thought would be, if there was a problem, that would be following up on it.”</strong><br />
<em>— Paterno, describing Mike McQueary’s call to him after witnessing Sandusky having sex with a boy in the showers of the Penn State Football facility in 2002.</em></p>
<p><strong>2b) “I had no clue. I thought doctors looked for child abuse in a hospital, in a bruise or something.”</strong><br />
<em>— Sue Paterno, when asked if she knew anything about Sandusky’s alleged child molestation.</em></p>
<p>Analysis for 2a: Paterno’s recollection that McQueary didn’t want to be specific in his description of the actions is consistent with the original report of McQueary’s statement. Numerous reports since November, and the grand jury report, confirm that Paterno did, in fact, run it up the chain. But another quote from Paterno is particularly revealing:</p>
<p>“I didn’t know exactly how to handle it and I was afraid to do something that might jeopardize what the university procedure was. So I backed away and turned it over to some other people, people I thought would have a little more expertise than I did. It didn’t work out that way.”</p>
<p>Again, we come back to Paterno’s power. He could have easily told the administration and the Board of Trustees about the McQueary call and the accusations and said, “Do what you have to do.” He also could have cleaned house. Expertise and knowledge of male rape had nothing to do with it. Neither did procedure. Many of Paterno’s players have called him a father figure and have said he taught them how to be leaders. Do true leaders back away from a challenge or shrink in the face of adversity? That’s what Paterno did. He did not practice what he’s preached.</p>
<p>Analysis for 2b: Sue Paterno added that we will become a more aware society as a result of this. That&#8217;s a nice thought, except millions of people both inside and outside Happy Valley have been aware of child abuse for years. When similar salacious charges ravaged the Catholic Church several years ago — this was international news — awareness heightened to the nth degree. Sue Paterno’s statement does not reflect well on the cultural awareness and intellectual faculties of either her or her husband, despite their ability to recant the Classics or demonstrate their love of opera, as Jenkins noted.</p>
<p><strong>3) “Right now I’m trying to figure out what I’m gonna do, &#8217;cause I don’t want to sit around on my backside all day. If I’m gonna do that I’ll be a newspaper reporter.”</strong><br />
<em>— Paterno on his current state of affairs.</em></p>
<p>Analysis: Before saying, &#8220;If I&#8217;m gonna do that I&#8217;ll be a newspaper reporter,&#8221; Jenkins observed that Paterno grinned and smiled; an obvious attempt to try to rankle the veteran reporter. Paterno should know, though, that the enterprising work of reporters not sitting on their backsides and exposing his role in this mess are part of the reason he is out as Penn State&#8217;s head football coach and is no longer a tenured professor there. One reporter in particular, Sara Ganim, could very well win a Pulitzer for her work on this story. Paterno demonstrated in both nonverbal and verbal terms why he kept Happy Valley in such a hyper-controlled bubble. He hated reporters.</p>
<p>None of Paterno&#8217;s comments should come as a shock. There is no new information. From this interview, it&#8217;s clear Paterno believes that we are naive enough to think his story is the truth. Should we believe he was naive enough to have never heard of male rape or child molestation? Paterno may believe we as the public, are that stupid. What if, based on everything that has come out since November, we believed the same of him?</p>
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		<title>14,000 Shots to the Dome</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 19:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Alex Belth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dig Richard Sandomir&#8217;s piece on Mr. Met in the New York Times today. Mr. Met...]]></description>
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<p>Dig <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/06/sports/baseball/ever-the-optimist-mr-met-keeps-his-head-up.html?pagewanted=1&amp;_r=1&amp;hpw" target="_blank">Richard Sandomir&#8217;s piece on Mr. Met in the New York Times today</a>.</p>
<p>Mr. Met has always given me the willies.</p>
<p>While you are at it, dig <a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=13856" target="_blank">Larry Granillo&#8217;s Handy Dandy Mascot Guide over at Baseball Prospectus</a>.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 14:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Alex Belth</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last year I wrote <a href="http://deadspin.com/5863743/the-two+fisted-one+eyed-misadventures-of-sportswritings-last-badass" target="_blank">a profile for Deadspin on the late George Kimball</a>. It began as an interview for this site, conducted via e-mail, ostensibly to promote <a href="http://www.amazon.com/At-Fights-American-Writers-Boxing/dp/1598530925" target="_blank">&#8220;At the Fights,&#8221; a boxing compilation George co-edited with John Schulian</a>. Once I learned about what a fascinating life George had led, I decided to write a longer piece instead. However, I had five months worth of e-mail exchanges on my hand, George musing about his childhood and his career.  I&#8217;ve compiled them here, and while the following in no way presents a complete portrait of his life, I think you will enjoy a little more Kimball.</p>
<p><strong>Bronx Banter: Your father was a career military man and you grew up all over the world. Did you follow boxing at all as a kid?</strong></p>
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<p><strong>George Kimball:</strong> Aha, so this is going to be one of those psychological-minded interviews. My wife Marge would like that. She&#8217;s a shrink and says I&#8217;m the least psychological-minded person she knows. Sure, I watched the fights on TV with my father (and with his father) from the mid 50s on. It was a revelation to me at the live readings we did on each coast last year for The Fighter Still Remains to learn how just many of the people involved in that book had initially come to boxing the same way, as a sort of connection to their fathers at a time when there might not have been much else that did connect them.</p>
<p>Beginning in late &#8217;57, which is when we moved to Germany, I followed boxing quite avidly in the papers, or really, paper. (There was an English-language weekly called The Overseas Family that covered our high school games but not much on a global scale.) Stars and Stripes, on the other hand, was a daily that carried pretty extensive coverage of both the important professional bouts (Robinson&#8217;s and Patterson&#8217;s in particular) as well as the military ones that took place in Europe, which were considered a pretty big deal, particularly as we edged toward the &#8217;60 Olympics, which were going to be in Rome. So I&#8217;d have certainly known who all the professional champions and most of the contenders were, as well as the top Europeans (like Laszlo Papp, for instance). I don&#8217;t recall that we attended any of the bouts on the bases where we were (my father was stationed at Bamberg and Bayreuth, and I went away to the American school in Nurnberg), none of which harbored any of the really promising service amateurs, but I monitored the progress of &#8220;our&#8221; boxers – the Army guys stationed elsewhere in Europe – as they all fell by the wayside on the road to Rome with one notable exception, Sgt. Eddie Crook, who wound up being one of three U.S. boxing gold medalists in Rome. (Cassius Clay and Skeeter McClure were the others.) I liked Clay even then, since he was from Louisville, my mother&#8217;s hometown.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know that I regarded it as crushing at the time, but the Rome Olympics actually coincided with our move back to the states. I watched a lot of the Games at the home of one grandparent or another as we spent a few weeks visiting both after having been out of the country for three years. I don&#8217;t know that I&#8217;d have been able to attend had we stayed in Europe even a few weeks longer, but I had gone to Rome the previous summer, so it wouldn&#8217;t have been out of the question.</p>
<p>I played football and basketball at Nurnberg, and ran track in the spring. Summers I played in an AYA baseball league made up of towns that had bases. The football away games were same-day trips, but in basketball every other weekend there&#8217;d be a road trip – like you&#8217;d play a game in Munich or Heidelberg on Friday night, stay overnight, and then play in Augsburg or Mannheim on Saturday afternoon and bus back to Nurnberg on Saturday night.</p>
<p>The Army also had a really top-flight league of post teams that played a regular schedule, mostly, I think, on Sunday afternoons. The teams were open to everybody stationed there, so what you wound up with at a relatively large post like Bamberg was virtually a college all-star team. Everybody used to turn out to watch the home games, and I watched a lot of those on weekends when I went home. (They even used to broadcast a game of the week on AFN.) Eddie Crook, by the way, was the quarterback for the Berlin team, which was all the more unusual because most of the guys in his huddle would have been officers. He was the first black quarterback I&#8217;d ever seen, at any level.</p>
<p><strong>BB: What was it like following sports when you moved around so much?</strong></p>
<p><strong>GK:</strong> My father followed the NFL avidly, or at least he did after we came back to the states in 1960 when there was football on television every Sunday no matter where you lived. We were in San Antonio my senior year, and also got the AFL games on TV. My old man had played both football and baseball at UMass (when it was still Mass State) and followed both sports. I remember sitting up with a couple of my classmates in the dorm in Nurnberg, charting the Colts-Giants overtime game off the radio broadcast. That was pretty exciting even on the radio, believe it or not.</p>
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<p>Even moving around, you maintained your allegiances. I was a Red Sox and Cardinals fan and religiously followed both teams, even though in some cases the news and box scores were two days old.</p>
<p>That year in San Antonio I was working for nights 75 cents an hour, first sacking groceries and then, once I got my license, delivering prescriptions for a pharmacy, and without telling anyone saved up enough to buy two tickets to the first AFL championship game in Houston. Once the tickets came in the mail I still had a problem, because Houston was three hours away and I needed the family car to drive there with my date. When I finally worked up the nerve to ask my father his solution was that sure, I could borrow his car – as long as he got to use the other ticket. So I ended up at Jeppesen Stadium in Houston watching that game with my father.</p>
<p><strong>BB: Were you tight with your siblings?</strong></p>
<p><strong>GK:</strong> Probably less so than would have been the case with an average family, simply because of the circumstances in which I grew up. My brother Tim, who is just a year and a half younger, only spent one year at Nurnberg when I was going there, and apart from my senior year in Texas I really didn&#8217;t live year-round with my family after my freshman year in high school. I was quite a bit older – six years older than the next-closest sibling – and my youngest brother wasn&#8217;t even born until I was in my second year of college. The age gap tends to shrink with the passage of time, so I&#8217;m probably more in contact with, and closer to, most of them now than I was when we were growing up.</p>
<p><strong>BB: Did you read any sports writers as a kid?</strong></p>
<p><strong>GK:</strong> I think one of the early sportswriters I read avidly must have been Earl Ruby, of the <em>Louisville Courier Journal</em>. I also came across a collection of Furman Bisher&#8217;s pretty early on. I was reading constantly, absolutely haunted the library, but probably didn&#8217;t read a hell of a lot of sports books per se, and wasn&#8217;t much exposed to the great ones unless they were already dead and collected, like maybe Grantland Rice or Ring Lardner. I couldn&#8217;t have been more than ten or eleven when I read a collection of Irvin S. Cobb that my mother owned. But I don&#8217;t think I even began to form an idea that great sports writing could also be great writing until I started to pay attention to <em>Sports Illustrated</em>, which would have been the fall of 1960. I don&#8217;t know that we ever saw <em>SI</em> in Germany.</p>
<p><strong>BB: Sounds like sports played an important part of your childhood. What about the arts? Was their music in your house as a kid? Movies, radio? What about books?</strong></p>
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<p><strong>GK:</strong> That was always pretty important to me. When we were in Bayreuth I used to go to the Wagner festival with my mother because my father hated opera. I think my parents liked musicals even as much as I did, so that was there from an early age. I played the trumpet for a while and liked a lot of jazz. My parents had some jazz records, but I was the one, at probably age 15, who brought Charlie Parker into the house, and who introduced them to Miles Davis, Gerry Mulligan, and Chet Baker. Of course I listened to early rock, as did my contemporaries. Everybody listened to that, but only a few of my contemporaries were as into jazz as I was, and the number that listened to Broadway musical scores was even smaller, so when I listened to Rogers and Hammerstein or Mario Lanza, a lot of times it was alone in my room. Didn&#8217;t listen to much radio at all, that I can remember, apart from in the car.</p>
<p>I pretty much lived in the library, even in Germany. I&#8217;d even take dates there. No matter what else I was doing I was probably reading at least a couple of books a week for almost as long as I can remember. Movies were important during the years I lived in Germany. The new films would eventually get there, so we didn&#8217;t feel cheated that they&#8217;d been out for a few months in the states, and I can&#8217;t remember whether they cost 15 cents or a quarter, but they were certainly affordable. We had one night a week in Nurnberg where you could sign out for an early film, and then on weekends I&#8217;d usually see one too.</p>
<p><strong>BB: I know you are a fan of musicals. I think K<em>iss Me, Kate</em> was the first long-playing record my dad ever bought—he was six or seven years older than you.</strong></p>
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<p><strong>GK:</strong> I first saw <em>Kiss Me, Kate</em> performed at Garmisch-Partenkirchen, in the Alps, in 1959. Went with my mother because my father didn&#8217;t want to go. I think we had all of the early Rogers and Hammerstein cast recordings at the house when I was growing up – <em>Carousel</em>, <em>Oklahoma</em>, <em>South Pacific</em> and <em>The King and I</em>, and I eventually saw all of those done in New York, in London, in regional theatre, what have you. Even saw <em>Kiss Me, Kate</em> on Broadway about ten years ago. I think the Rogers and Hammerstein led me back to their earlier collaborators like Lorenz Hart and Jerome Kern and their spiritual descendants like Lerner and Loewe, or Frank Loesser. I think there was a definable Golden Age that began in the late ‘20s with <em>Show Boat</em> and ended probably fifty years ago which was marked by a greatness that&#8217;s never been achieved since, which is why I enjoy the revivals more than most new musicals. I saw the Lincoln Center <em>South Pacific</em> nine times in three years, I think (and a few weeks ago I took Danny Burstein to DiBella&#8217;s boxing card at B.B. King’s.). At their best there were others in this era like Cole Porter and Irving Berlin who could be great but I thought both inconsistent. Annie Get Your Gun, for instance, is brilliant (despite a notably dumb book), and right up there with the best of Rogers and Hammerstein, but Berlin wrote some shows I wouldn&#8217;t want to even sit through. I think the symbiosis of great lyricists and composers is what defined these. I love West Side Story, for instance, but never warmed to some of Bernstein&#8217;s film scores, and I think Sondheim did his best work on that one when he was a lyricist, period. I like some of his stuff, and hope to go see Danny and Bernadette Peters do Follies at the Kennedy Center in May, but I don&#8217;t see Sondheim as an heir to the tradition.</p>
<p><strong>BB: What about Gilbert and Sullivan?</strong></p>
<p><strong>GK:</strong> Gilbert and Sullivan is an acquired taste I guess I never acquired. It&#8217;s cute, but I don&#8217;t think especially good musically, and it makes you work to get the lyrics, which isn’t the way it&#8217;s supposed to be. I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve ever walked around with a Gilbert and Sullivan song in my head, for instance, but with some of these other classics, especially Rogers and Hammerstein, it happens all the time. Some of the movie recordings of Rogers and Hammerstein were quite good even if the movies themselves weren&#8217;t. John Raitt was the original Billy in <em>Carousel</em>, around the time I was born, and I met him years later when I had dinner with him and Bonnie.</p>
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<p><strong>BB: You would have been a teenager when Lenny Bruce and Mort Sahl and Nichols and May were hitting the scene. Did you follow any comedians?</strong></p>
<p><strong>GK:</strong> Comedy? Being in Germany from 1957-1960 was like a time warp in that respect. The PX didn&#8217;t stock Lenny Bruce or even Mort Sahl, so for my friends and me they might as well not have existed. Nichols and May I read about in <em>Time</em> magazine, I think, but never heard them till I came back to the states. Hell, I think it was 1962 or 63 before I ever heard Lord Buckley. If I listened to any comedy at all overseas I think it was Stan Freberg or Victor Borge, and Newhart came along about ‘60, I think. I probably read Sahl before I ever heard him, and was way late in coming to Lenny Bruce.</p>
<p><strong>BB: At what time did you find yourself starting to rebel against your father, and right-wing politics in general?</strong></p>
<p><strong>GK:</strong> I&#8217;d say the first conflicts that were plainly philosophical and political (as opposed to just generational) came my freshman year in college at Kansas. Almost from the moment I got to KU I was hanging with the &#8220;beatniks,&#8221; the painters and poets and musicians and actors, even though I was a clean-cut ROTC Midshipman who had to wear my uniform to class a couple of days a week. I liked Lawrence but intensely disliked the discipline and even the curriculum. (I had a few electives but was required to take physics and calculus, both of which I absolutely hated and still don&#8217;t understand the first thing about.) So the battle lines were first probably drawn even then. Before the year was out I&#8217;d dropped out of school (and ROTC) and wound up back in Massachusetts, living on my own and working at an amusement park in Hull; my grandparents lived in the adjacent town.</p>
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<p>What remained of getting an education was pretty much up to me from then on. My father&#8217;s thinking was that since I&#8217;d been the one who fucked up the free ride, I was on my own, and he followed pretty much the same guidelines with all my brothers and sisters if they dropped out or changed curriculums or whatever, and surprisingly, most of them did. My brother Tim quit the University of Louisville and joined the Army; my sister Jennifer had a full ride at Hollins, but after her junior year at the Sorbonne decided to stay on in Paris, and I think my two youngest brothers both wound up on academic probation at Alabama, which really takes some doing. Even my sister Becky blew up at band scholarship at the University of Kentucky when she switched from music to a journalism major. With me as with them he&#8217;d have still been willing to help out with college if I&#8217;d been willing to live at home and commute. That of course was unthinkable to me, though a few of the others did that after frittering away their scholarships; the closest I came was that one summer, when my father was in Laos, I stayed at their house and took classes at St. Mary&#8217;s while driving a taxi in Leavenworth on the night shift; in one of the high points of my academic career I wound up getting an A in a &#8216;Philosophy of Communism&#8217; course taught by a Sister of Charity with whom I had verbally jousted every single day that summer.</p>
<p>By then there were lots of times when my father and I barely spoke, but I distinctly remember at the end of spring break 1963, the night before I was taking off again, leaving at the crack of dawn to thumb back to Boston and Massachusetts Bay Community College, which he considered a total waste of time on my part – he was probably right, but it was one of the few places where I could afford the tuition and still keep 1,500 miles between me and my parents – we watched the fatal Emile Griffith-Benny Paret fight together.</p>
<p><strong>BB: Tell me about going to school at KU with Gayle Sayers and Bill James. Did you know either of them at all?</strong></p>
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<p><strong>GK:</strong> The first time I saw Sayers touch a football I knew that if what he was playing was football, I&#8217;d been playing a game that should have had a different name. He was that much better than not just me, but everybody else, too. As freshmen we lived on the same floor in the same dorm, but he was pretty distant and intimidating, so there wasn&#8217;t a lot of conversation between us even when we&#8217;d find ourselves watching TV together. (Somebody once warned me that he didn&#8217;t like white people, and another guy corrected him and said, &#8220;He doesn&#8217;t like ANYBODY.&#8221;) It was years later that we talked about this and he said that his attitude at that time had really been a defense mechanism, because he was afraid he didn&#8217;t belong in college at all and was basically terrified by his circumstances.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t actually meet Bill James until much later, I think in the very early ‘80s, just after I&#8217;d started at the Herald, at Fenway Park. Glenn Stout brought Bill to Opening Day, and knew I&#8217;d be sitting in the bleachers as I always did on Opening Day back then, so it was really Glenn who introduced us. Bill told me on that occasion that he had voted for me when I ran for sheriff in 1970. Of course if everyone who&#8217;s told me that in the years since actually had voted for me, I&#8217;d have won the fucking election. It&#8217;s really too bad that Bill and Susan moved to Boston at pretty much exactly the same time I moved to New York, because I&#8217;d liked to have seen more of them. As it is, we cross paths occasionally in Lawrence now but even then only rarely.</p>
<p><strong>BB: Did growing up in a military family fuel your rebellious nature? And even when you weren&#8217;t on speaking terms with your father did you seek his approval?</strong></p>
<p><strong>GK:</strong> I don&#8217;t know that it fueled any rebellious nature, though it obviously ended up that way on my part, as it did with some of the guys I&#8217;d gone to school with. But an amazing preponderance of my classmates ended up in the military themselves, or married career soldiers, and a lot of those that didn&#8217;t wound up Republicans, so I don&#8217;t think I was part of any identifiable trend. Best way I can answer that was that however strained everything else got, sports was always a common ground, and we could always get through a football game without an argument.</p>
<p><strong>BB: How did you lose your eye?</strong></p>
<p><strong>GK:</strong> Short answer is that I was the runner-up in a dispute with a guy who broke a quart beer bottle over my face at a party on Beacon Hill in early ‘64. (He thought I was laughing at him; I wasn&#8217;t) He was a pretty paranoid black guy. I&#8217;d just walked back from the liquor store with a case of beer when his girlfriend introduced us, and when I then shouted across the room to a friend asking for a church key he grabbed me and said &#8220;Hey man, you going for a blade?&#8221; I thought he was kidding and kind of shook my arm free and started to walk away. He hit me full-force from behind, cut up my face but more importantly the eye just exploded.</p>
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<p><strong>BB: And so when did you meet Hunter S. Thompson?</strong></p>
<p><strong>GK:</strong> Met Hunter in ‘67 or ‘68 in New York. I was working for his agent at the time Hell’s Angels book was published, and subletting my apartment from Paul Blackburn, whose wife Sara had been the editor who brought Hunter to Random House.</p>
<p><strong>BB: And you got a piece in the <em>Paris Review</em>, right?</strong></p>
<p><strong>GK:</strong> My <em>Paris Review</em> publication was poetry, as was most of what I published in various little magazines beginning about 1965. I was pretty much a fixture around the St. Mark’s poetry project back then, and half the poets in the country must have lived within a few blocks of me when I lived first on Avenue C and then on East 7th Street, next door to McSorley&#8217;s. I did do a book review (of Ishmael Reed&#8217;s <em>The Freelance Pallbearers</em> for a soft-core mag called <em>Escapade</em>, one of several <em>Playboy</em> knockoffs that were going at the time. (Ishmael claimed that I&#8217;d been the only white reviewer who understood his book.) These mags were supporting quite a few people back then – Baldwin covered the Liston-Patterson fight for <em>Nugget</em>, for instance.</p>
<p><strong>BB: Who were you reading in those days? Was Terry Southern an influence at all?</strong></p>
<p><strong>GK:</strong> There were a lot of people besides poets hanging around the St. Mark’s scene then—folk singers, painters, etc. were also plentiful, and Terry Southern was one of them. I think when I first met him I&#8217;d read only Candy (which Girodias re-issued, along with Donleavy&#8217;s <em>The Ginger Man</em>, when he set up shop in New York; those books had exactly the same cover as <em>Only Skin Deep</em>, so I always made sure bookshops in places like Iowa City ordered all three titles. Not quite by coincidence Hamill and I are going to the Tibor de Nagy gallery today to see this poets and painters show from that era, and I imagine I&#8217;ll see a lot of collaborations between friends of mine from the ’60s.</p>
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<p>I was still reading anything and everything, but during the decade of the ’60s read pretty much everything Kerouac, Donleavy, Baldwin, etc. had written. But I also managed to read Liebling, Budd Schulberg, et al too. I read most of Mailer but wasn&#8217;t bowled over even by his best – and I was working for his agent from late ’66 to ’68. And of course even when I was spending my nights at poetry readings and gatherings I was reading the New York sports pages religiously. By ’68 or so I&#8217;d met Larry Merchant and Vic Ziegel and Lenny Shecter at the Lions Head, and about the same time became friends with Hamill and Joe Flaherty. Only Skin Deep, which was published in September of ’68, mentions Merchant and Jim Carroll&#8217;s <em>Basketball Diaries</em>, which made it pretty unique in the world of international porn. The publication party was at the Lions Head the night before I left for Iowa, and when Andy Warhol showed up it was the first time he&#8217;d gone out in public since he got shot by Valerie Solanis earlier in the year.</p>
<p><strong>BB: I ate dinner with Vic once before he passed away and he told me about worshipping at the altar of Lenny Shecter, who is tragically overlooked these days. I think Shecter&#8217;s hard cynicism is close to some of the Deadspin sensibility. Do you think he would have eventually quit writing about sports altogether if he had stayed alive? His collection The Jocks showed that he had much contempt for big time sports.</strong></p>
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<p><strong>GK:</strong> Odd thing about Lenny was that for all the humor he evinced in his writing he really didn&#8217;t have a great sense of humor, or at least didn&#8217;t really seem to enjoy himself the way his acolytes like Vic and Larry did. Lenny was, of course, the original “chipmunk,&#8221; but while it was easy to picture Larry and Vic and Stan Isaacs as “chipmunks,&#8221; the term seemed misapplied when applied to Lenny. I think you&#8217;re right that he was really sick and tired of sports, and given the financial cushion that came with Ball Four he probably would have completely moved on. But he could be almost nasty when he thought he was right and you were wrong. I remember being in New York and at the head a week or so after I&#8217;d gone up to see Jim Bouton, who was plotting some sort of comeback, pitch a few innings, I think it was, in a minor league game out in Pittsfield, and I&#8217;d described the way some 20 year-old hitter had almost gone into contortions over a knuckler. Lenny says, &#8220;Couldn&#8217;t have happened. Jim told me he only threw smoke that day,&#8221; and I say, &#8220;Lenny, I was there. He didn&#8217;t throw a lot of them, but he threw one to that batter.&#8221; &#8220;Maybe it was just a change-up you saw,&#8221; he says. I finally said &#8220;Lenny, give me a little credit here. I know a fucking knuckleball when I see one.&#8221; Really odd because he always had to get the last word in, and this time wanted to argue something I&#8217;d seen and he hadn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Another night I was in the head with Leigh Montville and this doll about 25 appears at the bar. Leigh wants to know what her story was and I told him. &#8220;She&#8217;s a sportswriter groupie.&#8221; He of course refuses to believe that there is such a thing, let alone one this good looking. He finally tries to strike up a conversation and she says, &#8220;Have you guys seen Lenny Shecter? I&#8217;m supposed to meet him here tonight.&#8221; Lenny was twice her age and didn&#8217;t exactly have movie star looks, so Montville was really impressed that he had groupies.</p>
<p><strong>BB: Did you guys all admire Jimmy Breslin?</strong></p>
<p><strong>GK:</strong> Sure, everybody admired Breslin. I&#8217;d read him religiously long before I met him. He wasn&#8217;t around the bar a lot but his column was a topic of conversation almost any day it ran.</p>
<p><strong>BB: Did most of the Lion&#8217;s Head guys stick to booze or did they smoke a lot of weed and take harder drugs too?</strong></p>
<p><strong>GK:</strong> Most were strictly drinkers, a few guys smoked weed but more at parties or at home. The most obvious exception was Wes Joice, the owner. Even back in the ‘60s it was a running joke that he was perpetually stoned the way some drunks never sober up. Pretty much as soon as he finished his first cup of coffee he&#8217;d go down to the office to smoke a joint. He often invited me down, but got so I rarely went because the shit he was smoking was so powerful it would leave me catatonic.</p>
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<p>By the ‘80s Wes, along with most of the American and National Leagues, had graduated to coke. Now I usually would accept if he invited me down to the inner sanctum. One night Bob Arum was with me when he did and Bob did one of those numbers straight out of <em>Annie Hall</em>, not knowing what he was doing, exhaled when he should have inhaled and blew a couple hundred dollars worth of cocaine all over the office. Sometimes this would be decent stuff, more often not. There was a dealer (later immortalized as &#8220;the Weasel&#8221; in Kinky Friedman&#8217;s Greenwich Killing Time), you could have set your watch by. Six o&#8217;clock every evening, rain or shine, he&#8217;d walk down the steps, and for a couple of hours he&#8217;d conduct a lively business out of the men&#8217;s room at the Lions Head. It got so sometimes you&#8217;d walk in to take a piss and on right top of the toilet paper dispenser there&#8217;d be a couple of lines just sitting there that somebody had laid out and then been so fucked up that they forgot to snort it. His shit was quite mediocre and the standard line was that if John Belushi had only known the Weasel he&#8217;d have been alive today.</p>
<p><strong>BB: How big of a deal was <em>Harpers</em> magazine during those years, the Willie Morris time? And were guys like David Halberstam and Gay Talese widely admired in your downtown scene?</strong></p>
<p><strong>GK:</strong> <em>Harpers</em> was a bigger deal in some circles that I was really more on the fringe of, like George Plimpton&#8217;s, but not so much among the people I hung out with regularly. I don&#8217;t know that it&#8217;s accurate, but my impression was always that Willie Morris seemed to think of himself as much more important and influential, or maybe just relevant, than he and it actually were, at least to most people I&#8217;d have hung out with. I don&#8217;t even mean that disparagingly; it&#8217;s just that <em>Harpers</em> rarely even crossed my mind and I couldn&#8217;t imagine that there were actually people who spent much time thinking about its place in the literary firmament.</p>
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<p>I had lunch with Hamill today after we toured the poets and painters show at the Tibor de Nagy. The curator came out and introduced himself and gave us each a hardbound catalogue ($40) when we left. I was mainly trying to get some stuff for the profile for the Boxing Writers Dinner program but as usual Pete had all kinds of mots to offer. Not sure you can use this in your Cannon project but Pete recalled that Cannon said of James Baldwin&#8217;s status as a double-minority something along the lines of &#8220;the poor guy wants to ride in the front of the bus&#8211;and do it wearing a dress!&#8221;</p>
<p>And some great Mailer stories: Apparently Mailer and Bruce Jay Friedman came to blows at a party in Brooklyn that wound up on the sidewalk below, and Friedman kicked the shit out of Norman by the time their friends moved in to stop it. Friedman, who apparently didn&#8217;t want to be responsible for diminishing the future of American letters: &#8220;I was doing everything I could to keep from hitting him in the head!&#8221;</p>
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<p>Pete also remembered covering the Democratic convention in ‘64 when his wife went into labor. Pete didn&#8217;t have a car and didn&#8217;t even drive then, but Mailer drove him from Atlantic City to St. Vincent’s for the birth of his first daughter. &#8220;People remember all the crazy shit Mailer did but rarely mention kindnesses like that.&#8221; When Norman was drinking said Pete you always knew that danger was right around the corner when he started talking in a faux Texas accent.</p>
<p>He also told me about this building Mailer purchased in upper Manhattan, maybe Inwood or someplace, as both an abode and as an investment. Over the years every time he&#8217;d get divorced he&#8217;d have to sell off two floors of the building, one to pay the divorce lawyer and another to pay the ex. Eventually he owned only the top floor. The one he lived in.</p>
<p>Never knew Talese back then. At Super Bowl VII I was in LA for the Phoenix and since we were really pinching pennies I was staying with Bill and Susan Cardoso in Hollywood, I think it was. Hunter Thompson was there and had a room at the press hotel but also spent a lot of time out at the house. Apparently a few months earlier Talese had been out there doing his initial research for what eventually must have become <em>Thy Neighbor&#8217;s Wife</em> and each evening would come back to Cardoso&#8217;s with a detailed report of how many blowjobs he&#8217;d gotten that day in the name of research.</p>
<p><strong>BB: My old man was a big drinker but not much of a village guy. He knew Elaine Kaufman when she managed a place in the village and then was a regular during her early years on the Upper East Side. But then he got a job at ABC and mostly drank at Herb Evans until The Ginger Man became his favorite spot. Did you ever go uptown?</strong></p>
<p><strong>GK:</strong> I didn&#8217;t spend much time in Elaine&#8217;s and when I went there it was usually with Pete. I remember going over there after a day game at Yankee Stadium in late ‘79, with this ravishing young thing I&#8217;d imported from Newport, Pete (who was driving, the first time I&#8217;d ever known him to do that) and Jose Torres and his son. They ushered us straight to a table adjacent to Woody Allen&#8217;s. Pete has a great story about the decline of Elaine&#8217;s, which he traces to this crash diet and sentence to a fat farm Elaine undertook sometime in the early &#8217;80s. Up until then she&#8217;d personally tasted everything the place served, but her diet guru forbade that, so when the chefs started cutting corners and getting sloppy there was nobody to notice, and eventually the food got so bad people stopped going there, or at least stopped eating there, altogether. Elaine eventually started tasting (and got fat) again but it never fully recovered.</p>
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<p>I never hung out a lot at the O&#8217;Neal/O&#8217;Connor bars in NY, but there was one Super Bowl out in LA—maybe the Redskins-Dolphins game—where the Ginger Man in Beverly Hills was sportswriter central, and we were all in there pretty much every night. I&#8217;d run into people from Boston and New York I hadn&#8217;t seen in ages who were now fully realized Californians. I was in O&#8217;Neal&#8217;s at Lincoln Center quite a few times in its last couple of years. Including with most of the other speakers (e.g. Quincy Troupe, Ben Stiller, and Jo Loesser) after Budd Schulberg&#8217;s Memorial service, and after a South Pacific performance just a few nights before it closed for good.</p>
<p><strong>BB: Was Frederick Exley a regular at the Head?</strong></p>
<p><strong>GK:</strong> The thing about Exley was that the guy I knew and drank with in bars, chiefly the Lion’s Head, was almost irreconcilable with the guy who could write something as touching as A Fan&#8217;s Notes. I&#8217;d come back to New York and Fred had taken up residence at the Head in my absence; I believe David Markson was the original conduit but especially Flaherty and Jeanine were talking him up big time. I&#8217;d drunk with him for probably several weeks before I finally got around to reading the book. I was knocked out, not just by how good it was but was stunned to realize that Fred could have written it.</p>
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<p>You also ought to try to chase down &#8220;The Last Great Saloon,&#8221; a piece Fred wrote for <em>GQ</em> about the Lion’s Head in December of either ’91 or ’92.</p>
<p><strong>BB: That was a good one, but how much of it was true?</strong></p>
<p><strong>GK:</strong> Fred&#8217;s description of me with great danes and bullwhips was a product of his imagination and had nothing to do with my book, Only Skin Deep. Fred was a terrific novelist but had his shortcomings as a reporter. I&#8217;m surprised that GQ didn&#8217;t have a fact-checker, or at least run some of that stuff by me.</p>
<p><strong>BB: I also read Joe Flaherty’s piece on you for the Village Voice around the time you ran for sheriff. Did you really take your glass eye out and leave it people’s drinks?</strong></p>
<p><strong>GK:</strong> In my younger days I did get some mileage out of that. I did some pretty outrageous stuff, but obviously Joe embellished somewhat—though not as much as Fred, who created tales out of whole cloth.</p>
<p><strong>BB: Did you really call Mayor Lindsay a tight-assed WASP and bless his forehead with ashes from an ashtray?</strong></p>
<p><strong>GK:</strong> Evidently.</p>
<p><strong>BB: Do you think the tendency is to print the legend instead of the truth?</strong></p>
<p><strong>GK:</strong> Partly, but that would be speculation. There was a lot of that around the Lion’s Head in the late ‘60s, Fred and David Markson and others, and I&#8217;d include myself in that category, who did a lot more sitting around the bar talking about writing than actual writing (this would be the ‘69 and ‘70 interludes when I was in New York after Iowa and then in early ‘70 before I went back to Lawrence).</p>
<p><strong>BB: Why did you leave New York?</strong></p>
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<p><strong>GK:</strong> Combination of a lot of things. My marriage had ended, and while it was a pretty eventful and enjoyable summer, I could sense that things were winding down for me in NYC and that nothing really promising loomed on the horizon. Paul Blackburn, from whom I’d sublet the apartment on East 7th St., was returning from his Guggenheim in September, and I’d have had to find new digs anyway. Ted Berrigan, one of my friends in New York, was headed out to Iowa to teach, as was Anselm Hollo, who had come over from England and hung out with me for a time that summer, was too. After a decidedly undistinguished academic career Iowa seemed to offer a fast track to Master’s Degree, no heavy lifting, so I decided to make a clean break. Got a driveway car, a new VW an army officer returning from Germany had shipped over (big savings on duty); I was supposed pick it up in Brooklyn and take it to him in Omaha. Loaded all my stuff into a U-Haul trailer with a hitch, put the dog (and a cat, a last-minute acquisition from McSorleys, where they said they were going to drown it if nobody had taken it by last call), and lit out for Iowa City. Dropped my stuff there and then proceeded to Nebraska to face the music – the weight of the trailer hitch had ripped open a pretty conspicuous gash in the rear bumper, which the Captain didn’t much appreciate at all, but there wasn’t a lot he could do about it.</p>
<p><strong>BB: Did you have any concrete notion that you wanted to be a writer yet?</strong></p>
<p><strong>GK:</strong> I was scuffling to sell some freelance work, most notably my DB, Only Skin Deep, which was one of the first Girodias bought when he fled Paris and set up here. Even though I was short a bachelor&#8217;s degree they got me conditionally accepted and even the promise of funding at the Workshop, where I was one of the few actually doing both fiction and poetry. Most people had to pick one or the other. I shared a house with Hollo, and Berrigan taught my poetry section. Bob Bolles was my fiction teacher, and I think he was almost intimidated by some of the talent in that room – not just me but Tom McHale and Asa Baber and Eddie Gubar. Robert Coover was my thesis adviser, but we didn’t really see eye to eye so I didn&#8217;t consult him a lot. I always knew I would earn my living writing something. And while I&#8217;d written sports for newspapers before I wrote anything else, the idea that I&#8217;d do it for 35 years had yet to occur to me then.</p>
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<p><strong>BB: You then had a memorable summer running for sheriff in Lawrence, Kansas. What inspired that?</strong></p>
<p><strong>GK:</strong> The original plan was that it would provide a format for guerrilla-type street theatre that would last through the summer (my platform included subsidies for marijuana farmers etc.). Although Hunter Thompson ran for sheriff in Aspen and Stew Albert in Oakland, none of us had discussed it with the others beforehand and none knew the others were even going to run, although I did later visit Hunter for a ‘summit’ conference in Aspen after I’d won the primary. The only ones I discussed the sheriff campaign with before returning to Lawrence from New York in the spring of 1970 were Ed Sanders and Jerry Rubin, both of whom encouraged it.</p>
<p>In Lawrence I had announced I was running under the Youth International Party banner, so it didn’t make a lot of waves. The incumbent Republican sheriff, who had arrested me at an antiwar demonstration in 1965, routinely ran unopposed. I waited until 30 minutes before the filing deadline and then walked into the courthouse, paid a $100 filing fee to run as a Democrat. I knew if I gave them an hour they’d have found somebody to run against me. I was consequently unopposed on the primary ballot and won the Democratic nomination, much to the chagrin of the Democratic Party. At a rally at the state house a few days before the election I wound up in conversation with the governor and someone took a picture of us together. This was after the state party leadership had publicly denounced me. We printed the picture up in hundreds of flyers with the headline “Vote Democratic on Nov. (whatever the date was) Docking for Governor/Kimball for Sheriff.”</p>
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<p>In practice things got quite ugly that summer – cops killed two kids, one black and one white, and it turned into open warfare for a while. Because of my visibility I became the go-to guy as a spokesman, and got blamed for everything that happed, much of which I knew nothing about and still don’t. There are some more detailed accounts, as in Rusty Mulholland’s book, available, including online. <em>The Lawrence Journal World</em> and <em>University Daily Kansan</em> both ran lengthy recaps of the summer of ’70 last year, the 40th anniversary.</p>
<p><strong>BB: How did you parents handle the news of your numerous arrests?</strong></p>
<p><strong>GK:</strong> My mother still dislikes any mention the arrests; I don&#8217;t think she likes having to explain that to her redneck friends. Last time it came up I seem to recall her going into complete denial about it, in fact. The one in Lawrence in ‘65 she actually came from Colorado and was involved in the negotiation with my lawyer. The judge had originally sentenced me to six months, I guess to teach me a lesson, and let me sweat it out for a couple of days before he paroled me in my father&#8217;s custody. (He was a reserve JAG colonel himself and knew my old man.) That&#8217;s how I wound up spending that winter in Colorado Springs. Ran the ski lift at the Broadmoor until the snow melted and then worked in the hotel PR department for a month or two before my tolerance (and theirs) became exhausted. Finally bolted under the cover of darkness one night in a ‘54 Ford I&#8217;d bought from Peggy Fleming&#8217;s father, drove to Lawrence and then New York.</p>
<p>Anyway, the point being that because that was the only one she was personally involved in, my mother has over the years persuaded herself that it must have been the only arrest. There were actually a few others, including one in Wichita in 1970 that was on the front page of the paper, since the asshole who personally arrested me, Vern Miller, was the Sedgwick County sheriff who was running for Attorney General the same year I ran for sheriff in Douglas County. The headline in the Wichita paper the next morning read &#8220;George Kimball Arrested,&#8221; over a picture of me being led away in cuffs. I&#8217;d been speaking at a rally protesting the presence of Spiro Agnew, who&#8217;d flown in to stump for the incumbent attorney general, Kent Frizell, who was running for governor in another tight race. (He lost.) When Miller busted me, I just shook my head and told him, quietly, &#8220;Vern, you&#8217;re going to start a riot here,&#8221; and he did. I sat there in jail that night thinking to myself, &#8220;You stupid bastard. You just got that motherfucker elected,&#8221; which turned out to be the case.</p>
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<p>Besides personally leading several drug raids in Lawrence, one of Vern&#8217;s first acts in office was to board an Amtrak train traveling through Kansas with an armed posse and take the bartender in the bar car into custody for serving liquor by the drink inside the borders of Kansas. (It was still illegal at the time for bars to serve anything but 3.2 beer.) He then wanted to put undercover agents on planes and bust the stewardess’ for serving drinks in Kansas airspace, but wiser heads prevailed. A few years later I met a guy in Boston – he phoned me up and arranged a meeting – who, actually – no shit – wrote an opera about all of this. Vern and I were the leads. I don’t think it ever got performed.</p>
<p><strong>BB: That’s hilarious. Wasn’t there a confrontation with a cop in there? Didn’t you throw a punch at an officer?</strong></p>
<p><strong>GK:</strong> The ‘65 arrest was for carrying a &#8220;Fuck the Draft&#8221; sign at an antiwar rally in Lawrence. I don&#8217;t know that I&#8217;d describe it as a punch; I swung but it was more of a forearm shiver. He&#8217;d thrown me up against a car while the woman he claimed wasn&#8217;t in need of medical attention was collapsing to the sidewalk behind him. I was charged with assaulting an officer, but when it came to trial not even the cop&#8217;s own partner would testify for him so it got tossed. I don&#8217;t know when or if they expunge those things; there might be a record of it but I wouldn&#8217;t want to go nosing around since I think there might still be a hot possession of marijuana charge floating around down there, though for instance when I&#8217;ve gotten stopped on a couple of motor violations nothing popped up when they phoned me in.</p>
<p>(The most recent of those I was driving around the block at about 15 mph during street cleaning, and got stopped for no seat belt. I thought it was really chickenshit, but then I realized the real reason for it. It was during the ‘04 playoffs, and I had a Massachusetts car with Herald on the license plate.)</p>
<p><strong>BB: When Miller arrested you, you told him that he was going to incite a riot when he arrested you. What kind of riot was there, if any?</strong></p>
<p><strong>GK:</strong> I&#8217;ve been in better riots, but considering there was no trouble until he arrested me, any riot there was plainly his doing. I was only in the Wichita jail overnight. By early light I&#8217;d been bailed out and was on my way back to Lawrence.</p>
<p><strong>BB: How long was it before the election?</strong></p>
<p><strong>GK:</strong> I think it was November. It was just before the election, anyway.</p>
<p><strong>BB: When did you leave Kansas?</strong></p>
<p><strong>GK:</strong> We left within a matter of days, not in response to Vern&#8217;s threats, but because I&#8217;d promised my wife we were going to move back East and that I&#8217;d start writing and earning a living. It had been a fun six months or so but we were awfully poor. The grand I got from Scanlan&#8217;s monthly was the only real money I&#8217;d earned, and the only thing I&#8217;d written. If I stayed in Kansas the only way to earn a decent living would have been on some level of the dope harvest, and I was way too paranoid to make a good criminal.</p>
<p><strong>BB: When you too off, did you think &#8220;Well, that was fun?&#8221; Now, time to get serious and make some money?</strong></p>
<p><strong>GK:</strong> Yes and no. I didn&#8217;t want to trivialize the experience by looking like I was cashing in on it right away, so I pretty consistently resisted entreaties to write a book about the campaign. Ed Sanders, for one, really pushed me to do that. I did write the piece for the Realist (mainly because I needed the dough, $300 I think). Paul had asked me, Hunter, and Stew Albert to do separate pieces. Stew and I did ours and Hunter never did, so he finally just ran ours.</p>
<p><strong>BB: So it wasn&#8217;t just theater?</strong></p>
<p><strong>GK:</strong> I wouldn&#8217;t say that. I didn&#8217;t want the guys who had gotten killed, and the people who had worked on the campaign, to suddenly look like they&#8217;d been bit players in a scheme to get me a book contract.1970 was in that respect the tail end of the 60s. What was mine was yours and what was yours was mine, that sort of stuff. We didn&#8217;t stay very much out at the A-Frame (for one thing it would have been dangerous; somebody would have had to stay up as an armed guard against a redneck attack). From Sept onward we shared a house with another couple in Lawrence. She was a grad student, he a dope dealer, and since nobody had any discernible income they (and I think maybe we, eventually) discovered they were eligible for food stamps.</p>
<p>I also had sort of an arrangement at the Gaslight Tavern. If I was around and it got busy (which it did at lunchtime almost any day during the week) I&#8217;d jump behind the bar and tend bar while he cooked and the other bartender worked the tables. He might or might not throw me a few bucks but in any case I didn&#8217;t have to pay for food, and rarely even for beer, there. It worked pretty well, since he didn&#8217;t have to bring in somebody to work a whole shift, which I had no interest in doing anyway. I&#8217;d worked at the bookstore next door several years earlier and knew these guys pretty well. Also next door was a barber shop. Obviously they didn&#8217;t cut any hippies&#8217; hair, but I used to go in and shoot the shit with the barbers, talk baseball and football, so they knew I was OK.</p>
<p><strong>BB: How did your father handle all of this?</strong></p>
<p><strong>GK:</strong> Like my mother, he had firsthand knowledge only of the Lawrence one, though he had clearance and could have viewed my file. Army intelligence also had one on me. I don&#8217;t recall ever asked me about the other arrests, though we weren&#8217;t talking a lot in those days. Like my mother he was sort of delusional about a lot of this stuff. When my brother Tim returned from Vietnam, got involved with Veterans against the War and participating in protests, for instance, he convinced himself and told people that he must have been doing it as a plant by Army intelligence, which was of course absurd.</p>
<p>By the way, he&#8217;d never in a million years have publicly agreed with me about the war, but his enthusiasm for it dampened considerably the second time he was over there, this time as Military Attaché at the embassy in Laos (read: spy.) My uncle Bill, my father&#8217;s older brother, thinks he must have witnessed, or had to participate in, some stuff he found so morally abhorrent over there that he began to question in his own mind whether it had all been worth it. He&#8217;d never have criticized the U.S., even after he retired, but he plainly no longer wanted to talk about it.</p>
<p><strong>BB: So after all of this craziness in Kansas, how did you wind up in the Boston at the Boston Phoenix?</strong></p>
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<p><strong>GK:</strong> I’d lived in and gone to school in Boston earlier; my grandparents lived there. Harper Barnes, who went to KU, was editor of the <em>Phoenix</em>; I’d also planned several freelance gigs but once I started at the <em>Phoenix</em> that sort of pushed everything else out of the way as the role grew. Depends on which sport you mean. The Celtics were still rebuilding but extremely accommodating. The Patriots weren’t at first but eventually came around. The Red Sox constantly battled me over access and credentials. Their PR guy, Bill Crowley, was an asshole. Covered lots of things besides sports in those days, especially politics and music.</p>
<p><strong>BB: How Mike Lupica did come to the <em>Phoenix</em>?</strong></p>
<p><strong>GK:</strong> Lupica I’d met through Bob Ryan in 1971, I believe, when he was still at BC. I hired him to do some freelance pieces for a special section we did in ‘72 and they were so good I wound up talking the publisher into hiring him to constitute a full-time sports staff. Then not long after he graduated I think it was the <em>Post</em> hired him. What I didn’t realize was that it was some kind of probationary deal. A couple of months after he went to New York I got a call from somebody in personnel at the Post saying they were considering hiring him full time and asking my opinion, and I said “You mean I can have him back?” She laughed and said that sounded like an endorsement to her.</p>
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<p><strong>BB: What about Charlie Pierce?</strong></p>
<p><strong>GK:</strong> I met Charlie out in Worcester. I was working on some story and somebody suggested I look him up; he was writing for <em>Worcester magazine</em>, I think. I was the one who introduced him to Bob Sales, who was then the editor of the <em>Phoenix</em>, and Bob hired him, though not to do sports since Michael Gee was already working as my backup, sort of in Lupica’s place. Then I left for the Herald in early 1980, and Charlie did some sports after that. Bob was by then at the <em>Herald</em>, first as managing editor and later as sports editor. He and Don Forst hired me initially, over the objections of the sports editor, who shortly quit. A few years later when he was sports editor Bob hired both Michael and Charlie at the<em> Herald</em>.</p>
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<p><strong>BB: What was it like moving from a weekly like the <em>Phoenix</em> to a daily tabloid like the <em>Herald</em>? I assume part of the reason was financial. Did you enjoy the move? What new challenges did it present? Did you write anything but sports at the <em>Herald</em>?</strong></p>
<p><strong>GK:</strong> It was only financial in that I took a while negotiating the terms because I didn’t want to sell myself cheap, but mainly it had come time to move on. I’d actually left the <em>Phoenix</em> in November of ‘79, the week Kennedy announced his candidacy, and spent several months freelancing and working with the campaign. I did a few pieces for the <em>Herald</em> in that time, but didn’t actually sign a contract until February.</p>
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<p><strong>BB: Were you ever frustrated as a columnist for the <em>Herald</em>? In that you weren&#8217;t their number-one columnist?</strong></p>
<p><strong>GK:</strong> For about eight years I was the number-one columnist. Once Charlie Pierce arrived he started getting some of the better assignments but I was still the guy who’d go to Super Bowls, playoffs, world series, etc., so that wasn&#8217;t frustrating. Even after guys like Callahan and Buckley arrived and pretty much knocked me off most baseball coverage I probably could have lived with it, but for the last ten years after Bob Sales was let go the new sports editor wanted to assign all columns – you had no leeway in choosing what to write about, and in some cases he wanted to dictate point of view even. It got pretty tiresome and frustrating. I had also gotten old enough that since the Post in ‘92 there weren&#8217;t any job offers coming in, so I was kind of trapped there. If someone had come along with a buyout offer remotely as good as what I got in ‘05 I&#8217;d have jumped at it, but with a wife and two kids in school I wasn&#8217;t in a position to make a move.</p>
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<p><strong>BB: Did you have a good relationship with your editor Bob Sales when you were at the <em>Herald</em>?</strong></p>
<p><strong>GK:</strong> Yes. Like most any writer-editor relationship that lasts nearly 20 years we had our moments of strain, but I enjoyed working with him more than any other sports editor there &#8212; particularly his successor.</p>
<p><strong>BB: How long did you work for him at the <em>Herald</em>?</strong></p>
<p><strong>GK:</strong> Twice at the <em>Herald</em>. He was the managing editor when I got there in ‘80, then in early ‘82 I think left right after Murdoch takeover. Then came back as sports editor from ‘86-‘95 or so. He and Forst hired me initially.</p>
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<p><strong>BB: I just watched a screener copy of a new HBO doc on Borg-McEnroe. They show footage of Charlie Steiner getting into a fight with a Brit in the press room at the &#8217;81 Wimbledon and who should I see in the background?</strong></p>
<p><strong>GK:</strong> Yeah, that footage is everywhere &#8212; also on a video Not Great Moments in sports. I was the peacemaker. I might have been the only one in the room who knew both guys and figured if I didn&#8217;t break them up nobody would, even though neither one wanted to fight very badly. After the third Leonard Duran fight Charlie sat down with me and Stephen Stills at the Mirage and we got to talking about it and Stills was cracking up. I said if you ever want to feel ridiculous try standing in the middle of the Wimbledon press room pleading &#8220;Stop it, Nigel!&#8221; I believe I kept them apart without ever putting my briefcase down.</p>
<p><strong>BB: I talked to Bill Lee. Said you&#8217;d be proud of him, he&#8217;s finally become a logger. Said he&#8217;s wanted to be one his whole life. That, and a wino. Do you still keep in touch with him?</strong></p>
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<p><strong>GK:</strong> Last time I saw Bill was in Burlington more than a year ago. My daughter was meeting me there and we were driving up to Montreal for a fight, and Bill drove over and met us at my friends&#8217; house. I&#8217;d taken a spill on the train to Newark Airport and broke a couple of ribs, it turned out. He had a deal with the owners at Jay Peak (where Darcy and Sam teach in he ski school) to make bats out of all the hickory they were clearing in their new expansion. He&#8217;d just started, and gave me one of the earlier prototypes, basically a mistake. They&#8217;d milled it to the precise dimensions of another bat he was using, and hickory being much denser, it was so heavy King Kong would have had trouble getting around on a fastball with it. We took it up to Montreal, but of course I can&#8217;t get on a plane with a bat, so Darcy kept it in the car. Later in the summer Teddy went up and spent a week doing trail work for them, and Darcy gave him the Spaceman bat to bring back. He stopped in Boston to see some of his friends, got stoned and fell asleep under a tree in the Boston Common, and walked off and left it. He went back half an hour later but of course by then it was gone.</p>
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<p><strong>BB: I was listening to &#8220;Boom Boom Mancini&#8221; by Warren Zevon. You must have run into him during the course of your travels, right?</strong></p>
<p><strong>GK:</strong> During the ‘70s Bill Lee, Dennis Eckersley, and I along with our wives went to see him at the Berklee Performance Center, and Zevon later wrote his song about Bill. I didn&#8217;t know him well, though obviously Carl Hiassen did. When we had to clear the permissions for <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Fighter-Still-Remains-George-Kimball/dp/0979994756" target="_blank">&#8220;The Fighter Still Remains&#8221;</a> I wound up corresponding with his widow, Crystal (who lived in Vermont but since moved to Western Mass) and his kids and son (who lives in LA). I also have “Werewolves of London” as a ringtone on my phone but can&#8217;t remember for who now.</p>
<p><strong>BB: Did you ever miss New York at all in those <em>Herald</em> years?</strong></p>
<p><strong>GK:</strong> A bit, but I traveled there a lot on assignments. In ‘92 I came down and worked for the <em>Post</em> for six months, right after Murdoch bought it for the second time, on kind of a lend-lease basis. They wanted me to stay and I would have but for a couple of things. One is that my family was very much against it, the other was that the labor strife was looming, and the editor, Ken Chandler, who was a friend, warned me that if I took the deal they were offering I&#8217;d be obligated to cross a picket line. That was a pretty good deal while it lasted. They put me up in hotels, the <em>Herald</em> paid my salary and the <em>Post</em> my expenses, and at the first of every month they handed me a fist full of round-trip shuttle tickets I could use to fly to and from Boston at my discretion, so I could arrange my schedule to be in New York for, say, five days, and then in Boston for five.</p>
<p><strong>BB: Who are some of your favorite athletes that you covered?</strong></p>
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<p><strong>GK:</strong> There were lots of them: Bill Lee, Jim Willoughby, and Dennis Eckersley remain friends. Ray Leonard, Marvin Hagler, and of course Ali was a joy to cover. Dave Cowens and Kevin McHale were lots of fun to cover, as were guys in the earlier era of the Celtics – John Havlicek, Don Nelson, Don Chaney, and Jo Jo White, whom I had known at KU. I’ve also stayed close to some KU guys. Bud Stallworth I knew (and occasionally played pickup games with) when he was a freshman at KU, and then often got together with him when he was through town in his NBA days. I still see him pretty often and will in Lawrence this week. He and I went to the KU-Va Tech Orange Bowl together a few years ago, and then to the Final Four in San Antonio that April, as did Al Lopes, who was the “other” guard with Jo Jo at KU. Jo Jo got drafted by the Celtics and Al by Uncle Sam. After Vietnam Al went back to law school on the GI Bill and now practices in Lawrence.</p>
<p><strong>BB: Do you ever feel that you didn&#8217;t write as much in early years because you were drinking and getting loaded?</strong></p>
<p><strong>GK:</strong> I don&#8217;t think the drinking and drugging slowed me down when it came to writing. In some cases it probably made the writing better, though I practically never drank till I was done writing and really didn&#8217;t do much drugs beyond getting a bit of an edge. But both before and after I was drinking, writing a daily column was extremely taxing mentally, in addition to having to travel to and from events, even home games. It took so much out of me that I&#8217;d never have been able to summon the discipline or the energy to write books while I was still doing that. For most of that time I was also playing a lot of golf, which was much more relaxing and didn&#8217;t tax you in the same way work did.</p>
<p><strong>BB: When did you quit drinking?</strong></p>
<p><strong>GK:</strong> November 1991. As Malachy McCourt likes to say, I’d had enough.</p>
<p><strong>BB: You have such a wide variety of friends and your life seems to be connected by those friendships. For writing, which is such a solitary profession, you seem to have a real need for human relationships.</strong></p>
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<p><strong>GK:</strong> It’s a real cross-section of people, and it’s kind of fun getting people from those various worlds together who otherwise might never meet. But if there’s anything unique about it, it’s that there’s almost as wide a variation in age as well: Arlen Snyder is 78, and Tom Paxton is over 70 now. Niall Toibin, an actor friend in Dublin, is in his 80s. Some of my New York friends, mostly Lions Head survivors, go back more than 40 years. Pete Hamill and I don’t see each other that often – it probably averages out to once a week – but we email or talk on the phone several times a week. There are guys in Kansas like Jim McCrary I’ve known even longer, and I’ve got younger friends, too – Benn Schulberg and I go to and watch a lot of fights and ball games together; he’s barely into his 30s but then when his father and I used to do the same things, Budd was in his 90s. Lou DiBella is 50 now, but that’s a lot younger than I am, and Anne Tangeman is 45. Mark Horgan, who went out to Kansas with me last week, is only 29, and my godson Kidd Dorn is in his 30s. I’m talking here about people you might walk into my home and see hanging out. Rosalie Sorrels (who introduced me and Marge and is now 78 herself) said when people used to ask her mother why she didn’t hang out with people her own age, she’d reply “People my own age are dead.” I find that’s increasingly true, too. In the last couple of years a bunch of people from the Lions Head started dying in profusion (Jose Torres, Frank McCourt, David Markson, Paul Schiffman).</p>
<p><strong>BB: Were you disappointed or angry when you heard that Hunter S. Thompson had killed himself?</strong></p>
<p><strong>GK:</strong> Both, but if I had to choose one I&#8217;d say angry.</p>
<p><strong>BB: Did you feel freed up to write more once you retired from the <em>Herald</em>? I read in an interview that you said you feel guilty when you don&#8217;t write.</strong></p>
<p><strong>GK:</strong> Yes, I obviously had much more time to write. I was already working on Eamonn Coghlan&#8217;s book pretty much at time of retirement, and while that experience ended somewhat unhappily I think the discipline and work habits helped in all the other projects. Even though I was writing once a week for the I<em>rish Times</em> and covering things for websites I had a solid block of several hours I&#8217;d devote to those each day, and yes, it got so I felt guilty if I didn&#8217;t write.</p>
<p><strong>BB: Even though it is difficult now, does writing give you a sense of purpose and identity?</strong></p>
<p><strong>GK:</strong> Writers write, although what I find myself doing these days is almost more secretarial work – doing all these interviews, arranging book tour stuff on the limited energy I have doesn’t leave me a lot of time for actual writing. I know I’m not going to have time to write another book (though there will be at least one more new cover, the reissue of <em>Only Skin Deep</em>), but I’m hoping to cover a few more fights, and I’d like to get this play (<em>Bloodsong</em>) finished even though there’s not a chance I’d live long enough to ever see it produced.</p>
<p><strong>BB: Do you have any sense of how you’d like to be remembered?</strong></p>
<p><strong>GK:</strong> Why do you think there have been half a dozen books in the past four years?</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><em>And if I say to you tomorrow</em><br />
<em> Take my hand child, come with me.</em><br />
<em> To a castle I will take you</em><br />
<em> But what’s to be they say will be.</em><br />
<em> <strong>— Led Zeppelin, &#8220;<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bu3FuEiopJ0">What Is and What Should Never Be</a>&#8220;</strong></em></p></blockquote>
<p>As the Penn State scandal continues to evolve, it is important to note that the grand jury investigation and report is <a href="http://t.co/FONonB8N">available for reference</a>. Will reading the grand jury report, or instructing people to do so, help make the Blogosphere and the Twitterverse more peaceful? Highly unlikely. I haven’t seen people this divided and angry over a sport-related story since the OJ Simpson trial.</p>
<p>How do we put into context what allegedly happened at Penn State, according to the report? Some steps are to 1) to view the progress of the story to date; 2) how the media has covered the story; and 3) examine from an academic context how the iconic status of Paterno and the culture he created in Happy Valley shaped the way the university managed – or depending on your perspective, mismanaged – the situation.</p>
<p><strong>THE MYTH OF OBJECTIVITY</strong></p>
<p><strong></strong>Objectivity requires one to step outside the bubble of the first-person point of view, assess information, determine what is fact and fiction, relevant and irrelevant, and interpret that information accordingly to construct a narrative. In this context, facts are absolute. They are cut and dry and emotionless, much like the components of a mathematical equation. Facts help derive truth, which is a more abstract concept. This story tests every fiber of what journalism students are taught. It shatters the mythology that those who cover sport – not just college football, Penn State, or Joe Paterno – have contributed in drafting.</p>
<p>There is an agenda supporting the way every article published in every periodical is framed, either on the writer’s part or by the organization employing said writers. On television, the number of programs parading talking heads deemed “experts” presenting their contrasting opinions in the interest of equal time passes for intelligent programming. This is not objective, nor is it journalism.</p>
<p>Siphoning fact from fiction and placing that information into a legal context was the task assigned to the federal grand jury that investigated the actions of former Penn State defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky. The contents of the report are graphic, provocative, and a slew of other adjectives that cut to the core of our emotions. For those of us who are parents and entrust – or have entrusted &#8211; our children to a third party for care, it is impossible to view this story through a prism of objectivity. It conjures primitive, visceral reactions steeped in anger. But the grand jury report is only one piece to the investigative puzzle. The Patriot-News in Harrisburg has provided in-depth reporting. A timeline and the depth of knowledge of the situation among the key players is noted <a href="http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/who_knew_what_about_jerry_sand.html">here</a>.</p>
<p>It is under these volatile circumstances that national media organizations have flooded central Pennsylvania, piggybacking the solid journalistic efforts of the Patriot-News and turning the area known as Happy Valley into the stuff of tabloid. Joe Posnanski, who is writing a book on Joe Paterno, wrestled with his emotions and the difficulty in being objective in a strong, well-written <a href="http://joeposnanski.si.com/2011/11/10/the-end-of-paterno/">blog post</a>. But to those of us on the outside analyzing Posnanski’s position, given that he moved to State College, gained unfettered access to Paterno, how can he reconcile doing this book now, or at least amending the angle? This series of events, for better or worse, is now the defining piece to Paterno’s career, possibly his life, and to encourage the people who supported him for years to stand up now is naïve. Perhaps we’ve learned, through the number of sponsors that are removing themselves from Saturday’s broadcast and the power struggles between Paterno and his superiors that have come to the fore, that JoePa didn’t have the level of support that he thought; that there were people who finally stopped buying what Paterno sold.</p>
<p>Buzz Bissinger, who wrote <a href="http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/11/10/joe-paterno-and-penn-state-s-code-of-omerta-in-the-sex-abuse-scandal.html">his own reaction piece</a>, tweeted: “Note to Posnanski: junk your book unless you re-report it get the Joedust out of your eyes. Your post was pathetic justification of JoePa.”</p>
<p>CBS’s Gregg Doyel went one further in this tweet: “Heard Joe Posnanski is on campus defending Joe Pa. Calling him a scapegoat. Smart guy. Decent writer. Total moron.”</p>
<p>People unconditionally – or in Posnanski’s case, conditionally – supporting Paterno, are not viewing his involvement and inaction with a sense of totality. Involving emotions in the evaluation process immediately kills objectivity. Posnanski, a veteran, respected award-winning journalist and writer, know this. He admitted as much. But he also has to realize that by continuing down this path, his own reputation is at stake.</p>
<p>* * *</p>
<p>Penn State alum Chris Korman <a href="http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/thetoydepartment/2011/11/on_paterno.html">wrote an impassioned blog </a>Wednesday in the Baltimore Sun. In it, Korman describes his time as a student journalist at Penn State and examines the way the local and national media have covered the events while trying to reconcile his own feelings. Korman writes that while Sandusky is unquestionably the main player, the tipping point of the investigation and coverage occurred when the focus shifted to Paterno’s inolvement.</p>
<blockquote><p>“… the Sandusky story did not gain traction when it should have. The Patriot-News, in Harrisburg, first reported that he was the subject of a grand jury investigation for the indecent assault of a teenage boy on March 31. … Yet it does not appear that any of the major news outlets now swarming campus paid much attention. Sure, Paterno had not yet been tied to the scandal. But it should have at least sent a few reporters scurrying; Sandusky, after all, remained affiliated with Penn State.”</p></blockquote>
<p>In other words, Sandusky might be the principal player and newsmaker, but Paterno’s name value makes the story. Sandusky’s alleged actions lead to one visceral reaction; Paterno’s role in the chain of events spawns another.</p>
<p>YES Network’s Kimberly Jones, also a Penn State alum, has been a fixture on Mike’d Up with Mike Francesa this week. <a href="http://web.yesnetwork.com/media/video.jsp?content_id=19987861">Tuesday</a>, she discussed her time covering Penn State Football, the lack of access afforded to reporters, the insular, protective culture Paterno created and fostered in University Park, and perhaps most damningly, that Sandusky was seldom seen without kids from his Second Mile organization around him. Thursday, she commented on the <a href="http://web.yesnetwork.com/media/video.jsp?content_id=19987861">lack of leadership</a> the University has shown.</p>
<p>Thursday morning’s talk radio rotation featured a mixture of intelligent conversation and rancor. On WFAN, Craig Carton verbally flogged a female Penn State student who called in to give the vibe in State College, but also someone who pledged her support for Paterno, as did her parents. She mentioned she was a journalism student and wondered why reporters weren’t trailing Sandusky as he went on a shopping spree at Dick’s Sporting Goods. She said she believed Paterno didn’t do enough, but he shouldn’t be made the scapegoat, like she and many others believed the media were responsible for. It helps provide a context for the actions of Mike McQueary and his father, John (more on this later in the column).</p>
<p>On ESPN Radio, Mike Greenberg and Mike Golic interviewed a number of former Penn State players, asking them common softball questions, while outside the context of the interviews highlighting the young boys listed as victims in this scandal and questioning the status of Mike McQueary for Saturday’s game against Nebraska.</p>
<p>At present, the status of the coverage is now past Paterno, save for the question of whether or not the media were responsible for scapegoating the 84-year-old coach. JoePos <a href="http://deadspin.com/5858278/">told a class at Penn State</a> he believed that to be the case. Dictionary.com defines a <a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/scapegoat">scapegoat</a> as “a person or group made to bear the blame for others or to suffer in their place.” Paterno is not being made to bear blame for anyone other than himself. He is not being made to suffer for Jerry Sandusky. He is enduring the consequences of his own action and inaction.</p>
<p>Reading the Korman article, maybe it&#8217;s time that happened. Korman points to the culture of ignorance that existed during his time on campus, and beyond. He specifically points to an ESPN report that compiled the following figures on criminal activity involving Penn State football players from 2002-2008: 46 players were charged with 163 counts.</p>
<p>Stephen Mosher, Professor of Sport Studies at Ithaca College, examined Paterno through the veil of the coach&#8217;s 1989 appearance on a PBS roundtable program. <a href="http://www.icsmmblog.com/?p=4371">Mosher writes</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>“What is terrifying is that Paterno claims that, in sports, ‘you give the responsibility to the authority of others.’ And that type of reasoning is what allowed Paterno and the others in the PSU ‘chain of command’ to convince himself that he had done enough when confronted with the unspeakable horror over thirteen years ago.</p>
<p>No rational human being would entrust the welfare of the vulnerable to a six-year old. And that is exactly what occurs in the sport culture every single day…”</p></blockquote>
<p>People who have played team sports, covered team sports, interviewed coaches or former coaches for a living will say that accountability starts at the top. In this case, it’s the head coach. How does that make Paterno a scapegoat? Because he was the biggest name? Now people are posting signs asking for the media to go home; that with Paterno out, the story is over and there’s nothing more to report.</p>
<p>But there is much more, and it is going to get much worse before it gets better. While Paterno was the most prominent domino to fall, there will be others. The next is likely McQueary. (UPDATE: A few hours after this column was posted, McQueary was placed on indefinite administrative leave, effective immediately.) A spotlight remains on the University Administration and the Board of Trustees, whose continued attempts at damage control – which are the topic of countless forums among PR professionals – have resulted in an epic fail.</p>
<p><strong>DON’T MIX MY SPORTS WITH ANYTHING ELSE</strong></p>
<p>Sport plays a role in culture and society, just as cultural and societal factors help forge behavior in sport. Actions in sport, both on the field and off, affect politics and business dealings. Sports are entertainment, a supposed escape. On a more humanistic note, we want to see purity in the athletic endeavor, and nothing more. In the past two weeks, we’ve had “Tebowing” and Penn State. In-your-face religion and the alleged pedophilic acts by a coach taking place on campus and what may prove to be a decade-long cover-up. The Penn State Affair is a sports story. Although the primary subject matter is not sport-related, the context of it and the key figures in the story are tied to football.</p>
<p>Penn State University &#8211; the football program in particular &#8211; is a cash cow. To that end, it is the most important school in the Big Ten Conference. PSU, according to an <a href="http://www.businesspundit.com/the-12-most-valuable-teams-in-ncaa-football/)">online report</a>, has the most valuable football team in the Big Ten, and the third-most valuable in the NCAA, based on gross revenue and pure profit. Going beyond football, Penn State hosts a high number of conference championship events and because of its production facilities and student involvement, is the largest provider of content to the Big Ten Network.</p>
<p>Furthermore, deposed president Graham Spanier was Chairman of the Bowl Championship Series. Jay Bilas noted in an interview with Greenberg and Golic Wednesday morning that at a recent NCAA university presidents’ retreat, Spanier was touting “integrity, integrity” for the BCS Bilas then asked rhetorically, “How can he continue in his capacity?” Later in the evening, the Board of Trustees fired Spanier. In Thursday&#8217;s aftermath, NCAA President Mark Emmert issued a statement and used the word “integrity” to describe both Spanier and Paterno.</p>
<p>The football program, as it does for many colleges across the country – not just major Division I colleges and universities – creates the campus identity. A <a href="http://www.offtackleempire.com/2011/11/8/2547485/an-open-letter-from-a-buckeye-fan-to-penn-state-fans">note from the blogosphere</a> illustrates this fact:</p>
<blockquote><p>“As I was driving to work this morning, I heard one of your own call in to The Herd and explain that he didn&#8217;t know how he was going to unapologetically put on the Blue and White and sing &#8220;Fight On, State&#8221; this Saturday.  He&#8217;s not the only one to express that sentiment.  Perhaps you&#8217;re feeling a little this way.</p>
<p>This is what I want to say to you.  You are not Joe Paterno.  You are not Tim Curley.  You are not Gary Schultz.  You are not Graham Spanier, and you are sure as hell not Jerry Sandusky.  Their alleged sins are not your own.  They may be the most recognizable faces of your beloved program, but they are not Penn State.  They are not a 156 year old center of higher learning.  They are not a century of football tradition.  Their flaws cannot eclipse the innumerable scientific, artistic, and humanitarian contributions your university, and its 44,000 students and 570,000 living alumni have made and will continue to make to the world at large.”</p></blockquote>
<p>An Ohio State fan wrote the open letter in an effort to show empathy resulting from the recent scandals that rocked the Buckeyes football program and led to Jim Tressel’s disgraceful dismissal. Where the letter is incorrect, sociologically speaking, is that Paterno, Sandusky, Curley and Schultz, as well as the kids taking the field on Saturday, ARE Penn State because they are the most public representatives of the institution. The program is bigger than the university. The football players and coaches are the perpetual BMOC’s. Paterno held more influence than the school President. This is true at Penn State and any other school where football reigns supreme.</p>
<p><strong>SPORT DOESN’T BUILD CHARACTER</strong></p>
<p>Coaches of youth sports tell kids on their teams that the work ethic, ideals, etc., learned on the field help build character outside the lines. They are tantamount to life lessons. The truth is that nature and nurture build character, not participation in sport. Good parenting and development of a moral compass build character. Does the coach who sticks the worst kid on the team in right field so he won’t have a meaningful effect on the game have character? How did sport help this coach in that respect? What led him to believe that winning a Little League game at the cost of potentially killing the confidence of that right fielder was positive? Does the kid who took the most reps in practice or spent the most time in the batting cage exhibit positive character traits when, following a disheartening loss, he says, “It’s always the bottom of the lineup that screws us”? No. It works in the reverse: you bring the personality traits you inherit and then hone as you gain life experience into the field of play.</p>
<p>In a guest spot with Greenberg and Golic, former Penn State linebacker Paul Posluszny, now with the Jacksonville Jaguars, talked of Paterno as a father figure and a “maker of men.” This is a common refrain among football players and how they discuss their coaches, or how any mentee views a mentor. What, then, do we conclude about the character of Mike McQueary, who played football for Paterno and has been on the coaching staff for nearly 10 years? On March 1, 2002, according to the grand jury report, McQueary witnessed Sandusky raping a 10-year-old boy in the showers of the Lasch Football Building and rather than break it up and save the child, he turned away, called his father, who advised him to report the incident to Paterno.</p>
<p>Sandusky worked for Joe Paterno for nearly 30 years. Did football build him into a pedophile? Tim Curley played for Paterno and rose up the ranks to become athletic director. Did sport help build his character such that the grand jury found his testimony “not credible”?</p>
<p><strong>THE MYTH OF JOEPA, BUSTED</strong></p>
<p>The fallout of the past several days has been thus: Paterno and Spanier are gone. Athletic Director Tim Curley and Gary Schultz, senior vice president of business and finance of the university, resigned on Sunday.</p>
<p>This is the trickle-down effect of what was Paterno&#8217;s &#8220;Grand Experiment.&#8221; The Korman article addressed this, specifically noting Paterno’s vision of character and the culture he sought to establish. This &#8220;Grand Experiment&#8221; helped construct the myth. We know now that the events cited in the grand jury report and continuing investigations have blown it up.</p>
<p>This incident now defines Paterno’s career. It’s as if the previous 30+ years leading up to the first years the Sandusky transgressions allegedly took place are moot. The public power struggle that took place Wednesday between Paterno and the Board of Trustees had a “JoePa’s Last Stand” feel to it. The BOT didn’t afford him the luxury of determining when he would exit.</p>
<p>Looking at the recent falls of prominent college football coaches like Bobby Bowden and Jim Tressel, negligence was their undoing. The same is true for Paterno, who despite saying he “wished he could have done more” did not act on the moral high ground that he espoused and supposedly taught his players. He only proved that he wasn’t worthy of being held to a higher standard; that he was a hypocrite.</p>
<p>Dave Zirin, in his <a href="http://bit.ly/vpQEaB">initial reaction piece</a> published Monday, wrote: “It’s tragic that it’s come to this for a legend like Joe Paterno. But it’s even more tragic that protecting his legend mattered more than stopping a child rapist in their midst.”</p>
<p>A community is in denial and exhibiting the five stages of grief in textbook fashion. Amid this scene in State College, Pennsylvania, there is a game against Nebraska to prepare for.</p>
<p>But the games can’t mask the institutional failures anymore.</p>
<p>[Photo Credit: <em>Washington Post</em>]</p>
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		<title>Let&#8217;s Do It Again</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 20:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Alex Belth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[John and Suzyn Waldman will be back calling Yankee games on the radio next year....]]></description>
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<p>John and Suzyn Waldman will be back calling Yankee games on the radio next year.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 14:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Alex Belth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Curt Schilling lowers the boom on the Bosox.]]></description>
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<p><a href="http://fullcount.weei.com/sports/boston/baseball/red-sox/2011/10/13/transcript-of-curt-schilling-on-dc-this-is-what-happens-when-you-piss-people-off-that-are-really-rich-and-powerful/" target="_blank">Curt Schilling lowers the boom on the Bosox</a>.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 14:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Alex Belth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is there a better baseball writer in the country than Tyler Kepner? And I&#8217;m not...]]></description>
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<p>Is there a better baseball writer in the country than Tyler Kepner? And I&#8217;m not just talking about newspapers. If so, please let me know because I&#8217;m missing something special. Kepner covered the Mets beat and then the Yankees beat for the <em>New York Times</em> before becoming the paper&#8217;s <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/09/sports/baseball/like-yankees-phillies-feel-sting-of-the-rich-and-vanquished.html?ref=baseball" target="_blank">general baseball writer/columnist</a>. His work features measured, even-handed analysis, good reporting, and, oh yeah, the guy can actually write. He&#8217;s just getting better and better. I got to thinking about him when I opened the sports section of the <em>Times</em> this morning. There are few sports writers than have all of Kepner&#8217;s skills these days and I, for one, am grateful to have him on the scene.</p>
<p>Also in the <em>Times</em> today is a long feature by <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/09/sports/baseball/hideki-irabu-got-lost-on-the-road-back.html?_r=1&amp;ref=baseball" target="_blank">Ken Belson on Hideki Irabu</a>.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2011 16:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Alex Belth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bill Pennington profiled John Sterling in the Times the other day: Sterling came to the...]]></description>
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<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/02/sports/baseball/voice-of-yankees-draws-high-ratings-and-several-critics.html?pagewanted=3&amp;_r=1&amp;sq=john%20sterling&amp;st=cse&amp;scp=1" target="_blank">Bill Pennington profiled John Sterling in the Times</a> the other day:</p>
<blockquote><p>Sterling came to the Yankees’ radio booth in 1989 and did every game, although his 100 percent work attendance streak began in 1981 in Atlanta.</p>
<p>“I have not missed a game I was supposed to work,” he said. “I am blessed with a good immune system.”</p>
<p>Michael Kay, the Yankees television announcer and Sterling’s radio partner from 1992 to 2001, said: “I do 125 games a season, and that feels like a lot. I don’t know how he has done 162 games a year for 23 years.”</p>
<p>In his time with the Yankees, Sterling has had five broadcasting partners. He has worked with Suzyn Waldman since 2005.</p>
<p>A typical day for Sterling starts late because he stays up late. Besides having an affection for TV soap operas, he is a voracious reader of mystery novels and celebrity biographies. He tries to swim every day for at least a half-hour. On the road, it is a familiar sight at the Ritz-Carltons and other fashionable hotels where the Yankees stay to see a soggy Sterling striding through the ornate lobby in a terry-cloth robe, goggles perched on his head on his way back from the hotel pool.</p></blockquote>
<p>The piece is well-worth your time.</p>
<p>[Photo Credit: Beatrice de Gea for <em>the New York Times</em>] </p>
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